Kill la Kill
| I was checking the ecchi genre and noticed that High School DxD was bumped to the fourth most popular ecchi and replaced by Kill la Kill, which formerly was not rated as ecchi at all. I was a little confused because if I remember correctly, Kill la Kill's main purpose was the theme of clothing and nudity (don't get me wrong, I haven't seen this in a year). That saying, I can understand why this is considered ecchi, because even though it only has a PG-13 rating, nudity is still a strong factor, although its purpose in this series might not be only for "fanservice." Discuss |
| HOLY SHIT IT ACTUALLY HAPPENED, THEY FINALLY DID IT I CAN DIE HAPPY PRAISE BE GOD PRAISE BE THE LORD PRAISE BE ALL I LOVE EVERYBODY, LIFE IS WONDERFUL ----- The greatest issue was, I felt like, that there were too many shows tagged ecchi and had about as much ecchi content in their entirety as KLK had in an episode or two alone, let alone stuff where the ecchi tag actually makes sense to be applied still having less sexualized imagery on the whole than KLK does. For some reason, KLK was seemingly outright absolved of having this tag for reasons I can't comprehend. The most general argument made, but it's difficult to tell with arguments and interpretations with this particular series and how incredibly widely they can vary, - can be summed up as "the ecchi is different so therefore it is not ecchi." This is literally like saying "the mecha in this anime is different so therefore it's not a mecha." Just because something's different than the norm - and not trying to open the debate on however it's different, I'll just cede that mindset since that's what many people seem to believe - doesn't mean it isn't a part of that product still. It does not mean it does not exist. And ecchi, or rather just series with a lot of sexualized imagery, is not an exception. A sane person wouldn't say that Nanoha or Madoka aren't Mahou Shoujo just because there's been a lot of arguments made in favor of them being different in their approach to the concept of a mahou shoujo than what is the norm. Point being, to make this not ridiculous, the bar would need to be set at a level where either KLK was not an ecchi or the shows before it were not an ecchi. The issue with doing that is that it'd just be setting the bar to a position to where KLK couldn't be called an ecchi, but prior to that it was kind of glaringly inconsistent to see stuff like Nazo no Kanojo X and what have you tagged as ecchi when KLK had infinite times the amount of sexualization than it had. When there are series tagged ecchi that about as much in their entirity as KLK has in what I could pull from just a few shots:    And they're being tagged ecchi and KLK isn't, then something's kind of fucked with the treshhold being set. Either set it to where those series aren't being tagged ecchi and just completely rig the system to where KLK is going to be treated as a special snowflake just because some fans might not like having their series associated with the tag, or add it for the sake of maintaining a consistent standard. I think that people in the group saying that it's not an ecchi should just sort of let their balls drop and acknowledge that "yeah, it's clearly an ecchi by MAL's standards, but I didn't like it for the same stuff that ecchi fans like ecchi for" or "the ecchi here had something else or some bullshit" rather than just trying to deny a major aspect of the product for their own self-gratification. I hate that and I'm not going to work with politesse in admonishing the idea that KLK should not be tagged as an ecchi on this site, since that kind of mindset actively makes using a tag I want to be able to use to seek out a kind of content I like completely fucking useless, since the tag is generally applied like garbage because of shit like this. There are people like me who seek out this kind of content and it's fucking annoying how the tag can be useless because people don't want to acknowledge that KLK and some other stuff like Nisemonogatari has surpassed where the line has clearly been drawn in determining what's ecchi and what isn't. |
ManabanJul 13, 2017 5:23 PM
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  Yea I always used to wonder why kill la kill was never tagged as ecchi, but now that it is I'm pretty satisfied. Although it has nudity that doesn't fit traditional "themes" of ecchi where maybe a girl's skirt is lifted by the wind or a guy falls on a girl and grabs her boob or something, it's still ecchi nonetheless. I also believe that it used to be PG-17, i wonder why they took it down to PG-13? |
perve said: Yea I always used to wonder why kill la kill was never tagged as ecchi, but now that it is I'm pretty satisfied. Although it has nudity that doesn't fit traditional "themes" of ecchi where maybe a girl's skirt is lifted by the wind or a guy falls on a girl and grabs her boob or something, it's still ecchi nonetheless. I also believe that it used to be PG-17, i wonder why they took it down to PG-13? yeah, this is what seems to be the most common argument as to why "KLK is not an ecchi" which I think is very dumb "it doesn't use the exact same tropes as the genre so therefore it cannot be an ecchi because clearly any deviation from these tropes whatsoever magically makes something not an ecchi, reeeeee" I'm just glad that it has the tag now quite frankly, it never felt like anything except the best summary of how glaringly inconsistent the ecchi tag is applied (and I feel like the same case can apply with harems imo), which kind of makes searching for ecchi to watch using this site's database a pain in the ass imo maybe it's something like KLK was prior to now, or Nisemonogatari where there's clearly enough to warrant the tag considering some of the other stuff labeled as ecchi, but it doesn't have it for some reason, or maybe it's something that doesn't really need the tag and just has a few brief panty shots yet apparently still warrants the tag Also idk about the PG-13 thing but I'm immensely satisfied so long as it has the ecchi tag so eh |
ManabanJul 13, 2017 6:02 PM
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Manaban said: perve said: Yea I always used to wonder why kill la kill was never tagged as ecchi, but now that it is I'm pretty satisfied. Although it has nudity that doesn't fit traditional "themes" of ecchi where maybe a girl's skirt is lifted by the wind or a guy falls on a girl and grabs her boob or something, it's still ecchi nonetheless. I also believe that it used to be PG-17, i wonder why they took it down to PG-13? yeah, this is what seems to be the most common argument as to why "KLK is not an ecchi" which I think is very dumb "it doesn't use the exact same tropes as the genre so therefore it cannot be an ecchi because clearly any deviation from these tropes whatsoever magically makes something not an ecchi, reeeeee" I'm just glad that it has the tag now quite frankly, it never felt like anything except the best summary of how glaringly inconsistent the ecchi tag is applied (and I feel like the same case can apply with harems imo), which kind of makes searching for ecchi to watch using this site's database a pain in the ass imo maybe it's something like KLK was prior to now, or Nisemonogatari where there's clearly enough to warrant the tag considering some of the other stuff labeled as ecchi, but it doesn't have it for some reason, or maybe it's something that doesn't really need the tag and just has a few brief panty shots yet apparently still warrants the tag Also idk about the PG-13 thing but I'm immensely satisfied so long as it has the ecchi tag so eh Yea, but it just kinda irks me that Kill la Kill has the same age rating as Sailor Moon |
daddyknives said: I was checking the ecchi genre and noticed that High School DxD was bumped to the fourth most popular ecchi and replaced by Kill la Kill, which formerly was not rated as ecchi at all. I was a little confused because if I remember correctly, Kill la Kill's main purpose was the theme of clothing and nudity (don't get me wrong, I haven't seen this in a year). That saying, I can understand why this is considered ecchi, because even though it only has a PG-13 rating, nudity is still a strong factor, although its purpose in this series might not be only for "fanservice." Discuss Ofc it's ecchi.... |
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| "Do you agree that Kill la Kill is ecchi?" Yes. |
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