I watched some episodes of Fullmetal Alchemist when i was highschool .. and I recently re-watching it! It has a great story and characters! I'm attached to the characters (that I feel sad for the Tucker family and Mae Hughes death T-T) and also the cutiee couples! I love Riza and Roy! but I'm sad that they are not canon.. or not completely get together even though it has many hints of liking each other.. I find it so sweet! Kyahh!! I'm a shipper now. Who else?? hahah
P.S. May Chang is so cuteeeee!!!
Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.
YamEnele said: I love Riza and Roy! but I'm sad that they are not canon.. or not completely get together even though it has many hints of liking each other..
Wait... it's not canon? Are you sure? My whole life is a lie. :'(
YamEnele said: I love Riza and Roy! but I'm sad that they are not canon.. or not completely get together even though it has many hints of liking each other..
Wait... it's not canon? Are you sure? My whole life is a lie. :'(
I think so.. because author really did not say they are canon. unlike Winry x Edward or May x Alphonse ..
= In the Manga Artbook 3, answering to fan questioning about why hasn't Mustang married Hawkeye at the end of the series, Arakawa stated "[I] can't get them to marry because of Military Regulations. If they got married, they could no longer stay as superior officer and subordinate". =
based on reddit.
Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.
Ceruzora said: I adore them too, I even have some artworks of the ship in my google drive. But I assumed that they're a canon couple since they match TOO WELL and there's a lot of sugestive moments featuring the two.
yeah.. haha whatever.. canon or not.. they are perfect for each other :D
Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.
I question the trivia about implications, much less heavy ones, of a romantic relationship with Hawkeye. They're frequently seen together, yes, but she works under him specifically until she is transferred to the Fuhrer. In fact, while both are seen a few times in their private life, they are NEVER seen together outside of performing a professional task or a task directly related to the grand plan. The closest they've come to ever being seen together on a remotely non-professional/coup-based occasion has been Roy having lunch with her. This is after using his expressedly adept people skills to asses in the prior chapter that all was not well by her voice. The fact that she starts up a conversation at all tips him off that she's giving a code. On top of that, they are not on a first name basis in their private life. Compare this to the fact that he calls Hughes and Havoc by name both on duty and off. Roy and Riza may have a special connection as detailed by the plot summary, but I think the romantic implication trvia should be removed, all things considered. 24.32.255.130 15:39, January 2, 2010 (UTC)Zel
Zel, looking at other Arakawa works, such as Souten no Komori and Juushin Enbu, and the way she usually portrays cannon parings (being there a actual relationship, or simply a romantic inclination), you get to realize some deep similarities with the relationship between Roy and Riza. Since she's not an author to put her parings blantly in her mangas, it doesn´t mean she does not intend into putting them as cannon. She usually alludes to it through particular lines and situations, not only on FMA but all her works. And all of that makes a sort of consensus, both in and out of Japan of them being a cannon, though not 'evident', couple. So, not having showed them in a context that in other animes are stated as being cannon doesn't make them 'not-cannon', since they fit Arakawa's description of cannon couples. Meaning: there's no need to actually SHOW them kissing or talking to eachother intimatelly to state that. I agree it may come off confusing by only reading (or watching) FMA, but, when you get to know Arakawa's work more closely, it's very clear. My suggestion it to change 'relationship' to 'feelings', since what's not clear through original work is not if they're in love with eachother, but if they do have a real relationship with eachother. --Turdaewen 14:25, January 3, 2010 (UTC)
Arakawa has and does make her pairings rather blatant; rather, the "relationships" that are "subtle" simply aren't the type of relationship people suppose them to be. Saying that it's the author's style is only begging the question for this pair and for every non-canon pair in her collection of works. Furthermore, the implication in the article that Arakawa said only their rank is either a mistranslation or another skewing of the given information in an attempt to make the pair canon when it is not. Arakawa stated that if they were to get married, military regulations would make it impossible; that is not the same as saying that rank is an in character reason for not writing it. It means their relationship is one of a subordinate and superior officer, and Arakawa further went on to emphasize that as the nature of Roy's relationships with everyone in his arc. This article has a lot of RoyAi pairing bias with this and the general wording, such as stating she is by far his most important relationship, when Hughes was his driving force for much of the manga and when his general kindness and concern for everybody was a point drilled in time and time again. It's not that she isn't an important character in relation to him, but there is no romance implied between them in canon and suppositions on it are best left to fan sites rather than an information wiki. --Zel
erenmeiiJan 1, 2019 8:59 PM
Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.
I mean Riza x Roy is like one of the most boring ships in the entire show because it's the obvious route. It's as bland as saying "Man i hope Edward and Winry end up together".
YamEnele said: I love Riza and Roy! but I'm sad that they are not canon.. or not completely get together even though it has many hints of liking each other..
Wait... it's not canon? Are you sure? My whole life is a lie. :'(
I think so.. because author really did not say they are canon. unlike Winry x Edward or May x Alphonse ..
= In the Manga Artbook 3, answering to fan questioning about why hasn't Mustang married Hawkeye at the end of the series, Arakawa stated "[I] can't get them to marry because of Military Regulations. If they got married, they could no longer stay as superior officer and subordinate". =
based on reddit.
There's a built in exception though, in the event Roy achieves his goal of becoming Fuhrer then they don't have to maintain the working relationship. So the ship is effectually canon if one of the main characters in the series went on to achieve his goal.
which has pretty much been outright stated by the author that he did
Roy even stated that he would marry her upon reaching the level of Fuhrer.
I mean this couple is awesome and I kind of understand why Riza stays in her role. A relationship at such important work place and position could get not only in yours, but in everyone's, way, but at the same time I wished she would not.
There's a built in exception though, in the event Roy achieves his goal of becoming Fuhrer then they don't have to maintain the working relationship. So the ship is effectually canon if one of the main characters in the series went on to achieve his goal.
which has pretty much been outright stated by the author that he did
Roy even stated that he would marry her upon reaching the level of Fuhrer.
ohhhhh? really?!! hahah where u get the info?
Proverbs 4:23
Above all else, guard your heart, for everything you do flows from it.
@YamEnele
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I think many scenes are up to your interpretation too.
Riza is called his dearest woman by King Bradley, I think, who threatened her life to make him helpless.
And she's indeed his closest confidante in the present.
He listened to her, even when he wanted to take revenge on Envy, because she told him that he couldn't lead a country with so little self-control.
She's damn right with this point of view, just saying, it was awesome how the series even takes in regard / overthinks the personality traits of a good leader.
But it was also a "me-message". Like "I wouldn't want to work for you then." So, she knows that her opinion is very important to him.
The thing is: Imo, they are never showed to be romantically involved. Well, there are a few scenes, from my point of view, but they are very subtle and also could be explained in a non-romantic way.
Your closest confidante could be indeed very close to you and you even could love her too, but not in a romantic way. So, we don't know.
Not being on first name basis is weird too, but it's a military setting and they are just used to it, I think.
There's a built in exception though, in the event Roy achieves his goal of becoming Fuhrer then they don't have to maintain the working relationship. So the ship is effectually canon if one of the main characters in the series went on to achieve his goal.
which has pretty much been outright stated by the author that he did
Roy even stated that he would marry her upon reaching the level of Fuhrer.
ohhhhh? really?!! hahah where u get the info?
I just used TVTropes for a quick reference. The first spoiler and the last spoiler for brotherhood are probably the two more important pieces of information.
God finally some intellectuals here Roy and Riza are the one true couple I love them
It’s too bad arakawa confirmed that they can’t get together because of their military rules, but I bet she still wants it to happen anyway ;)
juiccbox said: God finally some intellectuals here Roy and Riza are the one true couple I love them
It’s too bad arakawa confirmed that they can’t get together because of their military rules, but I bet she still wants it to happen anyway ;)
Roy is probably fuhrer now(after that Grumman guy) so he can change the rules I guess.Plus he can even enforce the tiny miniskirt regulations too :D
YamEnele said: I'm sad that they are not canon.. or not completely get together even though it has many hints of liking each other!!
They are definitely an anchored canon ship (and one of my OTPs as well). The author has mentioned that Roy and Riza would be married by not for their military positions which has a strict non-fraternization policy. Once they decide to retire however, we can then assume that they will settle down together.
ProfessionalNEET said: I'm not really that into ships of older characters, since I generally find young love to be more 'exciting'. I don't necessarily oppose the Hawkeye x Mustang ship, but it seems kind of dull in comparison to, say, Edward x Winry.
Gotta agree. I just realized I never really shipped Roy and Riza although they'd be good together. I knew they were great friends but I always saw it as more professional..