| Actually I'm open to going back to lynching in {Lamby, Ironace} if today isn't our last chance. Abu would actually be a town lean in a vaccum based off of tone but I don't know if I can trust that to the point where I believe in him against all odds, because he has a neat pile of mechanics pointing at him. I think I'm just going to park my vote there while I try to find something on the others. |
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| I'm going to take a nap, but I need to revisit TheConq's posts afterwards. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| @RE1031 @AlbertinoDias You two are what's left of my strong townreads. I'm not sure if you even fully trust me but I think from this point we can only pull off a comeback if we work together. |
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Togs said: @RE1031 @AlbertinoDias You two are what's left of my strong townreads. I'm not sure if you even fully trust me but I think from this point we can only pull off a comeback if we work together. i do not trust you indeed xD but if it is about catching scum i'm here to help everyone because it's the right thing to do :) but now with things like this i would like to have fluffy guy here with us... someone that we know is Conf!town, having a read from someone we know that has a town mid set would help, but if you want me to be by your side, explain what i said in my last post :) i would appreciate it ^^ |
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| i'm also going out a bit to claim my gym back so Valor can get his glory back in my town!!!, so, don't expect of me too much for a bit :) |
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AlbertinoDias said: Why I changed my vote from Abu to Reiynii ? Because Logic counterclaimed Reiynii lol. That's kind of obvious..Togs said: @RE1031 @AlbertinoDias You two are what's left of my strong townreads. I'm not sure if you even fully trust me but I think from this point we can only pull off a comeback if we work together. i do not trust you indeed xD but if it is about catching scum i'm here to help everyone because it's the right thing to do :) but now with things like this i would like to have fluffy guy here with us... someone that we know is Conf!town, having a read from someone we know that has a town mid set would help, but if you want me to be by your side, explain what i said in my last post :) i would appreciate it ^^ |
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| Here’s my problem with the Abu wagon: AbuHumaid said: logic340 said: I'm a vanilla townieare you a Miller you should probably just claim right now. AbuHumaid said: TheConquerer said: how does reiynii's flip mean I'm not town? Urgh what a mess this is, I have no idea who to believe but lynching reiynii seems to be the only thing left, at least if they're town we know Abu isn't. It's not perfect but it's all happening to fast and I had dinner yay. Also about my redirector suggestion, It might be obvious now but I don't really read the setup for these games unless it's drastically different. AbuHumaid said: Abu never brings up the possibility of miller on himself, he claims his role as VT easily, and he’s slow to understand that he was even copped. I feel like scum would have a better grasp of the situation, since scum tend to be more coordinated and have more mechanical knowledge. I would expect someone who is copped as scum say “I’ve got to be a miller then” instead of kind of getting caught up in all the confusion.logic said that he roleblocked him @RE1031 thoughts on Abu’s EoD2 posts ? |
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 Vote Count 3.1  AbuHumaid (4): Togs, AlbertinoDias, AbuHumaid, TheConquerer Players not voting: ironace, RE1031, yurkin, Floofs, Labs Mod Notes: ~ |
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Togs said: AlbertinoDias said: Why I changed my vote from Abu to Reiynii ? Because Logic counterclaimed Reiynii lol. That's kind of obvious..i do not trust you indeed xD but if it is about catching scum i'm here to help everyone because it's the right thing to do :) but now with things like this i would like to have fluffy guy here with us... someone that we know is Conf!town, having a read from someone we know that has a town mid set would help, but if you want me to be by your side, explain what i said in my last post :) i would appreciate it ^^ haha yes obvious haha ofc i totally got that (looks away) and there has to be a vig/SK, someone that thought Amai to be scum... we can start by looking for interactions of amai with the people that were on that train... @Floofs now that Logic is dead... what are you going to do?? @TheConquerer did you understand what i was trying to say?? (btw... what is miler?? xD) @labs ... what was that blank vote?? |
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Togs said: Here’s my problem with the Abu wagon: AbuHumaid said: I'm a vanilla townie AbuHumaid said: how does reiynii's flip mean I'm not town? AbuHumaid said: Abu never brings up the possibility of miller on himself, he claims his role as VT easily, and he’s slow to understand that he was even copped. I feel like scum would have a better grasp of the situation, since scum tend to be more coordinated and have more mechanical knowledge. I would expect someone who is copped as scum say “I’ve got to be a miller then” instead of kind of getting caught up in all the confusion.logic said that he roleblocked him @RE1031 thoughts on Abu’s EoD2 posts ? you have a good point there... but what's the possibility of having 2 milers?? (I still need someone to tell me what a miller is but... ok xD) and the thing is, his reaction was... how do i say?.... too natural?? i mean, no panic at all?? normally, town panic a little no??, and if you look in my previous posts the dots just start to connect. |
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AlbertinoDias said: Togs said: Why I changed my vote from Abu to Reiynii ? Because Logic counterclaimed Reiynii lol. That's kind of obvious.. haha yes obvious haha ofc i totally got that (looks away) and there has to be a vig/SK, someone that thought Amai to be scum... we can start by looking for interactions of amai with the people that were on that train... @Floofs now that Logic is dead... what are you going to do?? @TheConquerer did you understand what i was trying to say?? (btw... what is miler?? xD) @labs ... what was that blank vote?? A miller is a player who is innocent but comes up guilty when a cop investigates. In this case the miller will not know he is one and think he is a vanilla town player. Since Reiyiin investigated Abu and found they were guilty they saw them as mafia. We assumed Abu was the miller but Amai seems to be the miller. There could be more than one but I don't think so as it would be so unfair to town. |
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TheConquerer said: AlbertinoDias said: haha yes obvious haha ofc i totally got that (looks away) and there has to be a vig/SK, someone that thought Amai to be scum... we can start by looking for interactions of amai with the people that were on that train... @Floofs now that Logic is dead... what are you going to do?? @TheConquerer did you understand what i was trying to say?? (btw... what is miler?? xD) @labs ... what was that blank vote?? A miller is a player who is innocent but comes up guilty when a cop investigates. In this case the miller will not know he is one and think he is a vanilla town player. Since Reiyiin investigated Abu and found they were guilty they saw them as mafia. We assumed Abu was the miller but Amai seems to be the miller. There could be more than one but I don't think so as it would be so unfair to town. ok, now i understand the situation better, i think he's mafia, but if what you say is true then, for Abu to also be a miller then, or there are just 2 mafias or almost every town has a role (the more power town has, the more power mafia has) what do you think of the post togs made about his suspicions of Abu EoD2?? |
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Togs said: Here’s my problem with the Abu wagon: AbuHumaid said: I'm a vanilla townie AbuHumaid said: how does reiynii's flip mean I'm not town? AbuHumaid said: Abu never brings up the possibility of miller on himself, he claims his role as VT easily, and he’s slow to understand that he was even copped. I feel like scum would have a better grasp of the situation, since scum tend to be more coordinated and have more mechanical knowledge. I would expect someone who is copped as scum say “I’ve got to be a miller then” instead of kind of getting caught up in all the confusion.logic said that he roleblocked him @RE1031 thoughts on Abu’s EoD2 posts ? I hate to say it but they come off as townie. Which really sucks because mere probability would have it that more than 1 miller is so unlikely, as is the mafia framer (having to exist in the first place) targeting the same person as the cop in the same night. And if Abu somehow survives past today and tonight, he's either going to be mafia or mislynch bait, and the longer mislynch bait lives, the less likely scum will be lynched. |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| @AbuHumaid Self voting never helps. Never ever. If you are town, you need to defend yourself. Most likely with a strong offensive case. Who are your suspects? I recall me being in there, are you going to pursue that route? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
Which post is this? Could you link me? |
| I've been here way too long... |
This one: Togs said: Here’s my problem with the Abu wagon: AbuHumaid said: I'm a vanilla townie AbuHumaid said: how does reiynii's flip mean I'm not town? AbuHumaid said: Abu never brings up the possibility of miller on himself, he claims his role as VT easily, and he’s slow to understand that he was even copped. I feel like scum would have a better grasp of the situation, since scum tend to be more coordinated and have more mechanical knowledge. I would expect someone who is copped as scum say “I’ve got to be a miller then” instead of kind of getting caught up in all the confusion.logic said that he roleblocked him @RE1031 thoughts on Abu’s EoD2 posts ? :) |
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| But in that post Togs isn't suspecting Abu, he actually thinks he might be town. Personally I think Abu could be feigning the knowledge to subtlety imply he is the unaware miller but since the unaware miller is dead Abu realizes he has lost. I think abu is sk rather than mafia though but thats just a guess. |
| I've been here way too long... |
TheConquerer said: But in that post Togs isn't suspecting Abu, he actually thinks he might be town. Personally I think Abu could be feigning the knowledge to subtlety imply he is the unaware Miller but since the unaware miller is dead Abu realizes he has lost. I think Abu is sk rather than mafia though but thats just a guess. I'm going to sleep but, ik he's not suspecting, when i said suspicions on Abu, i was referring of his suspicions on Abu not being mafia xD well, we also need to wait for the rest of the player to see what they think, so we can move on to the next "target" and see if he's mafia or not |
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Labs said: Not a hell of a lot from the looks of things. Wanna provide context or simply elaborate on that question? If you mean me personally, I was actually wrong about Rei-chan of all people and right now I'm supposedly lurking by choice and I'm just popping in to submit my night action. Wanted your opinion of what happened at the end of day |
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logic340 said: @TheConquerer If the phase started right now who would you vote for and why? @Floofs are you still petitioning for my lynch today? @AbuHumaid I need to look closer at your posts but are you implementing what you have learned form the logic school of mafia? @RE1031 I am really not comfortable with you, can you remember the last time that was in a game? I cannot we usually make a good little team. Even when I figured you out in TMA it took 3 days. Not sure why I feel this way. @Togs thoughts on yurkin her? @Amai-yume you have a fresh set of eyes and an unbiased view. Your thoughts on Labs? @AlbertinoDias I am really liking what I am seeing from you here. What are your thoughts on the reiynii train. @yurkin thoughts on ironace? @ironace I hope you will be able to post more content today. @Labs do you scum read Togs? Unfortunately, you're dead so I can't :( |
AlbertinoDias said: i'm also going out a bit to claim my gym back so Valor can get his glory back in my town!!!, so, don't expect of me too much for a bit :) Team Valor??? must be scum |
| I wanted to strengthen my reads on TheConq and Labs today but no energy. Before I hit the hay, anyone know how to do a VCA? |
...better to be hated for what you are than loved for something you are not. |
| So I'm writing currently from uni and rn I don't even know who died yet. I'm justrying rating this to say that I will post after 10 ish hours |
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| Vote Count 3.2 AbuHumaid (3): Togs, AlbertinoDias, TheConquerer RE1031 (1): AbuHumaid Players not voting: ironace, RE1031, yurkin, Floofs, Labs Mod Notes: ~ |
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AbuHumaid said: You know what? Fuck it Vote: AbuHumaid Let's hope this lynch helps my townie comrades Best be joking, son. |
RE1031 said: I don't know what's going on. Wow. And I was thinking logic was scum with Abu. This is bad. Togs is right, but that doesn't mean the game solving ends with Abu's lynch. Hmmmm, given his approach to D2 with how much he was spilling.... you actually doubted logic? But yeah.... deffo need to sort more out than just Abu during this phase. |
Togs said: Actually I'm open to going back to lynching in {Lamby, Ironace} if today isn't our last chance. Abu would actually be a town lean in a vaccum based off of tone but I don't know if I can trust that to the point where I believe in him against all odds, because he has a neat pile of mechanics pointing at him. I think I'm just going to park my vote there while I try to find something on the others. Actually a dece post given the current situation. |
AlbertinoDias said: Togs said: Why I changed my vote from Abu to Reiynii ? Because Logic counterclaimed Reiynii lol. That's kind of obvious.. haha yes obvious haha ofc i totally got that (looks away) and there has to be a vig/SK, someone that thought Amai to be scum... we can start by looking for interactions of amai with the people that were on that train... @Floofs now that Logic is dead... what are you going to do?? @TheConquerer did you understand what i was trying to say?? (btw... what is miler?? xD) @labs ... what was that blank vote?? Which in particular, most seem to be at a glance. |
Floofs said: Labs said: Not a hell of a lot from the looks of things. Wanna provide context or simply elaborate on that question? If you mean me personally, I was actually wrong about Rei-chan of all people and right now I'm supposedly lurking by choice and I'm just popping in to submit my night action. Wanted your opinion of what happened at the end of day Did you read the rest once I popped in for a bit last night? That covered most of the situation and surrounding thoughts, so I'd like to believe you got that. Also hmmmm, approach to current numbers and Abu more specifically? Though we'll need to think beyond said point alone. |
RE1031 said: I wanted to strengthen my reads on TheConq and Labs today but no energy. Before I hit the hay, anyone know how to do a VCA? Never been one to rely on VCA as a base sadly. Might wanna look a little more into the values themselves and well, capitalizing appropriately. |
AbuHumaid said: Isn't it weird how Amai died right after she said we should look into TheConq more? (I just woke up) quote that please |
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AbuHumaid said: Since I'm going to die anyway how about we work together to catch a scum? so that you guys won't be left in confusion after my town flip. It's also better to not slack off, inactivity helps scum only AbuHumaid said: I really think RE is scum, I know her she's way more active than this as town, she was town reading reiynii regardless of his scummy actions, as if she was starving for town credit. Vote: RE1031 AbuHumaid said: @Floofs not to be rude but can you please stop slacking off and actually come here and lead town like how an IC usually does? Yeeahhh ouch, even before seeing this shit.... I was kind of going against my own typical comfort zone, mechanics and that end of interactions and still holding on to the feeling that you were town regardless of everything that's come your way thus far. Feeling better yet, though I'm not sure it will be enough at this rate the effort however is appreciated. Given the numbers and most recent VC. Who, if any of them are simply capitalizing on the situation? or are you sticking to the fact they're doing the opposite right now.... more specifically RE? |
AbuHumaid said: Isn't it weird how Amai died right after she said we should look into TheConq more? Is it weird that grrr died after logic said they would kill them? No, because mafia are awful at framing people, or should I say, you are? |
| I've been here way too long... |
AbuHumaid said: @Labs what do you think of TheConq, voting me and dipping out like that is mad scummy don't you think? He seemed like he was taking an easy path If I die toDay we'll just be a step closer to lose this game Seems to be the case and honestly I don't really recall liking much of anything coming out of them throughout the entirety of this game. Though as I mentioned before I've never really felt like I could town read them in any game to date, even if it does seem reminiscent of the game where they mostly shrugged shit off, shamed and just took anything they could get with relative ease. |
AbuHumaid said: I really think RE is scum, I know her she's way more active than this as town, she was town reading reiynii regardless of his scummy actions, as if she was starving for town credit. Vote: RE1031 How sold are you on this read? I don't recall if I've actually played against scum RE. But I do kind of get this point you're addressing.... in past games I've felt either impressed by them as town or usually kind of fear them and had a lot of trouble working around them as scum. This however does seem to be lacking for the most part, but I'm not sure I want to bet on the fact that it might just be the difference in presence due to being less active for out of game reasons. |
AbuHumaid said: Labs said: RE's quick vote on me was so scummy at EoD 2 she didn't even try to understand the situation, though IDK about Albert he's a newbie so I guess he was just rushingYeeahhh ouch, even before seeing this shit.... I was kind of going against my own typical comfort zone, mechanics and that end of interactions and still holding on to the feeling that you were town regardless of everything that's come your way thus far. Feeling better yet, though I'm not sure it will be enough at this rate the effort however is appreciated. Given the numbers and most recent VC. Who, if any of them are simply capitalizing on the situation? or are you sticking to the fact they're doing the opposite right now.... more specifically RE? Mmmmmm I guess, they are one of the players otherwise making the most out of what we get though. Also I'm firmly set on new town or at-least new to MS for Albert, one of the slots I'm most comfortable with. |
Labs said: AbuHumaid said: RE's quick vote on me was so scummy at EoD 2 she didn't even try to understand the situation, though IDK about Albert he's a newbie so I guess he was just rushing Mmmmmm I guess, they are one of the players otherwise making the most out of what we get though. Also I'm firmly set on new town or at-least new to MS for Albert, one of the slots I'm most comfortable with. Leaving togs and Conq on your ass that fast and Conq deff has the worse approach to it and the game as a whole. |
AbuHumaid said: Labs said: Don't you remember her from the Morning after game? she posted some votes and dipped out for the rest of the phase, while as town she's way more emotional, stubborn and analyzing. Can you see that in her now?How sold are you on this read? I don't recall if I've actually played against scum RE. But I do kind of get this point you're addressing.... in past games I've felt either impressed by them as town or usually kind of fear them and had a lot of trouble working around them as scum. This however does seem to be lacking for the most part, but I'm not sure I want to bet on the fact that it might just be the difference in presence due to being less active for out of game reasons. Oh lol.... I guess there was an easy enough example to look back on, probably my bad habit of not really bothering with the thread much at all after dying etc. That and the rest of the scum, TPR included were fairly easy that game. Not sure if I'll dig throughout that tonight... already 11, but hmmmmm I guess you're not pulling this out of nowhere. Would you bet on them as scum over Conq at this point, koz that's my more likely lean at this stage. |
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