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Nov 3, 2010 6:26 PM

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Nov 3, 2010 6:31 PM

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axy_david said:
ummmmmm hentai=porn so totally NOT ok


Agreed
Nov 3, 2010 6:34 PM

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There is nothing wrong with teenagers watching pornography or hentai. I really don't think children should be watching it (children being 10 and under I suppose).
Nov 8, 2010 1:38 PM

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I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.
Nov 8, 2010 1:41 PM

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Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.

Well, it sort of depends on what you are watching the porn for. If someone is just trying to fap then they probably aren't looking for a story, while someone who is looking for a story... I don't even know why they would be watching porn for a story.
Nov 8, 2010 1:46 PM

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Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.


Personally, I think this is a blatant lie. I mean, who the heck goes to porn for a storyline?
Nov 8, 2010 1:52 PM

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Kipcha said:
Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.


Personally, I think this is a blatant lie. I mean, who the heck goes to porn for a storyline?

After thinking about it some more, Epic probably just likes it better when there's some point to the porn then just people screwing (usually provides good humor when they try to throw in a story). It's just a preference.
Nov 8, 2010 2:27 PM

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Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep
I disagree. Stretta is deep.
Nov 8, 2010 3:46 PM

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they have to watch it they need to learn the world around them
Nov 8, 2010 4:05 PM

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Kipcha said:
Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.


Personally, I think this is a blatant lie. I mean, who the heck goes to porn for a storyline?

both of u read My Lovely Ghost Kana and learn how deep a H manga could get and how important it is to have a story
Nov 8, 2010 4:56 PM

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Who cares if they watch it? Especially if they are teens.
Nov 8, 2010 4:57 PM
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My mentality of kids is that they should stay innocent and not be influenced by the cynical world out there. So yeah, I feel they shouldn't come in contact with hentai at all, and if they could help it, never.
Nov 8, 2010 5:09 PM

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OminousFlare said:
My mentality of kids is that they should stay innocent and not be influenced by the cynical world out there. So yeah, I feel they shouldn't come in contact with hentai at all, and if they could help it, never.


Since when does porn have to do with cynicism?
Nov 8, 2010 5:10 PM
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Drunk_Samurai said:
Since when does porn have to do with cynicism?

It doesn't. It's just one of those adult things I feel kids shouldn't have the need to know about yet. There's nothing wrong with ignorant bliss.
Nov 8, 2010 6:48 PM

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OminousFlare said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
Since when does porn have to do with cynicism?

It doesn't. It's just one of those adult things I feel kids shouldn't have the need to know about yet. There's nothing wrong with ignorant bliss.


You're talking like teens are kids too.
Nov 8, 2010 7:07 PM
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Drunk_Samurai said:
You're talking like teens are kids too.

I wasn't. By the time someone has reached teenagehood, it's obvious that he's lost most of the naivety he had as a kid, so it doesn't really matter if his impurities are further corrupted by hentai.

Not that sex is corrupted. Just that, I feel there are definitely better ways to learn about it than, say hentai and porn. Many of my friends don't watch hentai, and I think they are perfectly capable of picturing how the activity goes in bed.

Not that I'm one to talk. I'm the biggest hentai viewer amongst my friends. However, if I had a choice, I'd prefer to not have picked hentai or porn up in the first place. I could say it pretty much ruined my life. Not that I've committed any sexual crimes or anything crazy like that, but it's sure tiring to be tempted in masturbating off porn everyday.
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OminousFlare said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
You're talking like teens are kids too.

I wasn't. By the time someone has reached teenagehood, it's obvious that he's lost most of the naivety he had as a kid, so it doesn't really matter if his impurities are further corrupted by hentai.

Not that sex is corrupted. Just that, I feel there are definitely better ways to learn about it than, say hentai and porn. Many of my friends don't watch hentai, and I think they are perfectly capable of picturing how the activity goes in bed.

Not that I'm one to talk. I'm the biggest hentai viewer amongst my friends. However, if I had a choice, I'd prefer to not have picked hentai or porn up in the first place. I could say it pretty much ruined my life. Not that I've committed any sexual crimes or anything crazy like that, but it's sure tiring to be tempted in masturbating off porn everyday.


How is sex corrupted?
Nov 8, 2010 8:01 PM

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Hentai makes me like boobs even more. Kids watch porn, kids smoke weed, kids these days. They do whatever they want.
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Kipcha said:
Epicbrofist said:
I like watching hentai because of the stories. Sure, they aren't really... deep, but still better than the crappy porn we see every day. But hey, apparently the world doesn't like stories in their fap material.


Personally, I think this is a blatant lie. I mean, who the heck goes to porn for a storyline?


It true .. people watch hentai for desire ...
Nov 8, 2010 11:03 PM

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Children and H material should not mix.
Nov 9, 2010 6:20 AM

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i dont think its a bad thing..i watched hentai like i was 10 ( I DIDNT KNOW)

Nov 9, 2010 6:27 AM
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Drunk_Samurai said:


How is sex corrupted?

This
I guess this pretty much summaries the whole topic
I guess people need something to complaint everyday for the corrupted world that we live in( or is it? LoL )
Nov 9, 2010 6:42 AM
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MorningGlory said:
Drunk_Samurai said:


How is sex corrupted?

This
I guess this pretty much summaries the whole topic

*facepalms* One idiocy leads to another.

Drunk_Samurai was clearly missing my point. I clearly stated, "Not that sex is corrupted". It's not that sex is corrupted, it's hentai being an unnecessary item in our lives, as with pornography.
Nov 9, 2010 7:07 AM
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OminousFlare said:

Drunk_Samurai was clearly missing my point. I clearly stated, "Not that sex is corrupted". It's not that sex is corrupted, it's hentai being an unnecessary item in our lives, as with pornography.
No one can judge whether hentai is necessary or unnecessary because hentai is an entertainment that stimulate our sexual desire.I don't see what is the bad thing for a healthy man to enjoy a bit stimulation from pornography....
Of course pornography is bad if it overuse .
Nov 9, 2010 7:17 AM

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Well if kids watch it I don't really care, but of course,if, well about <10 year old kids watch some porn/hentai containing some hardcore rape and violence I don't think it's good. And well teenagers... almost all of them more or less watch porn
Nov 9, 2010 7:27 AM
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Well, I see nothing wrong with teens watching it(guilty as charged) but some little 6 year old who doesn't know what sex is shouldn't. When I grow up and have children, I don't my little kindergraden child talking about the cool thing they saw on the internet where "an octopus took a girls clothes off" or whatever. (I'm bad at thinking of how a small child would describe tenticle rape XD) However, if my teenager was talking about the awesome tenticle rape scene in an anime he(or maybe she!) saw in an anime.

However, considering I got my head chewed off for roleplaying yaoi... my mom would NOT apporve!
Nov 9, 2010 8:35 AM

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Surely ONLY kids and teens watch hentai anyway - not sure why anyone would prefer it over a) real pron b) real sex.

Unless you've got a real thing for tentacleraping schoolgirls...
Nov 9, 2010 10:37 AM

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OminousFlare said:
MorningGlory said:
Drunk_Samurai said:


How is sex corrupted?

This
I guess this pretty much summaries the whole topic

*facepalms* One idiocy leads to another.

Drunk_Samurai was clearly missing my point. I clearly stated, "Not that sex is corrupted". It's not that sex is corrupted, it's hentai being an unnecessary item in our lives, as with pornography.


Its pretty much is unnecessary....don't find point to it.
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OminousFlare said:
MorningGlory said:
Drunk_Samurai said:


How is sex corrupted?

This
I guess this pretty much summaries the whole topic

*facepalms* One idiocy leads to another.

Drunk_Samurai was clearly missing my point. I clearly stated, "Not that sex is corrupted". It's not that sex is corrupted, it's hentai being an unnecessary item in our lives, as with pornography.


So if somebody enjoys pornography and watches it a few times a week that means they are unnecessary wasting their life?
Nov 9, 2010 4:28 PM

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OminousFlare said:
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So if somebody enjoys pornography and watches it a few times a week that means they are unnecessary wasting their life?

I don't feel that porn is unnecessary because it wastes your life - I feel that porn is unnecessary because it deteriorates some people's lives, like booze and weed. Sure, it might seem like your fun is ruined just because some people could not control their temptations, but as far as having fun goes, I'd rather not have those temptations created in the first place, especially something as destructive as pornography.


Because obviously porno will destroy lives because everybody is the same. Pornography is no more destructive than somebody who is addicted to video games and plays them a lot.
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How about this then: if something does indeed bring harm to a community, isn't it more essential to remove the harm rather than keep its existence just for something as trivial as fun or, in this case, stimulation?
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OminousFlare said:
How about this then: if something does indeed bring harm to a community, isn't it more essential to remove the harm rather than keep its existence just for something as trivial as fun or, in this case, stimulation?


So somebody who goes on a rampage and shoots a bunch of people means violent video games should be banned?
Nov 9, 2010 6:11 PM
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Drunk_Samurai said:
So somebody who goes on a rampage and shoots a bunch of people means violent video games should be banned?

If there's evidence to show influence from videogames, yes - but involving videogames in this discussion is, IMO, rather off the subject. Videogames are nowhere as immoral or indecent as hentai or pornography.

Yes, immortality and indecency is a subject of opinion. But even so, videos and animations involving people engaging in endless sex... definitely leaves something more to be questioned about than fun videogames.
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teenagers is one thing...but little kids? nah that's pretty ridiculous

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Nov 9, 2010 6:39 PM

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OminousFlare said:
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So somebody who goes on a rampage and shoots a bunch of people means violent video games should be banned?

If there's evidence to show influence from videogames, yes - but involving videogames in this discussion is, IMO, rather off the subject. Videogames are nowhere as immoral or indecent as hentai or pornography.

Yes, immortality and indecency is a subject of opinion. But even so, videos and animations involving people engaging in endless sex... definitely leaves something more to be questioned about than fun videogames.


There is no evidence at all. There is nothing questionable about something enjoying porn. It just means they like porn. There are also many couples who watch porn together.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
There is no evidence at all.

Yes, there is. If someone who goes on a rampage had played violent videogames before, we could establish from that that there is at least the possibility that influences were gained from those games, triggering something sinister in the rampager's mind.

Drunk_Samurai said:
There is nothing questionable about something enjoying porn. It just means they like porn. There are also many couples who watch porn together.

Still, it's rather unhealthy.

People didn't need porn to have sex thousands of years ago. Thus, I don't think the inclusion of pornography today is really necessary.
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lollypatrolly said:
If you were sick back then, doctors would treat you with bloodletting and snake oil, but thankfully humanity has (mostly) progressed past this stage, and I think you should do the same.

You still have yet to state why pornography is such an important asset of humanity. Thus, I deem it as unnecessary.

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There are no scientific studies proving that porn is unhealthy in any way.

http://marriage.about.com/od/pornography/a/watchingporn.htm

It's not exactly confirming my point 100%, but you could see the controversy there, especially in regards to Drunk_Samurai's point about couples watching pornography.
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OminousFlare said:
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There is no evidence at all.

Yes, there is. If someone who goes on a rampage had played violent videogames before, we could establish from that that there is at least the possibility that influences were gained from those games, triggering something sinister in the rampager's mind.

Drunk_Samurai said:
There is nothing questionable about something enjoying porn. It just means they like porn. There are also many couples who watch porn together.

Still, it's rather unhealthy.

People didn't need porn to have sex thousands of years ago. Thus, I don't think the inclusion of pornography today is really necessary.


No there isn't. It just means they enjoyed violent games. If somebody goes on a rampage then they were already fucked up long before violent video games became a part of their life. Prove its unhealthy. Which is impossible since that's a bunch of bullshit.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
If somebody goes on a rampage then they were already fucked up long before violent video games became a part of their life.

Perhaps the person might already had some hidden, undiscovered sick desires before violent videogames were introduced to him, perhaps the person might not have discovered that he likes rape yet - but it is undoubtedly a fact that it is videogames or rape hentai that open that door for those people, who were previously blissfully ignorant of those desires.

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Prove its unhealthy. Which is impossible since that's a bunch of bullshit.

You're saying the many research of psychologists is bullshit?
Nov 9, 2010 8:50 PM

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Meh kids are fucked up nowadays anyway so does it really matteR?
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OminousFlare said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
If somebody goes on a rampage then they were already fucked up long before violent video games became a part of their life.

Perhaps the person might already had some hidden, undiscovered sick desires before violent videogames were introduced to him, perhaps the person might not have discovered that he likes rape yet - but it is undoubtedly a fact that it is videogames or rape hentai that open that door for those people, who were previously blissfully ignorant of those desires.

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Prove its unhealthy. Which is impossible since that's a bunch of bullshit.

You're saying the many research of psychologists is bullshit?


That's total bullshit. If somebody has desires such as those and they play the games then they are less likely to act out on them. Notice that Japan has one of the lowest rates of rape. They do not get influenced by violent/sexual media. Also yes I am saying their bullshit research is bullshit.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
OminousFlare said:
Drunk_Samurai said:
If somebody goes on a rampage then they were already fucked up long before violent video games became a part of their life.

Perhaps the person might already had some hidden, undiscovered sick desires before violent videogames were introduced to him, perhaps the person might not have discovered that he likes rape yet - but it is undoubtedly a fact that it is videogames or rape hentai that open that door for those people, who were previously blissfully ignorant of those desires.

Drunk_Samurai said:
Prove its unhealthy. Which is impossible since that's a bunch of bullshit.

You're saying the many research of psychologists is bullshit?


That's total bullshit. If somebody has desires such as those and they play the games then they are less likely to act out on them. Notice that Japan has one of the lowest rates of rape. They do not get influenced by violent/sexual media. Also yes I am saying their bullshit research is bullshit.


Influence is influence in the end it doesn't matter though I'd agree with your fact on Japan having the lowest rates of rape but are you absolutely sure that its healthy I mean the general idea of hentai/pornography is bad or wrong for what reason give me your take on it since we are having a logical discussion.
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Regarding lowest rate of rape in Japan, I'm gonna quote an article posted by skankfish in GD

I've heard a lot of people defend Japan's violent sexual media as an outlet for what would otherwise be a rapist or peadophile. And the criminal numbers seem to be in favour of that excuse. UN statistics indicate Japan's rape averages as 1/24th that of the USA and 1/20th the UK's.

Further investigation, however, produces a different explanation: The definition of "what rape is" in Japan is very narrow, and attempted prosecution may lead not only to a rejected case, but to the blame being attributed to the victim (see Sexual Violence and the Law in Japan by Catherine Burns); thanks to a severe gender bias in the legal system. For this reason, it is possible that many more Japanese victims exist who are unwilling to report the crime (though numbers of reports have started to increase since a high-profile serial-gang-rape case made national news.)

The idea that watching rape porn quells the desire for real rape is generally argued to be false. Indeed, how could it be otherwise? Surely the desire isn't just one of observing the mistreatment of a woman, but actively being involved in it. The absurd popularity of this genre only supports the concept of rape being "a fantasty, rather than a crime" for many Japanese men.

Source
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lollypatrolly said:
You have yet to show actual scientific research proving anything.

Not scientific but, thank you, RedSuisei.

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As for porn being unnecessary, that's true, in much the same way eating delicious food, having fun, or being stimulated in any other way is unnecessary.

From RedSuisei's source, I'd believe that it's established 'eating delicious food' or 'having fun' are less hazardous than watching porn.
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OminousFlare said:
lollypatrolly said:
You have yet to show actual scientific research proving anything.

Not scientific but, thank you, RedSuisei.

lollypatrolly said:
As for porn being unnecessary, that's true, in much the same way eating delicious food, having fun, or being stimulated in any other way is unnecessary.

From RedSuisei's source, I'd believe that it's established 'eating delicious food' or 'having fun' are less hazardous than watching porn.


I call bullshit on the last sentence. It is false to say that watching rape porn means somebody will rape some girl.
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lollypatrolly said:
Or do you want to argue that all porn is rape porn?

No, but since you've stated that, you could see that porn, to that effect, has the potential to lay influence down. Whether if the influence has actually directly caused any criminal actions has yet to be proven, but as you could see from the source, its effects are plentiful and conspicuous, spreading a bubble of misinterpretation that would eventually, if not already, go something like, "It's okay for me to be slightly indecent, because it's a common thing around Japan."

Now, imagine if that 'slightly' would go through your 'evolution', lollypatrolly, and turn into 'moderately' in the future, assuming it's not already occurring. What comes after 'moderately' should be obvious.

But, I'll admit that this is in consideration of rape porn rather than porn in general. However, I dare to say that its influence is almost as damaging as rape porn, just much lesser due to the lack of violent sexual actions.

Imagine a child (going back to the OP subject that we greatly digressed from) watches mass amount of porn, and with his naive mind, he assumes that it's how the world works (since we know how kids love to role-play stuff they see on television). He goes out and sees a girl of his age. Boom. You know what happens next. He humps her. And though he would stop if the girl screams (since we're not talking about rape porn here), the point here is the influence the porn had, or rather, have the potential to cause a child in viewing of porn.

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I call bullshit on the last sentence. It is false to say that watching rape porn means somebody will rape some girl.

Shut up, dude. Just shut up. You just call bullshit on everything you don't agree on and leaves the thread with one-liners.
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Drunk_Samurai said:
OminousFlare said:
lollypatrolly said:
You have yet to show actual scientific research proving anything.

Not scientific but, thank you, RedSuisei.

lollypatrolly said:
As for porn being unnecessary, that's true, in much the same way eating delicious food, having fun, or being stimulated in any other way is unnecessary.

From RedSuisei's source, I'd believe that it's established 'eating delicious food' or 'having fun' are less hazardous than watching porn.


I call bullshit on the last sentence. It is false to say that watching rape porn means somebody will rape some girl.


I second this call of bullshit.

OminousFlare said:
Videogames are nowhere as immoral or indecent as hentai or pornography.


Videogames about ripping people apart, stabbing, shooting unarmed civilians, pimping among others, aren't as immoral as two people doing the dirty. Right.
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Violent videogames about ripping people apart, stabbing, shooting unarmed civilians, pimping among others, aren't as immoral as two people doing the dirty in any mainstream hentai/pornography of any kind. Right.

Fix'd.

And besides, those things you mentioned were only hinted in many videogames. Young kids playing videogames wouldn't know if they are 'unarmed civilians' or not - they just know they are 'shooting bad guys'. 'Pimping others'? What the Hell is that to a kid? You'd need to explain shit.

A cock plunging a girl's pussy, when left unexplained, however, garner curiosity to find out what that hole is, and whether if his dick could really be inserted for whatever reasons (assuming the 'stimulation' is not blatantly explained).
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Look at the ease of access to these sorts of games compared to hentai/porn.

The main games sold to the public are exactly that: violent ones, it makes just as much sense for them to wonder how the pretty red water comes out when compared to them wanting to know what happens when your pee pee goes into the girl's dirty place. Saying the people who watch said porn aren't retarded / 7 years old, they probably know about sex already.

Just like the people who try to say violent video games make people kill, people trying to say that that sorta porn makes people rape or go out and do animals is sensible indeed.
If people are of that persuasion, they will do it, no porn or game will change that.
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Not all people who watch porn has "normal" mind.There are many type of people watching porn.Its just that a person with an "abnormal" mind, happen to watch porn and she/he start to mimic porn in real life.

haha First of all, people who mimic stuff(like killing or raping) in media has mental problem or lack of self consciousness.
I have argue many people in the forum and I know HOW STUBBORN A HUMAN CAN BE.
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