Re:ZERO -Starting Life in Another World- (light novel)
| I heard he gets op or gets stronger in the next arc or something |
 "Hard work is worthless for those that don’t believe in themselves" - Naruto Uzumaki |
| He definitely doesn't turn op lol, but imo he has some good development in this season, some other characters do as well |
| Subaru's a badass |
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BalBeera said: I had almost dropped rezero because of subaru's wimpy character. Is he get any better this season? If you have problem with Subaru you should drop the series and comeback in 10 Years. |
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| Subaru is even worse in season 2, because not only does he cry a lot, but he is constantly thanking and groveling to people for the smallest things they do to him, which is very annoying & cringy. At least he was kinda funny at the start of season 1, but now he rarely makes jokes, & when he does, they’re all safe, boring & inoffensive to anyone. He has developed a holier-than-thou attitude that his hard to endure. I don’t care much about his strength, but yes, he did train in sword-fighting in season 1 with the best swordsman, Wilhelm, yet in season 2, it is as if that never happened. Subaru never carries or uses a sword, nor does the thought ever cross his mind. Strangely, he also never even considers relying on his powerful allies, all of which degrades this season greatly. |
"Giving one's name to someone about to die is meaningless." - Hiko Seijuurou "There are no miracles in this world; there are only accidents, inevitabilities, and what you are going to do. That is it." - Himura Yuu "A sword is a weapon. Swordsmanship is learning how to kill. No pretty words you say will change that." - Hiko Seijuurou  |
| Again that same crap. You smart heads don't even know he doesn't has any powers and has to do it all alone. You all complain he is always crying and whining but you people never imagine youself in his place could you have done better after seeing your friends get killed in worst way possible and even if you are able to save them they don't realise how much you have gone through and he keeps coming back. He aslo tried to quit and run away but Rem showed him the right path. He once relied on Rem for helping him and she got killed how could he make up his mind on relying on someone else again. Try to understand the charecter for better understanding. Also try to watch series with more well written charecters instead of emotionless op hero who don't give a damn about anyone and emerge victorious at the end of the day using the power of friendship and flashbacks |
| No, he isn't, still wimpy and relying on screaming talk no jutsu to solve problems, better dont watch past season 1. |
 (っ◔◡◔)っ 𝓘 𝔀𝓲𝓼𝓱 𝔂𝓸𝓾 𝓪𝓵𝓵 𝓱𝓪𝓿𝓮 𝓪 𝔀𝓸𝓷𝓭𝓮𝓻𝓯𝓾𝓵 𝓭𝓪𝔂 ♥ |
ViktorLocke said: Regulus_047 said: Again that same crap. You smart heads don't even know he doesn't has any powers and has to do it all alone. You all complain he is always crying and whining but you people never imagine youself in his place could you have done better after seeing your friends get killed in worst way possible and even if you are able to save them they don't realise how much you have gone through and he keeps coming back. He aslo tried to quit and run away but Rem showed him the right path. He once relied on Rem for helping him and she got killed how could he make up his mind on relying on someone else again. Try to understand the charecter for better understanding. Also try to watch series with more well written charecters instead of emotionless op hero who don't give a damn about anyone and emerge victorious at the end of the day using the power of friendship and flashbacks I'm pretty sure most people here would be smarter in Subaru's situation. Ie trying to find a way around Return by Death's curse to not tell anyone about it, and whatnot. In addition, I don't understand why, whenever an anime protagonist appears who is flawed, the community's reaction seems quick to deem that character as ground-breaking and realistic. Ah yes because telling people that you have time travel powers is the right thing to do... smh... Roswaal and Echidna already prove that information about RbD should never be shared with anyone. |
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ViktorLocke said: Gilgameshuu said: Ah yes because telling people that you have time travel powers is the right thing to do... smh... Roswaal and Echidna already prove that information about RbD should never be shared with anyone. Re: Zero takes place in a very high fantasy world. Given that fact, the idea of a known magical witch, who can allow someone to time travel shouldn't be a far cry stretch from reality. In addition, Subaru never tries to even consider what the limitations (ie the checkpoints) are for Return by Death. If we were in his place, we wouldn't be that stupid. Of all the fanbases I've seen, Re: Zero's is the only one where the fans defend the series to death, to a point where they refuse to acknowledge any flaws, any logical loopholes, of this series. As annoying as Jojo fans can be, at least they acknowledge, and accept, the series' criticisms. You didn't understand what I said... I meant that information about RbD should never be shared with anyone as it's easy to manipulate, we already have Roswaal who will kill everyone to force Subaru to reset if he ever fails to save everyone, and Echidna who manipulated Subaru to use RbD for her own desires, what I'm trying to say is that anyone can manipulate Subaru to use RbD for their own desires. About your second point, you forgotten about the talk Subaru had with Echidna in Episode 9 where she states that his checkpoint only updates when Subaru overcomes a situation where he was supposed to die, but that's just her theory, whether it's what actually happens or not we don't know. |
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ViktorLocke said: Gilgameshuu said: You didn't understand what I said... I meant that information about RbD should never be shared with anyone as it's easy to manipulate, we already have Roswaal who will kill everyone to force Subaru to reset if he ever fails to save everyone, and Echidna who manipulated Subaru to use RbD for her own desires, what I'm trying to say is that anyone can manipulate Subaru to use RbD for their own desires. I would be inclined to agree with you...if it wasn't for the fact that most of the characters Subaru hangs out with (like Emilia, Ram) aren't manipulative, bad people. Gilgameshuu said: About your second point, you forgotten about the talk Subaru had with Echidna in Episode 9 where she states that his checkpoint only updates when Subaru overcomes a situation where he was supposed to die, but that's just her theory, whether it's what actually happens or not we don't know. No, I didn't forget that scene. But even with that explanation, it's still not a very strict rule, and it's not entirely clear when his checkpoint resets. Ex: Subaru overcomes dangerous situation X. How much time must pass after the danger has been overcome, for the checkpoint to move? Because of this vague checkpoint system, there's never any danger of anyone in Re: Zero actually dying. It's not a matter of whether the people he tells it to is trustworthy or not, just trying to tell anyone is very risky. Let's suppose he was able to tell about RbD to Emilia, if that's even possible in the first place, but we'll not get into that. So, Emilia now knows, what benefit will there be for Subaru? There is no advantage to telling anyone of his power, in fact it's a disadvantage every time. They will not able to help him in any way except for mental and emotional support which he already gets plenty of all the time, in fact he would be more restricted, people would be more protective of him, ensuring he doesn't try anything to kill himself, and while Subaru resolved to never use RbD unless in desperate situations, it would become much harder to do so if his friends or Emilia becomes overprotective of him and insists on being with him all the time, it may even result in permanent, irreversible damage in the future, and that's only one of the risks, another is potential leakage of information, no matter how secret they may try to keep this information be, there will be suspicions from others and some info about RbD can be potentially leaked to other people, maybe even the other factions or Royal Candidates, or maybe even the Witch Cult. What I'm trying to say is telling RbD carries with it a huge risk, with little to no advantages for Subaru and will actually cause him more trouble in the future. |
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| Aren't these types of characters supposed to be super average and non-offensive in both personality and appearance so they serve as a vehicle for the average Japanese teenage boy? |
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ViktorLocke said: Gilgameshuu said: It's not a matter of whether the people he tells it to is trustworthy or not, just trying to tell anyone is very risky. Let's suppose he was able to tell about RbD to Emilia, if that's even possible in the first place, but we'll not get into that. So, Emilia now knows, what benefit will there be for Subaru? There is no advantage to telling anyone of his power, in fact it's a disadvantage every time. They will not able to help him in any way except for mental and emotional support which he already gets plenty of all the time, in fact he would be more restricted, people would be more protective of him, ensuring he doesn't try anything to kill himself, and while Subaru resolved to never use RbD unless in desperate situations, it would become much harder to do so if his friends or Emilia becomes overprotective of him and insists on being with him all the time, it may even result in a permanent, irreversible damage in the future, and that's only one of the risks, another is potential leakage of information, no matter how secret they may try to keep this information be, there will be suspicions from others and some info about RbD can be potentially leaked to other people, maybe even the other factions or Royal Candidates, or maybe even the Witch Cult. What I'm trying to say is telling RbD carries with it a huge risk, with little to no advantages for Subaru and will actually cause him more trouble in the future. Throughout most of season 1, wasn't Subaru desperate to tell someone about Return by Death? He would receive a lot more emotional and mental support, if the people he cared about knew of his struggle. Why would his friends become overprotective of him, knowing that he can undo everything? "it may even result in a permanent, irreversible damage in the future" That is very hypothetical and broad and vague. If only Emilia knows, how could that info possibly be leaked? And the possibility should be a lot smaller. If the people Subaru cares about knows about his power, then it makes it much easier and logical to explain how he knows the things he does, making him less suspicious. In addition, your arguments are from your perspective; not the character's. At no point in the anime did Subaru even consider those possibilities. Why would Emilia and frankly anyone that cares about Subaru be willing to let Subaru die to reset everything? That would make no sense, regardless if they knew he could reset, would they just be there and readily accepting to let someone they care for die like that? There is also an obvious difference between S1 and S2 Subaru, there would be no point for Subaru trying to tell anyone about RbD now that he decided to not rely solely on that power. |
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ViktorLocke said: Gilgameshuu said: Why would Emilia and frankly anyone that cares about Subaru be willing to let Subaru die to reset everything? That would make no sense, regardless if they knew he could reset, would they just be there and readily accepting to let someone they care for die like that? Because if you know that when a specific person you know dies, they don't actually die, you wouldn't be too worried about them, obviously. Also, Subaru doesn't die for the sake of dying; he dies because he screws up, and/or tries to save peoples' lives. So Suabru dying is a necessity in Re: Zero, for everyone to make it out alive in the end. Gilgameshuu said: There is also an obvious difference between S1 and S2 Subaru, there would be no point for Subaru trying to tell anyone about RbD now that he decided to not rely solely on that power. Except obviously Subaru still has to rely on Return by Death; he's practically useless without that power. Without Return by Death, much of the cast would be permanently dead in Re: Zero. Yeah, there is a tad difference between S1 and S2 Subaru, but as the scene where he tells Echidna about his power shows; he wants to let people know about his personnel struggle. It's important for his mental health. Well I don't get your logic, but let's just agree to disagree. I don't really want to keep this argument going. |
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BalBeera said: I had almost dropped rezero because of subaru's wimpy character. Is he get any better this season? watch s2 p2, subaru's character is at its peak there |
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