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Nov 5, 2017 9:59 AM
#251
RE1031 said: Qoco said: So you think I'm wasting my time discussing RVS with someone who doesn't like it?RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:00 AM
#252
Mishukax said: I honestly couldn't tell. He sounded wary of Abu, kept pointing out things that I would interpret as a scum read/lean, but wasn't actually accusing him of being scum.RE1031 said: Tainted said: RE1031 said: Tainted said: Well, if he was scum in that game, isn't it natural that most of his arguments are going to be BS? That he's going to jump to conclusions because he's scum and he needs to make up stuff in order to seem townie? And wasn't one of the reasons he made that post was because he had a double vote ability and creating ties would out him? (And it did?)He comes up with the no lynch strategy right from the start, a townie shouldn't worry about the lynch this early right? Also the justification behind the idea itself is weak, this idea can serve no one but the mafia if the Freddy role isn't in play. Lynching is one of the most important weapons town has, getting rid of it by constantly tieing votes would make the mafia lose that sense of threat and danger, not to mention that the votes can be easily manipulated as some people said. One of the reason is because of this. I don't think that this is an enough reason to find someone suspicious. RE1031 said: Tainted said: Did you remember that Abu was scum in that game? Lol.Wait (I shouldn't be talking about this, it's an ongoing game isn't it?) Yeah he was the one who killed me. I'm just confused as for why you're judging him based on his scum game. If he's scum, his goal is to lynch town by framing them - jumping to conclusions is one of doing it. That said, if you're recognizing similar behavior in this game to his scum game, does that not make you wary of him? Well yeah I completely understand that and I was gonna used my impression of him from the last game as the basis but now that you mentioned it he might changed his approach if he really is the mafia. I feel like that's one question too many, RE. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:00 AM
#253
My alarm went off. I have to get ready for work. This is my vote for now. Vote: AbuHumaid |
Nov 5, 2017 10:02 AM
#254
Qoco said: Did you just ignore the rest of my post? lol.RE1031 said: Qoco said: RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. RE1031 said: Those were my intentions.Try to keep in mind there was hardly anyone active at the time. So while RVS isn't the most game-breaking topic, it was a place to start. Additionally, correlating RVS votes to lynch votes is kind of a strange thing to do, which is what Tainted did. I believe it deserved questioning. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:03 AM
#255
Phraze said: I'm having RE as town now, Abu not even mentioning RE's town traits make me think he's scum this time. Tainted is a neutral positive. Phraze for town. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:03 AM
#256
sorry for the delay xD last fluff, @ruu my first game as mafia here, my team was RE and Abu (i think this explains the rest xD) but yeah, my point 3 and 4 where just jokes, Ok, now to get the "real" things started; Never, EVER do a no lynch, i've played 4-5 games and it's always the same, and the conclusion it's always the same as well, no lynch is bad for town, lynch is the only tool town has to win the game, even if odds are against us, no lynch day 1 = 1 free kill to mafia, guys, we need to DO OUR BEST if we want to win, and not be lazy as to not vote... thanks for your attention |
Nov 5, 2017 10:05 AM
#257
Phraze said: on the side.. I think this setup is best to have a no-lynch for D1, since the first kill will be town and they get the ghostchat + abilities first. lol Phraze for town AGAIN. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:06 AM
#258
AlbertinoDias said: The problem with no lynch is it kills discussion. Thing is... Talking about how bad no lynch is is not that much better than advocating for it. So do you have anything to add about the players themselves?sorry for the delay xD last fluff, @ruu my first game as mafia here, my team was RE and Abu (i think this explains the rest xD) but yeah, my point 3 and 4 where just jokes, Ok, now to get the "real" things started; Never, EVER do a no lynch, i've played 4-5 games and it's always the same, and the conclusion it's always the same as well, no lynch is bad for town, lynch is the only tool town has to win the game, even if odds are against us, no lynch day 1 = 1 free kill to mafia, guys, we need to DO OUR BEST if we want to win, and not be lazy as to not vote... thanks for your attention |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:07 AM
#259
This is how you can be opportunistic xD (lol the coincidence ): Abu has a mafia lean, for this: Abuhumaid- #39/#44-said that there are people that can get the game going without RVS but then RE in #42 has a good post to try to get the game moving, and in #44 Abu questions Re's #44 for "jumping to conclusions"... even if RE does not have good reasons to push the train, it gets's the game moving, so i see some contradiction here; #73-side note, i did, and caught you :3 hehe; #85- huuuu the emotion appeal starts to appear :3 ("i'm moody so it's normal"); #86- wow, he's mad xD; #87- well, i think that in our past games you used some meta :3 but that apart, you say **Here we go again with meta reads /sighs** but you give self meta to explain something: **I don't usually attack everyone, that has been a new thing in me for only the past two games. And it's nothing AI** another contradiction; #92- well this is just opinion, but i do not think she's forcing her opinion... she's saying what she thinks about tainted reads #93- meta read?? yes, so what?? this post is BS, i played 2 games with you, you were mafia in both and you used the same playstyle in both lol; #95- outch (self meta again??); #102- ho look, the OMGUS vote xD; #105- **but you seem like you're trying to justify your suspicion of me.** but we can see this question in post #100: **Don't ignore my first question**... more contradiction, and to add more on top of that, one of the "reasons" to vote tainted wash ignoring his questions...; #149- this post has a lot of contradictions, **What is there to do this early on the game other than trying to get some debates going anyway?** but Re is doing that and he does not like it (wonder why), **And if you're looking for people who haven't done much or nothing at all then there is plenty, I'm one of the most active players currently on this game so this point is moot.**... *omgus go look into other people* this is what that is saying, **Again that wasn't enough for me to have the slightest lean oh him** but you still voted him because of that, **I'm nit picky but I don't like my reads to be half-assed like your town lean oh him for example which I refuted.** but your "scum read" is half-assed... why?; |
Nov 5, 2017 10:08 AM
#260
Phraze said: Ruu said: and I actually like this response ... are u trying to pocket me? XDPhraze said: on the side.. I think this setup is best to have a no-lynch for D1, since the first kill will be town and they get the ghostchat + abilities first. lol I actually like this idea. How is that pocketing? She's just agreeing with a general gameplan. edit: pronoun |
Nov 5, 2017 10:08 AM
#261
RE1031 said: AlbertinoDias said: The problem with no lynch is it kills discussion. Thing is... Talking about how bad no lynch is is not that much better than advocating for it. So do you have anything to add about the players themselves?sorry for the delay xD last fluff, @ruu my first game as mafia here, my team was RE and Abu (i think this explains the rest xD) but yeah, my point 3 and 4 where just jokes, Ok, now to get the "real" things started; Never, EVER do a no lynch, i've played 4-5 games and it's always the same, and the conclusion it's always the same as well, no lynch is bad for town, lynch is the only tool town has to win the game, even if odds are against us, no lynch day 1 = 1 free kill to mafia, guys, we need to DO OUR BEST if we want to win, and not be lazy as to not vote... thanks for your attention i'm slow at writing xD, sorry look up |
Nov 5, 2017 10:09 AM
#262
RE1031 said: I should really be more patient ^^'AlbertinoDias said: The problem with no lynch is it kills discussion. Thing is... Talking about how bad no lynch is is not that much better than advocating for it. So do you have anything to add about the players themselves?sorry for the delay xD last fluff, @ruu my first game as mafia here, my team was RE and Abu (i think this explains the rest xD) but yeah, my point 3 and 4 where just jokes, Ok, now to get the "real" things started; Never, EVER do a no lynch, i've played 4-5 games and it's always the same, and the conclusion it's always the same as well, no lynch is bad for town, lynch is the only tool town has to win the game, even if odds are against us, no lynch day 1 = 1 free kill to mafia, guys, we need to DO OUR BEST if we want to win, and not be lazy as to not vote... thanks for your attention |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:11 AM
#263
abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:14 AM
#264
Qoco said: By not placing a vote you are not placing pressure. Your chances of lynching something not random is a lot slimmer if you do not vote. Your actions do not match your words, Tainted. It's not like I'm not gonna vote I just want enough proofs to counter his reasons before I start pressuring them. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:18 AM
#265
Mishukax said: Admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing them. Why would town want to roll with flow if they have another opinion (and they should)? Not pressure anyone? Fear for their own safety over hunting for scum, when that's the only way to solve the game? There's only so much you can blame on being new.abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. His tone is amazingly townie. But his behavior is scummy. I'd feel kind of bad, but if Trash doesn't do anything else in this game, he's in the lynch pile for me. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:19 AM
#266
lastwhisper31 said: Ruu said: i feel like something being nai and also a good conversation opener cant really go hand and hand, like hes moving the game forward with purpose of completeing his win con, so its def not nai per say, like we cant figure out where he is yet. I like to think everything has a purpose lol.Fo said: vote: mishu He's never seen my scumgame; like even if I were to believe that mishu is a bad enough player to advocate policy lynching people for being hard to catch it still reads hella fake for that fact. My eye also twitched at "can't wait to see which way mafia will swing the votes" Biggest omgus ever lol why do you think he has to be scum based on that comment? Is nai to me because it's a good conversation starter and he got reactions from everyone. He might be scum but do you have more proof or reasons? To me is nai. Because it can come from town or scum. I'm more interested in the follow up post Mishu will make. That will be more enlightening than the first comment. And will make me lean scum or town on her. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:27 AM
#267
lol, i forgot, vote: Abuhumaid |
Nov 5, 2017 10:28 AM
#268
@AlbertinoDias I can't refute most of your points since I think they're valid, but I want to see more from Abu especially now that more players have become active. Is there a reason you're not voting for Abu? And do you have any thoughts on anyone else? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:30 AM
#269
RE1031 said: xD look up xD@AlbertinoDias I can't refute most of your points since I think they're valid, but I want to see more from Abu especially now that more players have become active. Is there a reason you're not voting for Abu? And do you have any thoughts on anyone else? |
Nov 5, 2017 10:32 AM
#270
Ughh I have so many things I want to say but I'm on the phone. I will make a huge post when I get home but for now I think I might change my vote from no lynch to an actual person. I got a lot of info I think. And my reads have change a lot after re reading the thread. I'm with family right now so I can't be online but as soon as I get home to my pc. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:32 AM
#271
AlbertinoDias said: .3.RE1031 said: xD look up xD@AlbertinoDias I can't refute most of your points since I think they're valid, but I want to see more from Abu especially now that more players have become active. Is there a reason you're not voting for Abu? And do you have any thoughts on anyone else? My second question still pertains. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:33 AM
#272
Nov 5, 2017 10:33 AM
#273
RE1031 said: Mishukax said: Admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing them. Why would town want to roll with flow if they have another opinion (and they should)? Not pressure anyone? Fear for their own safety over hunting for scum, when that's the only way to solve the game? There's only so much you can blame on being new.abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. His tone is amazingly townie. But his behavior is scummy. I'd feel kind of bad, but if Trash doesn't do anything else in this game, he's in the lynch pile for me. RE, sometimes, in a mafia game, people agree with other people. I'm not sure I want to no-lynch myself, but I'm not the least bit concerned that abhutrash is openly communicating his intention to possibly roll with the flow if things were to be headed towards a no-lynch. He did mention he would only do that if nothing of higher importance comes up, too. I think you're not wrong about "admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing it," but I also think there's a world of difference between subtly and openly going with the flow. And it's not a matter of blaming things on being new or whatever, I think abhu is doing just fine, and he was also a threatening player in MALoween: I've always advocated fear for one's own safety as a perfectly valid line of thinking and it can definitely coexist with scumhunting, which abhutrash has shown intent to do. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:34 AM
#274
i think this time around Ruu si town :O but will work on that a bit more :) |
Nov 5, 2017 10:34 AM
#275
Nov 5, 2017 10:35 AM
#276
RE1031 said: Mishukax said: Admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing them. Why would town want to roll with flow if they have another opinion (and they should)? Not pressure anyone? Fear for their own safety over hunting for scum, when that's the only way to solve the game? There's only so much you can blame on being new.abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. His tone is amazingly townie. But his behavior is scummy. I'd feel kind of bad, but if Trash doesn't do anything else in this game, he's in the lynch pile for me. I agree with RE on this one. Going with the flow is pretty scummy for me. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:36 AM
#277
Mishukax said: Perhaps I'm just impatient, but I think there's a world of difference between intent to do and actually doing.RE1031 said: Mishukax said: abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. His tone is amazingly townie. But his behavior is scummy. I'd feel kind of bad, but if Trash doesn't do anything else in this game, he's in the lynch pile for me. RE, sometimes, in a mafia game, people agree with other people. I'm not sure I want to no-lynch myself, but I'm not the least bit concerned that abhutrash is openly communicating his intention to possibly roll with the flow if things were to be headed towards a no-lynch. He did mention he would only do that if nothing of higher importance comes up, too. I think you're not wrong about "admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing it," but I also think there's a world of difference between subtly and openly going with the flow. And it's not a matter of blaming things on being new or whatever, I think abhu is doing just fine, and he was also a threatening player in MALoween: I've always advocated fear for one's own safety as a perfectly valid line of thinking and it can definitely coexist with scumhunting, which abhutrash has shown intent to do. |
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Nov 5, 2017 10:39 AM
#278
Acknowledged ;o |
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Nov 5, 2017 10:41 AM
#279
So anyone has questions to me? I can't afford to do a full catch up post now |
Nov 5, 2017 10:41 AM
#280
lastwhisper31 said: I mean at the time of this post, how many hadnt posted yet? its safe to assume at least one person out of their is scum, plus theres some kind of tpr laying around, maybe?? Last time I saw ???, it existed, because there are no lies in role pms, so I would think there are no lies in the op. TPR wincon is usually put in the thread even when there aren't. It's not considered bastard even with a hidden setup. More like a hosting convention. You want your players guessing whether TPR is present or not. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:43 AM
#281
Mishukax said: RE1031 said: Mishukax said: abhutrash said: If the vast majority want no lynch, I'll roll with it, I guess. Don't really care about anything else posted by Trash so far, but this line is kind of town. You don't just admit to "rolling with the flow of things" when you're scum. His tone is amazingly townie. But his behavior is scummy. I'd feel kind of bad, but if Trash doesn't do anything else in this game, he's in the lynch pile for me. RE, sometimes, in a mafia game, people agree with other people. I'm not sure I want to no-lynch myself, but I'm not the least bit concerned that abhutrash is openly communicating his intention to possibly roll with the flow if things were to be headed towards a no-lynch. He did mention he would only do that if nothing of higher importance comes up, too. I think you're not wrong about "admitting it doesn't change the fact you're still doing it," but I also think there's a world of difference between subtly and openly going with the flow. And it's not a matter of blaming things on being new or whatever, I think abhu is doing just fine, and he was also a threatening player in MALoween: I've always advocated fear for one's own safety as a perfectly valid line of thinking and it can definitely coexist with scumhunting, which abhutrash has shown intent to do. Makes sense but if he doesn't share his thoughts or show suspicions later on then I'll be wary of him. |
Nov 5, 2017 10:50 AM
#282
@AlbertinoDias Those aren't even contradictions but alright let's assume they are, are contradictions alignment indicative? If so then specify what type of contradictions really makes you that sure of someone's alignment. That ISO post of yours is honestly nothing but nitpicking it's like you're desperate to have something on me. Where exactly did I use AtE? And I used meta because it was used on me, how am I supposed to respond against a meta read? @Qoco Can you explain your vote? |
Nov 5, 2017 10:53 AM
#283
I think I'll move my vote for now to ping the only inactive Vote: @Karote Thoughts on what happened so far? |
Nov 5, 2017 10:55 AM
#284
I'll be back in an hour or so to respond to quotes and mentions, later |
Nov 5, 2017 10:57 AM
#285
RE1031 said: Mishukax said: Why Fo? And why so early in the game (day 1)? Did you not consider the possibility that if he's town, he might be killed by mafia?Oh hey. So I'm not updated at all on what's going on but my plan for day 1 is to lynch Fo. If he's mafia he's the player I'm least confident in catching. If he's town that's sad but that makes him not mafia and the game is more doable. Vote lynch: Fo I've always wanted to try such a simple-minded day 1. Go wild. Also lol @ these very distributed votes. Can't wait to see which way mafia will swing them. There's quite a lot of time left to this phase, so I'll go do phase change in my game, get some sleep, and come back fresh tomorrow and read from the start. And possibly come back to some peeps outraged at my current plan. Or Abu pinging me 30 times. And yeah, I'll switch my vote around if my gameread gives me something that screams for it. I'm pretty sure no one is gonna agree with my current plan anyway, but it's all about the water-testing. Nice being in the same ranks as you, Tainted and abhutrash. I also think this is my first with Albertino since I had him last Halloween. I'm excited! Are you saying that mafia will be the only ones swinging the votes around? If so, that seems like one way of getting people to not change their votes. And if not, how will you tell who of the people willing to start trains are mafia? I don't think I need to warn you that lack of real time interactions will be suspicious as hell on your part... Why Fo, you say? Already answered that. Why so early in the game? Because it has to be this early otherwise there's little to no point. Mmh, I should have considered the possibility of mafia killing him, but I don't want to deal with this WIFOM shalalamlam right now. I want to make a precise and blunt action to get precise and blunt results. "Are you saying that mafia will be the only ones swinging the votes around?" Eh, probably not, actually. I'm wrong about that. "If so, that seems like one way of getting people to not change their votes." Are people that easily manipulated? "And if not, how will you tell who of the people willing to start trains are mafia?" I'll tell with the flip and reactions of people to various trains, just like the good old way. "I don't think I need to warn you that lack of real time interactions will be suspicious as hell on your part..." No you don't. Do I have a history of not doing real-time interactions? I guess I do, lol. In any case my plan against Fo wasn't implying I would just vote Fo and then gtfo for the day. |
Nov 5, 2017 11:03 AM
#286
@mishukax why do you like the posts from phraze? Also whats your connection to Fo? @Albertinodias c ant help but remember the last time that you tunneled onto Abu he was mafia, maybe again lol? @Ruu I do think you can be very opportunustic with your votes, it has lead me to believe you were scum in many of our games together lol, and as of right now you still in the neutral range. @Tainted if you were to place your vote, where would you place it? As of right now? @Karote Where are you? @abuhumaid Ok, again, not every attack on you has to be answered with, "baseless" or "your wrong." lol |
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Nov 5, 2017 11:06 AM
#287
Ruu said: Fo said: vote: mishu He's never seen my scumgame; like even if I were to believe that mishu is a bad enough player to advocate policy lynching people for being hard to catch it still reads hella fake for that fact. My eye also twitched at "can't wait to see which way mafia will swing the votes" Biggest omgus ever lol why do you think he has to be scum based on that comment? Is nai to me because it's a good conversation starter and he got reactions from everyone. He might be scum but do you have more proof or reasons? So you assume I was doing it to get reactions? Do you already know I'm town? |
Nov 5, 2017 11:08 AM
#288
RE1031 said: So... Am I mafia? :3 Why are you asking me this. |
Nov 5, 2017 11:11 AM
#289
AbuHumaid said: @AlbertinoDias Those aren't even contradictions but alright let's assume they are, are contradictions alignment indicative? If so then specify what type of contradictions really makes you that sure of someone's alignment. That ISO post of yours is honestly nothing but nitpicking it's like you're desperate to have something on me. Where exactly did I use AtE? And I used meta because it was used on me, how am I supposed to respond against a meta read? @Qoco Can you explain your vote? alright, so, some are, some are not, in this case, i believe they are because you said people can move the game forward without rvs, but when RE tried to do that, you started to complain, and because in my ISO you can see me talking about your post #105, you ask for things, tainted gave you what you wanted, and you say what tainted said is just ** you're trying to justify your suspicion of me.** , he even said he did not want to jump to conclusions, you "forced" him to say it, and then complain about it, i see that as a way to swing the game state because that's manipulation at is finest; i'm not desperate, i had to start on someone, you were active in the beginning of the game... i chose you...; you used AtE when you said you were/are moody, that's an excuse for people to get past something, it would be like i said that i was attacking everyone because i'm mad... that's AtE, and you used it... with meta read, you are right, you need to use meta read.... but i also think that self-meta can be bad, and in the situation you were, that self-meta was a way to misdirect him :) I do not like meta/self-meta you know that, but when used in the wrong places, it can be a weapon ^^ |
Nov 5, 2017 11:14 AM
#290
lastwhisper31 said: @mishukax why do you like the posts from phraze? Also whats your connection to Fo? @Albertinodias c ant help but remember the last time that you tunneled onto Abu he was mafia, maybe again lol? @Ruu I do think you can be very opportunustic with your votes, it has lead me to believe you were scum in many of our games together lol, and as of right now you still in the neutral range. @Tainted if you were to place your vote, where would you place it? As of right now? @Karote Where are you? @abuhumaid Ok, again, not every attack on you has to be answered with, "baseless" or "your wrong." lol who knows... but time will tell^^ i think i can do my best in this game as town, and i will do it ^^ |
Nov 5, 2017 11:34 AM
#291
AlbertinoDias said: This is how you can be opportunistic xD (lol the coincidence ): Abu has a mafia lean, for this: Are you really worried that you're being opportunistic? |
Nov 5, 2017 11:38 AM
#292
RE1031 said: @AlbertinoDias I can't refute most of your points since I think they're valid, but I want to see more from Abu especially now that more players have become active. I would look at Albertino's points on Abu but there are no links towards the posts he's talking about so I'll pass. Lol sorry :( I'm not really that concerned about either players anyway, for now. |
Nov 5, 2017 11:41 AM
#293
Mishukax said: AlbertinoDias said: This is how you can be opportunistic xD (lol the coincidence ): Abu has a mafia lean, for this: Are you really worried that you're being opportunistic? nop xD i was joking with that because of Abu/RE interaction about tainted xD it was more like, yeah, i know you can think what i'm doing is opportunistic, but so what??; Mishukax said: RE1031 said: @AlbertinoDias I can't refute most of your points since I think they're valid, but I want to see more from Abu especially now that more players have become active. I would look at Albertino's points on Abu but there are no links towards the posts he's talking about so I'll pass. Lol sorry :( I'm not really that concerned about either players anyway, for now. i do not know how to quote posts, sorry :/ |
Nov 5, 2017 11:50 AM
#294
RE1031 said: Qoco said: Did you just ignore the rest of my post? lol.RE1031 said: Qoco said: So you think I'm wasting my time discussing RVS with someone who doesn't like it?RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. RE1031 said: Those were my intentions.Try to keep in mind there was hardly anyone active at the time. So while RVS isn't the most game-breaking topic, it was a place to start. Additionally, correlating RVS votes to lynch votes is kind of a strange thing to do, which is what Tainted did. I believe it deserved questioning. Still not the answer. You are explaining what you did, and it morese looks like an excuse with how you phrased it. That is what you did, not why. |
Nov 5, 2017 11:53 AM
#295
AbuHumaid said: @AlbertinoDias Those aren't even contradictions but alright let's assume they are, are contradictions alignment indicative? If so then specify what type of contradictions really makes you that sure of someone's alignment. That ISO post of yours is honestly nothing but nitpicking it's like you're desperate to have something on me. Where exactly did I use AtE? And I used meta because it was used on me, how am I supposed to respond against a meta read? @Qoco Can you explain your vote? Place-holder for now, with a potential keep if nothing better rises. |
Nov 5, 2017 11:59 AM
#296
Qoco said: Okay, we're done. I'm not wasting my time justifying why I decided to interrogate the only other active people at the time to someone who hasn't even explained their own vote.RE1031 said: Qoco said: RE1031 said: Qoco said: So you think I'm wasting my time discussing RVS with someone who doesn't like it?RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. RE1031 said: Try to keep in mind there was hardly anyone active at the time. So while RVS isn't the most game-breaking topic, it was a place to start. Additionally, correlating RVS votes to lynch votes is kind of a strange thing to do, which is what Tainted did. I believe it deserved questioning. Still not the answer. You are explaining what you did, and it morese looks like an excuse with how you phrased it. That is what you did, not why. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 12:02 PM
#297
i don't have much for now, will look into RE later, but for Ruu: #89/#130- i think she wants to express herself (and in 130 i think she confirms it) and i think this can be town and because it feels like she just wants to show her opinions, so we can all discuss with her, it also shows initiative, which i like; #223- ask questions, but also give answers for those questions, i don't think mafia would do this because it shows interest in discussion, something mafia can fake, true but something that has to be planed, and i don't think this is the case; i want to see her big post, but as for now, no AtE :3 gj Ruu. i know this is almost nothing, but i'll have more evidence as the game goes on :) (you can call this just a feeling for now) |
Nov 5, 2017 12:03 PM
#298
RE1031 said: Qoco said: Okay, we're done. I'm not wasting my time justifying why I decided to interrogate the only other active people at the time to someone who hasn't even explained their own vote.RE1031 said: Qoco said: Did you just ignore the rest of my post? lol.RE1031 said: Qoco said: So you think I'm wasting my time discussing RVS with someone who doesn't like it?RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. RE1031 said: Those were my intentions.Try to keep in mind there was hardly anyone active at the time. So while RVS isn't the most game-breaking topic, it was a place to start. Additionally, correlating RVS votes to lynch votes is kind of a strange thing to do, which is what Tainted did. I believe it deserved questioning. Still not the answer. You are explaining what you did, and it morese looks like an excuse with how you phrased it. That is what you did, not why. RE, first read, then comment xD |
Nov 5, 2017 12:04 PM
#299
Because I'm swinging the votes against your favor. And I didn't really have anything else to ask I hadn't already, since at the time, you hadn't posted anything relevant to the game. Mishukax said: Forgive me for being paranoid, then. You explained why you're voting Fo, but not necessarily what makes Fo dangerous (to the rest of us, since I haven't played with Fo yet). I don't think it's too relevant, but if you can explain your motives, then maybe I'd be more sympathetic towards them.In any case my plan against Fo wasn't implying I would just vote Fo and then gtfo for the day. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Nov 5, 2017 12:05 PM
#300
AlbertinoDias said: He explained it's a placeholder vote, not why Abu in particular. The second part is very important.RE1031 said: Qoco said: RE1031 said: Qoco said: Did you just ignore the rest of my post? lol.RE1031 said: Qoco said: So you think I'm wasting my time discussing RVS with someone who doesn't like it?RE1031 said: RE1031 said: Or at least leave a RVS vote on someone... Since we're allowed to change votes, there usually isn't much harm to it, and unless you plan on doing nothing for the rest of the phase, the first vote you place doesn't guarantee that person being lynched. So voting randomly doesn't mean lynching randomly, basically.Fo said: Because I don't completely understand Tainted's reasoning for not wanting to vote randomly.RE1031 said: What made you want to ask this question?So you too are against RVS? Or are you afraid we may end up lynching a town inactive? This is what is in my mind in regards to the topic. It is not what you are doing. But rather, why you are doing it. The intentions behind your actions. RE1031 said: Those were my intentions.Try to keep in mind there was hardly anyone active at the time. So while RVS isn't the most game-breaking topic, it was a place to start. Additionally, correlating RVS votes to lynch votes is kind of a strange thing to do, which is what Tainted did. I believe it deserved questioning. Still not the answer. You are explaining what you did, and it morese looks like an excuse with how you phrased it. That is what you did, not why. RE, first read, then comment xD |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
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