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Jul 26, 2019 11:46 PM
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Sure the premise is unique,but the fundamental problem with the show is that he is not actually smart,he just conviently has the knowledge and solves it instantly.

Science is not science but works like magic in this series.There is no thinking process but the answer.

What are your thoughts?


Jul 27, 2019 12:38 AM
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He's not actually smart? I don't really get your logic... Senkuu studied endlessly since he was a kid and acquired the knowledge that he has now. Because of his knowledge, he was able to do things like making the revival fluid (with some help of course). And, no, it wasn't instantly. In the anime, it took him a year just to make it and the process of doing so wasn't exactly effortless.

Remember the times when they messed up? Senkuu had tested his formula several times on the petrified birds and they didn't work until he finally got it right. (I'm guessing that he actually learned the right ratio of the ingredients from his many trials.) And the explosion with the gunpowder wasn't intentional. Senkuu realized something very important at the last second which led to that explosion. They made mistakes here and there. That's normal.

So, some thinking is definitely involved in Dr Stone. Without thinking, how could he have made the revival fluid? How would they have found where to get the ingredients for gunpowder? If they had magic, he could just make the ingredients instantly appear and mix themselves. Matter of fact, he wouldn't have to do anything at all. He could just make anything he wanted appear out of the blue and then everything would be solved just like that. There'd be no purpose of all his experiments and trials.

As for the Gary Stu... No. Clearly, Senkuu doesn't have everything easy considering that he's in a stone world and he's partly responsible for building the world back up. He's also nowhere near perfect. He may be smart but he is not strong and he admits that. That's why he lets Taiju do all the heavy lifting. He's letting Taiju's strength make up for what he lacks.
Sakurai_AoiJul 27, 2019 12:43 AM
Jul 27, 2019 4:26 AM
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I think you did realize that the show has the problem but it is not about the intelligence level of Senku in my opinion. The problem is the way they treat science as a concept in this anime.

On one hand, we see science is the fundamental ingredient for human advancement and civilization. From all the modern tech to even the simplest invention or discovery is bounded to science.

On the other hand, we have Tsukasa thought. If he acknowledge science as he see what Senku can do, he must have know the fundamental thing about it is that it is unstoppable. Even if he kill Senku or who-ever. There will be other people contributing to the advancement of science. And with the advancement of science, the application in warfare is also just a matter of time. With this line of thought, all of Tsukasa ideology of human civilization is just stupid. Another stupid thought of him is that he can culling human as he desire. Dude, this is not a zeus or aoe game, he is not a god. Even if he can do it, he cannot stop people to return to how they were because conflict, war, wealth accumulation is all in the nature of human, if not animal.

Because of that, we have a meaningless conflict between those who are typical human and Tsukasa, the unrealistic. Everything else is just plot device to make the anime seem full. I really like the idea of incorporating science and civ building in anime to be fair but the way they draw the antagonist is just bad. Why don't keep it simple by having Tsukasa as a pure bad guy who relies on strength and want to conquer everything. It will be a much better representation of how civilization progress.
Aug 13, 2019 10:09 AM
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People love throwing that shitty buzzword don't they?
Aug 13, 2019 11:06 AM
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There is definitely thought process, the thinking process is what eats up all the episode time, so no idea where that came from of you there.
He is far from a gary stue, so dont even go there.
The only real gripes I have are these: It switches between goofy comedy and serious way too much in one episode, if it toned down the constant tone shifts, I'd like that.
Also the way he survived and how they came to that conclusion was an obvious plot device that they tried to make it look like some 200 IQ brain plan.
Aug 13, 2019 11:09 AM
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He is showing to be smart through the thinking process, also suspension of disbelief is a thing you know.
Aug 13, 2019 1:14 PM
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Xstasy said:
He is showing to be smart through the thinking process, also suspension of disbelief is a thing you know.


I hate that saying sometimes because it can only carry a show so far in all honestly before it reaches where even that doesn't save it.
Byleth-KunAug 13, 2019 1:50 PM
Aug 13, 2019 1:36 PM
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I wouldn't say he is a Gary stu but telling tsukasa how to make the miracle water because you think that he will hit you in the neck and that just so happens to still be petrafied and he actually does that is a MASSIVE asspull .

There was no logical reason to make this gamble.
Tsukasa might just as well put a blade in his head or any number of ways to kill somebody quickly

And I hope there is a good explanation as to how the new blonde girl is totally unharmed after a huge tree drops on her.
4/10 anime honestly
Aug 13, 2019 7:22 PM
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Instantly is a stretch, sure his intelligence is convenient for the plot, but it's not unrealistic smarts. He still forgets things like any other human being does. He's been passionate about science for a majority of his life and has obsessed over it since at least a grade schooler. If you obsess over something for well over a decade to his point it's not far fetched he'd be well versed into the field.
What a beautiful Duwang
Aug 13, 2019 7:41 PM

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genesic123 said:
Sure the premise is unique,but the fundamental problem with the show is that he is not actually smart,he just conviently has the knowledge and solves it instantly.

Science is not science but works like magic in this series.There is no thinking process but the answer.

What are your thoughts?

We must've seen different animes then.

Senku is both intelligent and has great knowledge on many things related to many branches of science, i.e. chemistry, biology, technics in general.

He is basically a young genius (before the petrification accident he attended to high school). However he is definitely not Gary Stu. As @Jus1294 already noticed, he lacks some traits and is not right every time, he can also make mistakes. He is not unrealistically smart, because he made quite a lot of mistakes at the beginning and his main method was not 100% confidence and success because of science, but trying everything on "success and error" method. Later he became more confident in the new world, but the beginning was quite harsh.

Not to spoil, but in the upcoming episodes Senku will see how many other things than "Taiju's infinite stamina" he lacks. He already knows that he is not perfect and must rely on others, 'cause cooperation is the best way to not only fix many problems or jump over obstacles, but also it's fundamental for building scientific, modern society.
Aug 15, 2019 2:02 AM

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Science is a process and there are times when you fail even when you think you've accounted for everything. Senku has times like that in the series too, and his persistence in the face of failure is a great twist on the typical "never give up" attitude of MCs
Aug 15, 2019 7:10 AM

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Vysarine said:
Science is a process and there are times when you fail even when you think you've accounted for everything. Senku has times like that in the series too, and his persistence in the face of failure is a great twist on the typical "never give up" attitude of MCs

That too. Senku is quite original as a main character because of all his traits.

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