Grapefruit21 said: Suzune-chan said: Indeed, I thin kthat tonal reads will be very important this time. I know that I have trouble articulating those, but I will try to make them clear. You many be corerct about the most common. When I played mafia on mal it was very common to have alignment changes. I digress, it is just speculation on my part and perhaps a tad of bias because I enjoy the challenge of that in bastard games. Speculation is good. I really liked most of your post. Just thought the hey, we should throw out previous behaviour and completely reevaluate every day is a reasonably scummy thing to say. Even if there are alignment changes there won't be so many of them that behavioural analysis is useless. Do agree on the tonal point though. Which sucks because they are hard to articulate. I agree with this, you get pocketed too fast. |
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_Claire_ said: While true, what is the relevance to the game at hand and what you quoted? Also tunnels are a larger problem than pockets for me.Grapefruit21 said: Speculation is good. I really liked most of your post. Just thought the hey, we should throw out previous behaviour and completely reevaluate every day is a reasonably scummy thing to say. Even if there are alignment changes there won't be so many of them that behavioural analysis is useless. Do agree on the tonal point though. Which sucks because they are hard to articulate. I agree with this, you get pocketed too fast. |
Grapefruit21 said: _Claire_ said: While true, what is the relevance to the game at hand and what you quoted? Also tunnels are a larger problem than pockets for me.I agree with this, you get pocketed too fast. I was saying you should always reevaluate your first day Town-read. Also if you haven't realized right, from my previous 2 scum games, you always townread 70% of the scum-group. It can be inidicative that people who play scum are almost always playing very townish. |
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_Claire_ said: Indeed, playing too perfect of a town game is a scum tell. Townies do not overthink games the way scum do.Grapefruit21 said: While true, what is the relevance to the game at hand and what you quoted? Also tunnels are a larger problem than pockets for me. I was saying you should always reevaluate your first day Town-read. Also if you haven't realized right, from my previous 2 scum games, you always townread 70% of the scum-group. It can be inidicative that people who play scum are almost always playing very townish. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Pockets are a bigger concern for you. You both pocket and get pocket too easily. I think it stems from the fact you become very resolute that your reads are correct therefore scum can keep tabs on you and if they agree with you, you are more likely to town read them. Just my observation._Claire_ said: While true, what is the relevance to the game at hand and what you quoted? Also tunnels are a larger problem than pockets for me.I agree with this, you get pocketed too fast. |
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Suzune-chan said: _Claire_ said: Indeed, playing too perfect of a town game is a scum tell. Townies do not overthink games the way scum do.I was saying you should always reevaluate your first day Town-read. Also if you haven't realized right, from my previous 2 scum games, you always townread 70% of the scum-group. It can be inidicative that people who play scum are almost always playing very townish. I am hoping to get you as scum if you are :P You are indeed scary lol But anyway I think we should set aside the bastard theory. Knowing shad, he likes to put weird stuffs in the game. I am not going to be surprised if there is framer. Actually I got this weird role when I was scum in his game (back then). It works like, I am an Illusionist. So I chose 2 people and their alignment will be what the other person is. Example: A is town B is scum. I swapped them, so B appears as town, A as scum when investigated. It was such a good role as we managed to put the town into despair (plus sane and insane cop on play). So if Shad is doing the game it is almost guaranteed this role is in the game, or at least a Framer. |
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| CP had a strong intro. Claire's was not strong and pings for scum because it is an insert into a conversation rather then the addition of new information. |
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| The fact that there was a delay between my two posts makes them awkward. So Claire was new observations do you have to add. |
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Suzune-chan said: CP had a strong intro. Claire's was not strong and pings for scum because it is an insert into a conversation rather then the addition of new information. Strong intro, is it indicative alignment for you? Lol Suzune-chan said: The fact that there was a delay between my two posts makes them awkward. So Claire was new observations do you have to add. Sorry? |
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| No, but it shared new information and opened a conversation. While yours was a insert into a conversation without a push. Always interesting to see why people insert and how it affects the conversation because you can spot good changes there. That was more of a me comment the second one. I got distracted between posts so some of the feeling was lost because of my delay. |
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Suzune-chan said: No, but it shared new information and opened a conversation. While yours was a insert into a conversation without a push. Always interesting to see why people insert and how it affects the conversation because you can spot good changes there. That was more of a me comment the second one. I got distracted between posts so some of the feeling was lost because of my delay. Push, dont really want to push anything but looking at the activity I am a bit sad :') I used to be able to see 1000 posts in day 1 phase. |
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Grapefruit21 said: Shad that is much more legible. I'm loving CorruptedPurity's feisty nature so far. Makes me want to give a really strong town read, but I didn't read the game we were in together and don't know if it's outside their scum range. @CorruptedPurity was your fair enough reasons to my Suzune part or my Kaitou part? Pretty sure my latter is my best reasoned argument so far. Consider me on the Lam-b wagon in spirit as well! But seriously corruptedpurity I think you are likely town 8 times out of ten with your entrance. im gettng the same feelig i got from cp last game i just cant tell if it has mafia intention or town intention behind the words. |
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Oyasumi_Rosie said: Shinichi-Kun said: Im contemplating voting you just because u keep trying to force a reason on an obvious rvs vote. But... I do it every game, regardless of alignment or reason... Does it bother you that much nii-san? /edit spelling This smells fishy. Trying to justify a behavior because you do it every game regardless of alignment smells like mafia to me. Vote: Rosie Personally, I think Suzu's post is town motivated, because she was looking for activity when there was none. The contents of it... well, seems a bit like paranoid thoughts and what ifs. She's a great player so I can't trust myself too much in this one, but I believe she's town. Also sorry mates, was reinstalling windows and stuff on my laptop and then I fell asleep until now. |
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_Claire_ said: Suzune-chan said: No, but it shared new information and opened a conversation. While yours was a insert into a conversation without a push. Always interesting to see why people insert and how it affects the conversation because you can spot good changes there. That was more of a me comment the second one. I got distracted between posts so some of the feeling was lost because of my delay. Push, dont really want to push anything but looking at the activity I am a bit sad :') I used to be able to see 1000 posts in day 1 phase. what does activity have to do with ur post? |
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Shinichi-Kun said: _Claire_ said: Push, dont really want to push anything but looking at the activity I am a bit sad :') I used to be able to see 1000 posts in day 1 phase. what does activity have to do with ur post? What? I dont understand. I was just commenting at the activity. |
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| no one can complain about being asked questions about their votes if they place on a train cause this early on its scummy unless u have legit reasons to push a train on said person. |
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Sonata said: Oyasumi_Rosie said: But... I do it every game, regardless of alignment or reason... Does it bother you that much nii-san? /edit spelling This smells fishy. Trying to justify a behavior because you do it every game regardless of alignment smells like mafia to me. Vote: Rosie Personally, I think Suzu's post is town motivated, because she was looking for activity when there was none. The contents of it... well, seems a bit like paranoid thoughts and what ifs. She's a great player so I can't trust myself too much in this one, but I believe she's town. Also sorry mates, was reinstalling windows and stuff on my laptop and then I fell asleep until now. i tend to do the same thing tho, just not with a vote since its a powerful tool. The experience i have of playing with suzune is that she is an amazing player with an even more amazing behavior analytic skill. Thats why as scum she is pretty scary and also why im always wary of her. No biggie u still got anther like 26 hours |
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yes but what does this do lol, its like ur trying to tell suzune she is scummy for forcing activity through her thought process |
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| What they've said. I don't think it says anything good about you. Could at least give some reasoning to your vote instead of just joining the train and see what comes of it. |
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| Catching up, atm. From experience, regarding this whole mechanic discussion, it's something I refer as pseudo Pro-town action. Obviously, during the first day, there's barely going to be anything to talk about, so I see it as the easy way to earn brownie points. Scum are most likely to do it, though it isn't rare for town either, since yes, it does indeed spark discussion. But like someone said, it doesn't push the game forward either. |
| Regarding what to expected in bastard games, regardless of who is hosting, you should be ready to expect the worst. Alignment change isn't far fetched. |
CorruptedPurity said: I have never been scum or TPR, I have been town 10 times and I am currently in a few other games. I'm neutral on you and Suzune for now as you both have good scum games that come across very townie. logic340 said: @CorruptedPurirty I think I agree with Grapefruit on the mechanics talk. I don't see it driving the game forward but it's NAI to me anyway since Suzune is very helpful as scum (we didn't get to play together in Hirugashi) not sure about when she is town. 4 games at once was an accident. Post count might be down but hopefully the quality will be there. You and Claire have both pocketed me as scum in recent games. I'll be watching you two and Suzune for the pocket. I do agree with his mechanic talk and can understand why he would vote Suzu, however, I still do think that her attempt to make an informative post gives a town lean pass from me. Not a town read nor a confirm town but leaning towards town. You on the other hand give me an awkward town lean. The very nature of your posts always seem town but that's the problem, I can't tell the difference if you're scum or town. Just wondering, have you played any games as mafia or TPR or are all your games town? By right, you should be leaning towards town for me, but since I can't read you that well, I will just neutral-read you for now. Suzune-chan said: Jackrito's words from NnT come to mind "town look scummier than scum". I find that a lot of us get pocketed easily as mafia have won the majority of the game I have played in so far. Grapefruit21 said: Pockets are a bigger concern for you. You both pocket and get pocket too easily. I think it stems from the fact you become very resolute that your reads are correct therefore scum can keep tabs on you and if they agree with you, you are more likely to town read them. Just my observation.While true, what is the relevance to the game at hand and what you quoted? Also tunnels are a larger problem than pockets for me. Why are you also on the wagon in spirit? Sonata said: Rosie generally looks scummy early so I need to see more before I can really go either way. You played a game with Suzu as mafia recently are her posts within the realm of what she can produce as mafia? Oyasumi_Rosie said: But... I do it every game, regardless of alignment or reason... Does it bother you that much nii-san? /edit spelling This smells fishy. Trying to justify a behavior because you do it every game regardless of alignment smells like mafia to me. Vote: Rosie Personally, I think Suzu's post is town motivated, because she was looking for activity when there was none. The contents of it... well, seems a bit like paranoid thoughts and what ifs. She's a great player so I can't trust myself too much in this one, but I believe she's town. Also sorry mates, was reinstalling windows and stuff on my laptop and then I fell asleep until now. Suzune-chan said: I agree town has never benefited from inactivity (Disgaea still stings). Rinto and I are here to nudge he inactives so lets hope the others who haven't posted will get it in gear here shortly.You are also unwilling to push activity you said, just to bemoan the lack of it. Town does not benifit from lack of activity. |
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Kaitou said: Regarding what to expected in bastard games, regardless of who is hosting, you should be ready to expect the worst. Alignment change isn't far fetched. From you prob not but from shads game i cant picture it but im always wary. |
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Shinichi-Kun said: Kaitou said: Regarding what to expected in bastard games, regardless of who is hosting, you should be ready to expect the worst. Alignment change isn't far fetched. From you prob not but from shads game i cant picture it but im always wary. Yeah, but Ruu is co-hosting so... |
Shinichi-Kun said: Spicy host meta? I just take things as they come. Hirugashi didn't have anything wild but I'm curious to see what real bastard elements are like? Kaitou said: Regarding what to expected in bastard games, regardless of who is hosting, you should be ready to expect the worst. Alignment change isn't far fetched. From you prob not but from shads game i cant picture it but im always wary. @Kaitou and @Lam-b Since this is our first game together can you both tell me a little about your mafia experience? |
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| Regarding Mafia, I don't have much experience with Lamb minus two games and another one I've hosted, but I did think that people were looking too much into it. Grr is playing this too, who probably is more bonkers than Lamb regarding playstyle, imo. (From what I've seen.) I would probably take every he says with a grain of salt during the early stages of the game. |
logic340 said: Spicy host meta? I just take things as they come. Hirugashi didn't have anything wild but I'm curious to see what real bastard elements are like? @Kaitou and @Lam-b Since this is our first game together can you both tell me a little about your mafia experience? In Mafia Society or in general? I've only played two mafia games here and hosted one, so I'll respond to the latter. I've been playing the game for the past five years, with some breaks here and there. I haven't played a game in general since October since I decided to retire, but decided to give it another go cause of hosts. Anyway, I find that I can do fairly decent regardless of alignment. :S |
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She loves bastard set-ups. Either way, should always expect the worst regarding of hosts, lel. |
Sonata said: The executioner post and your vote we before the game actually started. Now he did bring it up again in #35 but I see that more as a reaction test than a serious claim. Also in your experience was he lying as town or scum? If it's something he normally does as scum then cool by all means let that be your reason but if it's null or NAI then why is lying the reasoning behind your vote. Like if he lies as town would you still want him lynched? I don't mind playing with unorthodox players I thoroughly enjoy playing with Denja and his antics. Still it's something to keep an eye on as the game progresses.@logic340 he was the first vote for me. Don't like liars, and he's always confusing as heck to play with. Also, he confessed to be exe after all!!11!! |
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logic340 said: Sonata said: The executioner post and your vote we before the game actually started. Now he did bring it up again in #35 but I see that more as a reaction test than a serious claim. Also in your experience was he lying as town or scum? If it's something he normally does as scum then cool by all means let that be your reason but if it's null or NAI then why is lying the reasoning behind your vote. Like if he lies as town would you still want him lynched? I don't mind playing with unorthodox players I thoroughly enjoy playing with Denja and his antics. Still it's something to keep an eye on as the game progresses.@logic340 he was the first vote for me. Don't like liars, and he's always confusing as heck to play with. Also, he confessed to be exe after all!!11!! Fair enough, but yeah it was more to see the reaction of people with my vote. |
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Kaitou said: I was just asking in general. I stared playing Halloween 2016 here is a link to my Blog mafia game history.logic340 said: Spicy host meta? I just take things as they come. Hirugashi didn't have anything wild but I'm curious to see what real bastard elements are like? @Kaitou and @Lam-b Since this is our first game together can you both tell me a little about your mafia experience? In Mafia Society or in general? I've only played two mafia games here and hosted one, so I'll respond to the latter. I've been playing the game for the past five years, with some breaks here and there. I haven't played a game in general since October since I decided to retire, but decided to give it another go cause of hosts. Anyway, I find that I can do fairly decent regardless of alignment. :S |
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Vote Count 1.2 ✥ ✥ ✥ ✥ ✥ ✂ Kit: logic340, Lamb, Claire ✄ Oyasumi_Rosie: Kit, Sonata ✄Suzune-chan: Rinto-kun ✄ Shinichi-kun: Kaitou ✄ JustKrista: Shinichi-kun ✄ Lamb: Suzune-chan ✄ Kaitou: Grapefruit21 Not Voting: Togs, grrr, JustKrista, CorruptedPurity, Gwendolly and Oyasumi_Rosie Mod Notes: ^^ TIME UNTIL NIGHT 1 |
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Kaitou said: I kind of agree with this, cause in the past I've seen early mechanics discussion from scum too, even though it didn't look scummy at the time, in retrospect its clearly a way to "look like you're doing something" without commenting on the players/gamestate or moving the game forward. So suzu isn't really getting town points from me (but no scum points either)Catching up, atm. From experience, regarding this whole mechanic discussion, it's something I refer as pseudo Pro-town action. Obviously, during the first day, there's barely going to be anything to talk about, so I see it as the easy way to earn brownie points. Scum are most likely to do it, though it isn't rare for town either, since yes, it does indeed spark discussion. But like someone said, it doesn't push the game forward either. |
| Vote: Logic Too much off-topic banter & mechanics talk early on, not enough actual analyzing even tho he's trying to look involved by commenting on what others already said or referencing past games without saying much about the current game in respect to the experience he is bringing up. He does seem to have an opinion in 136 But I'd argue that talking about something from before roles were given out is pointless (though it's fair of him to ask sonata about it but i'm saying this post in particular doesn't need to come from town) Actually quite a few people are talking quite a lot about mechanics :/ It's day 1 so that isn't even a priority right now. |
| kay, I'm here. Like I said I'm still all rusty and usually always clueless in how to get the game rolling. I wont concentrate on mechanics now (someone always has to be the first) and right now I dont see anything too suspicious too, besides that from my experience scum would just always hide and let the town talk until they unnecessarily shoot in each others feet. So yea I would like everyone to have a word in here. Because I would just totally vote the inactives lol vote:grrr for example What does NAI mean btw? |
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Kit said: Gwendolly said: That was before the game started so I assume it did not count, also Lamb's claim was before roles were given out too. (sorry if someone said this already, catching up)Not that I'm protecting anyone here but he/she already placed a vote first thing. What do you think of Lambs statement? And everyone elses oppinion too? Lambo has too much of a crazy playstyle T^T Do we know for sure tho, that roles werent given out before the game officially started. Because that's usually the case no? |
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Gwendolly said: Kit said: That was before the game started so I assume it did not count, also Lamb's claim was before roles were given out too. (sorry if someone said this already, catching up) Do we know for sure tho, that roles werent given out before the game officially started. Because that's usually the case no? Game can't start without everyone getting thier roles, yeee |
Kaitou said: Gwendolly said: Do we know for sure tho, that roles werent given out before the game officially started. Because that's usually the case no? Game can't start without everyone getting thier roles, yeee Well, I mean the thread was already created, which must also mean giving away roles was in process. And maybe Lamby got it first while CP didnt recieved his yet. >.< I joined much later I can't prove it, maybe someone else? Oh well regardless it's still a troll move to claim first thing....so meh! Won't look much deeper into that..for now |
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logic340 said: I was just asking in general. I stared playing Halloween 2016 here is a link to my Blog mafia game history. Cool. Looking forward to playing with you then. Kit said: I kind of agree with this, cause in the past I've seen early mechanics discussion from scum too, even though it didn't look scummy at the time, in retrospect its clearly a way to "look like you're doing something" without commenting on the players/gamestate or moving the game forward. So suzu isn't really getting town points from me (but no scum points either) Right same with me. It's not something that would make me sus of someone but mechanics and role talk really really on always strike me as anti-town, regardless of how much the "contributing to the game" card is being pulled. With that being said, I don't discourage it either because it people reply to it, you can get something out of them as well. |
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