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Apr 7, 2017 3:59 AM

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yurkin said:
@logic340 #200
Voting for rosie were simply rvs, not real suspect, but can't say i exclude players from suspicion.

I don't trust people which say trust me in general, and from my lame deductions - the cultist is is one person, if lynched day1 the cult is done fore, i think if pursued or pressured in some way the cultist will try really hard to defend itself.
Overall Purity seem to be acting that way, but who knows, different individuals act different, can't put everything in one frame.


Sound reasoning but you forgot one thing. I drew the attention to myself and put myself in that spot so that I can defend and clear the air so that I can play the way I want. If I am the cultist as you say, wouldn't I play more conservative than defensive? I would say that the cultiest cannot afford to attract attention to himself at all, which is the opposite of what I was doing. Even if I look at myself from an outsider's POV, I dont think I am the cultist, if anything, there's a higher chance of me being a zombie if I'm scum at all. If you're looking at cultist, I'd rather look at those quieter ones that participate but minimally, somewhere along the lines of Rinto, Rosie or Ruu.

Question to town: Is zombie or cultist a higher threat to us day 1? Let's say we found a zombie and a cultist, which do you lynch first?
Apr 7, 2017 4:20 AM

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Kit said:
ummm doesnt "back-up" usually mean they exist after a certain person has died? so how could 2 priests exist at the same time...
This doesn't feel like a normal Kit question. Honestly the majority of your posts feel off to me at this point. The backup would know they are the backup. So while their ability wouldn't be active there would still be two Priests in the game?
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grrr logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco, RE1031

Doughkey reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit
Rinto-kun grrr
logic340 Shinichi-Kun
Oyasumi_Rosie yurkin
Kit Doughkey
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Apr 7, 2017 4:25 AM

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Alright. I've waited long enough to do anything useful. I think Doki was on to something with his very first post. Not the fluffy reasons, but the fact that Kit's first post mentioned infection but not conversion. In a game where most common tells don't apply, TMI still can. While being fluffy, Kit accidentally admitted to not being at risk of conversion from cult.
Vote: Kit
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Apr 7, 2017 4:26 AM

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Hmm, thats the opposite of what i thought.
As i see it, the zombies can take it easy, since even if one of them is lynched that won't lead to the identity of the second; it won't be so easy to beat the zombie fraction, as infection take time to develop, not fast but steady.

Still there are the two (potential, one back up) priests thats able to fight the zombies, but is there a way to fight the cult? I need to reread the abilities, but once the cult start to spread is there a mechanism or ability enable to slow down its growth?
Apr 7, 2017 4:28 AM

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Also, what is up with this grrr train?
"Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him".
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Apr 7, 2017 4:34 AM

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Oh, there quite some votes for grrr, just noticed.
Apr 7, 2017 5:00 AM

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Sleipnirr said:
if you have played with me before what are your thoughts on my play style if not what are your thoughts on this post.


Generally shitty. If I didn't know your meta I would scum read you every single game, you contribute very little in the early game but usually come out more by late game. Tendencies to lurk, not bad at reads overall though. And I see what you are going for with this post.

Kit said:
I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none


Why would you prefer to lynch a town over not lynching anyone?

yurkin said:
Grrr can't fake claim, all roles are known, and one cannot simply fake claim since it will be obvious to the real role.
So yeah, grrr is the priest. The priest is immune to zombies but can still be infected, is that one of the said hidden mechanisms in the game, just assuming, but could an infected one infect an another person?

And second - the priest will find the original role of the one vissiting him, so he'll see a converted to zombie town as town, and converted to cultist town as town as well, if I get it right.

And yeah, good morning everyone! >.</


If the real priest is anyone who has played with Grr, they would not CC him because they know how often he is full of shit. Or if the Priest is a skilled player they would see the benefit of the claim, which I have no problem outting right now because it just goes to cause more confusion than needed in an already clusterfucked game.

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If you're the priest then you just made yourself useless lol so I don't believe it
you do this fake claim stuff as town too tho so whatever

I'm probably wrong as always, but whats the point of fake claim?


If Grr is town he would fake claim it to deviate attention from himself, giving the scum a higher chance of targeting the actual priest. Scum will also feel less inclined to fake claim it themselves, they would rather claim a role that has not already been claimed since that has a lower chance of ending up in an argument. Just the idea that Grr has the balls to legitimately claim priest if he is though discredits all of what I said. I think the fake claim is silly af though, Grr probably didn't put that much thought into it and just thought "lol it would be funny to claim :D"

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Hmm, thats the opposite of what i thought.
As i see it, the zombies can take it easy, since even if one of them is lynched that won't lead to the identity of the second; it won't be so easy to beat the zombie fraction, as infection take time to develop, not fast but steady.

Still there are the two (potential, one back up) priests thats able to fight the zombies, but is there a way to fight the cult? I need to reread the abilities, but once the cult start to spread is there a mechanism or ability enable to slow down its growth?

Kill the cultist, the rest are only cult members and can't spread the AIDS.
Apr 7, 2017 5:04 AM

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Once culted you turn into vanilla cultist.

The one role that is out of danger from other beside lynching is the priest, namely the first one not the back up one.

The zombies should most difinitely want the priest lynched, is side note if the zombies will try to do it so obviously by the pretext of fake claiming or not.

As for why grrr even claimed, for town is not benefical to claim imo. Claims are looked upon with suspicion, despite them being truthful or not.
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Sleipnirr said:
Hi there I decided to replace suzune as on impulse. Dont expect much from me and I just pulled an allnighter so I am going to sleep (thats how I found the replacement too was messing with the phone and saw the message on skype) I have one question to everyone though if you have played with me before what are your thoughts on my play style if not what are your thoughts on this post. Anything is fine as long you just post something. For the ones who dont know or dont remember my old name was Kasai so see ya
Welcome to the game. Your playstyle is one that I find hard to nail down. I have yet to see your scum game but have lynched you off as town. I had reasons but they were still incorrect :(

What do I make of this post? It's just an interdictory post imo. A way to say hello but I don't feel it tells me much about your alignment.
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@Astros why are you not voting? I claimed early on that I wont be participating in RVS and took a shit from Doki and shini cause of it. I explained my rationale behind it and am very open about it. You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why?

I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder.
Apr 7, 2017 5:07 AM

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Really? If so i have misunderstood that XD lol.
Well the situation of town doesn't look so bad then...
Apr 7, 2017 5:10 AM

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I figured the votes on me would scoot after like 16 hours because one is like a threat for me to marry them, one didn't have a message, and the other was because of my disdain for the D word mostly.

Vote on Kit was asspulled to create conversation and have some kind of substance over a useless RVS. Confrontation with CP was also to provide information, he was online at the time so I bit.

Kit is neutral/scum because of useless fluff posts, OMGUS, and the better stated reason of what Penta posted at the top of this page.

CP is neutral/town for now. Being overly defensive was kind of sus, everything else I said was just to trigger you into talking more or cracking. I disagree with your play but despite what I said, you really can't scum read off of a consistent meta. Like Grr, he is always anti-town, but that doesn't mean he is scum. And real talk, I skim or ignore parts of your posts when they are bulked into big ass paragraphs. I am a hypocrite though.

Apr 7, 2017 5:11 AM

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Really? If so i have misunderstood that XD lol.
Well the situation of town doesn't look so bad then...


It should be. I lost as a cult member in Lupa's ultimate mafia game before because of this. @aa-dono can you confirm if a converted cult member is considered a cultist or just a cult member?
Apr 7, 2017 5:12 AM

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Has Grr been getting killed early in his latest games?
Apr 7, 2017 5:14 AM

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Doughkey said:
Has Grr been getting killed early in his latest games?
Nope he made it to D3 of Alcatraz on a fake miller claim and he won Kitty Mafia as scum voting me for 5 days straight (from his first vote almost to his last).
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Apr 7, 2017 5:17 AM

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PentaFlare said:
Also, what is up with this grrr train?
"Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him".


So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here.
My vote was RVS
Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious
Qoco says he wants to start fires
grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure
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RE places vote on grrr for pressure

Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen?
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Apr 7, 2017 5:23 AM

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logic340 said:
Doughkey said:
Has Grr been getting killed early in his latest games?
Nope he made it to D3 of Alcatraz on a fake miller claim and he won Kitty Mafia as scum voting me for 5 days straight (from his first vote almost to his last).

Roger, theory was that if he had been dying early he would just claim to survive a day phase to get a conversion out and call it a job well done.

So in Alcatraz he was mafia claiming miller? He could have seen the fake claim strategy worked out well enough for him once so he went for it again. And Kitty Mafia just sounds like classic Grr.

Well, after playing like a hundred fucking games with Grr I think I have started to develop some semblance of a meta on him, given a few days I will probably have something tangible.

For now I am leaning neutral/town. Claiming priest would be way too risky in the eyes of a scum, especially this game at this time. The risk should highly outweigh the rewards, if a scum dies before they get their conversion off they are at a tremendous disadvantage. Alternatively, if Grr is a vanilla townie, the reasons I stated in response to Gerkin apply. And the obligatory: "Regardless of what faction Grr is, he is viable lynch option"
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Hi there I decided to replace suzune as on impulse. Dont expect much from me and I just pulled an allnighter so I am going to sleep (thats how I found the replacement too was messing with the phone and saw the message on skype) I have one question to everyone though if you have played with me before what are your thoughts on my play style if not what are your thoughts on this post. Anything is fine as long you just post something. For the ones who dont know or dont remember my old name was Kasai so see ya


I rather you play how you used to than try to be super aggresive which ik ur not lol.


Sorry but I dont really feel very good about this post it almost feels like you are trying to manipulate me by making me go back to my old style which you know much better than the current one making it easier for you to control or anticipate my actions. And I know very well how you can manipulate some one Izaya
Apr 7, 2017 5:26 AM

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Kit said:
Sleipnirr said:
Hi there I decided to replace suzune as on impulse. Dont expect much from me and I just pulled an allnighter so I am going to sleep (thats how I found the replacement too was messing with the phone and saw the message on skype) I have one question to everyone though if you have played with me before what are your thoughts on my play style if not what are your thoughts on this post. Anything is fine as long you just post something. For the ones who dont know or dont remember my old name was Kasai so see ya
i don't really remember enough to comment, i guess you didn't leave an impression on me
thoughts on this post is i'm wondering why you want peoples thoughts on you


That happens when you dont survive past day 1 (talking about myself ofcourse)
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Btw ik this is weird after all my voting posts about cp, i think no lynch might be better tho this is just my opinion cause it makes it harder for a pr to get converted with mre people alive, tho its obviously better if we could manage to lynch one of the converters roles day 1.
I'm sure this has been discussed but while I'm catching up: this sounds like a more terrible idea than it usually is because 1. more scums alive more conversions happening faster 2. we will need to carefully reexamine everyone every new day phase because of the conversions so we need to not be wasting time not lynching

and every town (ie a prevented mislynch thru nolynching) is a potential future scum, which could potentially be dangerous

Though while I'm thinking about this, I just realized the usefulness of zombies to town- they essentially can eliminate a cult conversion for a night :Ic hm

I think my lynching preference would be cult>zombie>town>none
I have to ask you to clarify why it sounds more horrible to NL D1? Mislynching doesn't stop a conversion from happening and narrows the pool of players making it quicker for the zombies or cult to achieve their win condition. So if you feel it's t/t leading the lynch would you lynch for information? Try to find the actual scum? or push a no lynch if possible? Honestly in a t/t leading lynch situation I think I would take the No Lynch in this situation for multiple reasons:
1. It makes it harder for a PR to be converted/infected
2. Start D1 at 13-2-1 would start D2 at 12-2-2
3. We don't risk losing a PR on the only night we are assured to have them all at our disposal.
4. If we lynch the priest is severely limits our chances of success.

Kit said:
Ok so, I'm not going to give town reads because in a conversion game it'd be dangerous if a highly town read person got converted to scum

since there's three scum, i'll pick three i feel may be scum.

Doki, for reasons stated, and i feel like he was intentionally trying to look like he was scum hunting, but the stuff he posted about me and cp was so useless it may as well have been fluff.

Ruu, I have a bad feeling about her, and when I have a bad feeling about her this early she turns out scum... I think she seems very careful, calculated this game. I'm scared.

...

actually i can't even figure out a third person because from them up most of my feelings are "im not sure" "i dont remember" or "seems town"

suppose this is fine for now. time to get some sleep hopefully
I don't see a problem with giving town reads because all reads will need to be reevaluated the next day anyway due to conversations. There are kind of distinct mindsets for the Zombies and Cult Leader imo so think about what they need to do to achieve their win con and I think you will see that handing out town reads isn't as detrimental as you think (so long as you constantly reevaluate them).
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yurkin said:
And forgot to mention in this game the two zombies doesn't know each other, and until the cultist start to convert, currently we dont have 3 scums working together, but 3 separate ones. Trail of collaboration between scums won't exist until the cult convertion start.
Therefore there won't be a flip as usual, in day1 that is.

Will the zombies try to give like secret sign to each other, or the'll work separatelly?
I thought about that last night, can't say if it have any real significance though.
Since zombies start to convert from night 2 onwards, if i got that part right.
The Zombie know who one another are but they do not have a secret club to chat in. This means that they will most likely not be voting or pushing suspicion on one another. When conversions start happening looking for tonal and behavioral changes will be key.
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Doughkey said:
logic340 said:
Nope he made it to D3 of Alcatraz on a fake miller claim and he won Kitty Mafia as scum voting me for 5 days straight (from his first vote almost to his last).

Roger, theory was that if he had been dying early he would just claim to survive a day phase to get a conversion out and call it a job well done.

So in Alcatraz he was mafia claiming miller? He could have seen the fake claim strategy worked out well enough for him once so he went for it again. And Kitty Mafia just sounds like classic Grr.

Well, after playing like a hundred fucking games with Grr I think I have started to develop some semblance of a meta on him, given a few days I will probably have something tangible.

For now I am leaning neutral/town. Claiming priest would be way too risky in the eyes of a scum, especially this game at this time. The risk should highly outweigh the rewards, if a scum dies before they get their conversion off they are at a tremendous disadvantage. Alternatively, if Grr is a vanilla townie, the reasons I stated in response to Gerkin apply. And the obligatory: "Regardless of what faction Grr is, he is viable lynch option"
Sorry I wasn't more clear in Alcatraz he was town claimed miller and made it to D3 on that claim before I used it to push his lynch (I was mafia).

I think I agree with you last paragraph, I know grrr likes to do silly risky shit but this is more inline with what I have seen from his town game than what I expect after seeing his scum game in Kitty mafia. It's grrr though so I never know and would like more people to talk about him and engage him in this game.
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Apr 7, 2017 5:33 AM

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unvote: grrrr
Vote: Kit

Right now I am most suspicious of Kit. Way too much fluff and non-game related posts, this is not what I am used to from Kit. Her questions don't really seem to be all that alignment indicative like I am used to, she's way more playful and doesn't seem to be focused. Not liking her contributions so far and a little bit of pressure may be helpful in figuring her out or getting her on track.
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okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can
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@Astros why are you not voting? I claimed early on that I wont be participating in RVS and took a shit from Doki and shini cause of it. I explained my rationale behind it and am very open about it. You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why?

I also now want to lynch someone on Grrr's train cause scum should be lurking in there. He's too easy of a lynch fodder.
I also have my concerns about Astros this game due to lack of contribution to this point.

grrr ☒ logic340, Oyasumi_Rosie, Qoco, RE1031

Not as worried about this train as you are. 3 of these are RVS and RE's vote is pressure (not sure how well that will work out).
Doughkey ☒ reiynii, Rinto-kun, Kit

I would say I am more concerned with this train than the grrr train at this point.
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Ouch. I deeply apologize to everyone for forgetting about this game ;_;
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okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can
As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions.
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I dont think Doki is scum, with the distribution of votes right now 3/3 grrr/doki anyone can hop on the doki train...
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I agree but with lynching being our primary way of gather information it becomes imperative that we lynch. So if the situation arises at the EoD1 where I am not comfortable with either target I would probably bring up the idea though I know it will come with repercussions. I did the math last night 3 mislynches with everything else going right for Zombies and Cultists and this game is over EoD3.



yep your right i was def wrong bringing up the no lynch option i feel, another thing that i think would bother me alot are people that claim i dont think im gonna trust a single claim during this game.


What do you mean by that? At worst you should be able to trust the first day claims as this is the only time we can be sure that they are town.
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Hmm, thats the opposite of what i thought.
As i see it, the zombies can take it easy, since even if one of them is lynched that won't lead to the identity of the second; it won't be so easy to beat the zombie fraction, as infection take time to develop, not fast but steady.

Still there are the two (potential, one back up) priests thats able to fight the zombies, but is there a way to fight the cult? I need to reread the abilities, but once the cult start to spread is there a mechanism or ability enable to slow down its growth?
The thing is we still get information on their partner or anyone they may convert later down the line (though it isn't easy to come by). The way this happens is by looking into interactions after you we a zombie flip. Personally I think I would rather get a Zombie on D1 since the cult leader is the only one who can further spread the cult while the zombies can all spread infections.
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yurkin said:
I dont think Doki is scum, with the distribution of votes right now 3/3 grrr/doki anyone can hop on the doki train...
grrr has 4 before I switched to Kit.
As I understand it there is a 3-way tie for the lead
Kit/grrr/Doki all have 3 votes each I believe.
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Ouch. I deeply apologize to everyone for forgetting about this game ;_;
Please forgive me T.T
Get it together...
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Sleipnirr said:
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yep your right i was def wrong bringing up the no lynch option i feel, another thing that i think would bother me alot are people that claim i dont think im gonna trust a single claim during this game.


What do you mean by that? At worst you should be able to trust the first day claims as this is the only time we can be sure that they are town.
When you see the two claims I want to know if you really believe this. And if you do then your vote should be on Penta right now.
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logic340 said:
Sleipnirr said:
okay I will start backreading rn from what I understand reading the setup there is not going to be nk instead conversion. So this game will be more centered around mind games rather than suspicions as you wont be able to trust your reads whole game (if you are thinking about that I suggest you change that mentality) We have to take each days' posts as independent post as someone might be converted and honestly if we dont get a scum flip first day I think its gonna be very hard to win this game. The host didnt specify but I am assuming that they will be able to convert in the first night so in day 2 we will have at least 4 scums and with each day its gonna keep getting harder and harder since we cant just universally town read someone and decrease our poe list. Anyway as always if you wanna talk or want my opinion on something just tag my name I will answer it as best as I can
As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions.


Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town.
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logic340 said:
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What do you mean by that? At worst you should be able to trust the first day claims as this is the only time we can be sure that they are town.
When you see the two claims I want to know if you really believe this. And if you do then your vote should be on Penta right now.


Havent made it that far yet.
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Oh, Rinto-kun have showed up, good to see you >.</
Many people here waited for you.
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Sleipnirr said:
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As the number of scum increase actually lynching scum will become easier. I don't know about throwning out reads completely as tonal and behavioral changes could lead us to potential scum due to conversions.


Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town.
See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup.
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Apr 7, 2017 5:56 AM

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CorruptedPurity said:
@Astros why are you not voting?
Astros said:
If we kill the priest then we make the Zombies chances of successful conversion higher as there's always the possibility they'll visit the priest on D1. There's also the chance of killing Sleepwalker or Psychic who help identify and prevent conversions. If we simply kill a villager then we increase the Cultists and Zombies chances of converting a PR. We would get more information if we allowed the three PR's I mentioned to act a single night. If we lynch them on D2 at least the Pathologist can help us identify someone innocent or guilty.


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You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why?
Let you know once I catch up. @logic340
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Sleipnirr said:


Not throwing out reads throwing out your town reads. You can still scum read people just not town read as that might affect your mentality and you would become unwilling to lynch that person and if that person is turned into a cultist then that town read can make town potentially lose the game. Secondly yeah it will be easier to lynch scum but their number will keep growing but if we get a scum in the first its gonna be huge for town and we can potentially stop a faction before even becoming a real threat to town.
See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup.


Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2
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logic340 said:
See with knowing that conversations can happen I do not agree with throwing out all town reads. This is my first time in this type of setup but especially as early as D2 I wont be throwing out my town reads so easily. Why? Because only one person can be converted N1. Why throw out all my work from D1 when only 1 out for the remaining 14-15 players has the chance of being converted? Sounds silly to me honestly, now on D3 when there is the potential for 3 more conversions then it makes a whole lot more sense. I can understand being ready but some of what I am reading seems more like fear mongering based on the setup.


Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2

N1 - Cult Conversion which takes place D2 (1 Conversion)
N2 - Potential for 2 Zombie conversions plus a second Cult Conversion (3 conversions)
D3 - Start worst case scenario we have 4 (2 cult and 2zombie) conversions and have caught no scum yet.
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CorruptedPurity said:
@Astros why are you not voting?
Astros said:
If we kill the priest then we make the Zombies chances of successful conversion higher as there's always the possibility they'll visit the priest on D1. There's also the chance of killing Sleepwalker or Psychic who help identify and prevent conversions. If we simply kill a villager then we increase the Cultists and Zombies chances of converting a PR. We would get more information if we allowed the three PR's I mentioned to act a single night. If we lynch them on D2 at least the Pathologist can help us identify someone innocent or guilty.


CorruptedPurity said:
You had time to think, where will your vote lie? And if you're choosing to keep it, why?
Let you know once I catch up. @logic340
why was I tagged in this?
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why was I tagged in this?
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@Astros other than D1 no lynch do you have any suspicions or town reads you would like to speak on in regards to the game?
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logic340 said:
why was I tagged in this?
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@Astros other than D1 no lynch do you have any suspicions or town reads you would like to speak on in regards to the game?
ah....ok, will be patiently waiting.
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logic340 said:
Sleipnirr said:


Actually not 1 person but 3 Cultist will convert 1 and zombies will convert 2

N1 - Cult Conversion which takes place D2 (1 Conversion)
N2 - Potential for 2 Zombie conversions plus a second Cult Conversion (3 conversions)
D3 - Start worst case scenario we have 4 (2 cult and 2zombie) conversions and have caught no scum yet.


Oh right I forgot that they would wait for 1 day but if the players knows that they are infected do you think that they will play pro town? I dont believe that is the case (unless the player doesnt know that he is infected)

Also I backread but I cant really understand the heat on penta that claim seems like something he would do and about grr's calim you know he is grr you cant say that he lied or told the truth.
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Hmm.....I like it spicy Kit
Why announce your RVS like this
I'm the imposter though so how does he get voted?
i always announce my rvs what
So since no one was talking I actually went to verify this. In actuality you have only every once announced you RVS in this manner and it was due to being a late RVS vote in TGT game post #83. So no you do not always announce your RVS votes like you did here and I find it odd along with your other behavior thus far.
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yurkin said:
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Really? If so i have misunderstood that XD lol.
Well the situation of town doesn't look so bad then...


It should be. I lost as a cult member in Lupa's ultimate mafia game before because of this. @aa-dono can you confirm if a converted cult member is considered a cultist or just a cult member?
Just a cult member.

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Also, what is up with this grrr train?
"Oh, he claimed a PR, that's so scummy, we should lynch him".


So Penta I have to ask if you are not reading the thread or if you are trying to protect grrr here? Three of the 4 votes came before his claim. He claimed under no pressure. It's grrr so I doubt anyone even believes the claim. If we don't believe the claim and think he is scummy we should certainly be voting here.
My vote was RVS
Rosie's vote seems more fluffy than serious
Qoco says he wants to start fires
grrr claims Priest with 3 votes on him and little pressure
Vote Count
RE places vote on grrr for pressure

Honestly don't see anything wrong with any of the votes on grrr right now. I'm actually curious why you and @CorruptedPurity are shaming people off this train rather than trying to help figure grrr out so another Kitty Mafia doesn't happen?

I'm not shaming the reasons people voted, I'm shaming that they are still voting for grrr even now. These are all fluff votes on a claimed PR. The only other attention payed to grrr is comments on how the claim seems scummy. That's makes the votes on this train really bad. A leading train of entirely fluff votes at this point in the phase is awful.
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I do kind of see the benefit of no lynch today (and today alone). There are plenty of power roles, and we may be able to nail at least one guilty player day 2 with the information gained night 1. There would be no new zombies and 1 more cult member. Let's face it, the chances of us lynching a guilty player today are basically none.
And well, it's ironic I say this because the reason I voted for Shinichi-kun to begin with was because of the no lynch suggestion.
And while I say there is a benefit, I think it's unlikely we'll go for no lynch. Because we just love getting information even at the expense of a townie.

Going to bed soon, I hope more people respond when I wake up. Namely Penta and grrr.


Ya sounds about right, pretty much an unavoidable situation unless we get really lucky lynching one of the converters.


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