Sword Art Online (light novel)
GreiLugaj said: official_brown said: It’s not though, it’s VR. That’s saying VRMMO Junkie is also isekai. While isekai literally does me another world, it’s still the theme of dying or teleporting to another world. Japan labels everything that features another world an isekai series. If you wanna express your hate for isekai by excluding sao, fine by me, but there's no need to deny a concept as simple as this. I don’t hate isekai, my profile should be enough proof of that… I’m saying it’s improper labeling, MAL would have tagged it that then. That’s like saying two girls that like the MC in a romance anime a harem. And name one anime that is labeled isekai and doesn’t actually involve teleporting or reincarnating to another world. Because it’s clear that SAO is fantasy / game, if it’s so simple. |
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official_brown said: GreiLugaj said: Japan labels everything that features another world an isekai series. If you wanna express your hate for isekai by excluding sao, fine by me, but there's no need to deny a concept as simple as this. I don’t hate isekai, my profile should be enough proof of that… I’m saying it’s improper labeling, MAL would have tagged it that then. That’s like saying two girls that like the MC in a romance anime a harem. And name one anime that is labeled isekai and doesn’t actually involve teleporting or reincarnating to another world. Because it’s clear that SAO is fantasy / game, if it’s so simple. Isekai is portal fantasy, meaning any anime that involves being transported to a different reality is considered an isekai. And sao, does include being teleported into a different reality, "another world". Also MAL isn't all that accurate with the labeling of genres and themes. Some anime or manga are missing tags, while others have tags that barely even fit the show. Just 2 days ago, Tatsuki Fujimotos new one-shot was tagged as a harem, it clearly wasn't. My dress-up darling doesn't even have an ecchi tag. And I can't mention an isekai without teleportation, cuz there are no anime that feature another world that don't also involve teleportation. |
GreiLugaj said: official_brown said: I don’t hate isekai, my profile should be enough proof of that… I’m saying it’s improper labeling, MAL would have tagged it that then. That’s like saying two girls that like the MC in a romance anime a harem. And name one anime that is labeled isekai and doesn’t actually involve teleporting or reincarnating to another world. Because it’s clear that SAO is fantasy / game, if it’s so simple. Isekai is portal fantasy, meaning any anime that involves being transported to a different reality is considered an isekai. And sao, does include being teleported into a different reality, "another world". Also MAL isn't all that accurate with the labeling of genres and themes. Some anime or manga are missing tags, while others have tags that barely even fit the show. Just 2 days ago, Tatsuki Fujimotos new one-shot was tagged as a harem, it clearly wasn't. My dress-up darling doesn't even have an ecchi tag. And I can't mention an isekai without teleportation, cuz there are no anime that feature another world that don't also involve teleportation. I appreciate the insight and what you said but still I’m not sure if I 100% agree with your points. I guess agree to disagree?  |
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official_brown said: GreiLugaj said: Isekai is portal fantasy, meaning any anime that involves being transported to a different reality is considered an isekai. And sao, does include being teleported into a different reality, "another world". Also MAL isn't all that accurate with the labeling of genres and themes. Some anime or manga are missing tags, while others have tags that barely even fit the show. Just 2 days ago, Tatsuki Fujimotos new one-shot was tagged as a harem, it clearly wasn't. My dress-up darling doesn't even have an ecchi tag. And I can't mention an isekai without teleportation, cuz there are no anime that feature another world that don't also involve teleportation. I appreciate the insight and what you said but still I’m not sure if I 100% agree with your points. I guess agree to disagree? Sure. I don't mind either way. |
| They exist in the real world and their minds are just being transferred to another world. By that logic, Bleach should also be considered as an Isekai because they travel to soul society but no one considers that. |
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| Imagine watching an isekai anime... |
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| Ah yes, I too think that MAL's tag labeling system is more accurate than fucking Japan themselves. This is totally not a dumb take. |
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| How ironic, SAO not being isekai in MAL.... I guess MAL should do subgenre for Isekai next time ╮(＾▽＾)╭ since Isekai is simply means Another World right? there's Reincarnated Isekai like Mushoku Tensei, there's Transported/Summoned Isekai like Shield Hero, then consider SAO as Virtual World Isekai, as well as Accel World from the same author. But then, I don't wanna burden the devs with Isekai problems. My apologies devs.(⊙‿⊙) |
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| I think the reason is that SAO doesn't actually teleport Kirito to another world, rather he's in a video game. After SAO he was able to go back to normal life and the people inside of SAO or ALO also exist in the normal world as well. |
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| In my opinion what makes an isekai is the world building of the „other world“. You have to have an established world with its own rules (like magic) its own history and political system and so on and then you have a “fish out of water” character that acts as a catalyst to explain this new world to the audience. I mean that’s the whole reason to not make it a simple fantasy story in the first place. So does SAO have such a world (only talking about season1 here since I haven’t watched more)? It’s been a while since I watched it but I would say no. There is no pre-established world we get to learn, just a bunch of new people in a videogame. I don’t remember but does the show even have many npcs in them and does the videogame world even have a lore or story behind that is told to the audience? Videogame anime often don’t feel like isekais to me, because most of the time the MC will interact with other players from the real world, not with people from the “other world”. beejeetee said: What's wrong with having both the 'video game' and 'Isekai' tag, all it does is give people more information If for you all video game animes are already isekais you dont gain any new information from the "Isekai" tag, right? And for people who dont see video game anime as isekai it would be misleading... I would call that a win-win. |
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