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Apr 23, 2021 2:27 AM
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First off I want to clear something up to the people who will inevitably say "Doesn't matter dude, imagine caring about favorites lmao" Yes, favorites don't matter, but that also doesn't matter and I don't care, I will make this thread regardless.

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A year ago before season 2, Emilia wasn't even in the top 50 favorite characters in MAL, and the day S2P2 came out she was at 30k favorites, in only 4 months her favorite count nearly doubled, currently at a respectable 57k, although I can see some of it being from bots, there is no doubt that people's perspective of Emilia has changed due to Season 2 Part 2 where she finally got her time to shine and her character having to develop so much, if you would ask what people thought of Emilia a year ago or even before S2P2, people would say she's an emotionless doll, generic waifu bait and standard one-dimensional FMC, etc etc, but that has changed a lot due to S2P2, she's at a 57k favorite count, still rapidly increasing, currently 19th highest, and 4th highest for female characters, inching closer and closer to Mikasa from AoT and might become the 3rd female character in a month or two.

What do you think about this? and not just about the favorite count but also about Emilia as a character, do you think she has improved a lot over the course of Season 2? Or do you feel she was still the same as before? Regardless, all opinions are welcome of course, don't just attack people just because they don't have the same opinion as you.(Looking at some of my fellow Re:Zero and particularly, Emilia fans, please don't make a war.)
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Apr 23, 2021 3:01 AM
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Not so sure of how to respond to this.

I have to say that the anime hides a lot of subtleties to her character in comparison to the WN (or LN). There's a lot more strange circumstances around her behaviour and what possibly goes through her head.

Speaking from the anime alone, I do think she has somewhat grown as a character because her past, a portion of it rather, shed more light regarding her behaviour and motivation. I'll wait for her development in later arcs to come to a more grounded conclusion. So far, I'm happy with how she's presented in Arcs 5 and 6.

Naturally, there's far more interesting stuff regarding her in the novels which makes me appreciate her even more than I did in the anime. It is probably Tappei being too careful around letting out details about her character, for reasons known only to him. The details are well hidden in the WN/LN but almost non-existent in the anime. Time will only tell how the anime shapes things up later on.

I don't know what classifies as 'generic' waifu bait, as I typically hold that for characters who act like a total yes-sir around the main character. Emilia did not and does not showcase any of that to me.
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Apr 23, 2021 3:56 AM
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I'll keep it short. Tbh not just emilia but almost all the cast and everything about rezero changed in last 25 episodes and this made it from a good show to yes this is one of the best animes I've ever watched. For emilia I absolutely love her development and adore her for her cuteness in between but there's also other characters like roswaal,otto, Garfield and so many more absolutely made me fall in Love with them. Also what can I say rezero is a masterpiece I can write so much praising it but I would like to keep it short nonetheless.
Apr 23, 2021 4:13 AM
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Imo, in the first season Emilia didn't have that much character development but I still liked her, she was nice, caring and loving. But in the second season I LOVED HER. Her development was very much well needed and it was my favorite arc!
Apr 23, 2021 4:30 AM
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One of my problems with season 1 is how she just basically disappears in the second half of it. I loved everything about her in season 2 and I thought her past was really well done. She’s definitely one of my favorite characters from any anime. Can’t wait for season 3!
Apr 23, 2021 5:26 AM
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I hate emilia and i don't care about her, but i understand why people like her more. She really got more emphasis and development in second season.
Apr 23, 2021 5:52 AM
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thx for this post
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Apr 23, 2021 6:01 AM
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Her recent development was easily one of my favourite things about s2 p2
Apr 23, 2021 6:17 AM
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YOU HEARD THAT REM FANS? FUCK REM, EMILIA SUPREMACY! All jokes aside thats great. She deserves it because of the development she got throughout season 2 which made her my favorite Re:Zero character. Although I wouldn't put her in my favorites, because although she is a great character, my favorites are only for my waifu's, characters I can relate to, or characters I consider special.

Emilia hasn't reached any of those yet and I doubt she will, but still a very great character.
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Apr 23, 2021 6:54 AM

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To be honest, Emilia from season 1 wasn't very special to me. She's a good character, but that was just that. But then when season 2 (including p2)was airing, she's becoming more interesting. I saw her character being improved throughout the second season. I like her more than she was in the first season. I think that her development improved a lot.
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Apr 23, 2021 6:55 AM
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No Re:Zero character deserves more than 3 favourites.
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Xsadersadd said:
No Re:Zero character deserves more than 3 favourites.


Sorry for doing this to you man, but I gotta bring the Re:Zero god himself here. The man who adds anything that praises Re:Zero and shows it as a masterpiece to his bio. The legend himself, I summon, @Okeanix
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AnimeLeviathan said:
Xsadersadd said:
No Re:Zero character deserves more than 3 favourites.


Sorry for doing this to you man, but I gotta bring the Re:Zero god himself here. The man who adds anything that praises Re:Zero and shows it as a masterpiece to his bio. The legend himself, I summon, @Okeanix
I'm think he got banned lmao
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AnimeLeviathan said:
Xsadersadd said:
No Re:Zero character deserves more than 3 favourites.


Sorry for doing this to you man, but I gotta bring the Re:Zero god himself here. The man who adds anything that praises Re:Zero and shows it as a masterpiece to his bio. The legend himself, I summon, @Okeanix


I'll quote what I said in my post...

(Looking at some of my fellow Re:Zero and particularly, Emilia fans, please don't make a war.)

Please don't tag him
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Apr 23, 2021 8:08 AM
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JeXxTaR said:
Hopefully Subaru can receive the same treatment because he's really overhated

i mean subaru got the most character development from this season imo. the trial let us learn more bout his past and he changed alot compare to last season .
Apr 23, 2021 9:06 AM
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Can anyone tell me why Mikasa is above her she does not even have any character development at all . Her solo motive is to keep ereh alive we saw in S2 she was happy because eren was saved but don't care about anyone else, as for Emilia she shines a lot she was already my favorite before S2 because of frozen bond.
Apr 23, 2021 11:02 AM
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I think it's really deserved. She's really grown a lot compared to the early season 1 days




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Apr 23, 2021 3:22 PM

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Gilgameshuu said:
First off I want to clear something up to the people who will inevitably say "Doesn't matter dude, imagine caring about favorites lmao" Yes, favorites don't matter, but that also doesn't matter and I don't care, I will make this thread regardless.

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A year ago before season 2, Emilia wasn't even in the top 50 favorite characters in MAL, and the day S2P2 came out she was at 30k favorites, in only 4 months her favorite count nearly doubled, currently at a respectable 57k, although I can see some of it being from bots, there is no doubt that people's perspective of Emilia has changed due to Season 2 Part 2 where she finally got her time to shine and her character having to develop so much, if you would ask what people thought of Emilia a year ago or even before S2P2, people would say she's an emotionless doll, generic waifu bait and standard one-dimensional FMC, etc etc, but that has changed a lot due to S2P2, she's at a 57k favorite count, still rapidly increasing, currently 19th highest, and 4th highest for female characters, inching closer and closer to Mikasa from AoT and might become the 3rd female character in a month or two.

What do you think about this? and not just about the favorite count but also about Emilia as a character, do you think she has improved a lot over the course of Season 2? Or do you feel she was still the same as before? Regardless, all opinions are welcome of course, don't just attack people just because they don't have the same opinion as you.(Looking at some of my fellow Re:Zero and particularly, Emilia fans, please don't make a war.)
I check those lists everyday and was very happy to see best girl make her way to top 20 😭😭
Apr 24, 2021 12:12 AM
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Very well deserved. But I want to see the rise of Subaru's popularity. He is one of my favourite protagonists in all of anime/ manga.
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WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO HAVE SUBARU AND BEATRICE IN THEIR FAVOURITES
Apr 25, 2021 6:26 AM

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When I watched season 1 of Re:Zero, I really liked the show. It was pretty good but wasn't quite in my top shows.

It's when I read Arc IV of the web novel that I really fell in love with the story and its characters.
Emilia is one of my favourite characters thanks to her story and how relatable she can get.
I absolutely love seeing her grow as a character throughout the arcs, as she become more and more active and starts acting less like a child.

The thing I dislike the most about her to this day is how she's still quite an airhead. It's perfectly fine not to catch every little detail in some cases because she didn't learn about the subject yet, but sometimes she really acts like an idiot. Even if it doesn't play a big part at all in the show, the story highlights it by plainly saying it out loud and praising this side of Emilia as "cute". I don't know how plain stupidity is cute and I think it's quite a shame to depict it that way. It always gives me that strange feeling that Subaru wants to take advantage of her because of that. It kind of kills a part of the wholesomeness of their relation to me.

However, despite of this, I still think she's a very interesting character with some of the best moments in the series.

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Even if it doesn't play a big part at all in the show, the story highlights it by plainly saying it out loud and praising this side of Emilia as "cute". I don't know how plain stupidity is cute and I think it's quite a shame to depict it that way. It always gives me that strange feeling that Subaru wants to take advantage of her because of that. It kind of kills a part of the wholesomeness of their relation to me.

I agree with this. If I had to guess, Tappei appears to be rather keen on presenting her from Subaru's POV, with respect to depicting such kind of stupidity as cute. It's at times evident in the way Subaru behaves or responds to her in the later arcs.
Apr 27, 2021 4:40 AM
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I'm a WN Emilia fan but holy fuck this season was a disaster in terms of handling her character. Reason To Believe went from a 10/10 moment into one of the most contrived confessions I've ever seen. Voice acting felt weak during the Roswaal confrontation. And she did jack shit in the rabbit fight. If I only watched the anime I'd hate Emilia ngl. None of what got me attached to her character in the novels were done well. I am actually impressed they managed to fuck her up so bad that 95% of her scenes completely lacked impact. The anime actually managed to make me miss Rem and dislike Emilia even though I love Emilia and hate Rem in the WN. It's actually insane.

That said, Emilia's character is still there, the directors just forgot to make people give a shit about her.

I don't care what people say, Rie Takahashi as Emilia just doesn't work, she sounds annoying and forced as fuck, she couldn't even express anger convincingly during the Roswaal scene.

Season 2 Cour 2 was like the Director publicly humiliating Emilia's character and thinking that people will like her when he cuts out all the impact from her scene.

Arc 4 is also the only time she received meaningful character development, I just want to congratulate the people at White Fox for screwing it up in such a masterful manner.
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GangstaAkagi said:
No Re:Zero character deserves more than 3 favourites.


That’s a bit harsh considering you gave s1, s2 p1, s2 p2 a 6, 4, 5 respectively meaning you thought it was either below average or average so I’m kind of just confused by what you said their is no way with this type of show could anyone have less than 3 favorite he’ll I would bet they had something like 30+ favorites before the anime came out
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Jannn said:
WE NEED MORE PEOPLE TO HAVE SUBARU AND BEATRICE IN THEIR FAVOURITES


I’m quite sure those 2 will get more favorites once a season 3 is released and Season 4 if that happens
Apr 27, 2021 6:10 AM
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AnimeLeviathan said:
YOU HEARD THAT REM FANS? FUCK REM, EMILIA SUPREMACY! All jokes aside thats great. She deserves it because of the development she got throughout season 2 which made her my favorite Re:Zero character. Although I wouldn't put her in my favorites, because although she is a great character, my favorites are only for my waifu's, characters I can relate to, or characters I consider special.

Emilia hasn't reached any of those yet and I doubt she will, but still a very great character.


This, anime Emilia isn't a bad character anymore and she did get more development this season. But what the anime failed at and the novels succeeded at in this arc was getting the viewers to give a shit about her character and her relationship with Subaru. Her relationship with Subaru is just ass in the anime honestly especially with that cringe ass confession which was supposed to feel natural and carthartic in the novels ended up feeling awkward and uninteresting. The anime gives the viewers little reason to root for their relationship. Emilia's newfound display of resolve also lacked impact in the anime, being outshined by multiple characters during the climax.
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toy_reviewer54 said:
AnimeLeviathan said:
YOU HEARD THAT REM FANS? FUCK REM, EMILIA SUPREMACY! All jokes aside thats great. She deserves it because of the development she got throughout season 2 which made her my favorite Re:Zero character. Although I wouldn't put her in my favorites, because although she is a great character, my favorites are only for my waifu's, characters I can relate to, or characters I consider special.

Emilia hasn't reached any of those yet and I doubt she will, but still a very great character.


This, anime Emilia isn't a bad character anymore and she did get more development this season. But what the anime failed at and the novels succeeded at in this arc was getting the viewers to give a shit about her character and her relationship with Subaru. Her relationship with Subaru is just ass in the anime honestly especially with that cringe ass confession which was supposed to feel natural and carthartic in the novels ended up feeling awkward and uninteresting. The anime gives the viewers little reason to root for their relationship. Emilia's newfound display of resolve also lacked impact in the anime, being outshined by multiple characters during the climax.


Precisely why im gonna read the novel instead lol.
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Reason to believe is probably the worst episode of Re:Zero so far which heavily damaged my opinion on anime Emilia, it had virtually no impact even though it was such an important scene. I haven't seen anyone say that scene was good/amazing with a straight face.
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Reason to believe is probably the worst episode of Re:Zero so far which heavily damaged my opinion on anime Emilia, it had virtually no impact even though it was such an important scene. I haven't seen anyone say that scene was good/amazing with a straight face.

It's literally my 2nd favorite episode of the entire series, second only to Episode 10 of Part 2, and I occasionally rewatch the scene. Do you have a problem with that?
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toy_reviewer54 said:
I'm a WN Emilia fan but holy fuck this season was a disaster in terms of handling her character. Reason To Believe went from a 10/10 moment into one of the most contrived confessions I've ever seen. Voice acting felt weak during the Roswaal confrontation. And she did jack shit in the rabbit fight. If I only watched the anime I'd hate Emilia ngl. None of what got me attached to her character in the novels were done well. I am actually impressed they managed to fuck her up so bad that 95% of her scenes completely lacked impact. The anime actually managed to make me miss Rem and dislike Emilia even though I love Emilia and hate Rem in the WN. It's actually insane.

That said, Emilia's character is still there, the directors just forgot to make people give a shit about her.

I don't care what people say, Rie Takahashi as Emilia just doesn't work, she sounds annoying and forced as fuck, she couldn't even express anger convincingly during the Roswaal scene.


I can relate to this. While I thought Rie was brilliant in Season 1, she really wasn't it especially in Cour 2. Same thoughts regarding the Roswaal scene.

And yeah, the way the anime tackled her arc was very disappointing. I do think Reason to Believe was good, but I don't blame people for thinking it was contrived. All the cuts leading up to it, the weak direction/presentation, all added up to make a scene that would've put From Zero to shame to... an okay one?

Felt like the anime wanted to prioritize her more as a "waifu" than a "character", as with how they cut a lot of scenes but they absolutely *had* to keep & draw focus to the infantilizing "I got kissed so I'm pregnant" gag.

toy_reviewer54 said:
Reason to believe is probably the worst episode of Re:Zero so far which heavily damaged my opinion on anime Emilia, it had virtually no impact even though it was such an important scene. I haven't seen anyone say that scene was good/amazing with a straight face.


Episode 50 exists
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Gilgameshuu said:
toy_reviewer54 said:
Reason to believe is probably the worst episode of Re:Zero so far which heavily damaged my opinion on anime Emilia, it had virtually no impact even though it was such an important scene. I haven't seen anyone say that scene was good/amazing with a straight face.

It's literally my 2nd favorite episode of the entire series, second only to Episode 10 of Part 2, and I occasionally rewatch the scene. Do you have a problem with that?

I don't have a problem with it being your favorite as long as you don't say it's objectively good.
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Jaereku said:
toy_reviewer54 said:
I'm a WN Emilia fan but holy fuck this season was a disaster in terms of handling her character. Reason To Believe went from a 10/10 moment into one of the most contrived confessions I've ever seen. Voice acting felt weak during the Roswaal confrontation. And she did jack shit in the rabbit fight. If I only watched the anime I'd hate Emilia ngl. None of what got me attached to her character in the novels were done well. I am actually impressed they managed to fuck her up so bad that 95% of her scenes completely lacked impact. The anime actually managed to make me miss Rem and dislike Emilia even though I love Emilia and hate Rem in the WN. It's actually insane.

That said, Emilia's character is still there, the directors just forgot to make people give a shit about her.

I don't care what people say, Rie Takahashi as Emilia just doesn't work, she sounds annoying and forced as fuck, she couldn't even express anger convincingly during the Roswaal scene.


I can relate to this. While I thought Rie was brilliant in Season 1, she really wasn't it especially in Cour 2. Same thoughts regarding the Roswaal scene.

And yeah, the way the anime tackled her arc was very disappointing. I do think Reason to Believe was good, but I don't blame people for thinking it was contrived. All the cuts leading up to it, the weak direction/presentation, all added up to make a scene that would've put From Zero to shame to... an okay one?

Felt like the anime wanted to prioritize her more as a "waifu" than a "character", as with how they cut a lot of scenes but they absolutely *had* to keep & draw focus to the infantilizing "I got kissed so I'm pregnant" gag.

toy_reviewer54 said:
Reason to believe is probably the worst episode of Re:Zero so far which heavily damaged my opinion on anime Emilia, it had virtually no impact even though it was such an important scene. I haven't seen anyone say that scene was good/amazing with a straight face.


Episode 50 exists


Episode 50 is like episode 40, should have been a god-tier episode, but just wasn't. I kinda guessed that they would cut down the rabbit fight, it just felt like something they would cut.
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I thought her development was a bit jarring. It sort of came out of nowhere.

She was all terrified and crying about her past, but just because Subaru says he loves her all her fear disappears. It makes no sense.

She seems to have no fear whatsoever when she sees her past, again. There seems to be no anger, no fear, no upset, no emotion really about her past. She seems way too calm. There is absolutely no way you wouldn't have at least one of those feelings after seeing that.
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I thought her development was a bit jarring. It sort of came out of nowhere.

She was all terrified and crying about her past, but just because Subaru says he loves her all her fear disappears. It makes no sense.

She seems to have no fear whatsoever when she sees her past, again. There seems to be no anger, no fear, no upset, no emotion really about her past. She seems way too calm. There is absolutely no way you wouldn't have at least one of those feelings after seeing that.


The anime portrayed this in a rather confusing manner, she was scared of her past because she felt isolated in cour 1 + she didn't have memories of her past so what she saw in the trial made zero sense to her. She was also holding back emotions until her trials finished which was why she still cried after her trial. Idk something like this just doesn't lend itself to anime format I guess. Overall I felt like the handling of her content was just really mediocre otherwise from the voice acting and directing, her scenes had very little impact.

Reason To Believe was also supposed to be more powerful than what was portrayed in the anime, I guess the directors didn't think this scene was that important.
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