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Feb 25, 2016 6:35 PM

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Fudo-sama said:
GUYS, killing intent is actually a scent thing. I remember reading about this a while back, when people are trying to kill, they usually emit some kind of hormone that gives off a barely detectable scent. You can't even really smell it, but your subconcious brain picks up on it and tells you to move. It's a real thing, look it up.


Pheromones to be exact.

Due to the nature of pheromones, it depends on the direction of the wind, and distance. (Particularly the distance is where anime tends to exaggerate) Subconsciously, it is possible for all humans to detect "killing intent", to actually consciously detect it you'd have to be born with the predisposition, or train it. Training, would probably take years, and a lot of experience. The easiest example being, soldiers knowing an ambush is coming despite any clear signal. I guess that can be put off as "experience". While hunting you try to avoid killing an animal in the direction of the wind due to the same reasons.

Being able to emit "killing intent"? Now that's probably more in the realm of fiction, as emitting pheromones tends to be something we do subconsciously. Is it impossible? Probably not, but very very rare.

Regarding chi/chakra, it's mostly attributed to being able to feel the bio-electromagnetic field humans emit. Well, there are many theories, but in regards to being able to sense emotions, that has been shown to be rather hard to prove with science. One thing is for sure though, certain humans are able to do incredible things through sheer willpower and concentration. Again, if it's really due to the magnetic field of humans; the distance is often highly exaggerated in anime.
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_Ghost_ said:
Fudo-sama said:
GUYS, killing intent is actually a scent thing. I remember reading about this a while back, when people are trying to kill, they usually emit some kind of hormone that gives off a barely detectable scent. You can't even really smell it, but your subconcious brain picks up on it and tells you to move. It's a real thing, look it up.


Pheromones to be exact.

Due to the nature of pheromones, it depends on the direction of the wind, and distance. (Particularly the distance is where anime tends to exaggerate) Subconsciously, it is possible for all humans to detect "killing intent", to actually consciously detect it you'd have to be born with the predisposition, or train it. Training, would probably take years, and a lot of experience. The easiest example being, soldiers knowing an ambush is coming despite any clear signal. I guess that can be put off as "experience". While hunting you try to avoid killing an animal in the direction of the wind due to the same reasons.

Being able to emit "killing intent"? Now that's probably more in the realm of fiction, as emitting pheromones tends to be something we do subconsciously. Is it impossible? Probably not, but very very rare.

Regarding chi/chakra, it's mostly attributed to being able to feel the bio-electromagnetic field humans emit. Well, there are many theories, but in regards to being able to sense emotions, that has been shown to be rather hard to prove with science. One thing is for sure though, certain humans are able to do incredible things through sheer willpower and concentration. Again, if it's really due to the magnetic field of humans; the distance is often highly exaggerated in anime.
Right on, and one interesting thing to note about chakra, it might work off a mechanic we don't even know of yet. Studies on Tibetan monks show that during meditation, high level meditators can control their body temperature at will. No one's really sure how this happens. Just goes to show there's a lot about the brain we still don't know about.

Feb 25, 2016 10:47 PM

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read any memoir by a serial killer.its pretty real
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Fudo-sama said:
_Ghost_ said:


Pheromones to be exact.

Due to the nature of pheromones, it depends on the direction of the wind, and distance. (Particularly the distance is where anime tends to exaggerate) Subconsciously, it is possible for all humans to detect "killing intent", to actually consciously detect it you'd have to be born with the predisposition, or train it. Training, would probably take years, and a lot of experience. The easiest example being, soldiers knowing an ambush is coming despite any clear signal. I guess that can be put off as "experience". While hunting you try to avoid killing an animal in the direction of the wind due to the same reasons.

Being able to emit "killing intent"? Now that's probably more in the realm of fiction, as emitting pheromones tends to be something we do subconsciously. Is it impossible? Probably not, but very very rare.

Regarding chi/chakra, it's mostly attributed to being able to feel the bio-electromagnetic field humans emit. Well, there are many theories, but in regards to being able to sense emotions, that has been shown to be rather hard to prove with science. One thing is for sure though, certain humans are able to do incredible things through sheer willpower and concentration. Again, if it's really due to the magnetic field of humans; the distance is often highly exaggerated in anime.
Right on, and one interesting thing to note about chakra, it might work off a mechanic we don't even know of yet. Studies on Tibetan monks show that during meditation, high level meditators can control their body temperature at will. No one's really sure how this happens. Just goes to show there's a lot about the brain we still don't know about.


AKB0048 had an episode full of pheromones...but not the killing intent kind.
"Am I giving off pheromones??" It's even in her character page.
http://myanimelist.net/character/53433/Mimori_Kishida
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Fudo-sama said:
Right on, and one interesting thing to note about chakra, it might work off a mechanic we don't even know of yet. Studies on Tibetan monks show that during meditation, high level meditators can control their body temperature at will. No one's really sure how this happens. Just goes to show there's a lot about the brain we still don't know about.

You're exaggerating. Controlling your body's temperature is pretty much the same thing as controlling your breathing - just a bunch of muscles that usually work fine on their own and don't ask for our attention. With "biofeedback" techniques it's not that hard to learn to control such things.
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flannan said:
Fudo-sama said:
Right on, and one interesting thing to note about chakra, it might work off a mechanic we don't even know of yet. Studies on Tibetan monks show that during meditation, high level meditators can control their body temperature at will. No one's really sure how this happens. Just goes to show there's a lot about the brain we still don't know about.

You're exaggerating. Controlling your body's temperature is pretty much the same thing as controlling your breathing - just a bunch of muscles that usually work fine on their own and don't ask for our attention. With "biofeedback" techniques it's not that hard to learn to control such things.
Oh, is that how it works? The article I read this study in said they weren't sure how it was done, just stated the info I was given. Interesting if it works how you said.

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Some people are very good at reading others, but it's not a definitive skill. People can be unpredictable, especially those that
got something to hide.

This person's right I think. It might not exist but body language and features can be used to notice it.


But people can very good at hiding it. I mean, Watkins wasn't a murderer but he was a dangerous criminal and no one saw it for years. A lot of people commit these crimes partly because they can, because they know people won't think they'll do it.
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Fudo-sama said:
flannan said:

You're exaggerating. Controlling your body's temperature is pretty much the same thing as controlling your breathing - just a bunch of muscles that usually work fine on their own and don't ask for our attention. With "biofeedback" techniques it's not that hard to learn to control such things.
Oh, is that how it works? The article I read this study in said they weren't sure how it was done, just stated the info I was given. Interesting if it works how you said.

Articles written by mystical people tend to exaggerate the mysteriousness of this world. Articles written by scientific people tend to undersell it.
In practice, there's still a lot of things that we don't really understand. But a lot of things we do understand. Just a few years ago somebody got an award for explaining why woodpeckers don't get a headache from all the woodpecking, yet we've known about the woodpeckers for a very long time!
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@flannan hahaha good example. I'm still interested on the topic of measuring this bio-electromagnetic field and if one could pick up on such a field / what the purpose of the field would be (e.g., intentions).
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Also you say in real life, so how about animals? I mean animals have a distinct superiority when it comes to detecting ill intent I believe.
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I think its real, its an instinct. I'm sure part of it has to do with body language as many others have said but you can sense hostility or at least most people can to a degree.
Its kind of like if you've ever been around people who act nice to you but you can just feel this feeling in your gut that they don't like you or you shouldn't trust them for some reason & then some point down the road it comes out that they never liked you to begin with, etc. I figure its gotta be that same feeling but rather then a feeling of somethings not right, your gut is probably telling you don't turn your back on this person, stay alert, etc.
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huronvalley said:
Also you say in real life, so how about animals? I mean animals have a distinct superiority when it comes to detecting ill intent I believe.


How come predators manage to eat, then?
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TheBrainintheJar said:
huronvalley said:
Also you say in real life, so how about animals? I mean animals have a distinct superiority when it comes to detecting ill intent I believe.


How come predators manage to eat, then?


Haha good point, but I was thinking more along the lines of the idea behind pets being good judges of characters (dogs, cats, etc.)
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Base from real life experience having been to a prison tour (dont ask why), all I can say is its heavily focused on the eyes and body movement in general though I dont think you can call it a "killing intent" per se but definitely a dangerous aura which can intimidate alot of people
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huronvalley said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


How come predators manage to eat, then?


Haha good point, but I was thinking more along the lines of the idea behind pets being good judges of characters (dogs, cats, etc.)


I think even the most horrible people have pets. Animals don't have a moral system. They cannot judge who is good and who is bad.
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Feb 28, 2016 5:41 AM

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Yes, it does.


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You can't feel it? Sounds like you need more training.


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huronvalley said:
Also you say in real life, so how about animals? I mean animals have a distinct superiority when it comes to detecting ill intent I believe.

Humans, with their overdeveloped brains, have a big advantage when it comes to sensing stuff, especially in the "pattern analysis" part. We're so good we sometimes see things that don't really exist (from shapes of the clouds to government conspiracies).

TheBrainintheJar said:
How come predators manage to eat, then?

Most of the time, animals detect predators before they strike. And even in time to run away. A predator that preys on mammals has to make a few tens of attempts before he actually catches anything.
Maybe it's better for stealth-based predators, like owls, but it's hard to measure (because owls are damn stealthy in the night!).
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flannan said:
huronvalley said:
Also you say in real life, so how about animals? I mean animals have a distinct superiority when it comes to detecting ill intent I believe.

Humans, with their overdeveloped brains, have a big advantage when it comes to sensing stuff, especially in the "pattern analysis" part. We're so good we sometimes see things that don't really exist (from shapes of the clouds to government conspiracies).

TheBrainintheJar said:
How come predators manage to eat, then?

Most of the time, animals detect predators before they strike. And even in time to run away. A predator that preys on mammals has to make a few tens of attempts before he actually catches anything.
Maybe it's better for stealth-based predators, like owls, but it's hard to measure (because owls are damn stealthy in the night!).


'Predator' doesn't equal 'immoral'. Can an animal detect someone who's a thief, a child molester, a manipulative asshole, a boss who exploits his workers?
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TheBrainintheJar said:
flannan said:

Humans, with their overdeveloped brains, have a big advantage when it comes to sensing stuff, especially in the "pattern analysis" part. We're so good we sometimes see things that don't really exist (from shapes of the clouds to government conspiracies).


Most of the time, animals detect predators before they strike. And even in time to run away. A predator that preys on mammals has to make a few tens of attempts before he actually catches anything.
Maybe it's better for stealth-based predators, like owls, but it's hard to measure (because owls are damn stealthy in the night!).


'Predator' doesn't equal 'immoral'. Can an animal detect someone who's a thief, a child molester, a manipulative asshole, a boss who exploits his workers?


Well I agree with you due to the lack of a higher intelligence, but what about people saying that "animals are good judges of character?" (usually referring to pets).
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huronvalley said:
Well I agree with you due to the lack of a higher intelligence, but what about people saying that "animals are good judges of character?" (usually referring to pets).

Pets might not be great at judging a human's character, but humans are less likely to pretend to be good when dealing with a pet. Thus making it easier for the pet.
They might also be good at picking up smell-based cues.
But overall, I wouldn't trust a pet's judgement too much.
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huronvalley said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


'Predator' doesn't equal 'immoral'. Can an animal detect someone who's a thief, a child molester, a manipulative asshole, a boss who exploits his workers?


Well I agree with you due to the lack of a higher intelligence, but what about people saying that "animals are good judges of character?" (usually referring to pets).


How can you prove pets are good judges of character? Do pets understand the concept of morality? Can you explain to them why a boss paying below minimum wage is bad, or why stealing is bad?
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No, but if someone is looking at you like this...



...most people are going to figure it out pretty quickly.
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Being able to both detect and emit killing intent is a common theme in anime. Do you guys think such a thing exists in real life?


Watch LiveLeak ISIS Beheaded vids...and then, tell me that intent to kill doesn't exist....
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TheBrainintheJar said:
huronvalley said:


Well I agree with you due to the lack of a higher intelligence, but what about people saying that "animals are good judges of character?" (usually referring to pets).


How can you prove pets are good judges of character? Do pets understand the concept of morality? Can you explain to them why a boss paying below minimum wage is bad, or why stealing is bad?


I'm not talking about immorality vs. morality... Just the basis of predator vs. prey, Knowing that someone or something has the intention to harm or kill... I believe animals can detect such an intent as well as humans too. Now the method of doing so I don't know. Morality vs immorality is a different topic. Hell some people don't even know morality vs. immorality.
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flannan said:
huronvalley said:
Well I agree with you due to the lack of a higher intelligence, but what about people saying that "animals are good judges of character?" (usually referring to pets).

Pets might not be great at judging a human's character, but humans are less likely to pretend to be good when dealing with a pet. Thus making it easier for the pet.
They might also be good at picking up smell-based cues.
But overall, I wouldn't trust a pet's judgement too much.


True I wouldn't trust in it either; just asking what others think on this topic. You hear people all the time say that their pet is a good sense of character if it doesn't like a person or what not.
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Natural instinct? But I'm guessing killing intent is like some bullshit aura that is so strong that the ground shakes.
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huronvalley said:
TheBrainintheJar said:


How can you prove pets are good judges of character? Do pets understand the concept of morality? Can you explain to them why a boss paying below minimum wage is bad, or why stealing is bad?


I'm not talking about immorality vs. morality... Just the basis of predator vs. prey, Knowing that someone or something has the intention to harm or kill... I believe animals can detect such an intent as well as humans too. Now the method of doing so I don't know. Morality vs immorality is a different topic. Hell some people don't even know morality vs. immorality.


Humans definitely don't have this ability. A lot of killers, rapists and other such people got away with their crimes for a long time. Human beings aren't ordinary predators. We don't chase our food but raise it. This is very different.
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Kruszer said:
No, but if someone is looking at you like this...



...most people are going to figure it out pretty quickly.

Out of the topic. Who is this character?
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Deago said:
Out of the topic. Who is this character?
It's Rena from the Higurashi series.
I'm also filled with pure-hearted ulterior motives.

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Nope. You can't project intent like my forum sig can.

Aura doesn't even exist. lol
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Deago said:
Out of the topic. Who is this character?
It's Rena from the Higurashi series.

Thank you...!
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Deago said:
CrappyGod-sama said:
It's Rena from the Higurashi series.

Thank you...!
*Add the anime to my PTW*

If you're looking for good horror/mystery show you will probably like it. Just as a heads up, the franchise does kind of an odd thing. It is told in separate story arcs. Each arc is separate story and presents an unsolved mystery. The first season has all the "question arcs" so on it's own it doesn't make much sense. The second series Higurashi no Naku Koroni Kai consists of all the "answer arcs" and solves all the mysteries posed by the first series.
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From experience, I have encountered people that can express a dangerous enough aura that one may describe it as a "killing intent".

Just by a look one can sense it, the cold look of one who is more than capable of taking your life without a second of hesitation.

If you encounter such a thing in your lifetime, you aren't likely to get away alive from it.

I managed to survive it, but not without repercussions. I still deal with the trauma of the event. When a fiend like that has such a tight enough grasp upon your neck and looks you in the eyes and says

"I could easily end your life right now, I could crush you so easily and without even breaking a sweat, and no one would give a crap about you being dead, you're just lucky enough that I have decided not to kill you today..."

It's terrifying!

Plus since I'm double majoring in the Criminal Justice Field as well Psychology, I've studied body language thoroughly enough to be able to detect these detestable beings.

All in all my opinion on the matter is that "Killing Intent" is a real life phenomenon.
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I read somewhere that when meeting a psychopath theres a brief room of a few seconds when we feel pure fear and it disappears after that.


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n00t said:
Being able to both detect and emit killing intent is a common theme in anime. Do you guys think such a thing exists in real life?
yea I do think this exist really cuz when you but you first need to kill someone to emit such aura if u get to know the feeling of killing someone you can emit such aura
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n00t said:
Being able to both detect and emit killing intent is a common theme in anime. Do you guys think such a thing exists in real life?
yea I do think this exist really cuz when you but you first need to kill someone to emit such aura if u get to know the feeling of killing someone you can emit such aura
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I think it exists. It's probably on the same level as how you feel when you are glared at by someone. You feel the violent impulse aimed towards you.
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