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Sep 20, 2021 12:09 PM
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Apart from him being overrated, why else do people hate him and write him off? I also really don't get why hating a character because of the hype is a justified reason, because I don't think it is. If you hate a character, it should be because of the way they're written or their motives or their personality. It should not be because of the fans because they do not impact the character. Very, very rarely do I see anyone mentioning or complaining about how Levi is written. It's all about the hype he gets.

I've seen people say he has no development and no depth. This is not true. He had his own character route in the first half of Season 3, which was also a major highlight. You don't have a character route if you're not going to develop or even learn something. Levi's case is no different.

Granted, he's not as well written as Eren, Erwin, Reiner and Zeke but he's still a really strong and complex character. He largely contributes to the story. His backstory is important to the narrative yet people are brushing that off.

Is there a valid reason as to why he's so hated? With Eren and Mikasa, at least people give logical answers. With Levi, they don't. And I'd like to know why.
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Sep 20, 2021 12:11 PM
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I think people hate him because he is super overrated. Just like demon slayer, people hate it because it is overrated af.

Sep 20, 2021 12:12 PM
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Amatniki said:
I think people hate him because he is super overrated. Just like demon slayer, people hate it because it is overrated af.


Yes but does being overrated mean it's a logical reason? I know the hype is annoying but it says nothing about the character. Like I said, with everyone else, they are disliked because of they way they are, not because of the hype they get.
Sep 20, 2021 12:18 PM
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Amatniki said:
I think people hate him because he is super overrated. Just like demon slayer, people hate it because it is overrated af.


I think the way people hype up Eren is annoying but I don't hate Eren for that. He's still an amazing character. He's one of my favourite characters of all time. People get so carried away with Eren but I'm more focused on his character and what he does. The same should apply to Levi.
Sep 20, 2021 12:21 PM
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He is very overrated and just kind of annoying.
Like he's super popular in the fandom but as a character I don't like him.
So therefore when you see him everywhere in the fandom it starts to annoy you.
Sep 20, 2021 12:21 PM
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He isn't "so hated". He's one of the most popular characters on the show. If you see that someone shitposts about Levi, who cares?
Sep 20, 2021 12:25 PM
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overpowered cool mentor type, thats the kind of character i hate the most which is also why i hate gojo, sure levi isn't a mentor, thats about as much as he's different from that archetype, a badass character that is all about being badass
Sep 20, 2021 12:25 PM
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He is very overrated and just kind of annoying.
Like he's super popular in the fandom but as a character I don't like him.
So therefore when you see him everywhere in the fandom it starts to annoy you.


All of you are completely missing the whole point of this post. I asked if there are any other reasons apart from him being overrated.
Sep 20, 2021 12:26 PM
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BlueJay_Tee said:
SynapticBlast said:
He is very overrated and just kind of annoying.
Like he's super popular in the fandom but as a character I don't like him.
So therefore when you see him everywhere in the fandom it starts to annoy you.


All of you are completely missing the whole point of this post. I asked if there are any other reasons apart from him being overrated.


^^ He is kind of annyoing.
Sep 20, 2021 12:26 PM
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He’s a boring character with no interesting character development.
Sep 20, 2021 12:27 PM

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I don't think the title is correct?

If It we're "Why is Kirito so hated"
I would understand, But Levi?
Levi is almost everyones favorite character!
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Sep 20, 2021 12:28 PM
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TacoitoMan said:
He’s a boring character with no interesting character development.


Well he did have his own character route. But if that's what you think, then okay. But I don't agree. None of the other characters that had their own route are written off as having no development. i.e there are people that don't like Historia. But they won't deny that she changed through events. You can dislike a character but still acknowledge what they did.
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SynapticBlast said:
BlueJay_Tee said:


All of you are completely missing the whole point of this post. I asked if there are any other reasons apart from him being overrated.


^^ He is kind of annyoing.


Fair enough. But what kind of annoying? Like his attitude or something?
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I know a LoT of people love Levi I’m hearing for the first time that he’s hated. I never really cared for him ever since the scene of him kicking Eren and I know it was to help him but idk I didn’t like it lol
Sep 20, 2021 12:33 PM
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DoobieSam said:
He isn't "so hated". He's one of the most popular characters on the show. If you see that someone shitposts about Levi, who cares?


Because people are always moaning and complaining about him whenever he gets mentioned in a popular character poll. So I wanted to bring this up.
Sep 20, 2021 12:38 PM
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Don't hate him, but don't like him either, just find him meh. AoT built itself as a world in which humans are on the brink of extinction such is the threat of the titans, that humans are vastly outmatched and incredibly vulnerable. It just then doesn't sit well with me to have Levi and Mikasa flying around like supersoldiers 360noscoping titans like it's nothing. They feel like they should be in another anime.

Add that he's kind of a flat and boring character, I don't hate him but I don't really get the hype for him (or Mikasa).
Sep 20, 2021 12:42 PM

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Compared to any other anime characters Levi is hella basic. But I dont think Levi really deserves the hate he gets. Mikasa on the other hand deserves all the hate
Sep 20, 2021 12:43 PM
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Don't hate him, but don't like him either, just find him meh. AoT built itself as a world in which humans are on the brink of extinction such is the threat of the titans, that humans are vastly outmatched and incredibly vulnerable. It just then doesn't sit well with me to have Levi and Mikasa flying around like supersoldiers 360noscoping titans like it's nothing. They feel like they should be in another anime.

Add that he's kind of a flat and boring character, I don't hate him but I don't really get the hype for him (or Mikasa).


Fair enough. I can agree on Mikasa because as a main character, she does lack real development. I can't think of any highlights she's done since Season 1. Levi has had quite a lot of memorable moments. In the manga and PS4 version, he has many scenes of great leadership and determination. You can thank WIT for watering down his character so much and leaving out so many essential details. Mikasa is much better in the manga aswell. The anime didn't do a great job adapting the characters. But if you watch Levi in Wings of Freedom, you'll see what I mean. He's far more than just a beyblade or a Titan killer. He's almost like a second Erwin. And again, this is the PS4 version I'm talking about, not the anime.
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He is labeled as an overrated character,that's more than enough reason for anyone to hate him.Sounds stupid but it's the only one I can think of
Sep 20, 2021 12:48 PM
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Compared to any other anime characters Levi is hella basic. But I dont think Levi really deserves the hate he gets. Mikasa on the other hand deserves all the hate


Many people judge him for his personality. Like he's stoic and everything. But with so many analysis videos of Levi, I've come to realise that he's not your typical badass that has their own goals and merits. More so, he doesn't want to improve himself but wants others to improve. He helps motivate other people and make a great change for them. That's what I think but you may disagree, But that's how I view Levi. Not so much a developmental character but an influential one. I don't think you see that many badass characters going out of their way to put other people's ambitions first and foremost.
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He's just a generic "stoic badass/mentor with dark and depressing past" Shonen trope that's been done to death but I think he still works really well in the context of the show
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BlueJay_Tee said:
Fernando10095 said:
Compared to any other anime characters Levi is hella basic. But I dont think Levi really deserves the hate he gets. Mikasa on the other hand deserves all the hate


Many people judge him for his personality. Like he's stoic and everything. But with so many analysis videos of Levi, I've come to realise that he's not your typical badass that has their own goals and merits. More so, he doesn't want to improve himself but wants others to improve. He helps motivate other people and make a great change for them. That's what I think but you may disagree, But that's how I view Levi. Not so much a developmental character but an influential one. I don't think you see that many badass characters going out of their way to put other people's ambitions first and foremost.


Being a badass doesnt make your character a well written one. And yes I seen alot of characters who put others ambitions first before theirs. Two of the most popular being Araragi Koyomi and Subaru Natsuki. Both of them are actually well written not like Levi and care about other people before they care about themself
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Fernando10095 said:
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Many people judge him for his personality. Like he's stoic and everything. But with so many analysis videos of Levi, I've come to realise that he's not your typical badass that has their own goals and merits. More so, he doesn't want to improve himself but wants others to improve. He helps motivate other people and make a great change for them. That's what I think but you may disagree, But that's how I view Levi. Not so much a developmental character but an influential one. I don't think you see that many badass characters going out of their way to put other people's ambitions first and foremost.


Being a badass doesnt make your character a well written one. And yes I seen alot of characters who put others ambitions first before theirs. Two of the most popular being Araragi Koyomi and Subaru Natsuki. Both of them are actually well written not like Levi and care about other people before they care about themself


I didn't say that being a badass makes your character well written. I said that regardless of your own intentions and you change your motivations and you learn from them, that's what makes a character well written. Also I noticed you have Clannad After Story in your favourites. I would not say that is a well written anime at all. The writing and drama is terrible. I know it's your opinion and we can agree to disagree.
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HakeemP said:
He's just a generic "stoic badass/mentor with dark and depressing past" Shonen trope that's been done to death but I think he still works really well in the context of the show


Well Eren has done similar things to other Shounen protagonists to be fair. It is hard to not be cliche sometimes.
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Ppl love to hate on popular things...it’s that simple. I guess someone or something else’s popularity shows these ppl how inferior they or their taste in stuff is, so they just let it out through hate.
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BlueJay_Tee said:
Fernando10095 said:


Being a badass doesnt make your character a well written one. And yes I seen alot of characters who put others ambitions first before theirs. Two of the most popular being Araragi Koyomi and Subaru Natsuki. Both of them are actually well written not like Levi and care about other people before they care about themself


I didn't say that being a badass makes your character well written. I said that regardless of your own intentions and you change your motivations and you learn from them, that's what makes a character well written. Also I noticed you have Clannad After Story in your favourites. I would not say that is a well written anime at all. I know it's your opinion and we can agree to disagree.


My favorite animes dont have nothing to do with Levi character u dont have anything on your favorites so I cant judge u at all. And I think aot is a bad written anime especially the ending but that doesnt matter to Levi's character
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He isn't. He's loved.
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Fernando10095 said:
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I didn't say that being a badass makes your character well written. I said that regardless of your own intentions and you change your motivations and you learn from them, that's what makes a character well written. Also I noticed you have Clannad After Story in your favourites. I would not say that is a well written anime at all. I know it's your opinion and we can agree to disagree.


My favorite animes dont have nothing to do with Levi character u dont have anything on your favorites so I cant judge u at all. And I think aot is a bad written anime the ending but that doesbt matter to Levi's character


I used to be on MAL before back in 2012 but took a long break and I now have a different account. I was referring to Clannad as an example of something that is popular in the community and ends up being controversial.
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He is: overrated, cool and edgy to the point that it's annoying, boring character, no personality and overall pretty bad written.
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He is: overrated, cool and edgy to the point that it's annoying, boring character, no personality and overall pretty bad written.


I'm interested to know why you think he's badly written. I won't attack you, but I would like to know why.
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He is: overrated, cool and edgy to the point that it's annoying, boring character, no personality and overall pretty bad written.


I'm interested to know why you think he's badly written. I won't attack you, but I would like to know why.
for the points I just made
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I started hating him when he beat Eren in court and didn't even apologize later.
Also his lack of concern for his comrades' deaths also pisses me off
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DarkRxse333 said:
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I'm interested to know why you think he's badly written. I won't attack you, but I would like to know why.
for the points I just made


But I pointed out that he had his own character route in Season 3. So why is it all the other characters in AOT that have their own routes get praised for it and Levi gets hated for it? if he had no character route at all then fair enough. But as he did, people moan about it. This was a character that certain fans wanted to see what was so popular about him. We got it and then complaints arise. Kind of ironic.
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Wait, Levi is hated?! O-0 I thought everyone loves him

Be gentle w me if u get angry for my answers

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BlueJay_Tee said:
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My favorite animes dont have nothing to do with Levi character u dont have anything on your favorites so I cant judge u at all. And I think aot is a bad written anime the ending but that doesbt matter to Levi's character


I used to be on MAL before back in 2012 but took a long break and I now have a different account. I was referring to Clannad as an example of something that is popular in the community and ends up being controversial.


Did not ask at all about your mal account. And this still isnt about Levi and I said already I dont think Levi deserves the hate because hes popular he only deserves it if hes a bad written character like Mikasa.
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I started hating him when he beat Eren in court and didn't even apologize later.
Also his lack of concern for his comrades deaths' also pisses me off


Have you only seen Season 1? If so, then I understand that. He's not the nicest person in Season 1. This all changes in Season 3. He does apologise to Eren is the PS4 version though.
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Tbh I just hate those poker faced emotionless Mary Sues that are in abundance in anime, specially in Shonen.

They are "badass". That's it, that's everything there is to them. I don't know why Japanese media always go head over heels for these one dimensional characters, but that's the way they are I guess. Doing badass things without breaking a sweat and without showing any emotions apparently trumps having a rich personality.

I guess it's mostly younger people that loves characters like this?

I like JoJo for instance, but I find Jotaro to be the worst JoJo for this very own reason.
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Fernando10095 said:
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I used to be on MAL before back in 2012 but took a long break and I now have a different account. I was referring to Clannad as an example of something that is popular in the community and ends up being controversial.


Did not ask at all about your mal account. And this still isnt about Levi and I said already I dont think Levi deserves the hate because hes popular he only deserves it if hes a bad written character like Mikasa.


I was explaining why I didn't have any favourites in my list. I did used to be on MAL years ago. Why do you think Mikasa is badly written? I don't think she's a great character but I don't think she's badly written either.
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he is nowhere near "a well written character" for the hype he gets. And the fandom defends him like crazy when he's not even that special.

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he is nowhere near "a well written character" for the hype he gets. And the fandom defends him like crazy when he's not even that special.


Some Levi fans take things too far, I won't deny that. But Eren fans have done the same yet people turn a blind eye to it in comparison.
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BlueJay_Tee said:
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Did not ask at all about your mal account. And this still isnt about Levi and I said already I dont think Levi deserves the hate because hes popular he only deserves it if hes a bad written character like Mikasa.


I was explaining why I didn't have any favourites in my list. I did used to be on MAL years ago. Why do you think Mikasa is badly written? I don't think she's a great character but I don't think she's badly written either.


Mikasa is literally a bodyguard to Eren nothing else no personality and hardly ever speaks but when she does it's the same words Eren. Shes literally a slave to Eren
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He's just a generic "stoic badass/mentor with dark and depressing past" Shonen trope that's been done to death but I think he still works really well in the context of the show


Well Eren has done similar things to other Shounen protagonists to be fair. It is hard to not be cliche sometimes.
SOME MANGA SPOILERS IN MY COMMENT BELOW BE WARNED I think with Eren (who is excruciatingly annoying in season 1), the show does a good job subverting the usual Shonen tropes. Like how his mindset of "I'm the good guy everyone else in the world is bad" is what leads to him becoming the villian of the show which is character development. Meanwhile Levi is just the cool stoic badass from the first chapter he's introduced in to the last
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Since when was Levi hated
A bad anime what do you do. Ignore It.

What do you do on MAL when you see a bad anime. Drop it Obviously
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i've dropped all respect for you right when you said "him being overrated"

but yeah i agree, people hate him bcz hes popular, or they don't hate him but love to get the fans riled up, just like when they say 'aot is mid' or 'HxH is mid' they just love to piss people off and i completely understand why they do that bcz its fun lol
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Hated? Are you kidding me?
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HakeemP said:
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Well Eren has done similar things to other Shounen protagonists to be fair. It is hard to not be cliche sometimes.
SOME MANGA SPOILERS IN MY COMMENT BELOW BE WARNED I think with Eren (who is excruciatingly annoying in season 1), the show does a good job subverting the usual Shonen tropes. Like how his mindset of "I'm the good guy everyone else in the world is bad" is what leads to him becoming the villian of the show which is character development. Meanwhile Levi is just the cool stoic badass from the first chapter he's introduced in to the last


Well see, this is exactly where things go wrong. Just because Eren has had a major glow up, his fans now completely dismiss everything Levi went through in the previous season. If AOT ended at Season 3, would people be pushing Levi aside like that or would they acknowledge the events he went through and the hardships he encountered? He learned something. He gained merit from something. In Season 3, he was a respected character, despite the overwhelming hype. Levi served a purpose. He was not there just to "look badass" Isayama himself even wrote many canon facts about Levi and what makes him important to the story. Now I know this one is not so interesting but it does speak volumes about his character, He's the most emotional character. Isayama confirmed this. He suffers from insomnia because he has recurring nightmares about losing everyone. I will gladly show you the citations.Granted, the anime watered down his character In the manga and PS4 version, he 's much more fleshed out, In the scene with Historia, he admits himself he's an abnormal. He doesn't consider himself worthy of admiration. Again, that one scene speaks volumes about him and what he stands for. If you did more research, you'll find he's really not that stoic. And like I said before, the main character finally gets the treatment he deserves but it doesn't mean other characters can be pushed aside as if they're nothing.
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Because there is just a special group of anime fans that just go around and screech about anything popular, just ignore them and like what you like.
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so hated? apart from this thread, haven't seen anyone hating on him. i don't like him but i think he's a lot more loved than hated. i mean, he's the second most favorited character on mal.



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I started hating him when he beat Eren in court and didn't even apologize later.
Also his lack of concern for his comrades deaths' also pisses me off


Have you only seen Season 1? If so, then I understand that. He's not the nicest person in Season 1. This all changes in Season 3. He does apologise to Eren is the PS4 version though.

As far as I know it's not manga canon so it doesn't matter
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aktiwkunn said:
BlueJay_Tee said:


Have you only seen Season 1? If so, then I understand that. He's not the nicest person in Season 1. This all changes in Season 3. He does apologise to Eren is the PS4 version though.

As far as I know it's not manga cannon so it doesn't matter


It's still canon. Just not manga canon.
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