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Dec 13, 2020 8:45 AM
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People were worried about the pacing, telling persons to go read the manga before we even watch the second episode, but after watching the second episode we are in good hands the pacing will be good.

They are rearranging scenes in the anime, just like how they did in season 1 in some episodes and if they are skipping any contents it wont be anything that will harm the plot.

A really good adaptation is not following the source material word for word, but instead giving the anime its own identity and I really like what I am seeing, also adding a bit of anime original scenes that adds more to the series overall and also give us manga readers something new to see as well.

All my worries are not completely gone, we are in good hands. Thank you Mappa for taking up this series.

Now everyone its time we stop the fear mongering and enjoy the series, this is the final season after all. Enjoy it while it last.

keragammingDec 13, 2020 8:52 AM
Dec 13, 2020 1:27 PM
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As an anime-only nothing felt rushed either.
Dec 13, 2020 1:28 PM
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Honestly I prefer this version, the manga spent so much time on one scene in this arc with the exposition so shifting between scenes during the exposition so viewers dont get bored was a good strategy from mappa.
Dec 13, 2020 1:29 PM
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Still too soon to tell, but yes they are on the right track so far.
Dec 13, 2020 1:34 PM
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.
Dec 13, 2020 1:37 PM
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.


a lot of that is barely mentioned or never mentioned in the manga later on, so the cuts helped it. It really wasnt rushed at all imo
Dec 13, 2020 1:39 PM
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keragamming said:
People were worried about the pacing, telling persons to go read the manga before we even watch the second episode, but after watching the second episode we are in good hands the pacing will be good.

They are rearranging scenes in the anime, just like how they did in season 1 in some episodes and if they are skipping any contents it wont be anything that will harm the plot.

A really good adaptation is not following the source material word for word, but instead giving the anime its own identity and I really like what I am seeing, also adding a bit of anime original scenes that adds more to the series overall and also give us manga readers something new to see as well.

All my worries are not completely gone, we are in good hands. Thank you Mappa for taking up this series.

Now everyone its time we stop the fear mongering and enjoy the series, this is the final season after all. Enjoy it while it last.





They adapted chapter 93, a big part of 94 and half o 95. Thats way too much. They should've added the flashback images like in the manga and they didnt talk about the ackerman science what makes me really mad
Dec 13, 2020 1:39 PM
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.
I literally reread the chapters and half of what you mentioned is fluff for extra minor characterization. Hardly "rushed and lazy".


Dec 13, 2020 1:40 PM
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.


Even if this is a troll I unfortunatly have to agree with some of it for now. They skipped so many scenes that I've been wanting to se animated for years. It's not bad tho, just disappointing, as a manga reader that is
Dec 13, 2020 1:49 PM

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Y'all are not even using your brains. Re-ordering scenes does not mean cutting them. Whatever major stuff you thought has been cut probably is gonna be addressed later.
Dec 13, 2020 1:53 PM

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TodorokiBNHA said:
keragamming said:
People were worried about the pacing, telling persons to go read the manga before we even watch the second episode, but after watching the second episode we are in good hands the pacing will be good.

They are rearranging scenes in the anime, just like how they did in season 1 in some episodes and if they are skipping any contents it wont be anything that will harm the plot.

A really good adaptation is not following the source material word for word, but instead giving the anime its own identity and I really like what I am seeing, also adding a bit of anime original scenes that adds more to the series overall and also give us manga readers something new to see as well.

All my worries are not completely gone, we are in good hands. Thank you Mappa for taking up this series.

Now everyone its time we stop the fear mongering and enjoy the series, this is the final season after all. Enjoy it while it last.





They adapted chapter 93, a big part of 94 and half o 95. Thats way too much. They should've added the flashback images like in the manga and they didnt talk about the ackerman science what makes me really mad


They are adding the flashback in next episode, so all of episode 3 will be a flashback, go and watch the preview for the next episode.

the ackerman will be brought up back in chapter 112, which is why they skip it. People need to realize that this is a visual medium if they were to adapt the manga word for word we would have characters sitting down in one place speaking for 10 minutes straight not good for a visual medium and also this would cause probably with the limited time for each episode.

You guys need to consider these things.

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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.


Even if this is a troll I unfortunatly have to agree with some of it for now. They skipped so many scenes that I've been wanting to se animated for years. It's not bad tho, just disappointing, as a manga reader that is


There is a difference between scenes that you want to see and scenes that are important to the plot, they can't adapt everything in it and I hope you will get use to this, because some stuff will be skip in future episodes.

the adaptation isn't meant to be a carbon copy of the manga.
keragammingDec 13, 2020 1:56 PM
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.
I literally reread the chapters and half of what you mentioned is fluff for extra minor characterization. Hardly "rushed and lazy".
Well if it’s so minor why didn’t they add them. It’s not like adding little shots of the survey cour would have taken any extra time. They just didn’t cause they’re lazy
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Turth3 said:
Emblemz said:
I literally reread the chapters and half of what you mentioned is fluff for extra minor characterization. Hardly "rushed and lazy".
Well if it’s so minor why didn’t they add them. It’s not like adding little shots of the survey cour would have taken any extra time. They just didn’t cause they’re lazy


Yes, a studio literally killing themselves picking up so many popular series along with AOT and trying to keep it as easy to follow as possible while also trying to animate the characters so they dont look too off despite being in the hands of a new studio is them being lazy. I think you need a dictionary.
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Turth3 said:
Emblemz said:
I literally reread the chapters and half of what you mentioned is fluff for extra minor characterization. Hardly "rushed and lazy".
Well if it’s so minor why didn’t they add them. It’s not like adding little shots of the survey cour would have taken any extra time. They just didn’t cause they’re lazy


Dude these people have had sleepless nights working on this series, I don't think you have been following behind the scenes.

Also, there is a lot of minor scenes they skip, you make it sound like its a single scene they skip. Just admit that you didn't want them to skip anything.

I bet you were not behaving like this when wit skip so much of the uprising arc in season 3 part 1.
Dec 13, 2020 2:00 PM

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The summary of episode 2,3 and 4 were out a day after episode 1 though and all those episodes are covering 2 chapters like wit so don't worry about pacing and this season will cover till chapter 122 or 124 with in those 16 episodes and final arc which is ongoing right now will air as a movie or something (could be split too)
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Y'all are not even using your brains. Re-ordering scenes does not mean cutting them. Whatever major stuff you thought has been cut probably is gonna be addressed later.
At least someone said the only relevant thing. Thank you!
Dec 13, 2020 2:51 PM

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1Kyo said:
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As an anime-only nothing felt rushed either.

So how does an anime only have a manga only Eren profile pic


This pic is the same one shown in the trailer though right?
IDK, I just saw this on google images and decided it looked good as a profile picture.
Dec 13, 2020 3:21 PM

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keragamming said:
People were worried about the pacing, telling persons to go read the manga before we even watch the second episode, but after watching the second episode we are in good hands the pacing will be good.

They are rearranging scenes in the anime, just like how they did in season 1 in some episodes and if they are skipping any contents it wont be anything that will harm the plot.

A really good adaptation is not following the source material word for word, but instead giving the anime its own identity and I really like what I am seeing, also adding a bit of anime original scenes that adds more to the series overall and also give us manga readers something new to see as well.

All my worries are not completely gone, we are in good hands. Thank you Mappa for taking up this series.

Now everyone its time we stop the fear mongering and enjoy the series, this is the final season after all. Enjoy it while it last.



I agree, aside from a few very minor nit picks not even worth mentioning, the adaptation by MAPPA so far has been great, and the pacing has been fine. People seem to think that flashbacks are being skimped out on and panels have been cut. It's likely they'll be covered as part of a flashback episode next week.
Dec 13, 2020 3:32 PM
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The pacing wasn't fine. There wasn't time to let information sink in, it just glossed over everything. No tension or drama
Dec 13, 2020 3:49 PM

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Seems like some people don't know what pacing is.
Dec 13, 2020 3:58 PM

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They're probably gonna explain the "ackerman science" later since we saw Kenny in the preview. As Dac said, things will get rearranged. The manga probably had a lot more dialogue but this adaptation is fine. As an anime only I really thought how good the writing is. The fact that the concept of freedom is unknown to these so called "good eldians". Simple things like eating a potato out of time is the work of the devil.

Though I do love my dialogue scenes, I think cutting out some of it comes for a good adaptation. I'd love to read the manga for some more insight and more dialogue and I am reading the manga simultaneously with the anime.

The pacing is really good imo. It didn't feel rushed at all and I enjoyed this episode probably more than last week's even if it was a dialogue heavy episode. I said this before and I'll say it again. A faithful adaptation doesn't automatically translate to a good adaptation.
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I think it's a bit pointless to be discussing this so early. Like others said, many stuff can still be rearranged in a different order in the anime, so we have no way to really judge the pacing so far.

It's been 2 episodes guys, chill.
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Turth3 said:
Emblemz said:
I literally reread the chapters and half of what you mentioned is fluff for extra minor characterization. Hardly "rushed and lazy".
Well if it’s so minor why didn’t they add them. It’s not like adding little shots of the survey cour would have taken any extra time. They just didn’t cause they’re lazy


Lazy? What a disrespectful, entitled take.
Dec 13, 2020 6:11 PM
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I believe when people think something is rushed as hell, they should refer to Tokyo Ghoul :re S2. Perfect example of rushed to all hell.
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Well if it’s so minor why didn’t they add them. It’s not like adding little shots of the survey cour would have taken any extra time. They just didn’t cause they’re lazy


Lazy? What a disrespectful, entitled take.


A good pacing doesn't mean it has to be exactly like the manga, a good pacing is when "a newcomer/ anime watchers" watch it and still understand everything, and that little convo? It won't hurt the main plot at all so chill and enjoy.
If you wan it to be exactly like the manga than just don't watch the anime if you're dissatisfied, no one is forcing you
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pacing so good for anime only

for manga readers some like good, some hate it
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Based on the second episode, my worries about the pacing have been put to rest for now. The reordering of scenes is nice and helps with narrative flow. A lot of the cut content were throwaway lines and random exposition we are already familiar with or will be shown again later. Although I feel like they could have cut the OP/ED which would have given them like 3 minutes, and animate some scenes I felt like had some importance (Eldians walking back to the camp as Marleyans look in disgust, Gabi meeting her parents while Reiner is in the back looking sad, Brief convo with gabi and reiner). I feel like people have to understand most adaptations cut content to some degree and will mostly never be 1:1 in that regard. So long as they're not cutting important dialogue, character arcs, character moments, and other major stuff it should be fine. I do not blame them especially given the limited episode framework they were given.

At the moment if they are adapting reiner's flashbacks in one episode I am kinda worried because I remember that being pretty dense. Ideally it should be around 2 episodes, but if they can not at least make it an episode and a half.
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Lots of people are forgetting that most of the cut lore bits (e.g. stuff in the Zeke-Colt conversation) can just be added in the "Currently Available Information" cards in the next couple of episodes.

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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.
yeah Mappa screwed it up so badly, a lot of important things getting cut
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Nah rushed as hell. This show needed way more time. So many cut moments, half the war convo, Ackerman titan science, Gabi sneaking up on Falco, half of Gabi dialogue when she returns to Liberio, Gabi Falco headbutt, Mister gate keeper, Piecks ass, also they just skimp out on drawing any flashback panels, no ominous colossal or attack titan, no Reiner big brother or any of the survey cour. This entire season just feels rushed and lazy. Anime onlies don’t even know how bad they’re getting it, just go read the manga.
yeah Mappa screwed it up so badly, a lot of important things getting cut


Re-arranging certain things to appear in later episodes does not mean its getting cut from the source material lol
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yeah Mappa screwed it up so badly, a lot of important things getting cut


Re-arranging certain things to appear in later episodes does not mean its getting cut from the source material lol
u saw how he said cut important things out? that is like the worst lie ive heard. Man i feel like people on mal forgot sense and how to enjoy things as soon as they left their mother's basement
Dec 14, 2020 1:51 AM
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anime only must be very desperate to see eren comeback.

for that maybe rushing little bit will be forgiven i think
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I think nothing felt rushed.

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