Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
| I don't know if this is a spoiler but I seriously think that Emilia is the Jealous Witch or related to one I guess.... Maybe that's why she took the name of the most hated witch in the first episode |
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| Don't know about that. As far as episodes go, witch seems to strangely be ok with Subaru saving Emilia (stepping stone to ascend) and doing whatever he wants as long as it's not talking about the power. It is, in the case that the respawning power and the curse are the same thing, though, which we don't know for sure yet. |
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FononZero said: Tony_SansNom said: Don't know about that. As far as episodes go, witch seems to strangely be ok with Subaru saving Emilia (stepping stone to ascend) and doing whatever he wants as long as it's not talking about the power. It is, in the case that the respawning power and the curse are the same thing, though, which we don't know for sure yet. I'm not sure which part of the post you are referring to, But I'm assuming you meant ..... Because the Witch is okay with Subaru saving Emilia, you don't believe that Satella is jealous of Emilia? Which I guess could make sense too. Though I still don't think Emilia likes Satella, given the hints that we have right now. Yes, this is what I meant. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
| I think she has a split personality or the witch harbors inside of her. Would make a cool plot twist. Cuz just throwing up that her name is Satella was weird because he was going to call her that in public if they made it past the next day if didnt die. |
moodie said: I think she has a split personality or the witch harbors inside of her. Would make a cool plot twist. Cuz just throwing up that her name is Satella was weird because he was going to call her that in public if they made it past the next day if didnt die. My idea was she was trying to stop from Subaru getting in trouble, considering the insignia for selection of queen could potentially have put Subaru in a bad spot - but if he said he was trying to help someone named Satella most people would take it as a joke or that he was crazy. |
moodie said: I think she has a split personality or the witch harbors inside of her. Would make a cool plot twist. Cuz just throwing up that her name is Satella was weird because he was going to call her that in public if they made it past the next day if didnt die. I also thought about that, about the split personality. Considering she's half-elf it could make sense. |
"Doubting everything that you take on... That is very important. Open your own eyes, clear out your ears, and look and listen to the world... And think using your own brain. After you've doubted everything, there is a possibility of something real to believe in. To believe in something, doubt everything." |
| As much as I love Emilia, I smell something fishy. Something isn't right. So yes, she's hiding something. You're a keen observer. My thoughts so far: 1. Just like what you think, maybe she's a witch and related to Satella. 2. She's really Satella. 3. Just like what others say, she has multiple personalities. I also think that Subaru was summoned to the kingdom by the witch (either Satella or Emilia) to help her fix everything. Maybe Emilia or Satella messed up before that's why she needs help. I'm still thinking about my theories. EDIT (Additional info): As I stated above, since Subaru was summoned by the witch, he also has the scent of it that's why Rem hates him. |
TicklingThoughtsMay 22, 2016 7:10 AM
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TicklingThoughts said: As much as I love Emilia, I smell something fishy. Something isn't right. So yes, she's hiding something. You're a keen observer. My thoughts so far: 1. Just like what you think, maybe she's a witch and related to Satella. 2. She's really Satella. 3. Just like what others say, she has multiple personalities. I also think that Subaru was summoned to the kingdom by the witch (either Satella or Emilia) to help her fix everything. Maybe Emilia or Satella messed up before that's why she needs help. I'm still thinking about my theories. EDIT (Additional info): As I stated above, since Subaru was summoned by the witch, he also has the scent of it that's why Rem hates him. There is no other 'witch' alive right now, and the real Witch of Envy is said to be still sealed somewhere if I heard right. Although I do think Emilia is somehow related to her, maybe a descendant or copy? |
hailanth said: TicklingThoughts said: As much as I love Emilia, I smell something fishy. Something isn't right. So yes, she's hiding something. You're a keen observer. My thoughts so far: 1. Just like what you think, maybe she's a witch and related to Satella. 2. She's really Satella. 3. Just like what others say, she has multiple personalities. I also think that Subaru was summoned to the kingdom by the witch (either Satella or Emilia) to help her fix everything. Maybe Emilia or Satella messed up before that's why she needs help. I'm still thinking about my theories. EDIT (Additional info): As I stated above, since Subaru was summoned by the witch, he also has the scent of it that's why Rem hates him. There is no other 'witch' alive right now, and the real Witch of Envy is said to be still sealed somewhere if I heard right. Although I do think Emilia is somehow related to her, maybe a descendant or copy? Oh thanks for that info! Maybe. I think about that too. |
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hailanth said: moodie said: I think she has a split personality or the witch harbors inside of her. Would make a cool plot twist. Cuz just throwing up that her name is Satella was weird because he was going to call her that in public if they made it past the next day if didnt die. My idea was she was trying to stop from Subaru getting in trouble, considering the insignia for selection of queen could potentially have put Subaru in a bad spot - but if he said he was trying to help someone named Satella most people would take it as a joke or that he was crazy. I also thought she might have used this name in order to scare him away, in order to "protect him" so he doesn't get dragged into the chaos of this situation but think about it for a second... Random guy: So, what did you do? Subaru: I tried to get ot back and give it to its original owner Random guy: And who mght that be? Subaru: Oh, her name was Satella. She was very nice and I wanted to help her. Random guy: ....!!!!!!???? WTF? Something like this might happen. Then what would happen to him? He'd be jailed? Tortured? Even killed? That wouldn't protect him in any way. I understand the loigic: Subaru is supposed to know the witch and run away, but thing is, he didn't. That is pretty dangerous to me. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
| Yea going with related or a twin sister theory as well here, her being Satella herself is kinda off for some reason. |
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Tony_SansNom said: hailanth said: My idea was she was trying to stop from Subaru getting in trouble, considering the insignia for selection of queen could potentially have put Subaru in a bad spot - but if he said he was trying to help someone named Satella most people would take it as a joke or that he was crazy. I also thought she might have used this name in order to scare him away, in order to "protect him" so he doesn't get dragged into the chaos of this situation but think about it for a second... Random guy: So, what did you do? Subaru: I tried to get ot back and give it to its original owner Random guy: And who mght that be? Subaru: Oh, her name was Satella. She was very nice and I wanted to help her. Random guy: ....!!!!!!???? WTF? Something like this might happen. Then what would happen to him? He'd be jailed? Tortured? Even killed? That wouldn't protect him in any way. I understand the loigic: Subaru is supposed to know the witch and run away, but thing is, he didn't. That is pretty dangerous to me. Basically this. It was a bit of scare tactic/ruse. |
crx07 said: All we know about Emilia is that If we can prove that Satella cannot hide her smell, then Emilia is not Satella or even related to Satella. @FononZero Is Emilia a witch? The issue is answered on episode 8. @moodie Why did Emilia call herself Satella in episode 1? The issue is answered on episode 8. @Tony_SansNom Satella is so popular. Why would anyone not know about the popular and hated Satella? Even the CG commoners of episode 2 know about Satella. So it's safe to assume that Subaru also knows it. Why would Subaru not know about Satella if he lives in a fantasy world? Because he doesn't. The risk of danger is only for those who does not originally live in the fantasy world. What do you imply about the danger Subaru may get? Well... the moment she realises he does not know about Satella and keeps calling her that, instead of running away, she should have told him "by the way, I am not called Satella, so don't ever say you're helping Satella to anyone or you'll get into trouble". If she used this name in order to scare him away to avoid him getting into danger, then clearing the lie/misunderstanding should also be a priority. |
| "Vaut mieux se suffire à soi que finir assoiffé dans le monde des apparences." |
FononZero said: Also a brief bit of info that some of guys might find interesting....? Subaru's name is the Japanese name for Pleiades, which is known as the seven sisters (in this case, witches)... however, of these seven sisters, one is invisible (Satella). While usually you could count it off as a coincidence, there are just too many coincidences. Beatrice's explanation of the witch's story directly aligns with what we know about Subaru's name. I'm barging in but it's exactly what I thought when I heard Beatrice's explanation. |
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| can this forum get back to life now that the 3rd arc began |
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hikiru said: can this forum get back to life now that the 3rd arc began We don't know much more that can make this topic interesting again and we already discussed the points we already know.... |
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Tony_SansNom said: hikiru said: can this forum get back to life now that the 3rd arc began We don't know much more that can make this topic interesting again and we already discussed the points we already know.... other people can share their own theories |
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| I apologise if I'm troubling anyone by posting on a thread which has been dormant for so long. But I'd like to present a different perspective. Here's my speculations: 1. We're giving too much credit to Emilia. All events up until now are a conspiracy. I'm going with the usual corrupted capital theory 2. Roswaal is extremely powerful and he is shady. As far as we know, he has no reason to help Emilia. He is not a relative, and how does he know Emilia anyway? Roswaal reacted when he knew that bowel hunter was after Emilia which means he knows the Bowel hunter and many others like her. He might even have connections to the jealous witch and might be working for her or against her. 3. The king and his family mysteriously disappeared/died for God's sake why are we ignoring such a grave fact? I suspect Roswaal knows the truth. This might be the work of some organisation who might be pulling the strings from the shadows. Perhaps they are affiliated to the jealous witch working to resurrect Satella by using Emilia as a vessel. 4. Puck is unrealistically loyal to Emilia. And why haven't we shown how they met each other? Perhaps because they couldn't. Maybe Puck originally served Satella and left her because he hated her and now stays with Emilia to protect her from falling into Satella's traps. 5. So perhaps, Emilia might just be an airhead being unknowingly used for some grand evil scheme. These all are of course my own thoughts which I thought were interesting and so I wanted to share. I am most probably wrong. I've ignored many facts like Emilia's resemblance to Satella and the reason for Subaru's need to be in Lugnia. It probably was Satella who summoned Subaru and yet Subaru is the one who can actually destroy Satella's plan. So in whose interest is it for Subaru to be here? Roswaal seemed to be getting along quite well with him. Or maybe Subaru's just a pawn. |
FononZero said: SHOU_1 said: I apologise if I'm troubling anyone by posting on a thread which has been dormant for so long. But I'd like to present a different perspective. Here's my speculations: 1. We're giving too much credit to Emilia. All events up until now are a conspiracy. I'm going with the usual corrupted capital theory 2. Roswaal is extremely powerful and he is shady. As far as we know, he has no reason to help Emilia. He is not a relative, and how does he know Emilia anyway? Roswaal reacted when he knew that bowel hunter was after Emilia which means he knows the Bowel hunter and many others like her. He might even have connections to the jealous witch and might be working for her or against her. 3. The king and his family mysteriously disappeared/died for God's sake why are we ignoring such a grave fact? I suspect Roswaal knows the truth. This might be the work of some organisation who might be pulling the strings from the shadows. Perhaps they are affiliated to the jealous witch working to resurrect Satella by using Emilia as a vessel. 4. Puck is unrealistically loyal to Emilia. And why haven't we shown how they met each other? Perhaps because they couldn't. Maybe Puck originally served Satella and left her because he hated her and now stays with Emilia to protect her from falling into Satella's traps. 5. So perhaps, Emilia might just be an airhead being unknowingly used for some grand evil scheme. These all are of course my own thoughts which I thought were interesting and so I wanted to share. I am most probably wrong. I've ignored many facts like Emilia's resemblance to Satella and the reason for Subaru's need to be in Lugnia. It probably was Satella who summoned Subaru and yet Subaru is the one who can actually destroy Satella's plan. So in whose interest is it for Subaru to be here? Roswaal seemed to be getting along quite well with him. Or maybe Subaru's just a pawn. One thing that is interesting about Roswaal / Elsa comment... is that if he does in fact know Elsa, then there is a very high chance that he also knows the person who controls the majuu. As Reinhardt said, Elsa's blades come from the northern provinces. And according to Beatrice, the curses came from the north. It also is very odd that after Subaru solved the mystery of the curses, that was when Roswaal decided to take a small business trip away from the mansion. But as for Emilia, I'm pretty much 99% convinced that Satella is there in her body as well (going by my own theories and hints given). She just can't take over her body because she was sealed by the dragon... Which brings up another issue... As you mentioned, how does he know Emilia? And why does he want to help her? If you check at the end of ep11, Roswaal even says that his goal is to kill the dragon. But if he kills the dragon, won't that let Satella out? I don't think Emilia is being used as a vessel to resurrect Satella, since Satella cannot die. :P On top of that, according to Beatrice, Satella body cannot weaken either. So maybe the seal isn't an actual seal, but a rather a new entity (Emilia) being placed upon her body? This would also go along with the theory that Emilia looks like the jealous witch, and how Subaru got shinimodori by touching Satella's (Emilia's) hand. I think that is the biggest hint because that hand scene was shown multiple times in episode 0 or episode 1... can't remember which one. I came up with another bit of theory. Don't you find all the candidates for the throne a bit odd? No one has any valid reason to become the ruler, none seem all that intelligent and neither look hardworking. And why did Reinhardt insist for Felt to enter the selections without an explanation? Perhaps because they're like 'the chosen ones'. Maybe they have something within them. Which would support your theory of Satella being inside of Emilia and maybe the other candidates have someone inside them too |
SHOU_1 said: FononZero said: One thing that is interesting about Roswaal / Elsa comment... is that if he does in fact know Elsa, then there is a very high chance that he also knows the person who controls the majuu. As Reinhardt said, Elsa's blades come from the northern provinces. And according to Beatrice, the curses came from the north. It also is very odd that after Subaru solved the mystery of the curses, that was when Roswaal decided to take a small business trip away from the mansion. But as for Emilia, I'm pretty much 99% convinced that Satella is there in her body as well (going by my own theories and hints given). She just can't take over her body because she was sealed by the dragon... Which brings up another issue... As you mentioned, how does he know Emilia? And why does he want to help her? If you check at the end of ep11, Roswaal even says that his goal is to kill the dragon. But if he kills the dragon, won't that let Satella out? I don't think Emilia is being used as a vessel to resurrect Satella, since Satella cannot die. :P On top of that, according to Beatrice, Satella body cannot weaken either. So maybe the seal isn't an actual seal, but a rather a new entity (Emilia) being placed upon her body? This would also go along with the theory that Emilia looks like the jealous witch, and how Subaru got shinimodori by touching Satella's (Emilia's) hand. I think that is the biggest hint because that hand scene was shown multiple times in episode 0 or episode 1... can't remember which one. I came up with another bit of theory. Don't you find all the candidates for the throne a bit odd? No one has any valid reason to become the ruler, none seem all that intelligent and neither look hardworking. And why did Reinhardt insist for Felt to enter the selections without an explanation? Perhaps because they're like 'the chosen ones'. Maybe they have something within them. Which would support your theory of Satella being inside of Emilia and maybe the other candidates have someone inside them too I'm not sure that bit about them not being intelligent. Some of tbem are eccentric yes, but all these people save for Emilia and Felt had had a lot of notoriety even before they were chosen. Unforuately the anime cut out that infomation. That said their past are irrevkaant to their canduadcy because the Dragon was the one to pick them out to start with based on his critera. |
DaShiztz said: Has anyone commented on the episode where Subaru put his head on Emilia's lap? Did you see the "flashbacks" shown on screen? Before reading this thread, and with no prior knowledge of the season, I suspected Emilia as a witch. Think it's just Subaru remembering these things. |
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