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Apr 8, 2021 8:31 AM
#1
| In the last Chapter we see Eren and Armin talking about Ymir’s reasons. Is it a translation error that Ymir loves “Karl Fritz(the 145th king)” and not “King Fritz” or is King Fritz now called Karl Fritz too? If that’s true and Eren’s explanation is basically “idk” then that adds to bad writing as well. Why would Ymir love Karl when nothing happened between them? If it’s actually King Fritz then Ymir is crazy asf loving that old man who used her which there was no indication whatsoever of her loving him previously. She even gave up on life if I’m not mistaken which resulted to her getting eaten by her children. |
Apr 8, 2021 8:48 AM
#2
| Well she basically loves the king fritz not the king of the walls (karl Fritz) So yeah an error |
Apr 8, 2021 8:49 AM
#3
| stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now |
Apr 8, 2021 9:00 AM
#4
deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now That reason doesn’t make it better though at least for me. Yeah I’m waiting for the official one and hopefully it’s actually an error cause it will make less sense if it isn’t. |
Apr 8, 2021 9:57 AM
#5
| bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. |
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Apr 8, 2021 9:59 AM
#6
FreeFloch said: Have you ever heard of stockholm syndrome ? bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. |
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Apr 8, 2021 10:04 AM
#7
kaiki_fan_boy said: Oh, now we are applying logic to the ending. Y'all just call this stockholm syndrome and eat it like that lmao.FreeFloch said: Have you ever heard of stockholm syndrome ? bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. |
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Apr 8, 2021 10:07 AM
#8
FreeFloch said: Well yes lol ...kaiki_fan_boy said: Oh, now we are applying logic to the ending. Y'all just call this stockholm syndrome and eat it like that lmao.FreeFloch said: bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. I do agree that the ending could have been way better but on that point I think that you're wrong. Love your flosh pictures tho, he is the true chad of aot |
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Apr 8, 2021 12:47 PM
#9
| Well it's just something as disappointing as this that ymir despite being treated badly , loved king fritz ( idk y I thought her story was supposed to be that she's no slave no God but a normal person ..repeating exact words as eren so how and y'd it turn to a love theme story ...I just don't get it ) well in the end ymir was a slave who couldn't break free from the agony of ' love' and waited for someone to teach her how to leave her love behind and that was mikasa as she killed eren Now ymir who out of love sticked to karl fritz's wishes for 2000 years broke the curse just like mikasa when she chose the right thing over her love....and yeah now it just turned to a 'attack on love" Pretty disappointing right... Well that's just that ....In the end he paralleled her with mikasa Exact opposite of what we thought and it's disappointing |
Apr 8, 2021 7:06 PM
#10
| I don't think there was a translation error |
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Jul 13, 2021 4:22 PM
#11
| Hear me out , Fritz was a man most strongly characterized by his limitless hunger for power and control. His ultimate goal had been world domination, and he was willing to accomplish that goal post-death. He viewed both his family and his people as an extension of himself, declaring that so long as Eldia ruled the world, the world was "his . when Ymir gained the power of the Titans, he used her to slaughter the Marleyans and gain power for himself. He viewed himself very highly and saw Ymir bearing his children as a "reward" for everything she had done to increase Eldia's empire. After Ymir took a spear for him, instead of thanking her when she was near death, he responded by ordering her to get back up and continue working as his slave, stating that was her only purpose in life. Instead of giving her a burial upon her death, he had his daughters eat her corpse to have them gain her power. All this , BEGAN CAUSE OF THIS MAD KING . As further examples of his seemingly-limitless cruelty, during his time as a chieftain, he had his tribe slaughter and raid villages, taking the survivors for slaves. He had no qualms about disfiguring, muting, and partially blinding his slaves, willing to gouge out an eye from every slave if someone did not confess to a simple crime of freeing a pig. When Ymir was accused of this crime, he punished her by having her hunted for sport . On top of that , he abused Ymir . She was a slave of the Eldian king, who abused her power to bring prosperity to Eldia while devastating Marley and the rest of the world. Thirteen years after awakening her power, she died protecting the king; her corpse was then forcibly cannibalized by their daughters, Maria, Rose, and Sheena . HE SHOULD BE THE MOST HATED CHARACTER , INSTEAD. BUT , NOBODY SEEMS TO CARE . |
Jul 13, 2021 4:26 PM
#12
| WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. Even WATTPAD FANFICTION are better than this love story |
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Jul 13, 2021 4:26 PM
#13
deg said: WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this . Even , WATTPAD FANFICTION is better |
Jul 13, 2021 4:28 PM
#14
FreeFloch said: bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. . Even WATTPAD FANFICTION are better than this .. It has no sense . |
Jul 13, 2021 4:30 PM
#15
Kawai__Imouto said: Well it's just something as disappointing as this that ymir despite being treated badly , loved king fritz ( idk y I thought her story was supposed to be that she's no slave no God but a normal person ..repeating exact words as eren so how and y'd it turn to a love theme story ...I just don't get it ) well in the end ymir was a slave who couldn't break free from the agony of ' love' and waited for someone to teach her how to leave her love behind and that was mikasa as she killed eren Now ymir who out of love sticked to karl fritz's wishes for 2000 years broke the curse just like mikasa when she chose the right thing over her love....and yeah now it just turned to a 'attack on love" Pretty disappointing right... Well that's just that ....In the end he paralleled her with mikasa Exact opposite of what we thought and it's disappointing WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. Even WATTPAD FANFICTION are better than this love story .. |
Jul 13, 2021 4:32 PM
#16
Roger1 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now That reason doesn’t make it better though at least for me. Yeah I’m waiting for the official one and hopefully it’s actually an error cause it will make less sense if it isn’t. WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. Even WATTPAD FANFICTION are better than this love story .. |
Jul 13, 2021 4:34 PM
#17
kaiki_fan_boy said: FreeFloch said: Have you ever heard of stockholm syndrome ? bro don't overthink it. Yams thinks falling in love with your rapist is romance and thinks it totally worths genociding 80 percent of the world. Its is Stockholm syndrome . Also , Its a Creepy obbession of ymri flitz . WORST LOVE STORY OF ANIME / MANGA HISTORY . EVEN , Twilight , Romeo and Juliet' , 50 shades of grey ...were good , compared to this. Hell , even hentai , eechi, harem anime have better love story than this. Even WATTPAD FANFICTION are better than this love story .. |
Jul 13, 2021 4:58 PM
#18
deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing |
Jul 14, 2021 2:18 AM
#19
MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Do u have a link to the translated guidebook? |
Jul 14, 2021 2:35 AM
#20
MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. |
Jul 14, 2021 9:32 AM
#21
Roger1 said: In the last Chapter we see Eren and Armin talking about Ymir’s reasons. Is it a translation error that Ymir loves “Karl Fritz(the 145th king)” and not “King Fritz” or is King Fritz now called Karl Fritz too? If that’s true and Eren’s explanation is basically “idk” then that adds to bad writing as well. Why would Ymir love Karl when nothing happened between them? If it’s actually King Fritz then Ymir is crazy asf loving that old man who used her which there was no indication whatsoever of her loving him previously. She even gave up on life if I’m not mistaken which resulted to her getting eaten by her children. Ymir didn't love King Fritz, as for Karl Fritz it was corrected to king Fritz in volume 34, the recent guidebook confirms the romance relationship and this is one of the worst things about the finales, it portrays abuse as romance relationship and glorifies rape and abuse, as for why, no reason 139 was a last minute-change with no build up or preparation, Ymir didn't love Fritz it's just a nonsensible plot to glorify Mikasa's role in the story as the true main character while she's actually a trash character who have no development but Ereh in the story a trash character who ignored everyone loved her whether it's Louise or Jean and cared blindly about one person who ignored her all her life even later insulted her calling her a slave and despite that she still continued to love him really disgusting and pathetic. |
Jul 14, 2021 10:16 AM
#22
Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Do u have a link to the translated guidebook? I don't just search it up on reddit it's there though |
Jul 14, 2021 10:18 AM
#23
Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. |
Jul 15, 2021 3:35 AM
#24
MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. But the love MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. Again, the love Ymir had for the king wasn't supposed to be romantic. It's the most negative form of love out there born out of fear and an instinct to survive. As for the whole "why did she let herself die?" Debacle, eventhough she was in "love" with the king, there was a small part of her that wanted to be free. She wasn't a complete slave because of how she eventually listened to Eren and the moment she freed the pigs. So she does yearn for some form of freedom from this "love" she had for the king. When she got hit by the spear and was dying, she thought she could finally escape this painful feeling of love by letting herself die. Only that didn't work. His daughters are her corpse and she found herself in Paths. She realised she might never actually free from the King and continued to do his bidding and create more Titans. Also, I don't think the theme of love was shoehorned in. There were bits and pieces sprinkled throughout the narrative. The main example being the convo between Grisha and The Owl at the end of episode 21 of season 3 where the latter tells him to start a new family and love them dearly or run the risk of repeating the same history over and over again. You could argue that this was just a throwaway line or something meant to strengthen Grisha's resolve but the fact that Kruger was literally standing on top of the FOURTH WALL and telling this to him makes me believe that it was directed more towards the audience than at Grisha. |
Jul 15, 2021 5:29 PM
#25
Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. But the love MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. Again, the love Ymir had for the king wasn't supposed to be romantic. It's the most negative form of love out there born out of fear and an instinct to survive. As for the whole "why did she let herself die?" Debacle, eventhough she was in "love" with the king, there was a small part of her that wanted to be free. She wasn't a complete slave because of how she eventually listened to Eren and the moment she freed the pigs. So she does yearn for some form of freedom from this "love" she had for the king. When she got hit by the spear and was dying, she thought she could finally escape this painful feeling of love by letting herself die. Only that didn't work. His daughters are her corpse and she found herself in Paths. She realised she might never actually free from the King and continued to do his bidding and create more Titans. Also, I don't think the theme of love was shoehorned in. There were bits and pieces sprinkled throughout the narrative. The main example being the convo between Grisha and The Owl at the end of episode 21 of season 3 where the latter tells him to start a new family and love them dearly or run the risk of repeating the same history over and over again. You could argue that this was just a throwaway line or something meant to strengthen Grisha's resolve but the fact that Kruger was literally standing on top of the FOURTH WALL and telling this to him makes me believe that it was directed more towards the audience than at Grisha. You do realize isayama stated thier children was proof of thier romantic bond in the guidebook right? He means there love is a romantic one and it's disgusting. Stop defending bad writing your not getting paid for this. |
Jul 16, 2021 6:11 AM
#26
MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. But the love MangoManga123 said: Neil1998 said: MangoManga123 said: deg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now This is wrong in the guidebook isayama stated it was true love, and used the word "aishiteru" in the manga which is iirc the purest form of love. Stockholm syndrome is headcanon that 139 defenders and normal people used initially to make 139 make sense. It's horrible writing Here's my question. If Ymir was really in love with King Fritz, then why did she wanted to be free from his "love" in the first place? She could have just went on creating Titans in Paths but instead she wanted to somehow let go of this feeling that had kept her captive for centuries. Because AOT wasn't about romantic love, to begin with. It was a theme shoehorned in at the last second to make Mikasa the chosen one. It's the same reason chapter 122 makes no sense now because if she really loved him she wouldn't have let herself die. Only ymir knows. Again, the love Ymir had for the king wasn't supposed to be romantic. It's the most negative form of love out there born out of fear and an instinct to survive. As for the whole "why did she let herself die?" Debacle, eventhough she was in "love" with the king, there was a small part of her that wanted to be free. She wasn't a complete slave because of how she eventually listened to Eren and the moment she freed the pigs. So she does yearn for some form of freedom from this "love" she had for the king. When she got hit by the spear and was dying, she thought she could finally escape this painful feeling of love by letting herself die. Only that didn't work. His daughters are her corpse and she found herself in Paths. She realised she might never actually free from the King and continued to do his bidding and create more Titans. Also, I don't think the theme of love was shoehorned in. There were bits and pieces sprinkled throughout the narrative. The main example being the convo between Grisha and The Owl at the end of episode 21 of season 3 where the latter tells him to start a new family and love them dearly or run the risk of repeating the same history over and over again. You could argue that this was just a throwaway line or something meant to strengthen Grisha's resolve but the fact that Kruger was literally standing on top of the FOURTH WALL and telling this to him makes me believe that it was directed more towards the audience than at Grisha. You do realize isayama stated thier children was proof of thier romantic bond in the guidebook right? He means there love is a romantic one and it's disgusting. Stop defending bad writing your not getting paid for this. I saw the page and it didn't say romantic bond. What it said was: "As lonely as she was, her children were proof of her bond with King Fritz." It never says romantic. If she is suffering from Stockholm Syndrome, then she will obviously see the children she had with The King as more reason to love him. Of course, she will see it as proof of the bond. She never experienced what real love is. The relationship she had with the King is probably the only bond she had in her entire life. Of course, she will think it's genuine. |
Jul 16, 2021 11:07 AM
#27
engich said: Neil1998 said: She never experienced what real love is. The relationship she had with the King is probably the only bond she had in her entire life. Of course, she will think it's genuine. She had a family in her village sister, stop your mental gymnastics. It should've been enough to understand that burning village, cutting tongue and raping someone is not love. She loved the guy just because he's such a chad. I am not claiming that this is real love though. Like I said before, if she really did love the king then why did the hell did she want to be free from this feeling called love. Why did she wanted to be free if the love she felt was genuine? Like I said, she didn't understand what love is atleast in the romantic sense. |
Jul 16, 2021 12:47 PM
#28
engich said: Neil1998 said: engich said: Neil1998 said: She never experienced what real love is. The relationship she had with the King is probably the only bond she had in her entire life. Of course, she will think it's genuine. She had a family in her village sister, stop your mental gymnastics. It should've been enough to understand that burning village, cutting tongue and raping someone is not love. She loved the guy just because he's such a chad. I am not claiming that this is real love though. Like I said before, if she really did love the king then why did the hell did she want to be free from this feeling called love. Why did she wanted to be free if the love she felt was genuine? Like I said, she didn't understand what love is atleast in the romantic sense. Nah sis you have to be retarded to think that someone can mistake rape and abuse for love. That's not how even your "stockholm syndrome" headcanon works. That's just a bad writing. But that's how Stockholm Syndrome works though. There are lots of people who suffered abuse that still went on to defend their abuser and it's not because they're retarded as you claim it to be. All they need is the tiniest sliver of kindness to show gratitude or affection towards their abuser. It doesn't even need to be that big of an act either. For Ymir, it came in the form of their children (and maybe even the fact that the king allowed her to live for so long) that made her believe that the bond between them was real. I rather believe in this explanation than in your headcanon that "Ymir loved the king because he's a Chad." |
Jul 16, 2021 2:50 PM
#29
engich said: Neil1998 said: engich said: Neil1998 said: engich said: Neil1998 said: She never experienced what real love is. The relationship she had with the King is probably the only bond she had in her entire life. Of course, she will think it's genuine. She had a family in her village sister, stop your mental gymnastics. It should've been enough to understand that burning village, cutting tongue and raping someone is not love. She loved the guy just because he's such a chad. I am not claiming that this is real love though. Like I said before, if she really did love the king then why did the hell did she want to be free from this feeling called love. Why did she wanted to be free if the love she felt was genuine? Like I said, she didn't understand what love is atleast in the romantic sense. Nah sis you have to be retarded to think that someone can mistake rape and abuse for love. That's not how even your "stockholm syndrome" headcanon works. That's just a bad writing. But that's how Stockholm Syndrome works though. There are lots of people who suffered abuse that still went on to defend their abuser and it's not because they're retarded as you claim it to be. All they need is the tiniest sliver of kindness to show gratitude or affection towards their abuser. It doesn't even need to be that big of an act either. For Ymir, it came in the form of their children (and maybe even the fact that the king allowed her to live for so long) that made her believe that the bond between them was real. I rather believe in this explanation than in your headcanon that "Ymir loved the king because he's a Chad." You kinda understand the concept of stockholm syndrome (which isn't even proven and studied) then and still don't understand that it doesn't really apply here. We don't see this "kindness" from Fritz at all. Yama didn't even bother to show it. So my "Ymir loved the king because he's a chad" is kinda seems less of a headcanon then your "he showed a little of kindness and she loved him because of that". But I just told you that Ymir saw the children she had with the king as proof of his kindness. It doesn't need to be a huge act of kindness especially after the level of abuse that she endured. Any miniscule thing would do. You could even argue that she saw the same thing with her marriage to the king and the fact that he allowed her to live as his life. |
Jul 16, 2021 6:44 PM
#30
Neil1998 said: that's a lot of mental gymnastics. Nothing in 122 indicates something about loveengich said: Neil1998 said: engich said: Neil1998 said: engich said: Neil1998 said: She never experienced what real love is. The relationship she had with the King is probably the only bond she had in her entire life. Of course, she will think it's genuine. She had a family in her village sister, stop your mental gymnastics. It should've been enough to understand that burning village, cutting tongue and raping someone is not love. She loved the guy just because he's such a chad. I am not claiming that this is real love though. Like I said before, if she really did love the king then why did the hell did she want to be free from this feeling called love. Why did she wanted to be free if the love she felt was genuine? Like I said, she didn't understand what love is atleast in the romantic sense. Nah sis you have to be retarded to think that someone can mistake rape and abuse for love. That's not how even your "stockholm syndrome" headcanon works. That's just a bad writing. But that's how Stockholm Syndrome works though. There are lots of people who suffered abuse that still went on to defend their abuser and it's not because they're retarded as you claim it to be. All they need is the tiniest sliver of kindness to show gratitude or affection towards their abuser. It doesn't even need to be that big of an act either. For Ymir, it came in the form of their children (and maybe even the fact that the king allowed her to live for so long) that made her believe that the bond between them was real. I rather believe in this explanation than in your headcanon that "Ymir loved the king because he's a Chad." You kinda understand the concept of stockholm syndrome (which isn't even proven and studied) then and still don't understand that it doesn't really apply here. We don't see this "kindness" from Fritz at all. Yama didn't even bother to show it. So my "Ymir loved the king because he's a chad" is kinda seems less of a headcanon then your "he showed a little of kindness and she loved him because of that". But I just told you that Ymir saw the children she had with the king as proof of his kindness. It doesn't need to be a huge act of kindness especially after the level of abuse that she endured. Any miniscule thing would do. You could even argue that she saw the same thing with her marriage to the king and the fact that he allowed her to live as his life. |
| Attack on Titan ended with chapter 123 and 130/131 is the epilogue |
Jul 16, 2021 7:56 PM
#31
| i really didnt think much about that other than she loves that boomer who enslaved her |
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Jul 18, 2021 9:06 PM
#32
Roger1 said: I mean kanekis hair turned white due to a syndromedeg said: stockholm syndrome aka the victim loving their abuser is common in real life and wait for the official scanlation of the manga in roughly 5-7 hours from now That reason doesn’t make it better though at least for me. Yeah I’m waiting for the official one and hopefully it’s actually an error cause it will make less sense if it isn’t. |
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