AbuHumaid said: Doughkey said: Why did you never vote me/Scarlet? We thought you're the traitor.Kit and Jack are so good at this game, fuck me I scum read and voted you a bunch. I wasn't confident in your claim but ultimately thought you would be vig shot or copped to save us the hassle. I always pick town in vegetables case so I am incorrect in slight leaning that other people would choose the same. I also thought my ability had infinite shots from D3 until I offed myself so I was saving a shot for you. D4 I told pyro to shoot Phraze and he said "kek it's a one shot". Read my role for the first real time and what do you know? I can't read. When I told Gwen I thought skeptic had infinite shots I wasn't lying. You would have been my d5 shot. As for Scarlet she just out played me until her cop claim, I did not scum read her until then. And I forgot if I voted her or not, I figured there was already a million people on the train the fuck does it matter if I add to it. |
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Crossbell said: just wanted to say that i enjoyed my time in this game and enjoyed playing with many people i have not gotten to play with in years setup was kind of a cluster but i knew that going in generally just treated this game as a way to shoot the shit, hang out with people i haven't played with in years, and dunk on some wolves. glad i was able to accomplish all three Thar was generally the point of it tbh, so a bit sad it ended like so. I understand the effort argument, but when I'm arguably putting in the most from a no win situation I find it a hard pill to take lol. This was never going to be MU, but I honestly am at a point where elite game play is a hassle. This is a hobby and should be for fun. It's a game of seeing how smooth of a talker someone is and how tactical they are. At a point I feel like I lost the view of why I started playing this in the first play, which was to have fun and make friends not berate people and the host. Who was just trying to keep a dead game interesting for people like me and others who miss the old days that is selfish in a way, but anyone who paid attention would of knew that going in. |
JackritoJan 25, 2022 4:46 AM
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| Well, what a sad way to end this. We all knew it wasn't going to be a textbook mafia game. We all knew shit was going to happen. Those who didn't know were warned from those who did. We talked about it a lot before the sign-ups was posted. Some of us came for that old feeling from non-professional games. I'm still glad I played. It had been a few years since my last game, and even longer on MAL. It was fun while it lasted. And I died right at the perfect time, haha. (I was cop, by the way) Jackrito said: Crossbell said: just wanted to say that i enjoyed my time in this game and enjoyed playing with many people i have not gotten to play with in years setup was kind of a cluster but i knew that going in generally just treated this game as a way to shoot the shit, hang out with people i haven't played with in years, and dunk on some wolves. glad i was able to accomplish all three Thar was generally the point of it tbh, so a bit sad it ended like so. I understand the effort argument, but when I'm agruabld putting in the most from a no win situation I find it q hard pill to take lol. This was never going to be MU, but I honestly am at a point where elite game play is a hassle. This is a hobby and should be for fun. It's a game of seeing how smooth of a talker someone is and how tactical they ate. At a point I feel like I lost the view if ehy I started playing this in the first play, which was to have fun and make friends not berate people and the host. Who was just trying to keep a dead game interesting for people like me and others who miss the old dags that us selfish in a way, but anyone who paid attention would of knew that going in. I agree with you there. And seeing so many familiar names I hadn't seen in so long was really nice and in a game that supposedly would have been more laid back. I think the last time I played was during a Summer/Winter event, and I mostly did it because the team was missing a player. Although I was really surprised when I learned you were mafia. When I saw the playerbase, I was a bit afraid to see you or Lucian as scums, turned out you both rolled mafia lol. Anyway, thanks for putting up with my still complete inability to do social deduction, thanks Pyro for hosting. A bit sad we didn't get to see Pyrounga. And the other shitstorm he would have brought. Crossbell said: im retired Time to retire again. |
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_Wisp said: AbuHumaid said: welcome to my anxiety and stressed filled life, coupled with a host that decides he can do w/e he wants, and u self-voting regardless of your alignment, and people just never posting, and the hosts solve, is to yeet them, and then punish town by not telling us their alignment, for god knows what fucking reason other than, "hurr durr, town too good"I thought you didn't take the game seriously? Now you're all frustrated... I can only hope that was cell's ability, and not some kinda of anti-claim mechanic, because that is hands down one of the utterly most broken anti-claim mechanics I have ever seen, that was needed, because this game was literally breakable, and it baffles me, that this wasn't a problem noticed in the original setup, if it was also completely open we've killed 3 wolves in a row, and in worst case, if ruu and beeboy are both town, we can reach parity tmr, because the 3p just wolf sides, if we don't stop the kill tonight. and if there are 3 wolves alive right now, that is almost impossible to do, especially if the traitor can now hold the factional kill whoever said this game was town sided, is crazy, this game is just a swingy mess, where even mislynching once, given bad vig shots, just spirals the game into an inevitable town loss but that didn't need to be a problem, if vegeta wasn't a poorly designed role, and the fucking traitor wasn't randomly added to mafia chat, because, "hurr durr, town too good" +1 Allthough everyone needs to calm down a bit, post 2020 has taken a toll on us and made everyone more sensitive it seems ol |
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Gwendolly said: @Jackrito Ah shit, so you were scum all along xD I knew you were pocketing me, but in the end I was doubting myself and just accepted you as town lol I'm glad my scum radar is still on point tho! So wait .. Who was the traitor, who was Cell? phraze, jack, in that order |
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Gwendolly said: _Wisp said: welcome to my anxiety and stressed filled life, coupled with a host that decides he can do w/e he wants, and u self-voting regardless of your alignment, and people just never posting, and the hosts solve, is to yeet them, and then punish town by not telling us their alignment, for god knows what fucking reason other than, "hurr durr, town too good" I can only hope that was cell's ability, and not some kinda of anti-claim mechanic, because that is hands down one of the utterly most broken anti-claim mechanics I have ever seen, that was needed, because this game was literally breakable, and it baffles me, that this wasn't a problem noticed in the original setup, if it was also completely open we've killed 3 wolves in a row, and in worst case, if ruu and beeboy are both town, we can reach parity tmr, because the 3p just wolf sides, if we don't stop the kill tonight. and if there are 3 wolves alive right now, that is almost impossible to do, especially if the traitor can now hold the factional kill whoever said this game was town sided, is crazy, this game is just a swingy mess, where even mislynching once, given bad vig shots, just spirals the game into an inevitable town loss but that didn't need to be a problem, if vegeta wasn't a poorly designed role, and the fucking traitor wasn't randomly added to mafia chat, because, "hurr durr, town too good" +1 Allthough everyone needs to calm down a bit, post 2020 has taken a toll on us and made everyone more sensitive it seems ol Ive heard the whole "everyone's more sensitive now" bit from a few people now. That is actually just not true. At all. People complained about setups and hosting constantly. Every single game I hosted/co-hosted I have had players complain to me and the other hosts regarding EVERYTHING from not nodkilling players who made 2 posts instead of 3, not giving vote lists frequently enough, roles not being describes thuroghly and me catering towards a specific faction. Half of my games ended in arguments with these people. Nearly every game I have won people have belittled my victory because they say the game was broken. Every game I lost I've wanted to think the same. People have always, and will continue to bitch about setups. And honestly? Most of the time it is perfectly justifiable. It is their right. The people who take it and pretend there is not a problem are the biggest issue. Just because Pyro is a historically and very notably bad host does not mean he is exempt from the rules. Nobody comes to play a pyro game, they are here for the players, the fact pyro is the one who organized it is just an unfortunate circumstance. What I'm trying to say is, we all signed up to play with our homies, pyro made that as difficult as possible. If this happened 6 years ago, people would have had just as much if not more of a shit storm. You are lying if you say otherwise. |
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| Apologies for my lack of participation. Life got in the way and reminded why it has been nearly 2 years since I was able to truly participate in a game. When I started catching up and posting I did not know I was mafia and was still getting flack for my posts, so it seems i have regressed a lot. Hopefully the next time i sign up for a game I will be able to contribute in a meaningful manner. @Pyromaani Thank you for hosting, I appreciate your effort to resurrect this forum, but mafia here just isn't what it used to be. I want to say that even though many are giving you flack for how things went down I respect and appreciate your efforts. You are still one of my favorite hosts and I look forward to seeing a future pyro game. @ MafiaTeam sorry for making you guys do all the heavy lifting. @ Town fucking cry me a river. You guys are some sad sore players and should really treat your host much better than what I saw here. Bad showing for most of you (i will not name names or shame you) just know it was sad an unbecoming to read some of your posts. |
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Doughkey said: Gwendolly said: +1 Allthough everyone needs to calm down a bit, post 2020 has taken a toll on us and made everyone more sensitive it seems ol Ive heard the whole "everyone's more sensitive now" bit from a few people now. That is actually just not true. At all. People complained about setups and hosting constantly. Every single game I hosted/co-hosted I have had players complain to me and the other hosts regarding EVERYTHING from not nodkilling players who made 2 posts instead of 3, not giving vote lists frequently enough, roles not being describes thuroghly and me catering towards a specific faction. Half of my games ended in arguments with these people. Nearly every game I have won people have belittled my victory because they say the game was broken. Every game I lost I've wanted to think the same. People have always, and will continue to bitch about setups. And honestly? Most of the time it is perfectly justifiable. It is their right. The people who take it and pretend there is not a problem are the biggest issue. Just because Pyro is a historically and very notably bad host does not mean he is exempt from the rules. Nobody comes to play a pyro game, they are here for the players, the fact pyro is the one who organized it is just an unfortunate circumstance. What I'm trying to say is, we all signed up to play with our homies, pyro made that as difficult as possible. If this happened 6 years ago, people would have had just as much if not more of a shit storm. You are lying if you say otherwise. I disagree I only came because pyro asked we all knew it was going to be a shit show and anyone expecting otherwise was going to have a bad time. I was in a shitty situation this entire game because if setup and hosting. I never complained once publicly or in private. I was just here to have a good time and play with people I enjoy. This went a lot worse then I predicted because people did change. We had bad timed 6 years ago but rarely to this degree,so I disagree it would be worse because our games back then had dumb crazy shit. . I never wanted mods to get involved with this that is why we did it back here. This was never going to be a perfect game if it was planned to be it would go on out dying site. |
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Jackrito said: "I was just here to have a good time and play with people I enjoy" is directly contradictory to "I disagree I only came because pyro asked".Doughkey said: Ive heard the whole "everyone's more sensitive now" bit from a few people now. That is actually just not true. At all. People complained about setups and hosting constantly. Every single game I hosted/co-hosted I have had players complain to me and the other hosts regarding EVERYTHING from not nodkilling players who made 2 posts instead of 3, not giving vote lists frequently enough, roles not being describes thuroghly and me catering towards a specific faction. Half of my games ended in arguments with these people. Nearly every game I have won people have belittled my victory because they say the game was broken. Every game I lost I've wanted to think the same. People have always, and will continue to bitch about setups. And honestly? Most of the time it is perfectly justifiable. It is their right. The people who take it and pretend there is not a problem are the biggest issue. Just because Pyro is a historically and very notably bad host does not mean he is exempt from the rules. Nobody comes to play a pyro game, they are here for the players, the fact pyro is the one who organized it is just an unfortunate circumstance. What I'm trying to say is, we all signed up to play with our homies, pyro made that as difficult as possible. If this happened 6 years ago, people would have had just as much if not more of a shit storm. You are lying if you say otherwise. I disagree I only came because pyro asked we all knew it was going to be a shit show and anyone expecting otherwise was going to have a bad time. I was in a shitty situation this entire game because if setup and hosting. I never complained once publicly or in private. I was just here to have a good time and play with people I enjoy. This went a lot worse then I predicted because people did change. We had bad timed 6 years ago but rarely to this degree,so I disagree it would be worse because our games back then had dumb crazy shit. . I never wanted mods to get involved with this that is why we did it back here. This was never going to be a perfect game if it was planned to be it would go on out dying site. Anyone who expected more from this game simply forgot how badly a poor host can affect a game. And the player list out weighed pyro being the host. You are lying if you think games didn't get this bad on the regular. The difference is we had moderators who atleast pretended to do their job and not just try to power play on people. Old MS never would have allowed this to happen for as long as it did. I know the old school players enough to know they are not bitch made enough to just sit and take such a blatant disregard for rules. Games also became this dramatic literally every single time Grave was in a player list. If you try to blame anyone except for pyro for the disaster that is this game- you are a dillusional. |
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logic340 said: Apologies for my lack of participation. Life got in the way and reminded why it has been nearly 2 years since I was able to truly participate in a game. When I started catching up and posting I did not know I was mafia and was still getting flack for my posts, so it seems i have regressed a lot. Hopefully the next time i sign up for a game I will be able to contribute in a meaningful manner. @Pyromaani Thank you for hosting, I appreciate your effort to resurrect this forum, but mafia here just isn't what it used to be. I want to say that even though many are giving you flack for how things went down I respect and appreciate your efforts. You are still one of my favorite hosts and I look forward to seeing a future pyro game. @ MafiaTeam sorry for making you guys do all the heavy lifting. @ Town fucking cry me a river. You guys are some sad sore players and should really treat your host much better than what I saw here. Bad showing for most of you (i will not name names or shame you) just know it was sad an unbecoming to read some of your posts. Spineless |
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| Nah those last two posts were rough to read. The few people who have DM'd me in support of not being bitch-made was nice but lads... They got a point. The people here have changed, we've outgrown them. Trying to argue about pyro is a waste of time. It's something nobody would change their mind on clearly. I can only put myself out there and explain it to them so many times before I realize it's a losing battle. |
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Doughkey said: Nah those last two posts were rough to read. The few people who have DM'd me in support of not being bitch-made was nice but lads... They got a point. The people here have changed, we've outgrown them. Trying to argue about pyro is a waste of time. It's something nobody would change their mind on clearly. I can only put myself out there and explain it to them so many times before I realize it's a losing battle. I don't disagree they was mistakes my mafia teammates know I was anti a lot of his changes. So I do blame him also, but I also don't like when people get others involved who should not of being. This could of potentially being fixed through discussion rather then the nuke option. They are multiple factors at blame for what happened here I'm not going to railroad one person. Using words like outgrown is so disrespectful also, you could just call it a difference in view. I have always tried my best to be straight with people so don't appreciate this better then others view. |
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| this argument is getting old already, both sides are correct -hosts should be allowed to host what they want without forcing mods to come in to manhandle the community members (both hosts and players) -players should be allowed to criticize hosting choices because they are the ones primarily being affected by those choices. you slap someone in the face, you're going to get yelled at. neither of those freedoms should be stifled by mods (or players going to complain to mods), and everyone using ad hominem attacks are missing the point of having fun in a forum game and hanging out with the community. if this was an explicitly, officially "moderated" game then it would be different.. but this is a for-fun game. |
| @logic340 Pyro did a terrible job at hosting, and his response to everything is, "back in my time, this was ok" but at the same time, I don't expect Pyro to know the fine lines of mafia hosting, lets be honest here, in terms of hosting, there was nothing to grow out of, because he never experienced anything beyond the original fun anime mafia games, which were lax at best. one throws shit, the other throws shit, nobody wants to take responsibility The rules were already being treaded on, especially by u anyways Doki, since talking about replacing, or anyone advocating for replacements in thread, or asking someone to be modkilled, goes beyond the game thread, the hosting talking in thread, all of it breaks the game, whether people believe it or not there was a lot going on in this game that was scuffed, but at the end of the day, it was a game, and im moving on, regardless of the outcome |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| hosts and players are equal members of a community. mods are there for serious behavioral offenses and to help people who want to host and play balanced and fair games. i see people either putting pyro on a pedestal, or berating him like he should bow down to his players. remember that we are all members of a community, not servants to each other. i've seen mod interference with small to medium game infractions that should be dealt with by a host if they care to enforce their rules (maybe they dont!). remember that players and hosts should have freedoms unless they choose otherwise, with the exception of serious offense (see: MAL terms of service). unless you want this to be like a strictly/heavily moderated community. |
KitJan 26, 2022 9:13 PM
Kit said: that two, we are all humans, but you are half correct, we will remove people for OGI related reasons as well, but the behavioral side of things should be the focus, because the point of a game, is to have funhosts and players are equal members of a community. mods are there for serious behavioral offenses and to help people who want to host and play balanced and fair games. i see people either putting pyro on a pedestal, or berating him like he should bow down to his players. remember that we all all members of a community, not servants to each other. i've seen mod interference with small to medium game infractions that should be dealt with by a host if they care to enforce their rules (maybe they dont!). remember that players and hosts should have freedoms unless they choose otherwise, with the exception of serious offense (see: MAL terms of service). unless you want this to be like a strictly/heavily moderated community. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
| I still want to play a game with you guys though. |
| i don't play mafia super actively anymore, but i've been playing on Fortress of Lies occasionally and I like the community/forum software there https://www.fortressoflies.com/ |
| Jack, I didn't mean to say I've outgrown you, I meant for you to interpret it as we have outgrown each other. Maybe I have grown out of this place 'personally'? I have outgrown Pyros stunted ass, and I have outgrown a period in my life where I could ever allow a babbling toddler like Osie pretend to have power over me. I wrote a massive spiel about my thoughts on MS and the obvious people and problems that have caused the community to die but that's not how I want to go out. It would be too classic of MS for me to write up something nobody cares to do anything more than disagree with. I got a lot out of this place, but I can't see myself getting anything more out of it. I am genuinely happy this is how it all ended, I haven't done this before because I didn't want to have any stray regrets- but MS ain't it anymore. GG's everyone |
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Doughkey said: Jack, I didn't mean to say I've outgrown you, I meant for you to interpret it as we have outgrown each other. Maybe I have grown out of this place 'personally'? I have outgrown Pyros stunted ass, and I have outgrown a period in my life where I could ever allow a babbling toddler like Osie pretend to have power over me. I wrote a massive spiel about my thoughts on MS and the obvious people and problems that have caused the community to die but that's not how I want to go out. It would be too classic of MS for me to write up something nobody cares to do anything more than disagree with. I got a lot out of this place, but I can't see myself getting anything more out of it. I am genuinely happy this is how it all ended, I haven't done this before because I didn't want to have any stray regrets- but MS ain't it anymore. GG's everyone If I'm being honest say your issues, or dm at least on discord. I have various issues of mine also. I don't think anyone is truly happy with the current situation. The website condition is a sign of that. I oy got annoyed because of my awn annoyance at the situation and where we are at |
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| Wow, peoples. Honestly glad I wasn't too heavily invested in the game. MAL is still my site, even if not this club anymore. I still admin the site-wide profile design contest. It's true that this club isn't what it was years ago though.. I had the taste of ISOs, vote counts, and serious gameplay on MU. Keeping up is a struggle for lurkers. @Mishukax Would love to play a game on MAL with you again sometime. Maybe in another club lol. |
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Phraze said: there is a difference between having a problem, and not even posting at allWow, peoples. Honestly glad I wasn't too heavily invested in the game. MAL is still my site, even if not this club anymore. I still admin the site-wide profile design contest. It's true that this club isn't what it was years ago though.. I had the taste of ISOs, vote counts, and serious gameplay on MU. Keeping up is a struggle for lurkers. @Mishukax Would love to play a game on MAL with you again sometime. Maybe in another club lol. |
| blinddate she was never awake even with her eyes wide open never where she longed to be and if you’d meet her just know you were on a blind date with a dreamer |
_Wisp said: Phraze said: there is a difference between having a problem, and not even posting at allWow, peoples. Honestly glad I wasn't too heavily invested in the game. MAL is still my site, even if not this club anymore. I still admin the site-wide profile design contest. It's true that this club isn't what it was years ago though.. I had the taste of ISOs, vote counts, and serious gameplay on MU. Keeping up is a struggle for lurkers. @Mishukax Would love to play a game on MAL with you again sometime. Maybe in another club lol. Eh. True, I guess. |
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| Sad to see it end this way. Despite rolling scum, I still had fun interacting with everyone D1 just like old times. I would say I'd be down for a re-roll or a salty runback, but I'm about to get terribly busy with classes and a potential new job, so all in all GGs everyone. And special ggs to Cross for catching me in two posts, made me do a double take. Despite the turn out for this game, I still think this old club has some life to it, and it would warm my heart to see a stand-up moderator take the reigns and host a good, normal game where both sides are having fun, but that might just be a pipe dream. Props to my scumteam for making the most out of a tricky D1 situation, and special props to Jack for giving this game his all despite the situation that arose. This is the part where I'd shill for my game, but I don't think I have the time or energy to host a good one these days. Thanks for hosting Pyro. |
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LucianRoy said: was a pleasure playing with you too my manSad to see it end this way. Despite rolling scum, I still had fun interacting with everyone D1 just like old times. I would say I'd be down for a re-roll or a salty runback, but I'm about to get terribly busy with classes and a potential new job, so all in all GGs everyone. And special ggs to Cross for catching me in two posts, made me do a double take. Despite the turn out for this game, I still think this old club has some life to it, and it would warm my heart to see a stand-up moderator take the reigns and host a good, normal game where both sides are having fun, but that might just be a pipe dream. Props to my scumteam for making the most out of a tricky D1 situation, and special props to Jack for giving this game his all despite the situation that arose. This is the part where I'd shill for my game, but I don't think I have the time or energy to host a good one these days. Thanks for hosting Pyro. |
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