| Why would you watch it raw when its not six months of waiting for DVD/BD quality or a week for some fun subber doing subs cuz of netflix but like one hour from having subs. edit: Thats better. |
SwagernatorSep 21, 2019 11:24 AM
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| I stg "Case Files is a bad mystery show" is the new "Shirou is a shounen protagonist". How many times does the series have to tell you to not try to solve the mystery and just enjoy the lore, characters, and spectacle of unraveling the magical truths? They even printed it on a t-shirt, goddammit. No, but seriously, what more should the series do to convey that it's NOT a detective mystery? It tells the audience over and over that the "who" and "how", the pillars of detective mysteries, are irrelevant. Swagernator said: Why would you watch it raw .. come on. Basically what Air said. I usually get the gist of the events from raws and I was excited to see what happened after that cliffhanger. |
astroprogsSep 21, 2019 12:34 PM
Reines is way too excited for someone who just got slingshot at the speed of sound. I just love her. |
astroprogsSep 21, 2019 12:45 PM
| Case Files is a show that's meant to cater to Nasunerds. But as an anime it's obviously available to a much bigger audience than just ''Nasunerds''. CF having this sort of reception was inevitable the moment half of it's audience became people who don't even understand Nasuspeak - practically half the appeal of the show. People watched Moonlit Lostroom even when it was outlined for them by others not do that unless you're a FGOfag. And people not caring about Nasu lore is sometimes a prominent thing even among ''primaries''. |
| Yeah. Couple that with some people's inability to accept that some shows appeal to certain demographics and not all anime shows appeal to every single watcher's palette and you get this reception. |
| CF was bad when they decided it to make it a Iskander wank. The only reason CF is watchable for me is because of cameos, nasuverse lore and perhaps gray and reines. Even outside my opinion, it's hard to keep up with this series unless you're a super fatefag. To my surprise, zerofags gtfo from this earlier when they realized they can't process half of what's being discussed. 2hard2understand 4 them. |
| When Gray went π¬ππ¦π’π I felt that. Srsly, the last 5 mins were awesome. Would've been even more awesome if the lines were said w/ the respective VAs, but obvs that's unrealistic production-wise. Man I can't wait for Kay Where can I buy this shirt. Also got really excited when you mention that VA. Like damn, it was still an fun performance but I was expecting HIM ya know, as you went out of your way. It made no sense, but ya know.... |
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Veromaye said: CF was bad when they decided it to make it a Iskander wank. The only reason CF is watchable for me is because of cameos, nasuverse lore and perhaps gray and reines. Even outside my opinion, it's hard to keep up with this series unless you're a super fatefag. To my surprise, zerofags gtfo from this earlier when they realized they can't process half of what's being discussed. 2hard2understand 4 them. I mean, Sanda pretty much said that he wanted a Nasuverse mystery in Kara no Kyoukai's style and with F/SN and F/Z (source materials, not anime of course) as the foundation. What gets me a bit miffed is not only the anime-onlies recommending Zero as the only prerequisite for watching it, and just the anime at that, before watching it or even knowing what it's about beyond the three lines of summary. Characters like Caules, Kairi and Olga aside, people had to freaking explain why Artoria retained her memories from the 4th to the 5th war. Those people have at least one VN and one LN they need to read to completion before bothering with this anime. mira-pyon said: Where can I buy this shirt. http://nijigencospa.com/detail/id/00000094016 Make sure to get the matching phone case for maximum whydunit-ness: http://nijigencospa.com/detail/id/00000094037 It's sold out on western resllers, sadly: https://www.play-asia.com/lord-el-melloi-ii-case-files-rail-zeppelin-grace-note-lord-el-/13/70cxar http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/NEOGDS-352737 |
astroprogsSep 21, 2019 4:42 PM
| Case Files was pretty cool this week, but I'm still pretty miffed that they just named dropped Touko again with no cameo. STOP TEASING ME. |
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astroprogs said: Reines is way too excited for someone who just got slingshot at the speed of sound. I just love her. why do i not remember that scene, it isnt in the newest ep and couldnt find it in ep 11 :thonk: astroprogs said: Yeah. Couple that with some people's inability to accept that some shows appeal to certain demographics and not all anime shows appeal to every single watcher's palette and you get this reception. also this but damn this ep was :eggplant:   |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
K is sanda or the director of the anime a code gayass stan no fcking wya this wasnt a code geass reference REEEEE |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| The seals thirteen scene was cool. Who the hell is Dr Heartless lmao. He came out of nowhere. |
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mira-pyon said: When Gray went π¬ππ¦π’π I felt that. Srsly, the last 5 mins were awesome. Would've been even more awesome if the lines were said w/ the respective VAs, but obvs that's unrealistic production-wise. Man I can't wait for Kay Where can I buy this shirt. Also got really excited when you mention that VA. Like damn, it was still an fun performance but I was expecting HIM ya know, as you went out of your way. It made no sense, but ya know.... i mean argavain and gaheris dont have VAs yte :S |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| Karabo Frampton might have my favorite set of Mystic Eyes in the Nasuverse, in theory. If only he used them to do more than make tiny cuts on Feika in this episode. Seal Thirteen was indeed the hypest. |
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| everything is cool in theory 75% of that theoruy is just never used properly |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| He used his eyes to their full potential in Case Files... and I wasn't too impressed. I mean, making cuts in arbitrary space is OP and all, but it's impossibly hard to compete against eyes that can kill concepts. Call me when Karabo can cut the literal concept of time and space. |
| They really did good job with seal thirteen scene. |
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| I kinda find the actual beam of Rhongo to be a bit lacking TBH. I hope they post-process FX the shit out of it in the bluray. Currently, it even looks better in FGO, a game limited by mobile hardware , than here, a full-fledged anime. |
Kaiser-kun said: Who the hell is Dr Heartless lmao. He came out of nowhere. The guy w/ no heart they were talking about like an ep or two ago. Also I forgot to mention, Dr Heartless sounds like the perfect name for Gil srynotsry |
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| I dont find this lacking at all. |
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| astro, answer my qestion reee |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
Swagernator said: I dont find this lacking at all. It's a column of solid color, there isn't even a color gradiant. You can't see the tip attacking, just the beam. The rotating mana and wind around the spear looks so grimey and the yellow isn't nearly flashy enough for something that should be this powerful. The rotating mana and wind have low frame count. It doesn't look as smooth as it should be. It's the most boring beam I've ever seen in a Fate anime TBH. Just look how much better it looks in FGO: Look how ufotable made Excalibur look so powerful, majestic and awe-inspiring.  Now look at this DEEN-tier shit.  Look harder? lol The scene is in episode 12 after Reines appears besides the real Caules. |
astroprogsSep 22, 2019 2:46 AM
| Imagine being this picky. Also that fgo video looks like if it was some mobile game or something. Next time compare it to HF movies or something with even more budged. |
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| Like its a fucking beam of light, what more do you want from it ? To tell you a story ? |
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| :bow: k yea saw the scene probably didnt help that i was expecting a small animatied scene of her flying and not just that 2 second clip |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
Swagernator said: Imagine being this picky. Also that fgo video looks like if it was some mobile game or something. Next time compare it to HF movies or something with even more budged. Case Files has a handful of action scenes. There's zero excuses for why this action scene at the climax of the entire season doesn't look as good as it could be. And yet the mobile game still looks better. Swagernator said: Like its a fucking beam of light, what more do you want from it ? To tell you a story ? It doesn't even compare to 3rei's budget-starved Excalibur, let alone anything ufotable's ever did.  I want it to be comparable to any Fate work we got since 2010, when it comes to the action. This isn't that much of an ask when this series has a lot less to animate compared to any standard Fate show. |
astroprogsSep 22, 2019 3:11 AM
| Then you must be wearing different set of eyes than i am. |
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| Ones that can see? :p |
| Its the age dad. |
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| Just goes to show how spoiled we are. Some unfortunate series had it much worse than case files. |
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| Damn whippersnappers! Back in my day anime beams gave us seizures and we enjoyed every brain-frying second of it. We smiled in our comas all the way to the hospital. Botato said: Just goes to show how spoiled we are. Some unfortunate series had it much worse than case files. This is an arunment for how shit these shows had it, not an argument for how good Case Files is. There are degrees of quality, not just "good" and "bad", ya know. |
| What I'm saying is, I'd settle for what Case Files got. |
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| I wouldn't, honestly. As I see it, there's no reason whatsoever for any Anilpex Fate show to looks any less than optimal after FGO. At lease Kadokawa has the excuse of not having their hands in the FGO pie with Prillya. Aniplex has none. |
Botato said: Just goes to show how spoiled we are Are we though? Considering the amount of money and fans that go into this franchise, I'd wager they should put more effort into their anime. |
AirConditioner said: put more effort into their anime. *and their games. |
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| Pretty sure I said that like last year or something, and no one cared :alterasip: And I wasn't taking the fgo money into account, I'm just saying this is just decent enough for your average anime, and I'm fine with it. I mean even if I did take fgo money into account it'd be irrelevant anyway. |
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| TROYCA did Aldnoah.Zero and Re;Creators and those shows had action scenes that are above and beyond what Case Files had. Case Files is certainly not the extent of what TROYCA can do, especially considering that their schedule shows that they didn't rush this. |
astroprogsSep 22, 2019 5:14 AM
| A bit from Beast's lair: Translation: "... "Quiet" The enraged female Heroic Spirit unsheathed her sword. I put myself in front of that lightning-like slash. "Add" "Hihihihihi! This again!" Absorbing the surrounding magical energy, Add expands. First Level Limited Release. A greatshield. I narrowly made it in time to protect my teacher but the dreadful impact penetrated the shield. It was a heavy attack, filled with the wrath of a Heroic Spirit, that would have taken away my entire body. ... Faker's movements accelerate. Avoiding my greatshield, she circles around to circumference of the still-moving train. Her superior athleticism makes a maneuver that almost breaks the laws of physics. Overwhelmingly fast, even my reinforced kinetic vision can't keep up with her. ..." It's just a case of the animation making her look bad like what the DEEN anime did with most Servants. The way the novel describes her she is far more threatening in every fight. One of my biggest issues in Case Files is that how they portray Faker is pretty underwhelming. |
Dab1za9 said: astroprogs said: TROYCA did Aldnoah.Zero and Re;Creators and those shows had action scenes that are above and beyond what Case Files had. Case Files is certainly not the extent of what TROYCA can do, especially considering that their schedule shows that they didn't rush this. Aldnoah was A-1 mainly but as i said it is the best they can do when Ei Aoki is doing another series right now that has a lot of the staff, last episode of Case files had short bits of animation by some great animators like Atsushi Ikariya and Daisuke Mataga both are main staff on ID:INVADED so they just helped probably because the schedule isn't really good( episode 11 was also fully outsourced) and not enough people are available. And i would say while Re creators had some good moments it was overall nothing special. Honestly, the studio's internal issues should be divorced from the audience's reception of the final product. It doesn't really matter what TROYCA was doing or wasn't doing, or who worked on what cut, what matters is that this show's action, the final product, doesn't look as good as it should have been. About Re;Creators, the point still stands, as it was a dual-cour show, which is much harder to schedule with almost no breaks (heck, even the recap episode they aired to give themselves more time had some new animated content in it). They scheduled that show right and its highs were certainly higher than the single-cour Case Files. Case Files action scenes kinda remind me of the TV version of 3rei's, albeit less in your face ugly. They scream unfinished. This makes me hopeful for the bluray, but I have no idea about TROYCA's track record with this sort of thing. |
| Well, watched the episode finally. It was ok. |
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| i just need someone to take the audio clip of seal thirteen and im good |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| I havent read CF's LN but the whole anime series, if we exclude loregasm was...pretty bad tbh as a whole. On one hand if I let the fan in me rate this it gets a 7 maybe 8 because of the references.But content wise....everything except the OST is pretty underwhelming. And can someone explain to me why Crafted Tree, which seems to be Caules magecraft is blatantly similar to Blasted Tree? At the end, Apo was at least fun.CF was just going from ep to ep building up something that didnt deliver. |
| ssj plz, this bringing your shit from discord here |
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| Same opinion. Why does it matter where I posted it first? |
| nah :p it doesnt just saying btu yea since cf is almsot over, score would be about 7/10 gray was easily the best character for me, and adult waver was alright(yes even the iskander agnst) would have liked to see more focus on the class waver teaches tho no idea if the ln or later vol do? like the ep with flat and sly was my fav part of CF beside gray using her np the heartless stuff was ehhhhhh if i didnt knew about it from spoiler already i would have probably raged, alot |
Mei-o_ScarlettSep 23, 2019 7:32 AM
| One of my favorite anituberisms was when people were saying Re:Zero was this intense deconstruction on anime tropes when it came out, and then years later when I got around to reading it it was just lolicon chuunige. |
| I enjoyed Case Files way more than Apocrypha TBH. >At the end, Apo was at least fun.CF was just going from ep to ep building up something that didnt deliver. I honestly feel the complete opposite. To me, Apocrypha was building to an epic climax and it stumbled literally every step on the way. Fight animation aside, not a single concept the show introduced got delivered on in a satisfying way. The journey was mediocrity after mediocrity and the destination is almost an insult. For Case Files, which just hit its halfway point, introduced a lot of very entertaining characters and had them play off each other to charming results. It introduced new lore and mixed the old and new. It introduced mysteries and had them solved in intriguing and unpredictable ways. At this point, I'm enjoying the journey itself so much, I don't care relatively as much about the destination. That's not to say that CF is flawless, oh no no no, definitely not, but the worst thing CF did IMO is the way they handled exposition, as they went the ufoUBW route and said "well, that'll be slightly difficult to adapt so throw this and that in the bin". God knows how much this infuriates me. My opinion may go up or does depending on how they handle the second season, but for now Case Files doesn't give me this apathetic numbness in my brain Apocrypha gave to me after almost every single episode. There's only so much plot stupidity I can take before I completely stop giving a shit. |
| Yeah, I have to agree that CF ultimately fell incredibly flat for me. It was probably the Nasuverse anime I enjoyed least aside from the atrocity that was the LE anime. I hated Apo's adaption because of how much it relegated time to solely the Black Camp and seemingly never really focused on the Red Camp, to the point of cutting all their backgrounds out, but even then I enjoyed the cast in Apo more than I did in CF. I enjoyed the fact that they gave us more Reines, Olga and Luvia, but over-all I didn't quite enjoy Waver or the remainder of the cast as much as I thought I would. Although Gray was cute, I guess. And as much as I don't like Sieg, I found myself more annoyed at Waver at times than I were at Sieg during Apo. |
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