Attack on Titan
| I hate the alliance |
ultragabriel said: I hate the alliance I like the alliance |
| Plot armour? pacing? Sudden change in pace? What??? You should have just said that alliance isn't wrong according to you. |
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| Dude those who say Alliance is bad, just means Scouts were bad, ignorant, stupid. And this is a sign to not heed those who quite literally don't care about the journey we followed for 3 seasons. Especially since they have plan lol. |
CamelBowMar 14, 2022 10:52 PM
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Alphonae said: Are you implying that the people of paradis have a greater right to live than those living outside the walls? Despite the fact that both groups are victims of war. I'm not even gonna beat around the bush anymore. If you're this deep into the story and still look at it through an "Us" Vs "Them" lens, you're an embarrassment. I understand not liking the plot armour, I understand thinking the pacing is clanky, I understand disliking the sudden change in pace, but I'll never understand being mad at the alliance for not wanting people to die. Especially considering the fact that Paradis is safe for atleast a century by this point. Edit- I'm not neccessarily saying you *should* like the alliance, nor am I saying you should dislike the yeagerists. All I'm saying is why such a narrow-minded outlook on the show. when chapter 139.5 will get adaptation in anime then you will realise why people hate this brain-dead alliance... |
| alliance is basically made up of people who betrayed their own people.. and that's about it.. They are traitors killing their own people because they consider their own people to be of less value than of others.. |
| the words you're using are a bit harsh and that'll prove the alliance haters right but anyways i would say it's not about opinion anymore it's more like ideals those who clearly understand the theme of the story (children of the forest) would never support genocide but there are people who think AOT is some revenge thriller and why do they think so....well even if I'm one of the greatest fan of isayama I would say it's his fault , not completely but at some point in his writing he went tooo complex and ignored even kids watch this show (I'm not calling yaegrist kids) but even matured one's couldn't understand it and they came up with slangs like "cringvengers" it's like for them saving innocent people's lives is CRINGE |
Alphonae said: >If you're this deep into the story and still look at it through an "Us" Vs "Them" lens, you're an embarrassment. You didn't even read the damn post did you? The whole premise of the show is to elevate how both sides have their rights and wrong and its left upto the viewer to pick a side or not.. and I Picked the Yeagerist side.. official_brown said: That’s not necessarily true. I mean the yaegarists started killing civilians and others that were not sure what to do, so they betrayed everybody first. Plus, the Alliance is fighting for what they believe in and so are the yaegarists, I don’t think they are devaluing lives necessarily. It’s difference in perspective Its more like this.. I would rather have my own people fight and kill each other then others do it to my people... I don't hate Annie or any Marlyen tbh.. they view Eldia as enemies to their own people so they have every right to stop the rumbling... but Mikasa and other cadets killing their own people cuz it will save faraway people is straight up being a traitor to their own people.. even in the episode.. The Floch and the Yeagerist did not wanted to kill or hurt Connie and Armin but wanted to believe in them but got betrayed and killed.. There is not a single philosophy which can prove that killing your own people just to save others is not a sociopathic Traitorous trait resulting in demise of one's own race.. Floch and yaegerist killing the opposition in their own people is a common norm which takes place all around the like Martial Law or Coup d'état |
Harshmyanimelist said: when chapter 139.5 will get adaptation in anime then you will realise why people hate this brain-dead alliance... I would love to see the reaction of alliance lovers |
| "Stop beating your meat all day long and touch some grass" - Ken Kaneki or anyone idk |
Alphonae said: I have read the manga and know full well what happens by the end. But it would have happened sooner or later anyways. Since you love quoting the series, let me remind you of another quote. "Humanity will keep fighting itself until it's down to one man or less." - Erwin "The world would just become a smaller battlefield." - Kiyomi "The curse of the titans might push the Island to fight itself for another 2000 years." -Armin "You cannot take violence violence away from people." -Yelena How much more spoon feeding should the series do? You are right about that. But no civil war is gonna cause a whole race to cease to exist. But the outside world invading the island and pillaging it for resources is definitely gonna coz every civilian of paradis to die. In short a paradisan civil war is gonna be far far better than the outsiders commiting a genocide on the island. |
| "Stop beating your meat all day long and touch some grass" - Ken Kaneki or anyone idk |
I hate the alliance. Biggest bunch of clowns |
I love Monogatari Series |
| People who like the alliance are the people who'll most likely stab their own army in the back if they're at a war with another nation because "War Bad" |
| I love Monogatari Series |
VeryGhoul said: Ignore them. They’re a bunch of edgelords. Imagine needing an explanation as to why genocide is bad Call me an edgelord but I'll gladly commit a genocide if it saves my people.. ain't no way in hell am I gonna let my people die just just cuz it makes other people happy.. considering that those other people have already massacred 1/3 of my population.. I ain't gonna take any chance to "negotiate" with them.. |
| I like what the Alliance is trying to do, but I had 2 problems with them 1.) The way they were assembled was VERY off-putting, which made it harder to root for them. 2.) The tone, which had been extremely dark and cynical just a few episodes ago, was suddenly flipped on its ass and became this weird shonen-ey thing. Especially after the edge-fest that was S4P1. There's a word for it: Inconsistency. |
Alphonae said: Harshmyanimelist said: when chapter 139.5 will get adaptation in anime then you will realise why people hate this brain-dead alliance... I have read the manga and know full well what happens by the end. But it would have happened sooner or later anyways. Since you love quoting the series, let me remind you of another quote. "Humanity will keep fighting itself until it's down to one man or less." - Erwin "The world would just become a smaller battlefield." - Kiyomi "The curse of the titans might push the Island to fight itself for another 2000 years." -Armin "You cannot take violence violence away from people." -Yelena How much more spoon feeding should the series do? I am not defending genocide here of course genocide is bad no matter what killing innocent people is always bad.... yeah there might be a chance of civil war....all that stuff okay.. but it is very complicated....if we think it from a prespective of a man who is not living in paradis island of couse this alliance is good for him....they are saving humanity..they are saving innocent people..... but if we think it from prespective of a man who is living in paradis island what he get so a alliance is formed from paradis island people & eldian people to save those who destroyed there wall(episode 1) and where innocent people of paradis island were killed.... they are saving those who were planing to destroy paradis island (Willy tybur speech & gobal alliance ) they are saving those who droved eldian people from mainland hundred years ago and treating left eldian people as their slaves so it is very complicated... So from pradis island prespective what Eren friends are doing is "If anyone slaps you on the right cheek, turn to them the other cheek also" |
GreyratAnimelistMar 14, 2022 7:29 AM
| The majority of people who hate the alliance see them as traitors who kill their own people to save their enemies. Yes, they are implying that the lives of those outside the walls are less worthy of saving than those who live inside the walls, that the alliance should throw their beliefs outside the fucking window and sit tight until it's time to welcome Eren, their lord and savior, back from his heroic journey. That's how I can put it. I 100% agree with you, people should try to be more open-minded. You don't have to pick sides, it's actually better if you don't. The point is to acknowledge that both sides are getting their hands dirty and committing all kinds of crimes to do what they deem "right" or morally correct/acceptable. Regardless of their intentions, they still and will forever be war criminals that caused the death of thousands of innocents. |
| I sometimes forget to finish my sentences. |
| It’s kinda sad aot fans trying to defend anime hitler and say genocide is good lmao |
| posts like this are the entire reason people hate the aot fanbase |
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Cyrus234 said: anime hitler This will never not be funny. |
| Think of it in modern day terms. NATO = Cringe alliance. Eldyia = Russia. The alliance will get whats coming to them. |
| I don't have a problem with neither of their ideologies. It's just the formation of alliance felt really forced and cringy, it's execution was poor. Yeagerists make more sense here. |
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Fuhrer_Wrath said: aktiwkunn said: People who like the alliance are the people who'll most likely stab their own army in the back if they're at a war with another nation because "War Bad" By that logic people who support the Yeagerists are the one's who will most enthusiastically support their country/Army if their Army is committing Genocide. Only if the people being exterminated wanted to eradicate their whole existence. |
| I love Monogatari Series |
_Kitsuchi_ said: hello_2220 said: But if there would be no other race anymore, just the people on the Island, Paradis' civil war would have similar effect, because there wouldn't be any other people except them.You are right about that. But no civil war is gonna cause a whole race to cease to exist. But the outside world invading the island and pillaging it for resources is definitely gonna coz every civilian of paradis to die. In short a paradisan civil war is gonna be far far better than the outsiders commiting a genocide on the island. In this case it's all based around personal interpretation because we will never see it happen. Personally I think a constant civil war isn't gonna cause as much destruction as Marley and the outside world invading paradis |
| "Stop beating your meat all day long and touch some grass" - Ken Kaneki or anyone idk |
| Oh yeah, I almost forgot. Anime demography is 16 year olds, who don't realise preventing world genocide is more important than playing friends. Ofcourse, they hold friendships on a pedestal over rationality, just like dumb shonen protagonists do. MunkeeMan said: Alphonae said: Are you implying that the people of paradis have a greater right to live than those living outside the walls? Despite the fact that both groups are victims of war. I'm not even gonna beat around the bush anymore. If you're this deep into the story and still look at it through an "Us" Vs "Them" lens, you're an embarrassment. I understand not liking the plot armour, I understand thinking the pacing is clanky, I understand disliking the sudden change in pace, but I'll never understand being mad at the alliance for not wanting people to die. Especially considering the fact that Paradis is safe for atleast a century by this point. Edit- I'm not neccessarily saying you *should* like the alliance, nor am I saying you should dislike the yeagerists. All I'm saying is why hold such a narrow-minded outlook on the show. Both sides are just fighting for what they believe is correct. As simple as that. I don’t necessarily hate the alliance but I hate how the story is trying to make it seem like they’re the definitive good guys. They literally got an Avengers shot an episode ago. Good guys? Here we see their friends calling them traitors when they have to kill them. Last episode, we saw Yelena giving them their crime lists. This show is screaming at you at every second that there are no good guys. Or maybe it's my fault that I expect rationality. |
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