| It has long been imagined that actions occur because of an actor that innately possess the will to influence its surroundings; certainly, this perspective pervades the human understanding, underlying everything from our language based around the 'subject'; our laws which we conceived to protect the 'individuals'; to our model of the sciences which seek to describe the relationship between various empirical objects. To be sure, this self-centered psychology is consistent with bottom-up evolutionary development in which organisms are formed through symbiotic bonds of smaller organisms, molecules, atoms, particles, and so forth. However, this bottom-up approach misses an essential element that can only be provided to us by a top-down holistic perspective that perceives objects as merely extensions of the whole. Instead up climbing up the dimensional ladder, we start at the top, the 4th dimension, and realize that time is the ultimate troll, ever so persuasive behind its façade of the first 3 dimensions, masquerading the relinquishment of agency and consciousness to mere man; it bares its fangs and unveils its true nature to only the most skilled of philosophical inquiries that nary an ordinary man could achieve. Yes, despite being aware of the epiphenomenon of qualia, which can only be described as the subjective feeling of consciousness, we must admit, if we should summon forth even an ounce of intellectual integrity, that 'time' is the only actor against all actions. I am speaking of course of inevitability due to causality: each arrangement of physical matter being predetermined by a prior state, like a pin against a bowling ball. My question is simple -- or rather the semantics, the meaning in which the words refer to, are easily understood, but a cursory understanding of their pragmatic context reveals the difficulty that belie the surface, but I digress... Is it possible to have a casual discussion despite causality? I shall look forward to your responses, preferably to the question at hand rather than my repertoire of fancy, but meaningful words, combined in masterful composition like a soup carefully deliberated by the Iron Chef. If there shall be a chiaroscuro debate, please refrain from rowdiness; I expect each and every one of you to demonstrate Victorian-Era etiquette like the fine gentlemen you are. I thank you, sincerely, for reading this, possibly the best OP in MAL history. I shall repose, and take my leave. Regards, Katsucats |
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| here let me start off by saying why this OP is wrong qualia, which can only be described as the subjective feeling of consciousness Qualia is sensory data that you perceive by an object, not consciousness. time is the ultimate troll, ever so persuasive behind its façade of the first 3 dimensions, masquerading the relinquishment of agency and consciousness to mere man; it bares its fangs and unveils its true nature to only the most skilled of philosophical inquiries that nary an ordinary man could achieve. we dont have free will so this statement makes no sense in the slightest 'time' is the only actor against all actions. Clarify what you mean by time and your statement will have a different meaning. chiaroscuro debate LOL thats a spanish art style handed down for centuries, not an adjective for debate. Other than your composition which is not amusing in the slightest, discussions are already predetermined based on actors from the past, so there is not much to talk about here. You answered your own question kinda roughly glazing over the composition. |
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| I can already tell this thread will be quite casual in discussion. |
 Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
| I can already feel the casuality flowing through this thread. Or am I really feeling causality? Dammit |
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| I really hope we get General discussion back one of these days... |
| I wasnt really active on this forum when GD existed, but I seen loads of people saying they want it back... Can someone explain to me what was so special about it, and why the same discussions cant take place in this board? |
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Mkayyy said: I wasnt really active on this forum when GD existed, but I seen loads of people saying they want it back... Can someone explain to me what was so special about it, and why the same discussions cant take place in this board? Wasn't here for it, but read up here. |
Just this once, I'll fulfill whatever your wish is. |
Regicide said: Perception of the senses require consciousness. Qualia (pron.: /ˈkwɑːliə/ or /ˈkweɪliə/; singular form: quale (Latin pronunciation: [ˈkwaːle]) is a term used in philosophy to refer to individual instances of subjective, conscious experience.qualia, which can only be described as the subjective feeling of consciousness Qualia is sensory data that you perceive by an object, not consciousness. Regicide said: That is what the statement asserts: the agency of man is mere user illusion; the current of the stream carries the drifting leaf regardless of its disposition.time is the ultimate troll, ever so persuasive behind its façade of the first 3 dimensions, masquerading the relinquishment of agency and consciousness to mere man; it bares its fangs and unveils its true nature to only the most skilled of philosophical inquiries that nary an ordinary man could achieve. we dont have free will so this statement makes no sense in the slightestRegicide said: It is respectable that you understand the etymology of the word 'Chiaroscuro' that has been adapted to represent the sharp contrasts of a Spanish art style. 'Chiaroscuro' is as much an adjective as 'Shakespearean' -- words, my dear, are but mere shadows of the living beast we call language.chiaroscuro debate LOL thats a spanish art style handed down for centuries, not an adjective for debate.Regicide said: Despite so, we refer to each other as subjects using pronouns, and the rest of the board is still very much casual. Has the question really been answered?Other than your composition which is not amusing in the slightest, discussions are already predetermined based on actors from the past, so there is not much to talk about here. You answered your own question kinda roughly glazing over the composition. |
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| I did a double take to make sure it wasn't Auto posting the thread... |
TsukikageRan said: The distance between us is the height of a Titan. I do strive for intelligibility; my remarks are astute and arguments distinct like joints of a centipede: separate, yet connected, and always sensitive to the terrain. Please do not mention that name in this thread again, for what we want to achieve is seriousness, because this is the internet, not the opposite effect.I did a double take to make sure it wasn't Auto posting the thread... |
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| I must implore, for I stand quite inquisitive on the matter, the aggregate quantity of time you consumed in composing this rather complicated, methodical, and seemingly interminable enquiry? The expanse of exertion and effort contributed by you in regards to your investigation appears to be quite enormous. I concede your toils, and would deeply appreciate a hasty rejoinder, if you would be so kind. |
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Red_Keys said: Ideas must be carefully expressed lest the wrong aperture should lose sight of the picture, however a skilled photographer has the powers of greater efficiency compared to a novice. While it may seem unorthodox to compose such magnificence here on MAL, I assure you it was worth the effort and I do not regret a moment of it.I must implore, for I stand quite inquisitive on the matter, the aggregate quantity of time you consumed in composing this rather complicated, methodical, and seemingly interminable enquiry? Red_Keys said: Thank you. A question that can be answered with ease is not worth asking.The expanse of exertion and effort contributed by you in regards to your investigation appears to be quite enormous. I concede your toils, and would deeply appreciate a hasty rejoinder, if you would be so kind. |
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-Miyu- said: A language of intelligence isn't spoken, my lady, but invented. By the higher powers invested in us we are each capable of it, but muscles must be exercised before they are fit. I implore you to grasp knowledge by the reigns with both hands until the beast knows its master.Red_Keys said: Damn, even you? I don't speak this language of intelligence.I must implore, for I stand quite inquisitive on the matter, the aggregate quantity of time you consumed in composing this rather complicated, methodical, and seemingly interminable enquiry? The expanse of exertion and effort contributed by you in regards to your investigation appears to be quite enormous. I concede your toils, and would deeply appreciate a hasty rejoinder, if you would be so kind. |
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Tavor said: Read that, but I was thinking that there was something more special about the GD section. Mkayyy said: I wasnt really active on this forum when GD existed, but I seen loads of people saying they want it back... Can someone explain to me what was so special about it, and why the same discussions cant take place in this board? Wasn't here for it, but read up here. Only problem I see with the current discussions board is that there isnt enough interesting topics... I cant see why having a GD section would change that. |
MkayJan 4, 2013 9:43 PM
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| Just don't wear pants when you post. |
ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: Just don't wear pants when you post. Oh. Well, looks like I'm ahead of the game. I find that pants are an illusion, just like death. |
ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: So what you're saying is, my pants have already attempted to take my life?ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: Just don't wear pants when you post. Oh. Well, looks like I'm ahead of the game. I find that pants are an illusion, just like death. I think it's more along the lines of that your pants don't exist.. Like death doesn't exist. BECAUSE AFTER WE LEAVE THIS CURSED FLESH BODY AWAITS US ETERNAL LIFE. Try fapping with your 'pants' on and zipped up and tell us the results. |
Touch me, you filthy casual~ |
RedArmyShogun said: There are organisms aplenty that neither cognizant of life nor death; those that do also perceive self-identity by spatial-temporal continuity of consciousness. And since we could never know what's beyond our senses, so too is death beyond perception, so any assertion about the experience of death shall be incomprehensible unless it is to mean the experience of losing consciousness -- and that is an experience we practice every night.ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: Oh. Well, looks like I'm ahead of the game.Just don't wear pants when you post. I find that pants are an illusion, just like death. Pants are similar. There are those that are not cognizant of them, and we also practice losing them every night. The only difference is that most of us fail. That is an astute revelation RedArmyShogun, so profound in its simplicity. |
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| i got s new tampon 2day |
| tfw no gf tfw i keep getting the banhammer on here tfw Koleare keeps banning me every other day tfw I'm misunderstood by le mod |
iCameSwagYOLO420 said: With you apparently being a male, I am quite curious as to your application of said new tampon.i got s new tampon 2day |
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Red_Keys said: iCameSwagYOLO420 said: With you apparently being a male, I am quite curious as to your application of said new tampon.i got s new tampon 2day Ho ho ho ho, wouldn't you like to know  |
| tfw no gf tfw i keep getting the banhammer on here tfw Koleare keeps banning me every other day tfw I'm misunderstood by le mod |
Red_Keys said: They're good for nosebleeds according to Amanda Bynes. oops out of characteriCameSwagYOLO420 said: With you apparently being a male, I am quite curious as to your application of said new tampon.i got s new tampon 2day A young lady by the names of Amanda Bynes if memory serves me correctly once retorted that tampons are good for stopping nosebleeds. She was playing a cross-dresser -- lovely film. |
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katsucats said: Red_Keys said: They're good for nosebleeds according to Amanda Bynes.iCameSwagYOLO420 said: With you apparently being a male, I am quite curious as to your application of said new tampon.i got s new tampon 2day Hmm what movie was that again? She's the man? |
| tfw no gf tfw i keep getting the banhammer on here tfw Koleare keeps banning me every other day tfw I'm misunderstood by le mod |
Mkayyy said: The problem is no one takes interesting topics seriously. Most people prefer troll topics.Only problem I see with the current discussions board is that there isnt enough interesting topics... I cant see why having a GD section would change that. |
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Ragix said: ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: So what you're saying is, my pants have already attempted to take my life?ThisGuy-san said: RedArmyShogun said: Just don't wear pants when you post. Oh. Well, looks like I'm ahead of the game. I find that pants are an illusion, just like death. I think it's more along the lines of that your pants don't exist.. Like death doesn't exist. BECAUSE AFTER WE LEAVE THIS CURSED FLESH BODY AWAITS US ETERNAL LIFE. Try fapping with your 'pants' on and zipped up and tell us the results. See you have fallen into the trap of wearing zipper pants and Jeans. Wear only Fatigues, and carpenter pants, for they have buttons and slits and do not hug the croth. |
RedArmyShogunJan 5, 2013 9:56 AM
katsucats said: Mkayyy said: The problem is no one takes interesting topics seriously. Most people prefer troll topics.Only problem I see with the current discussions board is that there isnt enough interesting topics... I cant see why having a GD section would change that. Your not answering my question. People can troll GD and CD, if people are to troll then they may do so wherever they feel they want to. Also why can't troll just be ignored? If someone wants to speak about a topic that they find interesting surely they can block out the trolls and not reply to them. |
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| I think some of you are working on making CE a better place. So I guess it will improve soon. I was just a bit upset with complain about the new organisation being shit and not trying to make it better. I mean, moving all those topic took a lot of time for mods in order to please user which complained about discussion post being moved to chat were they were buried under games. Asking them more work seems a bit unfair while user can work on making it better. On topic the OP is a bit to hard for my English skill. I'm also not sure of the definition of casual it refers to. |
HapaxJan 5, 2013 10:46 AM
 I sometime have funky grammar, sorry about that. If you can correct some of my post, you would be an angel. |
Mkayyy said: Of course changing the name of the forum isn't going to help. In combination with providing a different venue for spam topics, the mods need to get on top of their shit.katsucats said: Mkayyy said: The problem is no one takes interesting topics seriously. Most people prefer troll topics.Only problem I see with the current discussions board is that there isnt enough interesting topics... I cant see why having a GD section would change that. Your not answering my question. People can troll GD and CD, if people are to troll then they may do so wherever they feel they want to. Also why can't troll just be ignored? If someone wants to speak about a topic that they find interesting surely they can block out the trolls and not reply to them. |
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