AbuHumaid said: Huh, thought I replied to this one.@RE I'll use the same argument against you, why aren't you killed yet? I thought you're a good town player and always get killed early, you must be scum. I get killed early because I tend to be suspecting at least one scum while I'm alive. When I subbed in this game, 2 of the 3 scum were either dead or good as dead. Only one scum's left. And if that's the case and I'm still alive, chances are my reads were wrong. Besides, I wasn't making a general statement about you. I was commenting on your play, specific to this game. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| I'm going to vote now. I probably will wake up before phase change but I got no plans tomorrow so I might accidentally sleep in. So just in case. vote: yurkin |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| #2842 "throats. I don't know what yurkin has in mind, but personally, I already said what I had to say about the whole exchange you and Abu had, and I would only comment [...]" I wanted to take more sleep |
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| Alright, really not gonna post anything gg scum |
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RE said: I'm going to vote now. I probably will wake up before phase change but I got no plans tomorrow so I might accidentally sleep in. So just in case. vote: yurkin Btw if you're not scum here you need to get over your inactives bias |
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yurkin said: My vote isn't permanent, unless I manage to sleep in :IAlright, really not gonna post anything gg scum I don't understand why you are giving up right now. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
yurkin said: I'm aware inactivity =/= scum. Even ended up townreading Kiiruma despite him not posting.RE said: I'm going to vote now. I probably will wake up before phase change but I got no plans tomorrow so I might accidentally sleep in. So just in case. vote: yurkin Btw if you're not scum here you need to get over your inactives bias But you were active earlier in the game. When me and Abu started fighting (throughout the night and today), you've stopped posting too. It's not just inactivity alone, it's a drop in activity when the focus isn't on you, especially when we've reached a critical time :I You read me as town, you read Abu as scum. I've asked you questions that I don't think you want to answer, because..? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| Abu needs to explain why the more he argues with me, the less he thinks I'm scum. It could be a natural thought, but it's convenient for him to say that after I expressed willingness to vote yurkin. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| unvote I will wake up tomorrow in time. Probably. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
yurkin said: Kiana_Kaslana said: If I were the lost bunny I wouldn’t signal, that would be stupid, anybody can see it including town, and get lynched. Why are people saying the stupidest things. Kinda scummy Here post in question #273 Fists I couldn't understand why you take signaling so literally to something so blatant that can get you lynched. I honestly see it as agenta based. Signaling would be more like softing nothing obvious, pretending to have understood signaling as something obvious to the plain sight doesn't look good. Here how it goes - mafia wouldn't want to shoot the bunny early on because it will be revealing and pointless, while would be beneficial later on and in late game for various reasons. The lost bunny is probably aware of that and ofc wouldn't reveal in obvious way... BUT we never talked about obvious ways anyway. Mafia wouldn't want to shoot the bunny just the opposite. > if mafia doesn't want to shoot the bunny who is potential threat at late game town should lynch them instead. + Detective Egg can't detect them and etc. Big threat kyaa ^ Is the mindset of town that thought things out is supposed to be but is it really. Do you really hunt for the bunny early on instead of the scum. If you get where I'm going I'm not simply calling you scum. What do they call it again, mindset slip. Can you explain the bolded? What are you calling Kiana here? I just want to make sure. |
RE said: Mishukax said: Because it's either going to be a mislynch, or it's going to be a rand between the 4 living players (so 25% chance of hitting scum), if I don't vote the person voting me.Why would you have to vote Abu if you conclude he's town? I think I understand what you're saying but... Also, I don't think staying on the sidelines is that scummy when the two most likely scum are at each other's throats. And who decided that? Not me, that's for sure. Not Abu, that's for sure. From our perspectives, we're town. When there's only one scum left, everyone's input has the same value. Would you disagree that scum in MyLo, or LyLo, stay quiet while town argue with each other? Is that not how scum tend to play, anyway?And I've played a couple games while there was only one scum remaining. They do one of two things. They keep their options open, while letting town fight town, or they focus on one player specifically, also while letting town fight town. That is how scum win, when they play solo. They stay on the sidelines, away from the spotlight, while town eat each other alive. (Unless they're the powerwolfy type. But even then why do work when town can do you work for you.) "That's kinda scummy yo" Is what I would say if I didn't feel the same Here's questions for you (yurkin and Mishu). Should we be relying on NKA? If so, to any extent, what does NKA tell us? Does Abu buss D1/D2? While scum CAN buss, he's kind of bussed all his partners throughout the game. I know he's done this before, shading and all, but I haven't seen it to this extent, from him at least. Tingle, in Vanilla Mafia, hardbussed Dias D1, lynched him, and endgamed, so it's a workable strategy, which is why I haven't cleared him for that. But it is the one thing in his favor. Here's questions for Abu. What prompted you to switch your vote off Kiana and onto aa-dono Day 2? Did you see my reasoning on why Kiana was likely the one lying? If so, why lynch her and call it a coinflip (something along those lines)? 1. No, you can just vote someone else? 2. Yes, I would disagree. This is only from my experience. Scum goes hard to seal the deal. But okay, maybe yurkin is not that kind of scum. I can't know. 3. The questions: No, we should not be relying on NKA as much as VCA, at least. I kind of changed my mind on the D2 vote count and I think it's possible scum were adamant about lynching Kiana over dono, so that one's out the window. Abu was on scum the first three days (he was kinda voting dono on D3), while you and yurkin only got on scum dono when it became obvious she is scum (well, D1 doesn't count for you). D4-5-6 vote counts are hard to interpret. As for NKA, I don't know. It's possible that scum yurkin left Abu alive because they liked him going after RE. But I don't think it's that likely among the multiple possibilities. I think Abu bussing his teammates is possible, but he didn't bus in the hydra, so I want to believe him when he says he endorses teamwork as scum, but I'm not sure I like him underlining that fact here. Normally, scum don't bus early on because that makes them highly regarded as town, and it becomes unnatural for them to survive until endgame, thus making people suspect them again. They usually bus later on when it helps to bring a fresher town attitude to the table. Moreover, Abu didn't place his D1 vote by hiding behind Lucian, logic and Wisp's backs. That's all I can think of. |
yurkin said: Alright, really not gonna post anything gg scum Are you confused about who to vote or? Rereading D1 I saw you scumread me a lot, and I can't tell exactly when you stopped pushing me. Was it when ironace redirected me or was it earlier when Abu was making it a point that I'm town, or none of these? If you scumread Abu now, can you talk about it, or is it just a gut feeling? I have a hard time believing you wouldn't post content today after all those accusations on various players in the early days. It's fine if you don't have to say anything about toDay/yesterDay specifically, because I also don't have much. |
| Mmh, pressure was on RE, she was very reactive to it, but I feel like there's something wrong with it. Part of me thinks that a townie would have had a stronger backlash on Abu accompanied by a vote, considering they would know Abu is wrong, while scum would have done like her and tell Abu things like "if you're town, stop tunneling..." then on the side bring up yurkin or something. RE may be a careful town though. It's perfectly fine to think about yurkin and me right now. |
| What happened with Bajar :o sorry for being nosy |
AbuHumaid said: He was being an annoying prick, trolling, scumreading me for bad reasons, etc Aw shit. He's a nice guy, that's why I asked. |
AbuHumaid said: yurkin said: I hate posts that state the obvious, they usually come from scum.I don't see any positives in the claiming of random players Mr AbuHumaid said: yurkin said: @yurkin can you explain what you meant here? I didn't get what you were trying to say, were you defending Awa?Different people different personalities but worth mentioning that the scum game I just came put from I planned phrasing myself in very similar way to dono "I'm not convinced etc" when wanted to vote there because the person was town but lowkey wanted to leave door open to vote them later one. Thought it's too obv scummy so never posted but still. How does it sound as defending? I'm saying she phrased herself the way I planned to phrase myself as scum [on AB] |
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AbuHumaid said: yurkin said: That's quite the change in opinion, on D1 you were pushing Kiana and never said she's LB, then on your first post about Kiana on D2 you say she's LB with a weak reason too? It's clear that you figured that out because of Kiana's lie (that Awa is Jailer)Kiana knew LB can't be detected, she's probably it. She posted #332 then retracted when I posted what you just quoted |
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Kiana_Kaslana said: Also, the lost wolf can evade the detective egg (the best egg) if I read the mechanics right |
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AbuHumaid said: Wait a minute.... the post I quoted was the first time yurkin showed suspicion of Awa, and it was right after the Eyeh wagon was formed, could it be that she was trying to save Eyeh (who had the better role) and bus and cfd Awa instead? Why though. Just suspect someone other than dono. |
| yurkin found the LB on D1 though, didn't she? |
Mishukax said: I'd say I like to be careful? Sometimes.Mmh, pressure was on RE, she was very reactive to it, but I feel like there's something wrong with it. Part of me thinks that a townie would have had a stronger backlash on Abu accompanied by a vote, considering they would know Abu is wrong, while scum would have done like her and tell Abu things like "if you're town, stop tunneling..." then on the side bring up yurkin or something. RE may be a careful town though. It's perfectly fine to think about yurkin and me right now. But I also kind of forgot how much Abu pressured scum; or at least rationally looking at it, it was a strong-ass push. Could have bussed aa-dono harder instead of Eyeh day 1 too, if he wanted the credit. It's also not like I was dead set on Abu being scum (even though I may have sounded like it). I thought it was possible he was going for the final mislynch by going hard on me. I could link a game where I got super frustrated because confirmed town was tunneling me. Also disagree about the NKA. logic's and Phraze's deaths strongly point to yurkin. It's vital for scum to kill players who pose a threat to them via reads. Abu's also got a point. The last 2 games I was in, I was killed night 1. If I'm left alive, it's because I'm wrong, or mislynch bait (almost never the case on this site anymore). And yurkin was my strongest townread since I subbed in. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Mishukax said: yurkin found the LB on D1 though, didn't she? #Bragging rights |
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AbuHumaid said: Mishukax said: No, she never said that she thinks Kiana is LB on D1yurkin found the LB on D1 though, didn't she? I always thought that was the case because of the bolded in 2861, might have misunderstood though so I asked. |
| @RE >It's vital for scum to kill players who pose a threat to them via reads. True, but if scum aren't being dangerously scumread (like yurkin, yeah, but also like Abu and maybe you, actually kinda like everyone alive here before Kiiruma died) they can afford to kill whoever they want, so that renders your point moot. |
Mishukax said: AbuHumaid said: No, she never said that she thinks Kiana is LB on D1 I always thought that was the case because of the bolded in 2861, might have misunderstood though so I asked. Well I discovered her mindset, couldn't have been sure until wisp's result |
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AbuHumaid said: She said "what do you call it, a mindset slip" after that She meant Kiana was scum because she was focused on finding LB, not she's LB. Thought she said she's wasn't simply calling her scum, but was calling her LB. |
AbuHumaid said: Mishukax said: She said "what do you call it, a mindset slip" after thatI always thought that was the case because of the bolded in 2861, might have misunderstood though so I asked. She meant Kiana was scum because she was focused on finding LB, not she's LB. No it's bit more complex than that, don't want repeat myself unless you insist, pretty sure this talk doesn't lead anywhere |
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