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Sep 1, 2022 2:06 AM
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Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.
EDIT 1 : According to most of you, she becomes likeable from Season 2 onwards. Very well then, i will start watching, thanks for the input.
EDIT 2 : The amount of Kaguya simps attacking me is actually funny, guys just go jerk off to her pictures if you're not gonna add anything constructive.
EDIT 3 : You were right, im half way through season 2 and she's already showing improvement. I don't think she will ever become a favourite of mine but im glad that i don't have to despise her anymore. Appreciate everyone for contributing, moderators feel free to delete this post if you want, i don't have access.
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Sep 1, 2022 2:16 AM
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In my opinion ,if you watch the next two seasons you will understand the personality of Kaguya and sure became a fan of her.
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Sep 1, 2022 2:20 AM
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She's a terrible character don't even bother continuing the series it gets worse
Sep 1, 2022 2:20 AM
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shut up, kaguya best girl
Sep 1, 2022 2:23 AM
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She gets better imo. I already liked her in S1 and she gets much more development in later Seasons as you watched. Have a blessed photo of Kaguya below:
Sep 1, 2022 2:25 AM
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As someone who is up to date with both anime and manga I can safely say that Kaguya is in the top 3 of best developed characters in the series. If you have finished the first season of the show you should alerdy have a good idea of why she acts the way she does, and she has been shown to be self aware about this, wich at least is a starting point for future development.
Sep 1, 2022 2:32 AM
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there is character development in season 2 and 3, especially with her relationship with ishigami
Sep 1, 2022 2:34 AM
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Yeah same, I don't really like her himedere side.
Sep 1, 2022 2:35 AM
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She's a terrible character don't even bother continuing the series it gets worse

Mate.. what are you on my man.
Sep 1, 2022 2:35 AM
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will you define what does it mean by better person? there are so many characters that you define now. did you question about them at any time?
Sep 1, 2022 2:36 AM
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Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.

Ok so the whole reason Kaguya is like this is cause she’s in her “ice queen” phase but she slowly gets warmer and in s3 GODDAMN every character is perfect
Sep 1, 2022 2:37 AM

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If those are the things you don't like about her, then that's fair to an extent, because that's pretty much how the story characterizes her (although I do think you're exaggerating a bit). These are her character-flaws and the hurdles she is meant to overcome over the course of this story. So in short yes, she will get "better" in the following seasons in some of those aspects, but don't expect that development to happen quickly - Kaguya-sama's progression is fairly slow but also steady.
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you will understand her reasoning and stuff for sure. Plus, if you read the manga, you will definitely like and support her
Sep 1, 2022 2:43 AM
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Stacias said:
shut up, kaguya best girl

Honestly i'd take an extra over her
Sep 1, 2022 2:44 AM
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Slayer777 said:
tf is this dumbass saying?? 😪😪

Im a dumbass for having an opinion?
Sep 1, 2022 2:47 AM
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She becomes slightly less annoying but series got better in season 2 in my opinion.
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Sep 1, 2022 2:55 AM
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mr_simp2000 said:
will you define what does it mean by better person? there are so many characters that you define now. did you question about them at any time?

I don't mind her being a bit cold towards Miyuki as an attempt to hide her feelings, but i want her to atleast get off her high horse. Chika is also wealthy but you don't see her being a dick, Miyuki outranks Kaguya but you don't see him looking down on others. Ishigami pretty much minds his own business most of the time but he doesn't seem like a bad guy either. Kaguya's writing is good if the author's intention was to make people dislike her but then slowly grow fond of her as the story progresses and she becomes a better person. That is what i want, but if she remains the ice princess or whatever for all 3 seasons then what's the point? this is why i asked if she gets any better.
Sep 1, 2022 3:13 AM

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she is little bit annoying but she still a great character imo
Sep 1, 2022 3:29 AM
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Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.

Look man, i would join the rest of these people in belittling you but I won’t, truth be told she does, now, watch the next two seasons to find out why/how, once you do, I’m not saying you’ll like any better, but you’ll think twice about what you just said today once you do.
Sep 1, 2022 3:30 AM

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Don't get trick by them into watching Season 2, it is hard to watch.
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Sep 1, 2022 3:31 AM
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Gooseflower said:
If those are the things you don't like about her, then that's fair to an extent, because that's pretty much how the story characterizes her (although I do think you're exaggerating a bit). These are her character-flaws and the hurdles she is meant to overcome over the course of this story. So in short yes, she will get "better" in the following seasons in some of those aspects, but don't expect that development to happen quickly - Kaguya-sama's progression is fairly slow but also steady.

Maybe calling her trash was a bit much but there were times when i genuinely wished someone would knock her out cold. For example, when she called Ishigami a worm compared to her, when she tried to use Miyuki's sister to get closer to him, the numerous times she chose her own selfish desires over Chika (who stuck by her even when she was more annoying than she is now) I can go on but you see my point. If you say Kaguya improves then that's good and im looking forward to it.
Sep 1, 2022 3:40 AM
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Artorias_SZ said:
mr_simp2000 said:
will you define what does it mean by better person? there are so many characters that you define now. did you question about them at any time?

I don't mind her being a bit cold towards Miyuki as an attempt to hide her feelings, but i want her to atleast get off her high horse. Chika is also wealthy but you don't see her being a dick, Miyuki outranks Kaguya but you don't see him looking down on others. Ishigami pretty much minds his own business most of the time but he doesn't seem like a bad guy either. Kaguya's writing is good if the author's intention was to make people dislike her but then slowly grow fond of her as the story progresses and she becomes a better person. That is what i want, but if she remains the ice princess or whatever for all 3 seasons then what's the point? this is why i asked if she gets any better.

i see. don't worry. there will be great character building later. there is a point where she acts way too much colder than now but it's for 2-3 chapters only. then back to normal and starts going out with him.
Sep 1, 2022 3:43 AM
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also read 15th chapter in manga. it's not adapted in anime.
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It's just straight-up incorrect to say she has no redeeming qualities whatsoever.




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RequiemLo64 said:
Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.

Look man, i would join the rest of these people in belittling you but I won’t, truth be told she does, now, watch the next two seasons to find out why/how, once you do, I’m not saying you’ll like any better, but you’ll think twice about what you just said today once you do.

Well if people are insulting me just for calling out season 1 Kaguya and not liking such a despicable character it's understandable, because they share the same toxic traits as her.

But most people, like yourself have been civil and say that she does eventually improve. So when/if i see it for myself i will happily edit this post and admit that she's a good character.
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Don't get trick by them into watching Season 2, it is hard to watch.

lol now im so confused, some of you guys are saying it's better than season 1 and some of you are saying it's worse.
Sep 1, 2022 3:48 AM
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Even I felt that way back in S1, she gets much likeable for most people from S2.
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No. She is still vain, arrogant, narcissistic till the end of season 3. But that's her personality. Personality is something you cant change for a character that easily, since it can ruin the plot completely. The main premise of the show is "First person to confess, loses". If this changes, the meaning of the entire show's background changes and won't make any sense. She does obtain redeeming qualities in the sequels, but that is all. You don't have to like a character to like a show. Just keep that in mind if you want to continue.
Sep 1, 2022 4:44 AM
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I’d prefer Kaguya’s maid as best girl ( I’m quite fond of her character and the atmosphere/aura she brings to the show )
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She’s best girl.
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I’d prefer Kaguya’s maid as best girl ( I’m quite fond of her character and the atmosphere/aura she brings to the show )

Yeah i also like her alot, hope she gets more screen time. Chika is my personal best girl though but the maid is definitely in second.
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Lol I preferred Hayasaka to end up with ishigami 😤
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when you watch The next seasons you will See why her personality is Like that.
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Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.

just watch the next seasons, at first I thought of her as a classic rich and loaded tsundre too but her character really develops later into the series, but once she reveals her true nature she easily became my top 3 favorite character. I'm not going to spoil anything to you but it's just heart warning.
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Many said that.Especially women.Dw shes getting nicer.
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Kaguya gets better in season 2-3 also she has more development as well. Enjoy the show!
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Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.
EDIT : According to most of you, she becomes likeable from Season 2 onwards. Very well then, i will start watching.

first watch' full series then comment you noob
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Artorias_SZ said:
Just binged the first season, decent show with a few laughs but i can't stand Kaguya herself. She is vain, arrogant, narcissistic and has no redeeming qualities. She only treats people nicely when it suits her, she will do anything for the president's affection even if it means being an a**hole to her friends. Chika and Hayasaka deserve so much better than this piece of trash. I know she's technically a tsundere/yandere hybrid and is meant to be like this but unlike others of her kind she doesn't show any genuine feelings for Miyuki, it's all about attention seeking and "winning" for her. In the entire show she was a decent human being on only 2 occasions, helping the little girl get to school and standing up to the French student for insulting Miyuki. Does she eventually get character development? im not sure i can put up with her if she remains the same and might have to drop this anime, which i don't want to do because all the other characters are so likeable especially Ishigami and Chika. This is all just my opinion, and i mean no offense if you like Kaguya.
EDIT : According to most of you, she becomes likeable from Season 2 onwards. Very well then, i will start watching.

first watch' full series then comment you noob

If we're being juvenile alright i'll bite. Or else what?
Sep 1, 2022 8:41 AM
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I'll make it the more simple and spoilerfree possible

What you think about her is exactly how she sees herself and she gradually develops into a kinder person. So she will develop in later seasons.

And Fujiwara actually resembles the description you made about Kaguya ahaha, she just act like a nice girl because she thinks she is but she's very rude, selfish, childish and so on. She's only truly kind to Kaguya
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I agree kaguya is like the worst part of the show still a really good show tho
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WigoSas said:
I'll make it the more simple and spoilerfree possible

What you think about her is exactly how she sees herself and she gradually develops into a kinder person. So she will develop in later seasons.

And Fujiwara actually resembles the description you made about Kaguya ahaha, she just act like a nice girl because she thinks she is but she's very rude, selfish, childish and so on. She's only truly kind to Kaguya

But so far every other character I've seen Chika interact with, she's been nice to them. The only time i remember her being rude is to ishigami but that was only because he "started" it i guess you could say. She can be a bit snobbish at times that's true. Guess i'll have to wait and see in s2 and 3.
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Kaguya was raised that way. She gets nicer and warmer in the next seasons but she still sometimes shows that part of her personality since those attitudes are part of her core as character.
Funnily enough, that description you gave fits S3 Chika better.
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Kaguya was raised that way. She gets nicer and warmer in the next seasons but she still sometimes shows that part of her personality since those attitudes are part of her core as character.
Funnily enough, that description you gave fits S3 Chika better.

Someone else also said that Chika becomes worse, most unfortunate. She's like a walking hug from what I've seen so far :(
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Im sorry Dio but you're just not very threatening when you have to type (15 characters) every time. Just looks stupid tbh

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Artorias_SZ said:
WigoSas said:
I'll make it the more simple and spoilerfree possible

What you think about her is exactly how she sees herself and she gradually develops into a kinder person. So she will develop in later seasons.

And Fujiwara actually resembles the description you made about Kaguya ahaha, she just act like a nice girl because she thinks she is but she's very rude, selfish, childish and so on. She's only truly kind to Kaguya

But so far every other character I've seen Chika interact with, she's been nice to them. The only time i remember her being rude is to ishigami but that was only because he "started" it i guess you could say. She can be a bit snobbish at times that's true. Guess i'll have to wait and see in s2 and 3.

Ahaha it's kinda like knowing a person, the more time you spend with that person, the more you actually understand how they think and act

An example would be this, technically a manga spoiler but this event doesn't affect much of the plot, it's for comedy reasons and it's only mentioned in 1 chapter.
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SouthRzVa said:
Kaguya was raised that way. She gets nicer and warmer in the next seasons but she still sometimes shows that part of her personality since those attitudes are part of her core as character.
Funnily enough, that description you gave fits S3 Chika better.

Someone else also said that Chika becomes worse, most unfortunate. She's like a walking hug from what I've seen so far :(

Understandable. I also used to like her but for some reason (author not knowing what to do with her character, idk) she becomes unnecessarily mean and more childish as seasons go by.
Anyways, Ishigami best girl ♥
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But so far every other character I've seen Chika interact with, she's been nice to them. The only time i remember her being rude is to ishigami but that was only because he "started" it i guess you could say. She can be a bit snobbish at times that's true. Guess i'll have to wait and see in s2 and 3.

Ahaha it's kinda like knowing a person, the more time you spend with that person, the more you actually understand how they think and act

An example would be this, technically a manga spoiler but this event doesn't affect much of the plot, it's for comedy reasons and it's only mentioned in 1 chapter.

Okay yeah that sucks, especially because she's close friends with his sister. So she's basically saying that Kei isn't good enough either and she even ate his lunch which was "commoner" food and she liked it. Im sure she's still sweet at heart though (i hope)
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SouthRzVa said:
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Someone else also said that Chika becomes worse, most unfortunate. She's like a walking hug from what I've seen so far :(

Understandable. I also used to like her but for some reason (author not knowing what to do with her character, idk) she becomes unnecessarily mean and more childish as seasons go by.
Anyways, Ishigami best girl ♥

The reason for that "development" is she was planned to be the force of chaos. He planned her to be brutally honest and resentful but he decided to make her debut as a kindhearted character, probably because in early chapter it was more useful
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Artorias_SZ said:
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Ahaha it's kinda like knowing a person, the more time you spend with that person, the more you actually understand how they think and act

An example would be this, technically a manga spoiler but this event doesn't affect much of the plot, it's for comedy reasons and it's only mentioned in 1 chapter.

Okay yeah that sucks, especially because she's close friends with his sister. So she's basically saying that Kei isn't good enough either and she even ate his lunch which was "commoner" food and she liked it. Im sure she's still sweet at heart though (i hope)

She is, but easily distracted by selfish and convienient thoughts. And she's quite resentful, especially to ishigami
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Dude you should give your opinion after watching all seasons or you will be demolished by fans.
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