AirConditioner said: Nyarlathothep said: OMG OMG Lovecraftian Gods may become Servants ! I am glad I saved up Quartz, but I think may have used all my luck as of now since I got Angra Mainyu yesterday (Well, got a bad day yesterday so I like to think it was a compensation xD). But if they make Nyarlathotep rollable, I am so gonna whale, I will want him even more than I want to get Gilgamesh ! :o With Lovecraftian universe, they can go to other universes, or the Moon or the land of dreams, talk with cats too :o Don't think Nyarlathotep will be rollable. The entity Ashiya Douman is working for seems to certainly be Nyarlathotep in light of the new reveals, so Nyarl seems to be one of the main antagonists of part 2. Which means he'll get Goetia status and probably not be rollable. We can't summon him unless he decides to summon himself too since he has EX rank Divinity. Abigail is the Dunwich Horror though, if she tickles your fancy. >they can go to other universes This does indeed seem to be what's gonna be happening in FGO2. What seems to be a Yith appears to the protagonist at the end of Salem. Huuuh Not fair if it's really that :'( I think it could be possible for Nya to summon himself, actually At least give us Randolf Carter as a Servant o: The Dunwich Horror is supposed to be a guy, if I recall well.. Not sure Lovecraft would have appreciated that .. I thought Abigail was from another story but I was wrong. Well, if she's the only Lovecraftian character we can get, I guess I won't have much choice mira-pyon said: AirConditioner said: Which means he'll get Goetia status and probably not be rollable. We can't summon him unless he decides to summon himself too since he has EX rank Divinity. Okay okay but... what if Nyarl is a cute silver-haired caucasian chick? (That is, the JAlter treatment) Not so far in the future, you guys will know one who suits the description ~ Not silver, but still light-coloured hair :D |
NyarlathothepDec 3, 2017 1:27 PM
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mira-pyon said: I don't get why they're weak to Alteregos tho. Because Persona, probably. Nyarlathothep said: The Dunwich Horror is supposed to be a guy, if I recall well.. Not sure Lovecraft would have appreciated that .. I thought Abigail was from another story but I was wrong. Well, if she's the only Lovecraftian character we can get, I guess I won't have much choice She wasn't originally The Dunwich Horror, she was made to be by the pillar to contact an Outer God, presumably Yog-Sothoth. This is why you see her holding keys and has a keyhole on her forehead. "Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate." - The Dunwich Horror |
astroprogsDec 3, 2017 2:09 PM
astroprogs said: mira-pyon said: I don't get why they're weak to Alteregos tho. Because Persona, probably. Nyarlathothep said: The Dunwich Horror is supposed to be a guy, if I recall well.. Not sure Lovecraft would have appreciated that .. I thought Abigail was from another story but I was wrong. Well, if she's the only Lovecraftian character we can get, I guess I won't have much choice She wasn't originally The Dunwich Horror, she was made to be by the pillar to contact an Outer God, presumably Yog-Sothoth. This is why you see her holding keys and has a keyhole on her forehead. "Yog-Sothoth is the key and guardian of the gate." - The Dunwich Horror I should read the whole story when I have time, it seems .. If Carter appears, why doesn't he simply give her the Silver key, since he's the owner? That's how he could meet Yog-Sothoth. |
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Nyarlathothep said: I should read the whole story when I have time, it seems .. If Carter appears, why doesn't he simply give her the Silver key, since he's the owner? That's how he could meet Yog-Sothoth. I should correct myself. Abby IS the silver key, not The Dunwich Horror, my mistake. She's akin to an avatar of Yog himself that was made by the pillar. This is her NP chant: (Ygnaiih... Ygnaiih... Thflthkh’ngha). Waga te ni shirogane no kagi ari. Kyomu yori araware, sono yubisaki de fureta mon. Waga chichi naru kami yo. Ware, sono shinzui wo yadosu utsushimi to naran. Bara no nemuri wo koe, iza kyuukyoku no mon he to itaran! It translates into something like this: "(Father... Father, help me.) In my hand is a silver key. A gate appears from the nothingness, I touch it with my fingertips. O' my father god. I shall become a replacement to host its divine essence. Go beyond the sleep of the roses, and arrive at the ultimate gate! Qliphoth Rhizome!" Carter is |
astroprogs said: Nyarlathothep said: I should read the whole story when I have time, it seems .. If Carter appears, why doesn't he simply give her the Silver key, since he's the owner? That's how he could meet Yog-Sothoth. I should correct myself. Abby IS the silver key, not The Dunwich Horror, my mistake. She's akin to an avatar of Yog himself that was made by the pillar. This is her NP chant: (Ygnaiih... Ygnaiih... Thflthkh’ngha). Waga te ni shirogane no kagi ari. Kyomu yori araware, sono yubisaki de fureta mon. Waga chichi naru kami yo. Ware, sono shinzui wo yadosu utsushimi to naran. Bara no nemuri wo koe, iza kyuukyoku no mon he to itaran! It translates into something like this: "(Father... Father, help me.) In my hand is a silver key. A gate appears from the nothingness, I touch it with my fingertips. O' my father god. I shall become a replacement to host its divine essence. Go beyond the sleep of the roses, and arrive at the ultimate gate! Qliphoth Rhizome!" Carter is The Silver Key and the Dunwich Horror are two completely different things, even if they're both related to Yog-Sothoth. It makes more sense now, but then why does the Horror's mommy appear? Now, I have a reason to roll for her in the gacha : The Silver Key was my favourite story :D (Because of the philosophy behind it, and Carter was an awesome main character) |
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Nyarlathothep said: astroprogs said: I should correct myself. Abby IS the silver key, not The Dunwich Horror, my mistake. She's akin to an avatar of Yog himself that was made by the pillar. This is her NP chant: (Ygnaiih... Ygnaiih... Thflthkh’ngha). Waga te ni shirogane no kagi ari. Kyomu yori araware, sono yubisaki de fureta mon. Waga chichi naru kami yo. Ware, sono shinzui wo yadosu utsushimi to naran. Bara no nemuri wo koe, iza kyuukyoku no mon he to itaran! It translates into something like this: "(Father... Father, help me.) In my hand is a silver key. A gate appears from the nothingness, I touch it with my fingertips. O' my father god. I shall become a replacement to host its divine essence. Go beyond the sleep of the roses, and arrive at the ultimate gate! Qliphoth Rhizome!" Carter is The Silver Key and the Dunwich Horror are two completely different things, even if they're both related to Yog-Sothoth. It makes more sense now, but then why does the Horror's mommy appear? Now, I have a reason to roll for her in the gacha : The Silver Key was my favourite story :D (Because of the philosophy behind it, and Carter was an awesome main character) The Whateleys were brought by the pillar to Salem because he wanted to use their ritual to summon an Outer God. This is what lead him to Abby's potential to be superior to Lavinia as the silver key candidate. Here's a small spoiler to motivate you to read the story: |
astroprogs said: Nyarlathothep said: The Silver Key and the Dunwich Horror are two completely different things, even if they're both related to Yog-Sothoth. It makes more sense now, but then why does the Horror's mommy appear? Now, I have a reason to roll for her in the gacha : The Silver Key was my favourite story :D (Because of the philosophy behind it, and Carter was an awesome main character) The Whateleys were brought by the pillar to Salem because he wanted to use their ritual to summon an Outer God. This is what lead him to Abby's potential to be superior to Lavinia as the silver key candidate. Here's a small spoiler to motivate you to read the story: Wouldn't it just be easier for the pillar to get a full volume of the Necronomicon, instead of asking the small part the Whateleys own? Candidate? Ooooooooooh ! ~ But what if I use up all my Quartz to get Abigail and he's later summonable as a Servant ? Choices .. |
NyarlathothepDec 3, 2017 3:32 PM
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Nyarlathothep said: astroprogs said: The Whateleys were brought by the pillar to Salem because he wanted to use their ritual to summon an Outer God. This is what lead him to Abby's potential to be superior to Lavinia as the silver key candidate. Here's a small spoiler to motivate you to read the story: Wouldn't it just be easier for the pillar to get a full volume of the Necronomicon, instead of asking the small part the Whateleys own? Candidate? Ooooooooooh ! ~ But what if I use up all my Quartz to get Abigail and he's later summonable as a Servant ? Choices .. The Whateleys already successfully achieved the contact with an Outer God. They're all he needed. Also: About Abby being a candidate, both her and Lavinia were candidates to be the Silver key. The pillar found Abby to be much more suitable, mentally and for her superior magical potential. |
mira-pyon said: Okay okay but... what if Nyarl is a cute silver-haired caucasian chick who wants the D? (That is, the JAlter treatment) Tbh, I wouldn't put it behind TM. >.> Edit: It'd be cool to see how we would defeat the Outer Gods tho, considering how they're pure mindfuck and all(unless Nasu nerfs them or something). I don't get why they're weak to Alteregos tho. They'll be scaled down in power. Just like every mythology/fiction that's included into Fate. Some are too much crazier than the rest to be able to pit them up against each other properly. Outer Gods won't be destroying the world just by waking up lol (Azathoth). It's already apparent from Salem, since nobody straight up loses their mind from looking at a Lovecraftian Demi-God (Abigail). They'll still probably be ridiculously powerful, just not as described in Lovecraft's books. Which isn't anything new, since Lovecraft's own friend wrote stories about Lovecraft's creations and scaled down their power levels. >Why are they weak to Alter-Ego Because Carter is the Alter Ego of Lovecraft and he's experienced at dealing with the Outer Gods! Jokes aside, I've no idea. Unless the actual answer is something akin to that. Nyarlathothep said: Huuuh Not fair if it's really that :'( I think it could be possible for Nya to summon himself, actually At least give us Randolf Carter as a Servant o: The Dunwich Horror is supposed to be a guy, if I recall well.. Not sure Lovecraft would have appreciated that .. I thought Abigail was from another story but I was wrong. Well, if she's the only Lovecraftian character we can get, I guess I won't have much choice Nyarl could easily summon himself. But he's not very likely to do it, since he's the... primary antagonist (?). Lovecraft/Carter himself's definitely likely to become a playable Servant eventually though. Astro already answered your other questions, but just wanted to add on that the Dunwich Horror is a thing. Doesn't really have a gender in the original story. Besides, Lovecraft specifically intended for his creations to be used by others for their own works, so if anything I think he'd be delighted with Fate/ using his stuff. |
AirConditioner said: They'll be scaled down in power. Just like every mythology/fiction that's included into Fate. Some are too much crazier than the rest to be able to pit them up against each other properly. Yeah, I guess that was a dumb question, lol. Outer Gods won't be destroying the world just by waking up lol (Azathoth). I always found this one quite interesting, as it sounds somewhat like Type Mercury. Though I don't know enough about Types and the Outer Gods to formulate a real theory and I doubt the idea of everything going to shit when something wakes up is rare enough in fiction for this to be a noticeable link. |
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Frostbite_ said: I recall something about Cthulu being a TYPE that lost its planet or at least sort of like that in power. Don't quote me on that, though. Nah. Whoever told you that BS'd you or was fan-speculating. The only legitimate thing we know about the Old Ones like Cthulhu is that they're entities (foreign deities) from a higher dimension and that they're existences more akin to that of True Demons (but not entirely the same). They don't have anything to do with TYPEs, seemingly. |
| Months ago, I had this dream where I was Gilgamesh and had to grow up as him. The day has finally come, it seems .. |
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| Salem part 1 gacha is gonna end today. Surely part 2 will start soon after. |
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| Alright, now I'm back in my own house. Now I can focus on FGO again. Quitting NA though. |
| I'm pretty close to quitting NA myself at this point, especially since I don't have much free time nowadays. I haven't even started farming the NA event yet, and that has the amazing lottery. Sunk-cost fallacy will probably still keep me playing for the story, at least, but I really lack the vigor to repeat the event farming I went through 2 years ago. |
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| I didn't get the one freebie Alter-ego because I didn't have the time to grind for her in the Halloween event, just before the introduced the new class too... and I'm 100% fine with it. ShinsoPriest said: Alright, now I'm back in my own house. Now I can focus on FGO again. Quitting NA though. Yeah, I can't bring myself to grind in NA after I did in JP. Doubly so because some events I already grinded to completion TWICE in JP already (like the Nerofest and its rerun in JP). KingOfSherous said: I'm pretty close to quitting NA myself at this point, especially since I don't have much free time nowadays. I haven't even started farming the NA event yet, and that has the amazing lottery. Sunk-cost fallacy will probably still keep me playing for the story, at least, but I really lack the vigor to repeat the event farming I went through 2 years ago. You shouldn't feel obligated to grind for events if you don't have the time, really. Take it easy and just enjoy yourself. |
| I just farm enough to get the event servant and their mats. Imo, the lack of free quartz make it hard to get invested in NA as F2P. |
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| The Christmas event sealed the deal for me. I really don't want to grind for the lottery, and Santa Alter. Time is too valuable to waste it on that again. And I missed a few days from my trip to Florida which really hurts my motivation to continue playing. NA is also really stingy with the free quartz. |
| My Quartz and tickets keep piling up but there's nothing to use it on. |
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| I'm patiently waiting for amaksa and iskander in the NA the more piled up it get's the better |
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It's here...    Sheba is Story-locked, outside of this rate-up. Abby is LIMITED. Also, her NP changes with ascension. This is her first NP animation: |
astroprogsDec 6, 2017 1:33 AM
| Fuck you, Drake. I want the Loli, not a old hag. 3 SR and 1 SSR out of 17 tickets and 140 quartz. I didn't count the CE. |
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| well only got shiba after using 35 tickets (can't use SQ at this point yet) I'm disappointed but since it feels like the same story as with nursery rime (summon in every gatcha of her and fainally got her only in the first merlin gatcha) I hope it would at list end the same-_- |
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| Both of them look great, but I've no quartz to spare at the moment. Rip. |
| I didn't want to roll. At all. I took a break from Xenoblade and decided to use up stamina on FGO. Cleared hands. Looked at the new gacha. I have 24 tickets. But I didn't want to roll because I'm still BUTTHURT over the Summer gacha. But what the hell, just one ticket. Taps confirm. Missed. Taps it again. Missed. Calmly and slowly taps it. Long loading. Oh this usually means new Servant data is loading!? Non gold card appears. Ah, I guess not. Card explodes into sudden gold. [!?] Abigail: k-konnichiwa.. Me: Huh. I'm both amazed and dumbfounded. |
| Took 90 quartz but I managed to get Abigail. I also got Mordred, Lobo, and NP5 Herc on the first 10 roll. |
AirConditioner said: Both of them look great, but I've no quartz to spare at the moment. Rip. I lied. But I got her immediately, holy shit. |
| 170 Quartz and 16 Tickets and I failed to get Abigail OTL Got my 6th copy of Emiya .. He sure does love me Lol Got 2 other SRs but no SSR. I blame Angra Mainyu for that since I got him few days ago |
NyarlathothepDec 6, 2017 6:34 AM
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| 81 quartz(2 10 rolls and 7 singles), 12 tickets. 5 tickets - Mana prisms 1st 10 roll - NP 1 Sheba 2nd 10 roll - Mana prisms 7 tickets - NP 3 Sheba 21 Quartz - Mana prisms It seems our love is mutual and I have wasted no time to max ascend her. I regret nothing(well, I do regret spending my Caster gems on my recently-acquired Helena, but that's a different matter). No Abigail, but, meh, I don't really care for her(though she's cute). Guess I'll keep saving for Muramasa-Chiron. Edit: I wonder if Helena has any lines for Abi and vice versa. |
mira-pyonDec 6, 2017 8:13 AM
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| Sheba is one of the 3 SR I got (Other two are Emiya and Penthesilea), but I didn't care about her, unlike Abigail so I'm pretty disappointed :/ |
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| You'll be taking that back once you experience her cuteness. :I |
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| I like Sheba more too, but Abigail's cool in her last ascension so I ain't complaining about getting her. |
| Sheba is almost tailor made to accompany Caster Gil too, taking advantage of every single thing his kit can do. You all got a very good roll, so that's a big plus on the gameplay-side as well. |
mira-pyon said: You'll be taking that back once you experience her cuteness. :I "Cuteness" is not an argument for me, I couldn't care less about that. I wanted the "Silver key" based on Lovecraft's story :'( astroprogs said: Sheba is almost tailor made to accompany Caster Gil too, taking advantage of every single thing his kit can do. You all got a very good roll, so that's a big plus on the gameplay-side as well. I already have Da Vinci and Merlin to accompagny him =_=" |
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10 tickets later... Today was a good day. Da Vinci's kit is VERY selfish, has an AoE NP, like Gil, which isn't the best choice for bosses. She also doesn't take advantage of Gil's ability to gen stars, unlike Sheba. Merlin is universally good, though, yeah. Try this party and tell me what you think: Gil/Sheba/Tamamo. Sheba can deal more damage thanks to that 100% increase in crit damage, can actually support Gil more thanks to her Arts buff + Charisma and her kit synergizing much better with him. With this combo, along with Tamamo, you'll be able to get their buffs up faster, their damage higher and their NP gauges topped. |
astroprogsDec 6, 2017 9:35 AM
Nyarlathothep said: mira-pyon said: You'll be taking that back once you experience her cuteness. :I "Cuteness" is not an argument for me, I couldn't care less about that. I wanted the "Silver key" based on Lovecraft's story :'( Mkay. Too bad, I guess. >.> |
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| While I was going through the different Casters to compare their damage to Sheba, I realized that EoR4 singlehandedly introduced the first 4* Casters with ST NPs in the game. It's pretty crazy that the game launched almost two and a half years ago and Sheba's only competition on her level is Circe... which literally launched a week before. I know Circe is more geared towards support and all, but still. The very first ST 4* Casters. Anyawys, here's a quick comparison between all the gold Caster with ST NPs, just NP damage-wise, all @ NP1 and doesn't account for triangle mlt. or other effects like reduce/ignore defense. Lowest to highest: Circe: 9671 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 6 (NP Mlt.) x 1.5 (Buster NP) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 78,335 Sheba: 9629 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 9 (NP Mlt.) x 1 (Arts NP) x 1.178 (1st skill) x 1.2 (3rd skill) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 110,254 Illya (pre-interlude): 11857 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 6 (NP Mlt.) x 1.2 (NP effect) x 1.5 (Buster NP) x 1.5 (1st skill) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 172,857 Illya (post-interlude): 11857 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 8 (NP Mlt.) x 1.2 (NP effect) x 1.5 (Buster NP) x 1.5 (1st skill) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 230,500 Sanzo (pre-interlude): 12658 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 6 (NP Mlt.) x 1.5 (Buster NP) x 1.8 (1st skill) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 184,554 Sanzo (post-interlude): 12658 (1K Fou'd ATK) x 8 (NP Mlt.) x 1.5 (Buster NP) x 1.8 (1st skill) x 0.9 (Class Mlt.) = 246,071 |
astroprogsDec 6, 2017 11:32 AM
| used 60 sq and 1 tix... nothing... aside herc not interested into abigail but wanted sheba in my collection im too busy trying to find out why i sux at SAO MD |
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| 30 quartz and 10 tickets and got a Sheba. Was looking for Abi, but I've been needing an ST Caster anyways. |
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| Oh god, Abby is really tickling my paternal instincts. I had a James Moriarty moment when I heard her say "Father" even though that's probably not directed at the player. |
| I still don't get Sheba after 32 tickets. Oh well, I guess I'll be waiting for her until she comes out again in the future. I could get her with 206 quartzs I have, but I want to save my quartzs for Christmas 2017 Event's Lottery farming and New Years 2018 Campaign too when they come out. |
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Genkii said: Oh god, Abby is really tickling my paternal instincts. I had a James Moriarty moment when I heard her say "Father" even though that's probably not directed at the player. This is what happens when Abby is in your Room in your birthday date: https://twitter.com/rijityou_1206/status/938345248694059009 Z-Dragon said: I still don't get Sheba after 32 tickets. Oh well, I guess I'll be waiting for her until she comes out again in the future. I could get her with 206 quartzs I have, but I want to save my quartzs for Christmas 2017 Event's Lottery farming and New Years 2018 Campaign too when they come out. Yeah, you probably should save your quartz. Sheba is pretty good, but it's highly likely we'll get Eresh a new Servant in the NY gacha along with some of the great limited ones. |
astroprogs said: Genkii said: Oh god, Abby is really tickling my paternal instincts. I had a James Moriarty moment when I heard her say "Father" even though that's probably not directed at the player. This is what happens when Abby is in your Room in your birthday date: https://twitter.com/rijityou_1206/status/938345248694059009 Dear lord, that's a heart-seeking ability greater than even Gae Bolg. |
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| Considering Gae Bolg's track record, that doesn't say much :thinking: |
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| Abigail Williams My Room lines: Translated Servant Profile: Abigail Williams: |
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| So wait, the servant Abigail doesn't have the awesome NP from the boss fight? The support I tried have a different and less impressive NP. |
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So yeah I rolled for Abby,used 10 tickets that gave me nothing note worthy, and 1 10 roll.... RNG has seriously been on my side lately for these EoR4 gachas as I got both of the servants I wanted(Circe and Abby) with only using up a grand total of 60 quartz and a dozen or so tickets with 430+ quartz to spare. |
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KaiserNazrin said: So wait, the servant Abigail doesn't have the awesome NP from the boss fight? The support I tried have a different and less impressive NP. Her first ascension has a different NP while her 2nd and 3rd ascensions have the same NP from the boss fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLQ6uueDS4 |
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Z-Dragon said: KaiserNazrin said: So wait, the servant Abigail doesn't have the awesome NP from the boss fight? The support I tried have a different and less impressive NP. Her first ascension has a different NP while her 2nd and 3rd ascensions have the same NP from the boss fight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOLQ6uueDS4 The support I used was on her final ascension tho. |
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