Forum Settings
Forums
New
Sep 6, 2019 3:21 AM
#1
Offline
Aug 2018
10
If you check out the stats for this show it currently(at the time of creating this forum) has 104 votes(24.0%) for score 1.

I very much doubt this is because the show is actually bad though...

Why do you think this is happening? I have a feeling this must somehow be related to the recent incident at Kyoto Animations, but I'm clueless as to how exactly.
Sep 6, 2019 5:29 AM
#2

Offline
Mar 2019
19
Sep 6, 2019 5:39 AM
#3

Offline
May 2018
3197
Ever since the mods declare they won't do anything about bots by closing the thread, bots have been rampant.
It doesn't matter if you like LoGH,Monster etc.If you are a jobless or college/school dropout living in your mom basement, you are still an unintelligent loser. Taste in anime does not make you a better person.
Sep 6, 2019 6:33 AM
#4
Offline
Aug 2018
10

That's so f***ed up :(

Can you tell me how to get to the page you captured? I'd like to see for myself too.
Sep 6, 2019 7:24 AM
#6
Offline
Aug 2018
10

Thanks!
I guess a hundred votes or so wouldn't matter too much after the movie properly airs, probably 0.01~2 chipped off.

I'm really looking forward to this new film, and it pains me to see it have an abysmal score of 6.57
Sep 6, 2019 8:55 AM
#7

Offline
Jul 2019
537
Bots are on a rampage.
Many things(anime and manga) are being attacked constantly. Especially the shows at the top are getting low in rankings suddenly.
For Violet evergarden i think it may be due to 2 things: 1. Bot attacks, which is disgusting 2. Hate on KyoAni works, which is way more/extremely disgusting.
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.
Sep 6, 2019 9:25 AM
#8

Offline
Sep 2017
3177
Bots are extremely trendy currently

There is multiple bots uses on MAL :
- they're used in the "battle" between all the top rated animes in the top 50 and even more in the top 10. It affects almost every anime, but it's even worse for some (Gintama, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2...)
- they're used in the "battle" for top rated seasonal animes. The "battle" is currently between 3 animes : Vinland Saga, Mo Dao Zu Shi 2 and Symphogear XV, which are all around 8.56. The thing is, bots only downvote heavily MDZS2 and now SXV because they surpass Vinland Saga's score. It already happened multiple times : each time a new MDZS2 episode is released, score gets higher but is after spammed with 1s to make the score drop. If there weren't any bot accounts, MDZS2's score would be above 8.80.
But since MDZS2 and SXV are far less popular than Vinland Saga, only a few 1s can make their score drop
- the bots also troll the new anime movies in general. Just take a look at the other ones : Konosuba movie, Tenki no Ko, One Piece Stampede and of course Violet Evergarden Gaiden.
I "trust" these 4 movies, and I perfectly know they're REALLY good, so that saddens me a little to see their score that low, but I came to do not care about it since I know their qualities, and this artificial low score certainly won't prevent me from watching them


Of course, I hope MAL will make a move, a strong one, against the bots. Banning all of them, so all MAL scores can get back to normal, more or less.


Also, shoutout to the mod that will lock this thread : you're locking thread where people discuss normally, they don't bother anyone, unless the bots. I don't see the point of closing threads complaining about bots, instead of just taking down the bots efficiently.

If you lock this thread, give a proper reason instead of a lame "Meaningless or off topic discussions aren't to exist" or a thing like that. The forums aren't even really active but you keep closing topics. That's kinda stupid.
DamuzenSep 6, 2019 9:32 AM
Sep 7, 2019 6:06 AM
#9
Offline
Jan 2018
1
Cheshirecat3 said:

Thanks!
I guess a hundred votes or so wouldn't matter too much after the movie properly airs, probably 0.01~2 chipped off.

I'm really looking forward to this new film, and it pains me to see it have an abysmal score of 6.57


Don't worry about the quality. I watched it yesterday in Tokyo, and it was amazing. It is beyond a doubt a masterpiece.
Sep 7, 2019 6:38 AM

Offline
Jun 2016
967
You'd think if they have an obvious case of bot spamming going on (such that they have such a significant influence), they'd just remove all the 1/10 scores, and freeze the score until the automatic system deals with them.

As much as handling each bot individual must be "beyond their resources", surely they can temporarily fix the score for anime series until the issue sorts itself out.

That said, the bot here is being pretty insensitive by actively and very maliciously attacking the work of KyoAni at this time.

If it helps, without the bot accounts the score would be around 8.74.
Sep 7, 2019 9:07 AM

Offline
Jul 2019
537
Themousen said:
Bots are extremely trendy currently

There is multiple bots uses on MAL :
- they're used in the "battle" between all the top rated animes in the top 50 and even more in the top 10. It affects almost every anime, but it's even worse for some (Gintama, Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu, Shingeki no Kyojin Season 3 Part 2...)
- they're used in the "battle" for top rated seasonal animes. The "battle" is currently between 3 animes : Vinland Saga, Mo Dao Zu Shi 2 and Symphogear XV, which are all around 8.56. The thing is, bots only downvote heavily MDZS2 and now SXV because they surpass Vinland Saga's score. It already happened multiple times : each time a new MDZS2 episode is released, score gets higher but is after spammed with 1s to make the score drop. If there weren't any bot accounts, MDZS2's score would be above 8.80.
But since MDZS2 and SXV are far less popular than Vinland Saga, only a few 1s can make their score drop
- the bots also troll the new anime movies in general. Just take a look at the other ones : Konosuba movie, Tenki no Ko, One Piece Stampede and of course Violet Evergarden Gaiden.
I "trust" these 4 movies, and I perfectly know they're REALLY good, so that saddens me a little to see their score that low, but I came to do not care about it since I know their qualities, and this artificial low score certainly won't prevent me from watching them


Of course, I hope MAL will make a move, a strong one, against the bots. Banning all of them, so all MAL scores can get back to normal, more or less.


Also, shoutout to the mod that will lock this thread : you're locking thread where people discuss normally, they don't bother anyone, unless the bots. I don't see the point of closing threads complaining about bots, instead of just taking down the bots efficiently.

If you lock this thread, give a proper reason instead of a lame "Meaningless or off topic discussions aren't to exist" or a thing like that. The forums aren't even really active but you keep closing topics. That's kinda stupid.
I must say that vinland is also downvoted with 1.0% 1's which is about 0.7% more 1's at least. The thing is Vinland has 321 1's which obviously is more but as Mo dau zu shi 2 and the other are less popular so the bots are more effective on them. Look at the manga page as it has multiple new entries in top 100 outta nowhere.
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.
Sep 9, 2019 12:56 PM

Offline
Nov 2007
9157
Probably because someone posted in reddit that they cried during the second half of the movie and it offended some thirteen year old in MAL? Dunno really. Whoever I talked with in other boards, reddit and irc seemed to have really enjoyed it while others loved it.
Stay Home and Wash Your Hands.
Protect Yourself. Protect Your Loved Ones.
Protect Your Community and Help Defeat
Coronavirus.
Sep 11, 2019 3:23 AM
Offline
Mar 2017
5
If all the 1s are bots, then the score is compensated to 8.78 right now.
Nov 13, 2019 12:23 AM

Offline
Jun 2016
967
A quick reminder to everyone here, it has been at least 2 months since the bot accounts showed up, and to this day their votes have not been removed.
Nov 15, 2019 6:00 PM

Offline
May 2015
5420
Tenderizer17 said:
A quick reminder to everyone here, it has been at least 2 months since the bot accounts showed up, and to this day their votes have not been removed.


That's probably because the mods don't actually give a shit.

Nov 16, 2019 6:22 AM
Offline
Aug 2018
10
TsukuyomiREKT said:
Tenderizer17 said:
A quick reminder to everyone here, it has been at least 2 months since the bot accounts showed up, and to this day their votes have not been removed.


That's probably because the mods don't actually give a shit.


I did try reporting the accounts, but I got a reply that goes like

"We are no longer fulfilling reports regarding illegitimate (score-boosting/bombing) accounts. You may read about the reasons here.
Thank you for your understanding."

plus a link that leads to
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=245618&show=4750#msg58156821

I followed the link, much annoyed, but after reading what they had to say I couldn't really blame them.

Put short, quote, "All we're doing is deleting accounts at a much slower pace than some dedicated 13yo has free time to make them."

It's a shame these bots had to give this movie a 1. (unlucky, considering all these bots gave out scores to hundreds of shows and had a mean score of 5.50 - by which you can tell the scores were generated randomly)

But the people that make these bot accounts, if they're dedicated enough, they'll make 2 more accounts for each one the mods delete. MAL has gotten too big for a couple of mods to deal with all the trolls.
Nov 16, 2019 6:28 AM
Offline
Jul 2018
562316
Cheshirecat3 said:

But the people that make these bot accounts, if they're dedicated enough, they'll make 2 more accounts for each one the mods delete. MAL has gotten too big for a couple of mods to deal with all the trolls.

Very true, what MAL needs is a a dedicated team of new mods who have time to counteract this
Nov 16, 2019 8:16 AM
Offline
Aug 2018
10
Jese23 said:

Very true, what MAL needs is a a dedicated team of new mods who have time to counteract this


https://myanimelist.net/featured/2305/15_Questions_with_the_Administrators_of_MyAnimeListnet
Just read this featured article and noticed a relevant detail!
According to a staff called Luna, there's a plan to deal with illegitimate accounts using code in the future. Let us not lose hope :D
Nov 16, 2019 9:37 AM
Offline
Jul 2018
562316
We have the same problem with chihayafuru, luna has responded here:
https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1811115&show=50#msg58667545

Cheshirecat3 said:
Let us not lose hope :D


TBH I've lost hope
Nov 20, 2019 5:10 AM

Offline
Aug 2014
10795
This is beyond retarded, 11% 1/10 from bots, really? It's absurd that the admin team still hasn't implemented whatever they're talking about or brought back the old report system at this point.
InsertanamehereNov 20, 2019 5:16 AM
Nov 20, 2019 7:09 AM

Offline
May 2019
3340
How long until they code in whatever they were planing to? Its been at least a week since Chihayafuru started getting mass downvoted and only thing we got is that they plan to to fix it in code, no updates nothing.
Nov 20, 2019 8:47 PM

Offline
Nov 2007
9157
Kobayasan said:
How long until they code in whatever they were planing to? Its been at least a week since Chihayafuru started getting mass downvoted and only thing we got is that they plan to to fix it in code, no updates nothing.


If a proper code is implemented *fingers crossed*, that can actually isolate the trolls, the MAL Top 200 will look substantially different. Imagine the tens of thousands of troll votes (maybe I am underestimating) between the top 3 alone. If the code actually goes through all the accounts and removes these votes (or their weights no matter what ratings they give, both up and downvotes) then I can already see a huge change in the Top 10.

My prediction is Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu would be rated the number one anime. FMA:B will probably drop to fourth or fifth. HxH will slide down to seventh or eighth. S;G may not even make the top 10. The top 200 in MAL are hugely biased by upvotes and downvotes after all.
Stay Home and Wash Your Hands.
Protect Yourself. Protect Your Loved Ones.
Protect Your Community and Help Defeat
Coronavirus.
Nov 21, 2019 1:58 AM

Offline
May 2019
3340
shanimebib said:
My prediction is Ginga Eiyuu Densetsu would be rated the number one anime. FMA:B will probably drop to fourth or fifth. HxH will slide down to seventh or eighth. S;G may not even make the top 10. The top 200 in MAL are hugely biased by upvotes and downvotes after all.
Really? I had no idea S;G has so many fake upvotes, i assumed majority of the top 10 had them, but i had no idea Steins Gate had so many, i always assumed it had the least amount of bots from the top 5 anime. LotGH being number 1 is definitely a good choice in my opinion.
Dec 6, 2019 11:21 AM

Offline
Apr 2018
14
the bots are back, it'll probably fix itself when receives more attention when the BD comes out
Ph0sphorDec 6, 2019 12:08 PM
May 23, 2020 2:59 AM

Offline
Aug 2018
392
puneetsingh said:
Bots are on a rampage.
Many things(anime and manga) are being attacked constantly. Especially the shows at the top are getting low in rankings suddenly.
For Violet evergarden i think it may be due to 2 things: 1. Bot attacks, which is disgusting 2. Hate on KyoAni works, which is way more/extremely disgusting.
"Bots are on rampage.", Dota language.


"The most amazing and interesting story in this world ever existed is the story of the world itself where all stories happened"
-Hassaan Lightstone-
May 30, 2020 3:25 AM

Offline
Jul 2019
537
H_Lightstone said:
puneetsingh said:
Bots are on a rampage.
Many things(anime and manga) are being attacked constantly. Especially the shows at the top are getting low in rankings suddenly.
For Violet evergarden i think it may be due to 2 things: 1. Bot attacks, which is disgusting 2. Hate on KyoAni works, which is way more/extremely disgusting.
"Bots are on rampage.", Dota language.
Wait wasn't it "H_Lightstone language"?
Should I troll in the troll bait threads? It is kinda idiotic to be logical in the troll bait threads. Well, it will depend on my mood.

More topics from this board

Poll: » Violet Evergarden Gaiden: Eien to Jidou Shuki Ningyou Episode 1 Discussion ( 1 2 3 4 )

Usopp8000 - Oct 6, 2019

166 by Devonnius »»
Mar 8, 3:39 PM

» Can people watch this without watching the original series?

Strat2005 - Nov 7, 2023

15 by anikevin »»
Dec 29, 2024 12:08 AM

» Help

Jamil10 - Feb 2, 2022

22 by oazuz »»
Jun 14, 2024 7:22 AM

» Violet's Character In this movie

Nayytandova - Apr 25, 2022

7 by CarbonMD »»
Jan 1, 2023 8:37 PM

» do i need to watch the movies?

landerdemonz - Aug 23, 2021

20 by Amatsukaze24 »»
Dec 14, 2022 4:28 AM
It’s time to ditch the text file.
Keep track of your anime easily by creating your own list.
Sign Up Login