| He was saying gum gum in English before you were born (yo ho ho he took a bite of gum gum). It's a faithfully translated onomatopoeia, and not a reason to criticize this show when there are so many other problems. The marvel movie banter between Nami and Zoro is so much worse. |
OchimushaJun 18, 2023 11:32 PM
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N_ee_l said: 😮💨 judging things by seeing a trailer and these guys only recommend their friends to watch all 1000 episodes saying that starting is slow you need to watch atleast 200 episodes before you like it ☝️☝️ This. You are judging it way too much and way too soon. It's a fact that live action can never give the vibes of original anime. But treat it like a movie. |
they basically gave Luffy spidermans personality  |
| I think people should stop thinking that any actor will possibly translate the innocence and "uniqueness" of Luffy into live action. I do have a few problems with the writing tho. I can never imagine Luffy saying a word like "tension" in any context. And also the gum gum scene gives me the ick. |
  𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶   |
this just screams TeamFourStar lmao |
KINOKOMORGUE said: The marvel movie banter between Nami and Zoro is so much worse. What does this mean? I really don't get it. |
KryzakamiHrybami said: I guess that it's too quippy and uses too many tropes, and in ways that seem sorta out of character. Like Zoro saying they aren't a crew or telling Luffy that people don't name their attacks. KINOKOMORGUE said: The marvel movie banter between Nami and Zoro is so much worse. What does this mean? I really don't get it. |
| You're acting as if Luffy is some completely one-of-a-kind character when he's really just a generic shonen protagonist. The actor who plays him in the Netflix series at least looks the part even if his personality and dialogue might not be exactly what some people wanted, but that has more to do with the series being a tacky, soulless Netflix cash grab than any flaws pertaining to the actor himself. |
Early_Morning said: lol Luffy is, in fact, a one-of-a-kind protagonist, that's why it's so hard to translate his goofiness and innocence into a Western live-action series.... because it would just look tackier than it looks already. I can see why you would call Luffy generic but you're just analyzing the surface of his character while apparently disregarding what makes him a more complex character like his high emotional intelligence despite being dumb as bricks, how he's a positive and free-spirited character but he also understands the consequences of his actions, or how his morality isn't always correct/good but he doesn't sway from his own pre-set morals despite the risk of casualties happening, etc. You're acting as if Luffy is some completely one-of-a-kind character when he's really just a generic shonen protagonist. The actor who plays him in the Netflix series at least looks the part even if his personality and dialogue might not be exactly what some people wanted, but that has more to do with the series being a tacky, soulless Netflix cash grab than any flaws pertaining to the actor himself. |
| 𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶 |
samsince04 said: Early_Morning said: lol Luffy is, in fact, a one-of-a-kind protagonist, that's why it's so hard to translate his goofiness and innocence into a Western live-action series.... because it would just look tackier than it looks already. I can see why you would call Luffy generic but you're just analyzing the surface of his character while apparently disregarding what makes him a more complex character like his high emotional intelligence despite being dumb as bricks, how he's a positive and free-spirited character but he also understands the consequences of his actions, or how his morality isn't always correct/good but he doesn't sway from his own pre-set morals despite the risk of casualties happening, etc. You're acting as if Luffy is some completely one-of-a-kind character when he's really just a generic shonen protagonist. The actor who plays him in the Netflix series at least looks the part even if his personality and dialogue might not be exactly what some people wanted, but that has more to do with the series being a tacky, soulless Netflix cash grab than any flaws pertaining to the actor himself. Oh please, he's basically Goku with a different name and different character design. There's nothing remarkably special or complex about Luffy's emotional state or intelligence whatsoever; some of y'all think that because we don't hear his inner thoughts, that it makes him a complex and mysterious character even though by Oda's own admission, Luffy simply says whatever's in his head aloud and that's why we never hear his inner thoughts. His behavior for the most part is just various different facets of anime protagonist tropes put together without much nuance. |
Early_Morning said: Instances that Luffy showed emotional intelligence. Spoilers for Alabasta, WCI and Amazon Lily. samsince04 said: lol Luffy is, in fact, a one-of-a-kind protagonist, that's why it's so hard to translate his goofiness and innocence into a Western live-action series.... because it would just look tackier than it looks already. I can see why you would call Luffy generic but you're just analyzing the surface of his character while apparently disregarding what makes him a more complex character like his high emotional intelligence despite being dumb as bricks, how he's a positive and free-spirited character but he also understands the consequences of his actions, or how his morality isn't always correct/good but he doesn't sway from his own pre-set morals despite the risk of casualties happening, etc. Oh please, he's basically Goku with a different name and different character design. There's nothing remarkably special or complex about Luffy's emotional state or intelligence whatsoever; some of y'all think that because we don't hear his inner thoughts, that it makes him a complex and mysterious character even though by Oda's own admission, Luffy simply says whatever's in his head aloud and that's why we never hear his inner thoughts. His behavior for the most part is just various different facets of anime protagonist tropes put together without much nuance. I managed to get some pics of the scene from Amazon Lily If those aren't moments of emotional intelligence and an ability to convey feelings in a way that influences others, then idk what is. I never said anything about Luffy's inner thoughts, just mentioning why I think he's a more complex character than you're giving him credit for. |
samsince04Jun 19, 2023 1:10 PM
| 𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶 |
| i'm expecting it to be bad as well but the casting has been well done and i can't think of anyone who would do luffy's part better. the guy radiates cheerful goofy energy. even if you disagree, i don't see the need to call him a weirdo, at least he's passionate about it. and he's obviously not the one writing the dialogue, gum gum is english and not his own choice. samsince04 said: your fault for trying to reason with that clown lol.just mentioning why I think he's a more complex character than you're giving him credit for. |
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| Luffy’s literally Goku bruh. Even Oda himself has stated that Luffy was highly influenced by Goku. Where’s that uniqueness you’re talking about? Most Mc’s are influenced by another Mc so you really can’t find uniqueness in them. |
 𝘚𝘰𝘮𝘦𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦𝘴 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘐 𝘤𝘭𝘰𝘴𝘦 𝘮𝘺 𝘦𝘺𝘦𝘴, 𝘐 𝘤𝘢𝘯’𝘵 𝘴𝘦𝘦. |
on ryzxgum said: Oh is this person like a huge clown around these parts? I feel like I've seen him in episode discussions for One Piece, consistently complaining about pacing. Might be the same username but a different person...Something about calling Luffy "basically Goku" just didn't sit right with me. Like cmon, you can't claim to be a One Piece fan and make a statement like that. samsince04 said: your fault for trying to reason with that clown lol.just mentioning why I think he's a more complex character than you're giving him credit for. |
| 𝒮𝑜𝓂𝑒𝓉𝒾𝓂𝑒𝓈, 𝓎𝑜𝓊 𝒸𝒶𝓃'𝓉 𝓂𝑜𝓋𝑒 𝒻𝑜𝓇𝓌𝒶𝓇𝒹 𝓌𝒾𝓉𝒽𝑜𝓊𝓉 𝒸𝓁𝑜𝓈𝒾𝓃𝑔 𝓉𝒽𝑒 𝒹𝑜𝑜𝓇 𝒷𝑒𝒽𝒾𝓃𝒹 𝓎𝑜𝓊. - 𝑅𝑒𝒾 𝒦𝒾𝓇𝒾𝓎𝒶𝓂𝒶 |
samsince04 said: yeah, basically in every one piece thread ever. so what you wanna do is put yo shades on, and go stevie wonder mode around their takes. just ain't worth it, trust xDOh is this person like a huge clown around these parts? I feel like I've seen him in episode discussions for One Piece, consistently complaining about pacing. Might be the same username but a different person...Something about calling Luffy "basically Goku" just didn't sit right with me. Like cmon, you can't claim to be a One Piece fan and make a statement like that. |
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