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Apr 14, 2022 10:09 AM
#1
Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? |
Apr 14, 2022 10:31 AM
#2
In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. |
Apr 14, 2022 10:36 AM
#3
Well, how come these bands called BTS are so popular in the west, I suppose it's it is a bit random. However I think it's heat |
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Apr 14, 2022 10:51 AM
#4
TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. |
Apr 14, 2022 10:57 AM
#5
Azusa_Nakano_Fan said: Well, how come these bands called BTS are so popular in the west, I suppose it's it is a bit random. However I think it's heat When BTS first started they were singing in their native language in Korea. They then made the decision to sing in English once they became really big to Garner international success which makes sense. For Eiko it doesn't make sense because she barely has a following and is just starting out. So for her to sing in English as someone just starting off in small venues makes no sense logically because you would need to sing in your native language and Garner a huge audience in your country like bts did and then start singing in English to expand internationally. But she's no where near that level for her to just be singing in English in a small venue in front of an all Japanese crowd. |
Apr 14, 2022 11:36 AM
#6
Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? |
NotAnApartmentApr 14, 2022 11:42 AM
Apr 14, 2022 11:39 AM
#7
NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. |
Apr 14, 2022 11:49 AM
#8
Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. Well, it may makes no sense logically but it's her own choice man, her own decision to go with that and it actually backfired on her really bad though. Before meeting Kongming, her career as a musician is going nowhere, she had no audience, no one listen to her song. If not because of Kongming, she would have give up already. That why she need someone like Kongming as her tactician to help achieve her goal. |
Apr 14, 2022 11:55 AM
#9
A lot of Japanese singers sing in English. Also, I think the person who sings the songs is the singer 96neko, not her voice actor. |
Apr 14, 2022 11:57 AM
#10
Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. |
Apr 14, 2022 12:01 PM
#11
DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. It does but a large majority of people in Japan don't understand much English. Japan is an isolationist country and they really stick to themselves and they're own cultures and beliefs. That means alot of people just aren't gonna be running around even remotely somewhat understanding another language. Even people in Japan who are considered good at English still have a hard time understanding and having full on conversations and transitioning to America when they get here. Seeing her sing in English in front of a full Japanese crowd is like me singing in Russian in front of people in the streets of Seattle. |
Apr 14, 2022 12:03 PM
#12
Kasutoro-Kun said: No, it isn’t even remotely similar because they teach English in Japanese schools lol.DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. It does but a large majority of people in Japan don't understand much English. Japan is an isolationist country and they really stick to themselves and they're own cultures and beliefs. That means alot of people just aren't gonna be running around even remotely somewhat understanding another language. Even people in Japan who are considered good at English still have a hard time understanding and having full on conversations and transitioning to America when they get here. Seeing her sing in English in front of a full Japanese crowd is like me singing in Russian in front of people in the streets of Seattle. |
Apr 14, 2022 12:05 PM
#13
DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: No, it isn’t even remotely similar because they teach English in Japanese schools lol.DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. It does but a large majority of people in Japan don't understand much English. Japan is an isolationist country and they really stick to themselves and they're own cultures and beliefs. That means alot of people just aren't gonna be running around even remotely somewhat understanding another language. Even people in Japan who are considered good at English still have a hard time understanding and having full on conversations and transitioning to America when they get here. Seeing her sing in English in front of a full Japanese crowd is like me singing in Russian in front of people in the streets of Seattle. Just because they teach it in schools don't mean they understand it because alot of them still don't. I even looked it up "The prevalence of English speakers in Japan is actually very low, with less than 30% able to speak English, and less than 10% able to speak it fluently. This is despite English being very widely taught in schools for many years." So again regardless of them being taught English a small percentage of them still aren't fluent and are able to speak it. We get taught Spanish here in America. How many people who attend those Spanish classes actually come away having a decent understanding of the language? Very few |
Apr 14, 2022 12:09 PM
#14
Kasutoro-Kun said: Okay yeah, but all I’m saying is that it’s not comparable to singing Russian in Seattle lol.DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. It does but a large majority of people in Japan don't understand much English. Japan is an isolationist country and they really stick to themselves and they're own cultures and beliefs. That means alot of people just aren't gonna be running around even remotely somewhat understanding another language. Even people in Japan who are considered good at English still have a hard time understanding and having full on conversations and transitioning to America when they get here. Seeing her sing in English in front of a full Japanese crowd is like me singing in Russian in front of people in the streets of Seattle. Just because they teach it in schools don't mean they understand it because alot of them still don't. I even looked it up "The prevalence of English speakers in Japan is actually very low, with less than 30% able to speak English, and less than 10% able to speak it fluently. This is despite English being very widely taught in schools for many years." So again regardless of them being taught English a small percentage of them still aren't fluent and are able to speak it. We get taught Spanish here in America. How many people who attend those Spanish classes actually come away having a decent understanding of the language? Very few |
Apr 14, 2022 12:09 PM
#15
Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Well a video about how good they are at English wouldn't get that popular if it wasn't an expert which would defeat the point. Also not a conclusion a question gotcha, not a huge difference but not a minor one either. |
Apr 14, 2022 12:10 PM
#16
DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: Okay yeah, but all I’m saying is that it’s not comparable to singing Russian in Seattle lol.DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: No, it isn’t even remotely similar because they teach English in Japanese schools lol.DoomSB said: Kasutoro-Kun said: NotAnApartment said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. I doubt their English is so bad that it is likely that they understand 20% or less of it. Are you gatekeeping the biggest language in the world? I've seen alot of videos of Japanese people they barely understand English. When they come to America they need a translator and someone to help them because it's hard to transition. Alot of people in Japan aren't fluent at all in English. And it's not gate keeping. How did you read what I said and came to the conclusion I'm gate keeping? Lol I'm just saying it logically doesn't make sense. Obviously it varies person to person lol. It does but a large majority of people in Japan don't understand much English. Japan is an isolationist country and they really stick to themselves and they're own cultures and beliefs. That means alot of people just aren't gonna be running around even remotely somewhat understanding another language. Even people in Japan who are considered good at English still have a hard time understanding and having full on conversations and transitioning to America when they get here. Seeing her sing in English in front of a full Japanese crowd is like me singing in Russian in front of people in the streets of Seattle. Just because they teach it in schools don't mean they understand it because alot of them still don't. I even looked it up "The prevalence of English speakers in Japan is actually very low, with less than 30% able to speak English, and less than 10% able to speak it fluently. This is despite English being very widely taught in schools for many years." So again regardless of them being taught English a small percentage of them still aren't fluent and are able to speak it. We get taught Spanish here in America. How many people who attend those Spanish classes actually come away having a decent understanding of the language? Very few Well I'm exaggerating but I'm just trynna make a point lol |
Apr 14, 2022 12:23 PM
#17
But I personally listen to some JP music cause it sounds nice. Same with the people in the crowd for English. While most of them won't understand the lyrics,they still love the singing performance and the music by Eiko. So I don't see the issue personally..People like music even if the language they are hearing is incomprehensible to them. Same as why we love openings,We don't really understand what's being sung but we still bang our heads and hum along the lyrics of the song despite having no knowledge or the meaning behind a song.. |
Apr 14, 2022 12:43 PM
#18
AliasterB2003 said: But I personally listen to some JP music cause it sounds nice. Same with the people in the crowd for English. While most of them won't understand the lyrics,they still love the singing performance and the music by Eiko. So I don't see the issue personally..People like music even if the language they are hearing is incomprehensible to them. Same as why we love openings,We don't really understand what's being sung but we still bang our heads and hum along the lyrics of the song despite having no knowledge or the meaning behind a song.. yeah that's true I love Japanese music and don't understand a word |
Apr 14, 2022 1:08 PM
#19
Honestly ,for some people, as long as the music is good the language it's sung in doesn't really matter. For instance let's take Kpop, I'm sure atleast 90% of the listeners can't speak or don't understand Korean but yet still listen. For Eiko, as some users mentioned above, she was inspired by an American Singer so that could be the reason. Also most mainstream music is pretty much sung in English so that's another reason. Especially pop. |
Apr 14, 2022 1:41 PM
#20
Kasutoro-Kun said: Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? "She would sing in Japanese" I agree, in EP2 when she competes with Mia Iriomote she sings in Japanese I liked it. Her Singing in English was a Weird Decision? Well, I'm not rooting for her at all when she sings in English in a Live Performance it just sounds too "Corny" to my ears though I like when she goes for Acoustic Singing in English like in the first EP although I didn't cried like Kongming at the end but anyways so far the only reasons why I think I'm watching this is "Kongming," his "Wisdom", the drama that felt grounded and the music well, I've already mentioned what part of it. |
Apr 14, 2022 1:45 PM
#21
Hey_Light_9381 said: Kasutoro-Kun said: Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? "She would sing in Japanese" I agree, in EP2 when she competes with Mia Iriomote she sings in Japanese I liked it. Her Singing in English was a Weird Decision? Well, I'm not rooting for her at all when she sings in English in a Live Performance it just sounds too "Corny" to my ears though I like when she goes for Acoustic Singing in English like in the first EP although I didn't cried like Kongming at the end but anyways so far the only reasons why I think I'm watching this is "Kongming," his "Wisdom", the drama that felt grounded and the music well, I've already mentioned what part of it. I actually like her acoustic kinda folk sounding vibe better too. In episode one when she did that I thought she was the kinda artist that goes on stage on a chair and sings and plays the guitar. I would've loved that but she does kinda the poppy stuff instead which is fine but I prefer the other way more. |
Apr 14, 2022 1:57 PM
#22
Kasutoro-Kun said: Hey_Light_9381 said: Kasutoro-Kun said: Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? "She would sing in Japanese" I agree, in EP2 when she competes with Mia Iriomote she sings in Japanese I liked it. Her Singing in English was a Weird Decision? Well, I'm not rooting for her at all when she sings in English in a Live Performance it just sounds too "Corny" to my ears though I like when she goes for Acoustic Singing in English like in the first EP although I didn't cried like Kongming at the end but anyways so far the only reasons why I think I'm watching this is "Kongming," his "Wisdom", the drama that felt grounded and the music well, I've already mentioned what part of it. I actually like her acoustic kinda folk sounding vibe better too. In episode one when she did that I thought she was the kinda artist that goes on stage on a chair and sings and plays the guitar. I would've loved that but she does kinda the poppy stuff instead which is fine but I prefer the other way more. I would love it too if she sings that way but it's, you know, the pop music thing here, well, that wouldn't be a problem here if they have picked "Japanese" for the singing or worked on the English enough so that it doesn't sound too corny. Well, I'm seeing a lot of people enjoying it and criticism is hardly been done, but your making sense here and I agree with you. |
Apr 14, 2022 2:02 PM
#23
Kasutoro-Kun said: Hey_Light_9381 said: Kasutoro-Kun said: Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? "She would sing in Japanese" I agree, in EP2 when she competes with Mia Iriomote she sings in Japanese I liked it. Her Singing in English was a Weird Decision? Well, I'm not rooting for her at all when she sings in English in a Live Performance it just sounds too "Corny" to my ears though I like when she goes for Acoustic Singing in English like in the first EP although I didn't cried like Kongming at the end but anyways so far the only reasons why I think I'm watching this is "Kongming," his "Wisdom", the drama that felt grounded and the music well, I've already mentioned what part of it. I actually like her acoustic kinda folk sounding vibe better too. In episode one when she did that I thought she was the kinda artist that goes on stage on a chair and sings and plays the guitar. I would've loved that but she does kinda the poppy stuff instead which is fine but I prefer the other way more. maybe weird, but well fortunately based on the tralier the other characters yet to come will be using Japanese song. |
MnMm07Apr 14, 2022 2:14 PM
Apr 14, 2022 3:30 PM
#24
Does it matter?? It doesn’t change anything in the story so why care? |
Never watched as much anime as I wanted to |
Apr 14, 2022 9:44 PM
#25
Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. It's pretty simple...English is trendy, and Western media gets decent sales. An absolute ton of top-selling JPop includes English words and phrases; the listeners care less about what the words mean than that it sounds good. Particularly in a club scene, what matters to most people is that it pumps you up. |
Apr 14, 2022 10:21 PM
#26
MiaAyende said: Kasutoro-Kun said: TheStrongWind said: In episode 1, the singer that she admired and made her choose music as her career path was an American singer. So it's not really weird though when she want to sing her song in English, make perfect sense to me. I get that but it still doesn't quite make sense why she chooses to sing in English when she's in front of an all Japanese crowd in Japan who most likely don't understand 80 percent of what she's saying. There's Japanese bands that are inspired by the beetles. But they still sing in Japanese because 1. they're Japanese and 2. they're singing to Japanese people. I just feel like it makes no sense logically and it's kinda weird. It makes even less sense since her goal is to cultivate a following by going around Japan singing but that would be extremely hard since she's singing in all English. I just feel there's a disconnect there. It's pretty simple...English is trendy, and Western media gets decent sales. An absolute ton of top-selling JPop includes English words and phrases; the listeners care less about what the words mean than that it sounds good. Particularly in a club scene, what matters to most people is that it pumps you up. Also it's not just Eiko , the other singer Mia was also singing in English. Also lot of people in anime community listens to Japanese songs despite not having good understanding of it. |
Apr 14, 2022 11:35 PM
#27
hellooo??😭😭 the worlds global language is english, and most popular songs are in english, no matter what country your in. do japanese people just not listen to ariana grande or adelle ?? heck even kpop is popular there, i dont see why she wouldn't choose a popular english song. understanding the language doesn't always have to play part in enjoying music though yeah id also like it to see her sing more japanese songs |
Apr 14, 2022 11:38 PM
#28
Kasutoro-Kun said: Anyone else thinks it's kind of a weird decision to have Eiko sing in English? I just think it's weird because she's Japanese and the show takes place in Japan so you would think she would sing in Japanese. But she's singing in full English. She's really good at English too whoever the voice actor is but I'm kinda surprised they decided to have her go full on English instead of Japanese. Anyone else think of that? Indeed. Japanese music industry is huge and songs in Japanese clearly way more popular there. "English is trendy" - pile of crap, I hear hundreds of new songs produced in Japan every year and there are few, if any, pure English songs. Think about OPs/EDs and try to remember anything in English (not few meaningless or embarrassingly dumb words in the middle, entire song) - they barley exist. She struggles to become popular and shoots herself in the foot with English songs. The first stratagem for her is to drop English. It doesn't sound right, lyrics is weird and amateurish and competing with native singers is a dumb idea. Heck, Japanese alphabet is completely different (syllabary) and it is impossible to write down "hamburger" without changing multiple sounds, it turns into "hanbaagaa". Bunch of words they borrowed from English sound very different from the original. Yep, they all learn English, but there is no real reason for them to know it well. Vast majority never uses it and very few actually fluent. |
Apr 15, 2022 1:07 PM
#29
It's a fictional story guys, there are no incarnations, and an incarnated Chinese man cannot speak Japanese. The english songs are are popular in Japan because the author says so, damn. We have seen visitors from US speaking fluent Japanese in anime, which makes even less sense but everyone seems to be cool with that. My rough guess is the anime wants to cater to western audience. That's a nice move because anime is now beating western animation in terms of box office revenue. |
Apr 15, 2022 6:55 PM
#30
so, all the singing were not done by Eiko's VA right? |
Apr 15, 2022 11:25 PM
#31
FreezePeach said: Think about OPs/EDs and try to remember anything in English (not few meaningless or embarrassingly dumb words in the middle, entire song) Anime-specific? Ok, I'll name a couple. Cowboy Bebop - Quite a few; ones that immediately come to mind are "Blue", "Live in Baghdad", "Rain", "Want It All Back", and "Don't Bother None"; "Tank!" is technically all English as well, but there's only the one line Neon Genesis Evangelion - "Fly Me to the Moon" and "Komm Susser Tod" Naruto - Wind Bleach - Tonight, Tonight, Tonight One Piece - one of the movies used Avril Lavigne songs; I never got around to watching it though Ghost in the Shell: SAC - "Lithium Flower" and "Living Inside the Shell" .hack//Sign - Obsession Serial Experiments Lain - Duvet Dolls' Frontline - Bad Candy Ergo Proxy - "Kiri" and "Paranoid Android" Toaru Kagaku no Railgun - "Smile -You and Me-" Berserk - "Tell Me Why" and "Waiting So Long" Shin Cutie Honey - Cutie Honey Arifureta - Flare Carole & Tuesday - A bunch; "Kiss Me", "Hold Me Now", "Polly Jean", and "Not Afraid" were the main OPs and EDs Enen no Shouboutai - MAYDAY Hellsing -"Shine" and, believe it or not, "Logos Naki World" is also all English Gunslinger Girl - The Light Before We Land The Big O - And Forever Mob Psycho 100 - "Refrain Boy" had an English version that they used for one ep Black Butler - I'm ALIVE! Mahoutsukai no Yome - Clockwork Quick and Lightning Slow Spice and Wolf - Ringo Biyori Log Horizon - "database" is mostly English FLCL - the pillows have a number of songs with a lot of English in them, but "Little Busters" and "I Think I Can" immediately come to mind Steins;Gate - "Last Game" and "Gate of Steiner" are almost entirely English Maison Ikkoku - "Alone Again" and "Get Down" Shinigami no Ballad - no one Koe no Katachi - My Generation Urusei Yatsura - Every Day Great Pretender - The Great Pretender Jojo's Bizarre Adventure...all the Western music references are kind've a thing it's known for And this is certainly not comprehensive... |
Apr 16, 2022 1:29 AM
#32
Does it really make a difference that she sings in English? I honestly don't see the problem here... |
Apr 16, 2022 1:32 AM
#33
You already got your answer, she idolizes an American singer. Plus, she sings in Japanese, too. |
If you reply back to me and I never respond, I lost interest and don't care. Sorry about that. |
Apr 16, 2022 4:49 AM
#34
oh Thanks for confirmation... i didn't realized it |
Apr 16, 2022 11:57 AM
#35
She does not only sing in English. I am sure I heard some songs or at least some parts in Japanese. |
Apr 16, 2022 11:10 PM
#36
MiaAyende said: FreezePeach said: Think about OPs/EDs and try to remember anything in English (not few meaningless or embarrassingly dumb words in the middle, entire song) Anime-specific? Ok, I'll name a couple. Cowboy Bebop - Quite a few; ones that immediately come to mind are "Blue", "Live in Baghdad", "Rain", "Want It All Back", and "Don't Bother None"; "Tank!" is technically all English as well, but there's only the one line Neon Genesis Evangelion - "Fly Me to the Moon" and "Komm Susser Tod" Naruto - Wind Bleach - Tonight, Tonight, Tonight One Piece - one of the movies used Avril Lavigne songs; I never got around to watching it though Ghost in the Shell: SAC - "Lithium Flower" and "Living Inside the Shell" .hack//Sign - Obsession Serial Experiments Lain - Duvet Dolls' Frontline - Bad Candy Ergo Proxy - "Kiri" and "Paranoid Android" Toaru Kagaku no Railgun - "Smile -You and Me-" Berserk - "Tell Me Why" and "Waiting So Long" Shin Cutie Honey - Cutie Honey Arifureta - Flare Carole & Tuesday - A bunch; "Kiss Me", "Hold Me Now", "Polly Jean", and "Not Afraid" were the main OPs and EDs Enen no Shouboutai - MAYDAY Hellsing -"Shine" and, believe it or not, "Logos Naki World" is also all English Gunslinger Girl - The Light Before We Land The Big O - And Forever Mob Psycho 100 - "Refrain Boy" had an English version that they used for one ep Black Butler - I'm ALIVE! Mahoutsukai no Yome - Clockwork Quick and Lightning Slow Spice and Wolf - Ringo Biyori Log Horizon - "database" is mostly English FLCL - the pillows have a number of songs with a lot of English in them, but "Little Busters" and "I Think I Can" immediately come to mind Steins;Gate - "Last Game" and "Gate of Steiner" are almost entirely English Maison Ikkoku - "Alone Again" and "Get Down" Shinigami no Ballad - no one Koe no Katachi - My Generation Urusei Yatsura - Every Day Great Pretender - The Great Pretender Jojo's Bizarre Adventure...all the Western music references are kind've a thing it's known for And this is certainly not comprehensive... Thank you for spending your time to prove my point. There are more OPs/EDs in Japanese this season alone than you dug up in the whole history of anime even though you ignored the given limitations (OPs/EDs & entire song). That's exactly what I claimed - "they barely exist". Tiny fraction of a percent that exists only because being different enough sometimes pays off in showbiz. There is no major domestically successful Japanese singer who sings mostly in English. And there are hundreds of singers. |
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