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Just to handle my expectations: Will this season be like the 1st one with a big focus on Megumin or will the other girls/new "main" characters actually get relevant screentime?

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Jan 18, 2017 5:55 PM
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One of my few gripes with the 1st season is that, aside from Kazuma himself, everyone seemed secondary to Megumin since her introduction (even Darkness, who even came after her and basically only got a few minute long gags...)
Considering she was the least funny character to me (since I hate chuunibyou), a second season that keeps this up would be a bummer to me. Since I'm pretty hype about it but will only start watching the show later on, I wanted to know if I should be looking foward to something different or not.

How has it been so far in that regard (and to the LN readers, how will it be)?
Jan 18, 2017 6:29 PM
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Well this season would not be mainly about Megumin, that's for sure. Of course there are some character-centered episode, but in this episode half of them was shared with Yunyun's introduction and character. Not to mention the first half also includes Kazuma and the gangs antics, so it's not really a centered episode of Megumin.

The main character focus in volume 3 (episode 1-5) is

Meanwhile Volume 4 (episode 6-10) would be mostly about

Not to mention Megumin only has a small glimpse of development via those flashbacks with Yunyun and won't have more till her own main LN on volume 5. That is if season 3 will come. That is until season 3 comes.

Edit: I mean, the title of volume 3 is:

So that's pretty obvious on who is the character focus.
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Jan 18, 2017 7:22 PM
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BluexMage said:
(since I hate chuunibyou)


She's not Chuunibyou, as this episode shows, there are a lot more of them out there.

Indeed there is an entire clan of them (as the name Crimson Magic Clan suggests). What should be the final arc of this season will introduce you to them and why they are the way they are, if done well it should be epic, you will laugh, you will cry, they will become part of you.
Jan 18, 2017 7:25 PM
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I'm pretty sure everyone will get some screen time. It'd be lame if it was all devoted to just one character.
Jan 18, 2017 7:31 PM
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Takuan_Soho said:
BluexMage said:
(since I hate chuunibyou)


She's not Chuunibyou, as this episode shows, there are a lot more of them out there.

Indeed there is an entire clan of them (as the name Crimson Magic Clan suggests). What should be the final arc of this season will introduce you to them and why they are the way they are, if done well it should be epic, you will laugh, you will cry, they will become part of you.


Nah. With only 10 episodes in this season like last year, there is almost 0% chance that volume 5 will be adapted. Unless they skipped volume 4 to volume 5. Since as of right now, we're having 1 chapter per episode pacing with 5 chapters per LN. So that's only 2 LN possible with this pacing.

Jan 19, 2017 6:24 AM
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DarklordVor said:
Well this season would not be mainly about Megumin, that's for sure. Of course there are some character-centered episode, but in this episode half of them was shared with Yunyun's introduction and character. Not to mention the first half also includes Kazuma and the gangs antics, so it's not really a centered episode of Megumin.
Oh cool. I think Darkness has the most potential to me if she gets any sort of development. Her gimmick was fine at first but since we barely got anything aside from
it kinda started to drag on for me.

And Aqua seemed pretty cool at the start of the season before she started being *just there*. The jokes surrounding her are probably the funniest to me (if you disregard Kazuma himself who carries the show for me) so I'm glad we'll get back to her...eventually.

Takuan_Soho said:
BluexMage said:
(since I hate chuunibyou)


She's not Chuunibyou, as this episode shows, there are a lot more of them out there.

Indeed there is an entire clan of them (as the name Crimson Magic Clan suggests). What should be the final arc of this season will introduce you to them and why they are the way they are, if done well it should be epic, you will laugh, you will cry, they will become part of you.
I won't watch it for now so I wouldn't know that part, but even if there's a reason, I most likely won't start enjoying her gimmick. She just plains annoys me, even though I don't actually hate her character.

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I'm pretty sure everyone will get some screen time. It'd be lame if it was all devoted to just one character.
Oh, that's for sure. It's just that I feel that the more serious plot points in the first season were based around Megumin (and then Aqua, and then Darkness with that one moment). They all got some screentime but by the time the season ended, I felt Aqua was more of a side-character than anything and Darkness didn't get anything aside from being masochistic.
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Jan 19, 2017 7:38 AM
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Can Megumin even be said as a Chuunibyou at this point? Just from episode 2, we can see that she's somewhat tsundere-ish now rather than delusional. Arguing with Kazuma, love-hate relationship with Yunyun, pretending to not care when she actually does, and other tsundere-ish characteristics.

The only thing delusional left on her is probably some few one-liners, but the rest of her lines are mostly girlish to tsundere-ish. She barely even uses her eyepatch anymore, only to Yunyun probably. And other delusional lines that she make was during casting explosion, but Wiz from episode 10 last season proved that they have the same chants of spell. So I've always thought that Megumin has matured way more than she first appeared.
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DarklordVor said:
Nah. With only 10 episodes in this season like last year, there is almost 0% chance that volume 5 will be adapted. Unless they skipped volume 4 to volume 5. Since as of right now, we're having 1 chapter per episode pacing with 5 chapters per LN. So that's only 2 LN possible with this pacing.


I think they will cover 5 for the simple fact that they showed Megumin's younger sister in that flashback. But I could be wrong. I see it as 1-4 book 3, 5-7 book 4, 5 in 8-10 (with maybe the conclusion in the OVA that is going to be released with Vol. 12). There is a lot in 4 that can be cut (like the whole travel to the city), and if they then go directly to the village, they can cut a good chunk of 5 without too much being lost.

BluexMage said:
I won't watch it for now so I wouldn't know that part, but even if there's a reason, I most likely won't start enjoying her gimmick.


Well, that sort of is the joke, it isn't "her gimmack", as YunYun's introduction this episode shows, it is just the way everyone in her hometown acts.
Jan 19, 2017 5:40 PM
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Takuan_Soho said:

BluexMage said:
I won't watch it for now so I wouldn't know that part, but even if there's a reason, I most likely won't start enjoying her gimmick.


Well, that sort of is the joke, it isn't "her gimmack", as YunYun's introduction this episode shows, it is just the way everyone in her hometown acts.
In that case I'll just end up being annoyed by her entire hometown. It's fine for the first 5 minutes or if the character actually acts serious most of the time, but if not, I just end up wanting to go as far away from them as possible.
And if she turns into more of a tsundere like another poster mentioned, that'll make her annoy me even more. I'm really not fond of tsunderes so trading one disliked personality trait for another would be pretty awful.
Incidentally, I hated how she acted towards her "rival" in the OVA, but I'll atrribute that to it being a fanservice-y OVA.

But eh, I'll only know when I get there. I'll probably wait until the season is over to watch the whole thing (unless I can't stop myself and start watching it soon). Maybe her arc won't be as bad as I fear, even if it involves stuff I'm certainly not a fan of.

And hey, the other 2 girls are apparently getting their share of screentime so I'm not too worried. Worst case scenario I'll just dislike an arc but enjoy the other two.
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BluexMage said:
In that case I'll just end up being annoyed by her entire hometown.


Yes, I guarantee you will (along with the entire Demon King Army). I also guarantee that if you watch this through the end you will be laughing your guts out.

BluexMage said:
And if she turns into more of a tsundere like another poster mentioned, that'll make her annoy me even more. I'm really not fond of tsunderes so trading one disliked personality trait for another would be pretty awful.


Same as above. Maybe it would help if I said that the writer thinks the exact same way you do about such characters. But because of this she can turn these stereotypes into comedic gold.

BluexMage said:
Incidentally, I hated how she acted towards her "rival" in the OVA, but I'll atrribute that to it being a fanservice-y OVA.


Oh no, yes the OVA was animation only, but Megumin treats Yunyun far worse this episode, BUT again the writer is fully aware of their relationship. Oh, and Megumin is not a tsundere, she is an "S". But since YunYun is a happy "M", it all works out.

Because tastes differ, I cannot say that you will enjoy the series, but if you wanted to see the "chuunibyou" and "tsundere" stereotypes be completely deconstructed, then this writer will not disappoint you. For this series "bugs" are actually "features".
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Well you won't get volume 5 instead more focus on Aqua and Darkness so you should be fine I guess. And yeah a new character. Unless Deen trolls everyone by going straight to vol 5 after 3 since Megumin is a hugely popular character, that is.
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Frostbytes said:
Well you won't get volume 5 instead more focus on Aqua and Darkness so you should be fine I guess. And yeah a new character. Unless Deen trolls everyone by going straight to vol 5 after 3 since Megumin is a hugely popular character, that is.



This thinking confuses me. Why should anyone think that they need to skip anything of substance in order to get to Vol 5? Any decent writer could skip 50% of 4 and 25% of 5 without skipping a beat.

If this series had 5 seasons guaranteed, then yes, I would agree that they could spend 8 more episodes on volumes 3 and 4, but another season is not guaranteed. That stated, ending at chapter 4 would not do anything to drive future sales, ending at 5 could promote another season (particularly since the end of 5 introduces a great character).
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DarklordVor said:
Nah. With only 10 episodes in this season like last year, there is almost 0% chance that volume 5 will be adapted. Unless they skipped volume 4 to volume 5. Since as of right now, we're having 1 chapter per episode pacing with 5 chapters per LN. So that's only 2 LN possible with this pacing.


I think they will cover 5 for the simple fact that they showed Megumin's younger sister in that flashback. But I could be wrong. I see it as 1-4 book 3, 5-7 book 4, 5 in 8-10 (with maybe the conclusion in the OVA that is going to be released with Vol. 12). There is a lot in 4 that can be cut (like the whole travel to the city), and if they then go directly to the village, they can cut a good chunk of 5 without too much being lost.


I don't think that would be even possible. So what we currently have is

Episode 1 - Chapter 1

Episode 2 - Chapter 2

Episode 3 (from the preview on episode 2) - Party Swap (Dust being drunk) and Aqua + Kazuma going to the dungeon (both from volume 1-2 that was skipped) + possibly chapter 3

So it's really hard to see episode 4 wrapping up volume 3 and I really don't like seeing Megumin's main focus LN to be chopped to only 3 episodes (since this is one of my favorite volume out of this series). It deserves much better than just 3 episodes (especially that one beautiful scene and that ending scene)

I'm seeing the Komekko cameos + Funifura and Dodonko's name drop as a glimpse of a season 3 confirmation.

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Well you won't get volume 5 instead more focus on Aqua and Darkness so you should be fine I guess. And yeah a new character. Unless Deen trolls everyone by going straight to vol 5 after 3 since Megumin is a hugely popular character, that is.



This thinking confuses me. Why should anyone think that they need to skip anything of substance in order to get to Vol 5? Any decent writer could skip 50% of 4 and 25% of 5 without skipping a beat.

If this series had 5 seasons guaranteed, then yes, I would agree that they could spend 8 more episodes on volumes 3 and 4, but another season is not guaranteed. That stated, ending at chapter 4 would not do anything to drive future sales, ending at 5 could promote another season (particularly since the end of 5 introduces a great character).


No I don't want a half-assed adaptation like that. Deen already skipped some funny scenes like the party swapping one in first season, vol 4 has plenty of funny moments which I want to see adapted properly. I said that only because of kommeko flashbacks and megumin's huge popularity, there are less chances of it.
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No I don't want a half-assed adaptation like that. Deen already skipped some funny scenes like the party swapping one in first season, vol 4 has plenty of funny moments which I want to see adapted properly. I said that only because of kommeko flashbacks and megumin's huge popularity, there are less chances of it.


There's a high chance we're going to see two of the skipped scenes in the first season for the next episode. In episode 2's preview, we saw a red faced Dust (probably drunk) and Aqua with Kazuma using his stealth skill in a dungeon. So we're probably getting flashbacks of the party swap scene and Kazuma + Aqua in the dungeon meeting that undead.

The reason I think they skipped it because they didn't think that they would make a second season. Therefore removed some of side story scenes and focuses on developing the main ones.

Besides, I don't think they will jump from volume 3 to 5. They should be confident now that season 3 is quite possible, so jumping from 3 to 5 would destroy a lot of development for the characters.

Edit: And the other reason why I believe they're adapting volume 4 is because they're possibly doing the Party Swap Scene.
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No I don't want a half-assed adaptation like that. Deen already skipped some funny scenes like the party swapping one in first season, vol 4 has plenty of funny moments which I want to see adapted properly. I said that only because of kommeko flashbacks and megumin's huge popularity, there are less chances of it.


There's a high chance we're going to see two of the skipped scenes in the first season for the next episode. In episode 2's preview, we saw a red faced Dust (probably drunk) and Aqua with Kazuma using his stealth skill in a dungeon. So we're probably getting flashbacks of the party swap scene and Kazuma + Aqua in the dungeon meeting that undead.

The reason I think they skipped it because they didn't think that they would make a second season. Therefore removed some of side story scenes and focuses on developing the main ones.

Besides, I don't think they will jump from volume 3 to 5. They should be confident now that season 3 is quite possible, so jumping from 3 to 5 would destroy a lot of development for the characters.

Edit: And the other reason why I believe they're adapting volume 4 is because they're possibly doing the Party Swap Scene.


Well flashbacks should be fine with me, let's see what Deen has to offer with saggy tits and such.
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Well flashbacks should be fine with me, let's see what Deen has to offer with saggy tits and such.


You mean what Kikuta has to offer :P Because you know you can't blame Deen when Ebara and them made a very good quality episode on S2E2.

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Well as long as they don't give a lot of screen time to Yunyun and Wiz it should be okay. 3 girls + Kazuma as main chars are enough and they shouldn't turn one of those other girls in a main char - since they aren't that interesting.

I don't like Darkness. (She's the least interesting and a bit annoying if she starts fantasizing and the annoying/weird music plays.) But if it stays a bit more normal (like in episode 1 where she was a bit more serious with less comedy) - I guess here family + background story should be interesting enough to endure it.

Aqua + Megumin are nice so more focus on Aqua is okay. I didn't think season 1 was about Megumin only. The screen time seemed equally distributed.
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Frostbytes said:
No I don't want a half-assed adaptation like that. Deen already skipped some funny scenes like the party swapping one in first season, vol 4 has plenty of funny moments which I want to see adapted properly. I said that only because of kommeko flashbacks and megumin's huge popularity, there are less chances of it.


Just to give blame where blame is due: Deen did not skip "party swap", that was done by the animators LAST season. And as another commentator has noted (based on the next episode preview) it does seem like party swap will be animated next episode, and if so, we really need to tip our hats to the adapter here. Though I am hedging my bets, the previews also show Kazuma and Aqua's encounter with the lich, so I do have some worries about timing and forcing too much in one episode, but I want to see it before condemning it.

And in that vein, I do think this season will get through 5. While I would, as a fan, prefer everything to be adapted, from a pure commercial standpoint, I can't see this series ending at 4. I will not pretend to know how they will get from here to there (though if I were adapting this I know what I would do), but unless next season is already established, based on the content, Deen would want to end at 5 instead of 4.

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