Tokyo Revengers
| Because boys don't cry. |
| If the person hates Sakura Matou, their opinion is automatically invalidated. |
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| I don't remember there being alot of backlash with Sakura or Eren or even Shinji, for being a crybaby because they didn't cry every single moment of the anime. But, I have seen a fair amount of criticism towards Deku and Takemitichi since they are those types of main characters who cry every single moment. It is a valid criticism because it is an easy way out to deliver an emotional impact or describe the severity of a situation. Over usage tends to only hurt the show in the long run since readers don't feel the same every time the main characters cry. Just by looking at MHA, 5 seasons in and many don't care about Deku. Tokyo Revengers is on the same path unless, it tries fix the situation at hand by actually making a Takemitchi not a crybaby hero but more than that. |
| Honestly, I kinda hate whiny mc , but that doesn't mean I can't accept weak mc. I just want a mentally strong mc. |
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ChocoKoyokoyo said: then y’all be the same ones complaining about how society doesnt allow y’all to cry đź’€Because boys don't cry. |
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| Takemichi is straight up weak and useless, ever since Moebuis Incident he acts like a big shot when he isn't and he would have cried and whined if he didn't know in the first place that Draken is gonna die |
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shivamrajput958 said: ye I have read the manga, from what I wrote previously I am talking from an Anime perspective_REDOX_ said: agreed but he got good development as the story progress you know what I mean if you readed the manga.Takemichi is straight up weak and useless, ever since Moebuis Incident he acts like a big shot when he isn't and he would have cried and whined if he didn't know in the first place that Draken is gonna die |
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| It's because the MC is the guy who gets the most of the screentime. The story revolves around him. And if all he does is crying and standing still like a moron then it becomes difficult to tolerate the show |
I love Monogatari Series |
| I don't hate whiny/weak characters, I hate dumb protagonists who think they are smart ie takemichi. I don't have a single problem with the above mentioned characters except takemichi. |
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| people who think that are sadists who dont have a soul. they only know to enjoy when other people cry and criticize at them for being that way. it doesnt matter how strong you are, you are not a human if you dont have emotions. |
| Because Shinji really is an unbearable character, which is quite evident throughout the series and in opening minutes of EoE. For Takemitchy, you can't just accept a 26 year old shedding tears every time whenever he fails to do something, even those kids he was with weren't like him. As for Eren and Sakura, I never hated them and same goes for Deku too. |
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| I like takemichi but Tokyo revengers manga gave me so many reasons to love other characters and “neglect” Takemichi. For me there isn’t that much special things ‘bout him even tho its a main character. How ever crying doesn’t mean that character is week BUT there is alot anoying characters which are just whiny. For example in Naruto Shippuden my least fav. Character is naruto just cuz the way how he’s whiny orrr when You were expecting epic fight but then came “talking no jutsu” |
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| I don't think they're poorly written, but it can be a problem if being a whiny/crybaby is their only trait, people want to see them grow as people and learn from their mistakes, not always cry about it. |
shivamrajput958 said: _Lyborick_ said: actually both takemitchi and deku got really good development in manga you got to see that in upcoming seasons maybe mha season 6 or 7(it has some of the best arc from manga and takemitchi in season 2 & 3 just wait they got their moments and belive me moments means very impactful moments and yeah I see people hating eren and sakura for being whiny you understand if you watched aot and hf and Shinji because he was like very very depressed even something its felt like even if you tell him to die he die with a smile btw Shinji was the character who influenced this tread of making little bit emotional or human characters before Shinji most of the characters where made are mostly strong mentally as well as physically in many ways.I don't remember there being alot of backlash with Sakura or Eren or even Shinji, for being a crybaby because they didn't cry every single moment of the anime. But, I have seen a fair amount of criticism towards Deku and Takemitichi since they are those types of main characters who cry every single moment. It is a valid criticism because it is an easy way out to deliver an emotional impact or describe the severity of a situation. Over usage tends to only hurt the show in the long run since readers don't feel the same every time the main characters cry. Just by looking at MHA, 5 seasons in and many don't care about Deku. Tokyo Revengers is on the same path unless, it tries fix the situation at hand by actually making a Takemitchi not a crybaby hero but more than that. As someone who reads the MHA manga, I know what will happen and I'm truly grateful for their being actual meaningful development, but at the same I can't disregard the fact that there was a 5 season wait to get that. I would have been happy if there was foreshadowing of these events or even small increments of development each arc, but that is not the case. For 5 seasons, he has been a only crybaby, and when push comes to shove he just gets shoves. The only moment I can point to him getting slivers of development is Deku Vs. Bakugo fights. I have no clue for Tokyo Revengers, but if you are saying that they get actual development in the next arc then I will have hope for Takemitichi. I think many people are misunderstand depression are not the same thing being a crybaby. That's why I would say Shinji has a justification to be actually sad. So, those who say that he is a crybaby just don't understand the depth to Shinji or are just averting from it due to how emotionally bog down one can feel. On the other hand I guess one can come up with reasons for AOT or Fate, but they are flimsy at best since every time they cry either we are shown that their emotional psyche being further broken down, or making resolving actions after that. |
NoBoDY-5 said: Why do people even call Shinji a crybaby? He is not a crybaby. He is going through one of the most realistic way one faces depression except turned to 11 due to the situation he is put in. Depression and being a crybaby aren't interchangeable. I personally have not faced the Shinji haters. They probably have either hate him for being depressed, which they personally have never experienced, or they just don't like the heavy emotional aspect to a show. _Lyborick_ said: fufu,shinji has so many haters for being a crybaby and for running from the troubles but they don't understand that shinji is the one of the most realistic MC.I don't remember there being alot of backlash with Sakura or Eren or even Shinji, for being a crybaby because they didn't cry every single moment of the anime. But, I have seen a fair amount of criticism towards Deku and Takemitichi since they are those types of main characters who cry every single moment. It is a valid criticism because it is an easy way out to deliver an emotional impact or describe the severity of a situation. Over usage tends to only hurt the show in the long run since readers don't feel the same every time the main characters cry. Just by looking at MHA, 5 seasons in and many don't care about Deku. Tokyo Revengers is on the same path unless, it tries fix the situation at hand by actually making a Takemitchi not a crybaby hero but more than that. |
| You know. People can have certain preferences when it comes to characters they like or dislike. There's no set standards to determine whether or not you should like that character. For example, I hate characters that constantly cry. Do I think they're a bad character? Most of the time, no. However, I do believe that certain character archetypes are a lot more beloved from a writing standpoint. If you take a look at characters outside of anime, the majority of the most beloved aren't crybaby protagonist. |
| I don't mind criers, if anything I like a protagonist that can cry. However, some criers are also pussies and I hate pussies. There are always exceptions to the rule though. I guess it just depends on what kind of mood I'm in. |
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shivamrajput958 said: takemichi is literally a 26 year old in a middle schooler body how is he a child.Kaiseki said: yeah but these characters are children and you can't expect them to be that much mentally strong.yeah I don't like when a fully fledged adult cry over small things.Honestly, I kinda hate whiny mc , but that doesn't mean I can't accept weak mc. I just want a mentally strong mc. |
| How can anyone hate sakura from fate,like did we even watch the same show,eren in the early seasons and takemichi in the anime were annoying and weren't good written characters at all,later on they may get better but we are talking about what has been adapted in the anime,as for whiny characters subaru is whiny and cries a lot but many people love him because he is really well written and you can fully sympathise with his situation and character. |
shivamrajput958 said: Subaru actually does stuff and grows (a lot) Takemichi literally does nothing and just cries every episode.Deathlydash said: sorry I don't know about him because I doesn't watch re:zero till now so that's why I don't put in the list I hope you understand.but from what I heard he got good development in the anime but I can't give opinion until I watched the show.Subaru also cries and is whiny |
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