| Say you get the opportunity to live in a world of magic, as opposed to the world of science we currently live in. In this world impossible miracles can happen, but due to a lack of science we are living in what is akin to the Medieval Ages. That means no video games, no internet, no electricity, no medicine, and a bunch of other useful things are missing. Since this is not a world of science, the world is almost entirely theist too. While medicine doesn't exist, healing magic does almost as good a job and the occasional miracle does happen. Guns don't exist either, which means any fighting will depend upon your strength or magical abilities alone. So a lot of things are a trade off. |
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| Uhm... Why the midieval ages? Magic does not have to associate with what was probably the shittiest age humans have ever been through. (besides the caveman times, but nobody was competent enough to realize their lives were shit back then.) I'd live in the world of science because pulling a rabbit out of a hat ain't that cool. |
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| The kid inside me tells me that i should pack my things and take the magic world express |
I shall live a hundred lives in a thousand worlds |
| Science... Can I magic to the moon? Yeah thought not. |
| I have really funny thoughts that no one will get to hear. |
TonyTin said: Uhm... Why the midieval ages? Magic does not have to associate to what was probably the shittiest age humans have ever been through. No, it wasnt. Stop believing Renaissance Propaganda. It was no worst than any pre-industrial period and in several ways it was better than most. |
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TonyTin said: Uhm... Why the midieval ages? Magic does not have to associate to what was probably the shittiest age humans have ever been through. The Medieval Ages lacked electricity, guns, and a bunch of other things we have thanks to science, but humans had made enough progress to build castles and cities. That's why I chose that age. |
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| everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life |
| Science FTW. |
| Are you saying a world dominated by modern technology or actually the empirical definition of science? The former I would understand, however the latter I think is a natural occurring process in the social evolution of humanity. In other words, to dispense of the latter would mean to alter how humans interact socially. Also, there are other forms of religion that were common prior to the province of modern scientific inquiry. Anyways, if the context you presented for magic was altered I would consider choosing magic just for curiosity's sake. However, as it stands now I would lean towards science. |
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| I'd rather live in the best of both worlds like in Index. |
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| Impossible miracles can happen? So I could still have the internet and everything else I love without science then. It's a miracle. |
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| Why not both? Why not neither? I couldn't imagine being in a backwards time, where opinions are even stupider than they are right now. Plus, magic doesn't cure cancer. If it can't cure cancer, then it can go cancer itself. |
| The grass is always greener on the other side of the fence. |
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Citizeninsane said: Are you saying a world dominated by modern technology or actually the empirical definition of science? The former I would understand, however the latter I think is a natural occurring process in the social evolution of humanity. In other words, to dispense of the latter would mean to alter how humans interact socially. Also, there are other forms of religion that were common prior to the province of modern scientific inquiry. Anyways, if the context you presented for magic was altered I would consider choosing magic just for curiosity's sake. However, as it stands now I would lean towards science. I suppose it would be safest to say I'm talking about a world dominated by modern technology. In this scenario humans have progressed enough to build horse drawn carriages, the bow and arrow, and other forms of technology found in the medieval ages, but science will never progress beyond that. Also some technology doesn't exist at all(most notably medicine), because magic has taken its place. Magic will progress in this world though, so it's not as if nothing will change. |
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dankickyou said: Please explain. What can be absolutely worse than the Black Death? Corrupt aristocrats? Getting burned at the stake if you looked at the religion with a funny face? The endless bloodshed that were the crusades (Especially the children's crusade)? The freakin romans actually gave women more rights (Unless the women in the midieval ages were of noble status.). Although death rates are lower than previous periods of time, it was a shit place, emotionally and physically, looking at how the society works. Your average European history teacher may have said that the middle ages being shit was all Renaissance propaganda, but I still believe that was absolutely the worst period of time to be alive in.TonyTin said: Uhm... Why the midieval ages? Magic does not have to associate to what was probably the shittiest age humans have ever been through. No, it wasnt. Stop believing Renaissance Propaganda. It was no worst than any pre-industrial period and in several ways it was better than most. Higurashi said: I think building castles would require a great deal of understanding physics and architecture. In other words, science.TonyTin said: Uhm... Why the midieval ages? Magic does not have to associate to what was probably the shittiest age humans have ever been through. The Medieval Ages lacked electricity, guns, and a bunch of other things we have thanks to science, but humans had made enough progress to build castles and cities. That's why I chose that age. |
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Higurashi said: I suppose it would be safest to say I'm talking about a world dominated by modern technology. In this scenario humans have progressed enough to build horse drawn carriages, the bow and arrow, and other forms of technology found in the medieval ages, but science will never progress beyond that. Also some technology doesn't exist at all(most notably medicine), because magic has taken its place. Magic will progress in this world though, so it's not as if nothing will change. thats like...Ancient inventions :/ |
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| So that would mean that there is no twitter, youtube, and facebook? I would choose a world of science any day. With science, you are given the ability to emulate a world of magic through technology. We have movies based on the whole concept of magic, video games, books and stories, etc. Magic can already exist in our fantasies. |
| I wonder what kind of jobs we would have if the world runs purely on magic. What would be the magic counterpart of a computer programmer, I'm curious. A world of magic seems nice at first glace, with resuts being delivered at a flick of a wand. But I can already see myself lazing around all day in that scenario. Everything seems less enjoyable, the novelty wears off after a while. So science still. |
TonyTin said: So not a whole lot changed then, really.Please explain. What can be absolutely worse than the Black Death? Corrupt aristocrats? Getting burned at the stake if you looked at the religion with a funny face? The endless bloodshed that were the crusades |
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Higurashi said: ...but science will never progress beyond that. What you are explaining is not accurately describing the medieval period in its entirety however. It was the case in continental europe, however during this period there was an Islamic golden age, which is why I brought up my earlier point, I find your dichotomy of science vs religion/magic to be dubious. "During this period the Arab world became an intellectual center for science, philosophy, medicine and education; the Abbasids championed the cause of knowledge and established the House of Wisdom (Bait-ul-Hikmat) at Baghdad[3], where both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars sought to translate and gather all the world's knowledge into Arabic." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age |
TonyTin said: Please explain. What can be absolutely worse than the Black Death? Corrupt aristocrats? Getting burned at the stake if you looked at the religion with a funny face? The endless bloodshed that were the crusades (Especially the children's crusade)? The freakin romans actually gave women more rights (Unless the women in the midieval ages were of noble status.). Although death rates are lower than previous periods of time, it was a shit place, emotionally and physically, looking at how the society works. Your average European history teacher may have said that the middle ages being shit was all Renaissance propaganda, but I still believe that was absolutely the worst period of time to be alive in. 1.Plagues were just as bad in the Ancient World and the modern period :/ The “Third Pandemic” killed 12 million + people in Asian during the 1850s. The Justinian Plague that ravaged the Eastern Roman Empire, the plagues that massacred the Native Americans in the early modern period, etc 2.Do you know when burnings and witch hunting were at their most active? 1600s post Renaissance so called age of enlightenment. They also had tons more of religious wars during this post medieval period. The 30 years war makes the Crusades look small in comparison. 3. Medieval women had the right to own land, run businesses, join guilds, and gain an inheritance. They had more rights than women of the early modern period and the ancients who considered women to be "failed men" You obviously learned your history from popular culture instead of history books :/ |
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RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. |
| You mean... Like Hogwarts and stuff ?? Magic over Internet any day !! |
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Chakaara said: You mean... Like Hogwarts and stuff ?? Magic over Internet any day !! I thought the internet was magic... |
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Maor said: Chakaara said: You mean... Like Hogwarts and stuff ?? Magic over Internet any day !! I thought the internet was magic... No, you're thinking of shame and delinquency. |
paper-dreams said: I wonder what kind of jobs we would have if the world runs purely on magic. What would be the magic counterpart of a computer programmer, I'm curious. A world of magic seems nice at first glace, with resuts being delivered at a flick of a wand. But I can already see myself lazing around all day in that scenario. Everything seems less enjoyable, the novelty wears off after a while. So science still. alchemist. |
Secondviennese said: Maor said: Chakaara said: You mean... Like Hogwarts and stuff ?? Magic over Internet any day !! I thought the internet was magic... No, you're thinking of shame and delinquency. Sounds magical to me. |
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| A world of science progresses and evolves, while a world of magic usually stays the same. |
| In another life I wouldn't mind and would love to try. But not in this life. |
Danielcookie said: A world of science progresses and evolves, while a world of magic usually stays the same. You know this because you have been to a world of magic? or at least studied the nature of magic? :/ |
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Citizeninsane said: What you are explaining is not accurately describing the medieval period in its entirety however. It was the case in continental europe, however during this period there was an Islamic golden age, which is why I brought up my earlier point, I find your dichotomy of science vs religion/magic to be dubious. "During this period the Arab world became an intellectual center for science, philosophy, medicine and education; the Abbasids championed the cause of knowledge and established the House of Wisdom (Bait-ul-Hikmat) at Baghdad[3], where both Muslim and non-Muslim scholars sought to translate and gather all the world's knowledge into Arabic." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_Golden_Age I was thinking mainly of Europe. I didn't know there was an Arab Golden Age. I wasn't thinking of the Medieval Age itself, though. Just a world about as technologically advanced as it that never progresses scientifically. |
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Higurashi said: Say you get the opportunity to live in a world of magic, as opposed to the world of science we currently live in. In this world impossible miracles can happen, but due to a lack of science we are living in what is akin to the Medieval Ages. That means no video games, no internet, no electricity, no medicine, and a bunch of other useful things are missing. Since this is not a world of science, the world is almost entirely theist too. While medicine doesn't exist, healing magic does almost as good a job and the occasional miracle does happen. Guns don't exist either, which means any fighting will depend upon your strength or magical abilities alone. So a lot of things are a trade off. I'd rather not die from Chickenpox or Smallpox In the science world, we have vaccines that would create antibodies from fatal diseases. |
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SOExclusive said: I'd rather not die from Chickenpox or Smallpox In the science world, we have vaccines that would create antibodies from fatal diseases. In the magic world we have cure-alls and amulets with +6 disease resistance. In the science world your antibiotics are only effective for so long. |
Secondviennese said: SOExclusive said: I'd rather not die from Chickenpox or Smallpox In the science world, we have vaccines that would create antibodies from fatal diseases. In the magic world we have cure-alls and amulets with +6 disease resistance. In the science your antibiotics are only effective for so long. Make sense. I'm definitely going medieval. Heck, I would go medieval even if they weren't any magic. :v |
dankickyouJun 26, 2013 12:16 PM
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Danielcookie said: A world of science progresses and evolves, while a world of magic usually stays the same. Department of Mysteries, they experiment a lot of new magical stuff in there, magic evolves. |
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Secondviennese said: SOExclusive said: I'd rather not die from Chickenpox or Smallpox In the science world, we have vaccines that would create antibodies from fatal diseases. In the magic world we have cure-alls and amulets with +6 disease resistance. In the science world your antibiotics are only effective for so long. So I drink some magic whiskey and put on a necklace and I would be all cured. Thats sounds awesome |
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dankickyou said: 1.Plagues were just as bad in the Ancient World and the modern period :/ The “Third Pandemic” killed 12 million + people in Asian during the 1850s. The Justinian Plague that ravaged the Eastern Roman Empire, the plagues that massacred the Native Americans in the early modern period, etc 2.Do you know when burnings and witch hunting were at their most active? 1600s post Renaissance so called age of enlightenment. They also had tons more of religious wars during this post medieval period. The 30 years war makes the Crusades look small in comparison. 3. Medieval women had the right to own land, run businesses, join guilds, and gain an inheritance. They had more rights than women of the early modern period and the ancients who considered women to be "failed men" 1. The "Third Pandemic" is only a fraction of the 75~200 death estimate that was the bubonic plague. I haven't studied the Justinian plague but Wikipedia says a "high" estimate of 25 million. 2. My previous post never referred to witch hunts. BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT BURNING AT THE STAKE WAS AN EXECUTION MADE NOT JUST FOR WITCHES SMART GUY??? And your religion wars statement is only reenforcing that the middle ages were shit. I only referred to the Crusades because everybody at least has general knowledge of it and how it refers to the Middle ages. 3. You got me there. I just remembered the Greeks treated women like shit. But still dankickyou said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the high horse snob.You obviously learned your history from popular culture instead of history books :/ |
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| how about both like in to aru majutsu no index XD |
Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens |
RandomChampion said: We're already a step closer with Roxxxy and these Miku holograms. Get ready to see a thousand Asunas walking around.Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens |
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RandomChampion said: Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens The "Chobits" anime, shows what will become of our future. It will become reality. They already have sex products that are made and feel just like the real thing. |
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TonyTin said: RandomChampion said: We're already a step closer with Roxxxy and these Miku holograms. Get ready to see a thousand Asunas walking around.Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens SOExclusive said: RandomChampion said: Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens The "Chobits" anime, shows what will become of our future. It will become reality. They already have sex products that are made and feel just like the real thing. i have no clue what you guys are talking about lol not sure if i want to know either lol |
TonyTin said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the trusty barded steed snob. ftfy RandomChampion said: hopefully im not around by the time that happens Don't you want to see her happy? |
TonyTin said: RandomChampion said: We're already a step closer with Roxxxy and these Miku holograms. Get ready to see a thousand Asunas walking around.Secondviennese said: RandomChampion said: everybody here is going to choose magic so that they can turn their waifus into real life Oh boy are you going to feel so stupid when science gets there first. hopefully im not around by the time that happens That'd be quite the sight, glad i don't live in japan. |
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TonyTin said: dankickyou said: 1.Plagues were just as bad in the Ancient World and the modern period :/ The “Third Pandemic” killed 12 million + people in Asian during the 1850s. The Justinian Plague that ravaged the Eastern Roman Empire, the plagues that massacred the Native Americans in the early modern period, etc 2.Do you know when burnings and witch hunting were at their most active? 1600s post Renaissance so called age of enlightenment. They also had tons more of religious wars during this post medieval period. The 30 years war makes the Crusades look small in comparison. 3. Medieval women had the right to own land, run businesses, join guilds, and gain an inheritance. They had more rights than women of the early modern period and the ancients who considered women to be "failed men" 1. The "Third Pandemic" is only a fraction of the 75~200 death estimate that was the bubonic plague. I haven't studied the Justinian plague but Wikipedia says a "high" estimate of 25 million. 2. My previous post never referred to witch hunts. BUT DID YOU KNOW THAT BURNING AT THE STAKE WAS AN EXECUTION MADE NOT JUST FOR WITCHES SMART GUY??? And your religion wars statement is only reenforcing that the middle ages were shit. I only referred to the Crusades because everybody at least has general knowledge of it and how it refers to the Middle ages. 3. You got me there. I just remembered the Greeks treated women like shit. But still dankickyou said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the high horse snob.You obviously learned your history from popular culture instead of history books :/ The existence of the black Death is not a result of the medieval period it just happened to occur at its worst in the 14th century. Burnings in general for heresy become the in thing during the early modern period. The 30 year war was not medieval. It was post-Renaissance, early modern and I am using it to showcase the terrible religious conflict that occurred AFTER the medieval period which also include a number of religious conflicts like the French Wars of Religion. Stop misunderstanding my points :P If we look to the past, the Romans rarely passed a single decade without some kind of war or massacre or civil unrest not to mention the entire empire was build on the backs of slaves and somehow its the big bad medievals who are truly evul. If thats not Renaissance propaganda, I dont know what is. :/ Dont get your panties in a knot, Sally. :v |
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Secondviennese said: TonyTin said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the trusty barded steed snob. ftfy RandomChampion said: hopefully im not around by the time that happens Don't you want to see her happy? i am one of those fraud otakus who doesnt have a waifu i got no 2D game |
RandomChampion said: Secondviennese said: TonyTin said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the trusty barded steed snob. ftfy RandomChampion said: hopefully im not around by the time that happens Don't you want to see her happy? i am one of those fraud otakus who doesnt have a waifu i got no 2D game I bet you kiss real girls too, queer. |
RandomChampion said: Secondviennese said: TonyTin said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the trusty barded steed snob. ftfy RandomChampion said: hopefully im not around by the time that happens Don't you want to see her happy? i am one of those fraud otakus who doesnt have a waifu i got no 2D game ^ I cant get a girlfriend, much less, a 2D waifu. |
Danielcookie said: RandomChampion said: Secondviennese said: TonyTin said: I got all this information from my European history class. Get off the trusty barded steed snob. ftfy RandomChampion said: hopefully im not around by the time that happens Don't you want to see her happy? i am one of those fraud otakus who doesnt have a waifu i got no 2D game ^ I cant get a girlfriend, much less, a 2D waifu. You can just tell a girl you like her. Don't even think twice about what she may think of you. You will find someone who is willing to give you a chance. After that you are on your own lol |
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