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Feb 21, 2017 7:45 AM
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We all know that men always tend to be more close-minded than women. But why does this sitll happen so much now a days? I'm talking this mostly about straight and cis males.
I was trying to refer to this subject, sorry ~> especially when it comes to their masculinity or heterosexuality, they are always desperate to protect them, like always avoiding to do things that would make them sound like "feminine" or "gay".

For example; Some men mind so much being naked in front of each other, some of them find it really disgusting. If you mind so much protecting your heterosexuality, wouldn't a naked men in front of you and you not getting aroused a proof of that?
In fact many men who worry so much about their heterosexuality, are one of the most prone to be closet gays.

Same for masculinity, why do they mind so much on acting "feminine" or doing "feminine"? But I somehow kinda understand this part.

What you guys think?

inb4 "It depends on the man" Yes, I know, Sherlock Holmes, I'm just say a good part of men are like this if not most of them.
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Something about social programming from since they were a child. That's just how they were teached to be. Femininity, emotions and homosexuality are all weaknesses and enemies of the ideal man (to them).
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Frag- said:
We all know that men always tend to be more close-minded than women. But why does this sitll happen so much now a days? I'm talking this mostly about straight and cis males.
I mean, especially when it comes to their masculinity or heterosexuality, they are always desperate to protect them, like always avoiding to do things that would make them sound like "feminine" or "gay".

For example; Some men mind so much being naked in front of each other, some of them find it really disgusting. If you mind so much protecting your heterosexuality, wouldn't a naked men in front of you and you not getting aroused a proof of that?
In fact many men who worry so much about their heterosexuality, are one of the most prone to be closet gays.

Same for masculinity, why do they mind so much on acting "feminine" or doing "feminine"? But I somehow kinda understand this part.

What you guys think?

inb4 "It depends on the man" Yes, I know, Sherlock Holmes, I'm just say a good part of men are like this if not most of them.


What? You don't like being naked in front of a man? What are you a faggot?
Feb 21, 2017 8:59 AM
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There's nothing more manly than cock, so sucking dicks and taking it up your ass is the epitome of manliness. If you're cis you're therefore a little bitch boy.
Feb 21, 2017 9:02 AM
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If this is a bait it's not funny if this is the real thoughts of OPs that's sad.

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inb4 "It depends on the man" Yes, I know, Sherlock Holmes, I'm just say a good part of men are like this if not most of them.


"good part of men" I love to see the statistic about that. I mean you got it right? Since you created a topic based on this sentence.

Let me answer:

Every female born with semi-lesbian thoughts. It depends on the woman. I know, Watson I'm just say a good part of females are like this if not most of them.
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I could almost start a thread asking why people like generalizing so much.

Have you ever seen a frat house? 90% of frat initiations are the opposite of heterosexual activities.




On a serious note, I don't buy this close-minded straight "cis" male assertion. You're telling me women in general aren't close-minded as well? Everyone is close-minded, it's not exclusive. It's just that when it comes to gender, femininity is considered weak and those who buy into the notion of the big stronk masculine homo erectus are overzealous protecting that notion because some social circles are filled with degenerates who think it's socially valuable to be able to poke a hole in a beer can and consume what's inside as quickly as possible.

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What? You don't like being naked in front of a man? What are you a faggot?


Yes.


Feb 21, 2017 9:48 AM
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I don't recognize this view in men. Several times when I've been visiting the urinals while being at the nightclub, dudes have been staring at my reproductive organ and said "nice cock man", and I've been responing "thanks mate". It felt so open-minded and liberating that we can make comments about each others reproductive organs like this.


well great, now i can never use a urinal again..
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Feb 21, 2017 12:17 PM
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sasalx said:
If this is a bait it's not funny if this is the real thoughts of OPs that's sad.

Frag- said:

inb4 "It depends on the man" Yes, I know, Sherlock Holmes, I'm just say a good part of men are like this if not most of them.


"good part of men" I love to see the statistic about that. I mean you got it right? Since you created a topic based on this sentence.

Let me answer:

Every female born with semi-lesbian thoughts. It depends on the woman. I know, Watson I'm just say a good part of females are like this if not most of them.
Yeah, I love to see the statistic about that.

TheUnknownMerc said:
Frag- said:
We all know that men always tend to be more close-minded than women. But why does this sitll happen so much now a days? I'm talking this mostly about straight and cis males.
I mean, especially when it comes to their masculinity or heterosexuality, they are always desperate to protect them, like always avoiding to do things that would make them sound like "feminine" or "gay".

For example; Some men mind so much being naked in front of each other, some of them find it really disgusting. If you mind so much protecting your heterosexuality, wouldn't a naked men in front of you and you not getting aroused a proof of that?
In fact many men who worry so much about their heterosexuality, are one of the most prone to be closet gays.

Same for masculinity, why do they mind so much on acting "feminine" or doing "feminine"? But I somehow kinda understand this part.

What you guys think?

inb4 "It depends on the man" Yes, I know, Sherlock Holmes, I'm just say a good part of men are like this if not most of them.


What? You don't like being naked in front of a man? What are you a faggot?
I'd not mind, the guys is such a fag is he doesn't think like that.
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Feb 21, 2017 1:30 PM
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bro im so manly i would gladly suck a dude off to prove that im not gay.
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Frag- said:
sasalx said:
If this is a bait it's not funny if this is the real thoughts of OPs that's sad.



"good part of men" I love to see the statistic about that. I mean you got it right? Since you created a topic based on this sentence.

Let me answer:

Every female born with semi-lesbian thoughts. It depends on the woman. I know, Watson I'm just say a good part of females are like this if not most of them.
Yeah, I love to see the statistic about that.

TheUnknownMerc said:


What? You don't like being naked in front of a man? What are you a faggot?
I'd not mind, the guys is such a fag is he doesn't think like that.


Since I said every woman you don't need a statistic. %100 semi-lesbian. Amirite?
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Frag- said:
Yeah, I love to see the statistic about that.

I'd not mind, the guys is such a fag is he doesn't think like that.


Since I said every woman you don't need a statistic. %100 semi-lesbian. Amirite?
My intention was not stating anything as statistics, but we all know it's like that, usually.
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Frag- said:
sasalx said:


Since I said every woman you don't need a statistic. %100 semi-lesbian. Amirite?
My intention was not stating anything as statistics, but we all know it's like that, usually.


Let me show my answer with a video.

Feb 21, 2017 3:28 PM

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Frag- said:
My intention was not stating anything as statistics, but we all know it's like that, usually.


Let me show my answer with a video.

I'm sorry, that's unclear and I don't know your point.
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Feb 21, 2017 3:31 PM

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sasalx said:


Let me show my answer with a video.

I'm sorry, that's unclear and I don't know your point.


Well you don't know the meme I guess.

-but we all know it's like that

-You think you do but you dont.
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There are a lot of things expected of the male gender just like the female. Society is forgiving when a female breaks the expectancy of others because they're associated with emotions and fragile description so not a lot of people mind it when it happens. VS men are usually held accountable for their action since they're associated with toughness and reasonable responsibilities + taking care of the female gender. Simply when you try to break away from that it becomes tougher since society wont easily let go of it. Not only females will be the judge but also fellow male since they themselves follow that path.



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sasalx said:
Frag- said:
I'm sorry, that's unclear and I don't know your point.


Well you don't know the meme I guess.

-but we all know it's like that

-You think you do but you dont.
Well, a lot of men match with what I said in the OP. I dunno in what of the world you live if they are not like that.
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Feb 21, 2017 3:36 PM

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There's nothing more manly than cock, so sucking dicks and taking it up your ass is the epitome of manliness. If you're cis you're therefore a little bitch boy.

Yeah, you're also a little bitch boy if you don't let your girlfriend fuck other men. I mean it's the current year, it's not the 1800s anymore. Give me a break. We shouldn't hold our partners only for ourselves like they were some kind of property to us. That's just a disgusting old outdated idea. What are these men even afraid of? It's not manly to be afraid.


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well great, now i can never use a urinal again..

Don't tell me that you are close-minded?

not really, i just have a small dick..
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Frag- said:
sasalx said:


Well you don't know the meme I guess.

-but we all know it's like that

-You think you do but you dont.
Well, a lot of men match with what I said in the OP. I dunno in what of the world you live if they are not like that.


That is why I asked a statistic. How can you say that? Did you travel every part of the world or most of it to make an observation? I bet you did not.
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Well, a lot of men match with what I said in the OP. I dunno in what of the world you live if they are not like that.


That is why I asked a statistic. How can you say that? Did you travel every part of the world or most of it to make an observation? I bet you did not.
Surely I didn't, but I'm focusing on our avarage Western culture, okay?
Also, if it's different somewhere in the wolrd I'd like to know.
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That is why I asked a statistic. How can you say that? Did you travel every part of the world or most of it to make an observation? I bet you did not.
Surely I didn't, but I'm focusing on our avarage Western culture, okay?


Oh my bad. Wrong question. So you did observe every western country then.
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Surely I didn't, but I'm focusing on our avarage Western culture, okay?


Oh my bad. Wrong question. So you did observe every western country then.
Neither this, I meant it's what usually happens, that's why I don't like to state things inb4 people think I'm generalizing, I knew this would happen.

Plus if there's a place like that, tell me :0
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That is not what open/close-minded means, this thread is retarded.
Feb 21, 2017 4:06 PM

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Straight men are close minded

Homo/bisexual men aren't because they've discovered the wonders of gay sausagery
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I don't recognize this view in men. Several times when I've been visiting the urinals while being at the nightclub, dudes have been staring at my reproductive organ and said "nice cock man", and I've been responing "thanks mate". It felt so open-minded and liberating that we can make comments about each others reproductive organs like this.
That's only because you're Swedish
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Oh my bad. Wrong question. So you did observe every western country then.
Neither this, I meant it's what usually happens, that's why I don't like to state things inb4 people think I'm generalizing, I knew this would happen.

Plus if there's a place like that, tell me :0


Now we come to the conclusion. If you didn't make a research or observation whatsoever you can't say "it's what usually happens" because you have no data about the matter.

It's like saying Sweden attacked by terrorists. Oh wait someone did that.
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Moog said:
There's nothing more manly than cock, so sucking dicks and taking it up your ass is the epitome of manliness. If you're cis you're therefore a little bitch boy.

Yeah, you're also a little bitch boy if you don't let your girlfriend fuck other men. I mean it's the current year, it's not the 1800s anymore. Give me a break. We shouldn't hold our partners only for ourselves like they were some kind of property to us. That's just a disgusting old outdated idea. What are these men even afraid of? It's not manly to be afraid.

I know, right? Monogamy is so regressive, and it's actually a sign of insecurity if you keep your woman all to yourself. Are you afraid of competition? If you're a real man, like the cuckolds, you'd be happy to let her fuck other men. It's the current year after all.

I've actually seen people that believe this stuff.
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But one time the guy was Korean I believe, so I don't think so
He probably just wanted to ta säden, I mean seden, dit man kommer
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OP obviously is very close minded as well. Ever been to a gym OP? Ever been to a Boy's Locker room? If you are a man and your best friend is also a man, there's a good chance that parents and outside lookers would think that you're a gay couple because you're so close. Men aren't at all close minded when it comes to that shit, we slap each others asses when we do something great or something borderline retarded.

You're probably thinking that since bitches like grabbing each others tits and making out, that us men should normalize grabbing each others balls and making out. This thread is stupid.
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sasalx said:
Frag- said:
Neither this, I meant it's what usually happens, that's why I don't like to state things inb4 people think I'm generalizing, I knew this would happen.

Plus if there's a place like that, tell me :0


Now we come to the conclusion. If you didn't make a research or observation whatsoever you can't say "it's what usually happens" because you have no data about the matter.

It's like saying Sweden attacked by terrorists. Oh wait someone did that.
It's the same saying that "most people are straight" for example, we all know that's true, we don't really need a data for that.
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Comic_Sans said:
He probably just wanted to ta säden, I mean seden, dit man kommer

Hu, maybe that's why he was licking around his mouth at the same time
You should've let him go down on you there and then
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@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite
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Moog said:
There's nothing more manly than cock, so sucking dicks and taking it up your ass is the epitome of manliness. If you're cis you're therefore a little bitch boy.
Sucking dick is how you dominance towards a man in a relationship, that's manly, man.

I just didn't get the cis little bitch boy part.
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Feb 21, 2017 5:08 PM

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>Its not gay if the dick is cute



So, what ya shitting for fam? Ohhh nothing, now let's move on
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>Its not gay if the dick is cute



So, what ya shitting for fam? Ohhh nothing, now let's move on

I 100% endorse this message, fam.

Sometimes they're just cute af but that doesn't make me gay, of course.
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I think its because the stereotypic male ideal and gender expectations are pushed onto guys from the start. Like being tough, strong and not act like a "girl" - because that's such a bad thing.
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It's a form of seeking dominance, just like some women seek dominance in their beauty as well.
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We all know that men always tend to be more close-minded than women.


Trash Gordon wants to present to you today's Logical Fallacy: Popular Appeal, where it assumes that a widely held belief is true simply because it is widely held.
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Frag- said:
We all know that men always tend to be more close-minded than women.


Trash Gordon wants to present to you today's Logical Fallacy: Popular Appeal, where it assumes that a widely held belief is true simply because it is widely held.
That's a popular appeal, I wasn't really trying to be that "logical", I regret writting this, sorry. Peace.
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Men in many countries have no problem bathing together or being nude in front of each other, and it's more of a modern thing (nude bathing in public baths has historically been very common all over Europe, and is still common in Japan, Scandinavia, perhaps Italy, etc.). As for why many men shy away from such a thing now, I don't think it's close-mindedness, but rather a sense of privacy and perhaps even insecurity. Being naked in front of other men has a certain sense of intimacy (and no, not in a homosexual way), because you're exposing parts of yourself that are sensitive and easily damaged.

I assume it is mainly an issue of privacy. Not wanting to invade the privacy of other men, and not wanting to have your own privacy invaded.
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Stereotypes, Fear, religion, Current movements and expectations, way raised, cultural expectations, personality, ect.
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i think the evolutionary word for this was sexual selection if im right that we man tend to be more competitive while woman tend to be more cooperative, so a lot of man tend to be disgusted with homosexuality since it can lower their chance of having sex with females if they suddenly like homosexuality too, in other words for maximum gene pool maintenance then man should be close minded about homosexuality and only go for heterosexual acts

but natural does not always mean good, society today is prone to overpopulation already and we must fight and evolved are irrationality brought by human nature
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"A woman's sexual identity is thought to be more influenced by romantic opportunities and women are said have a more fluid approach to relationships". Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/sex/11820710/Women-more-likely-to-be-bisexual-study-finds.html

My answer: because all women think women are sexy. I don't believe the same can be said for men.
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You chose one thing among many.

In my experience, men are far more open-minded. They're easier to talk to and to get along with. We may have the whole masculinity thing, but we're much friendlier.
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I never understood the discomfort with being naked in front of each-other. It always took most of the freshmen forever to get used to our helicopter shower parties after swim practice in high-school. From what I was told it was even worse on the girl's team though, apparently they didn't even have any kind of shower parties after practice.
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For example; Some men mind so much being naked in front of each other, some of them find it really disgusting.


Yeah, regardless of anything else you said, I think most of us can agree that we don't wanna see some random dude's dick. Being overprotective of our masculinity or not, like df m8?. "Some"? Lmao, you mean MOST.
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For example; Some men mind so much being naked in front of each other, some of them find it really disgusting.


Yeah, regardless of anything else you said, I think most of us can agree that we don't wanna see some random dude's dick. Being overprotective of our masculinity or not, like df m8?. "Some"? Lmao, you mean MOST.


Funny how 3 years in the army stop that. It's just a dick. Nothing to get excited about. We took showers together all the time.
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Yeah, regardless of anything else you said, I think most of us can agree that we don't wanna see some random dude's dick. Being overprotective of our masculinity or not, like df m8?. "Some"? Lmao, you mean MOST.


Funny how 3 years in the army stop that. It's just a dick. Nothing to get excited about. We took showers together all the time.
Well, I'll leave you with your modified conditioned view of seeings other people's dicks around you and not get grossed out, while everyone else stays away from that shit. No surprise that in prison and the Army/Navy/Etc people go gay.. If you're forced to have that sight for 3 years, no wonder you've become numb to it, lmao.
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i have straight guy friends and all of them are open-minded,in fact some of them are more open-minded than me
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Rarusu_ said:
I don't recognize this view in men. Several times when I've been visiting the urinals while being at the nightclub, dudes have been staring at my reproductive organ and said "nice cock man", and I've been responing "thanks mate". It felt so open-minded and liberating that we can make comments about each others reproductive organs like this.
you are probably being hit on by fags......

I mean I dont know how nightculbs work, but dont they have these partitions in urinals..... so if someone's literally looking at ur dick over them instead of minding his own damn business, he's interested in more than just looking........

OT
so Im close minded cuz I dont like being around other mens naked penises as a straight man?

what a dumbass.

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Soriki said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


Funny how 3 years in the army stop that. It's just a dick. Nothing to get excited about. We took showers together all the time.
Well, I'll leave you with your modified conditioned view of seeings other people's dicks around you and not get grossed out, while everyone else stays away from that shit. No surprise that in prison and the Army/Navy/Etc people go gay.. If you're forced to have that sight for 3 years, no wonder you've become numb to it, lmao.


It doesn't take 3 years. It only takes one shower or two.

Huh, it's just a dick.
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