| the way germany could have won world war 2 is 1. not being a xenophobic/ anti race/culture assshole that sent millions of its Citizens to be gassed. you will start to run out of troops if you keep doing that as well as people to build weapons and develop new ones. 2. not opening up more then one front. in other words picking a fight with everyone and then having them all untie to take Germany down. 3. not starting a war in the first place. |
| "among monsters and humans, there are only two types. Those who undergo suffering and spread it to others. And those who undergo suffering and avoid giving it to others." -Alice “Beauty is no quality in things themselves: It exists merely in the mind which contemplates them; and each mind perceives a different beauty.” David Hume “Evil is created when someone gives up on someone else. It appears when everyone gives up on someone as a lost cause and removes their path to salvation. Once they are cut off from everyone else, they become evil.” -Othinus  |
Nyu said: No, it hadn't, what happened in Soviet was similar to what happened in Nazi Germany to a lesser extent. You know those big Soviet appartement blocs? Do you think they magically appeared out of thin air? Of course not, they appeared because Soviet urbanized and industrialized the country very quickly. But guess what happened after that? It started going to shit (or well, it was already kind of shit, but even more shit), which is precisely what would've happened to Nazi Germany after a while.The Soviet Union had terrible economic policy to begin with, whereas the National Socialists were extremely successful. They got 7 million people back to work & hyperinflation solved in 2 years. Their workers had the best living standards in the world, being able to get a car, go on holiday, and great working conditions. Venezula is failing because of sanctions, if Germany was successful against the Soviet Union, they would have had all the resources they could want. "Sanctions"? You mean that gigantic boogeyman which Venezuela supporters like to blame all of the country's problems on (aside from the CIA)? Please. Venezuela failed because of corrupt politicians who don't know how 2 economy, much like Nazi Germany would've failed because of increasingly bad economic policies and a million other problems. |
Comic_SansAug 8, 2017 1:08 AM
 Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
Comic_Sans said: Nyu said: No, it hadn't, what happened in Soviet was similar to what happened in Nazi Germany to a lesser extent. You know those big Soviet appartement blocs? Do you think they magically appeared out of thin air? Of course not, they appeared because Soviet urbanized and industrialized the country very quickly. But guess what happened after that? It started going to shit (or well, it was already kind of shit, but even more shit), which is precisely what would've happened to Nazi Germany after a while.The Soviet Union had terrible economic policy to begin with, whereas the National Socialists were extremely successful. They got 7 million people back to work & hyperinflation solved in 2 years. Their workers had the best living standards in the world, being able to get a car, go on holiday, and great working conditions. Venezula is failing because of sanctions, if Germany was successful against the Soviet Union, they would have had all the resources they could want. "Sanctions"? You mean that gigantic boogeyman which Venezuela supporters like to blame all of the country's problems on (aside from the CIA)? Please. Venezuela failed because of corrupt politicians who don't know how 2 economy, much like Nazi Germany would've failed because of increasingly bad economic policies and a million other problems.The USSR and Nazi Germany had totally different situations I'd say. Germany was already capitalist by the time the Nazis took over but Russia was borderline feudalism still. Prior to their rising Germany was in a depression while Russia had their brutal tzarist government collapse. Germany was already industrialised but Russia was not. Nazi Germany had an economic system that was basically a racist version of social democracy while the USSR was state-capitalist meaning it works like capitalism but the state owned the businesses. The progress the USSR made was real but the progress Nazi Germany made in part was just misleading distorted statistics though they did some. Nazi Germany failed because they relied on looting for profits. IIRC the USSR collapsed from sanctions and corruption from the bureaucrats in the government. It also certainly didn't help they had gone through a famine from drought and crop disease. Another big difference is to this day Lenin and Stalin have good approval ratings throughout Russia but Hitler has almost no approval in Germany even though he had very high ratings early on when he first came to power. To give you an idea what the countries were like the USSR was also the first in the world to allow abortion for any reason although Stalin also outlawed abortion for a while though trying to raise the population. Hitler outlawed all abortion of a healthy white foetus. Both Hitler and Stalin had abusive fathers that beat them as children. As for Venezuela it's a combination of both sanctions and mismanagement of their economy. |
| Openly declare that they are waging war to liberate Russia from bolshevism. Throw away all racial prejudices against slavs, at least until war is over. Abolish kolkhoz in occupied terrritories as show of good will. Put rational man in charge of those lands instead of retards like Koch. Arm soviet POW with trophy weapons, put those officers who hate commies in charge, and let them carry main brunt of a fight.In that way instead of one Vlasov army in 1944 there could be 10 in 1942. |
Sukebe14Aug 8, 2017 3:20 AM
traed said: I know there were some differences between the two countries, such as the Soviet Union being more centrally planned while Nazi Germany was more mixed, but I wouldn't say they were completely different considering that Hitler and Stalin were ideological buddies for a long time. E.g. anti capitalist sentiment was very rampant in both countries and also one of the nazis' main propaganda weapons for targeting Jews http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/muenster.htm So I don't think it's completely improbable that the counter factual Nazi Germany at some point in time would have had to deal with the same kinds of issues as the Soviet Union later did (as both countries were corrupt to the core). That and they would've had to deal with a million other problems that come with creating a Nazi style ethnostate, such as ethnic uprisings and possibly a civil war.The USSR and Nazi Germany had totally different situations I'd say. Germany was already capitalist by the time the Nazis took over but Russia was borderline feudalism still. Prior to their rising Germany was in a depression while Russia had their brutal tzarist government collapse. Germany was already industrialised but Russia was not. Nazi Germany had an economic system that was basically a racist version of social democracy while the USSR was state-capitalist meaning it works like capitalism but the state owned the businesses. The progress the USSR made was real but the progress Nazi Germany made in part was just misleading distorted statistics though they did some. Nazi Germany failed because they relied on looting for profits. IIRC the USSR collapsed from sanctions and corruption from the bureaucrats in the government. It also certainly didn't help they had gone through a famine from drought and crop disease. Another big difference is to this day Lenin and Stalin have good approval ratings throughout Russia but Hitler has almost no approval in Germany even though he had very high ratings early on when he first came to power. To give you an idea what the countries were like the USSR was also the first in the world to allow abortion for any reason although Stalin also outlawed abortion for a while though trying to raise the population. Hitler outlawed all abortion of a healthy white foetus. Both Hitler and Stalin had abusive fathers that beat them as children. As for Venezuela it's a combination of both sanctions and mismanagement of their economy. I didn't know about those manipulated statistics though, can you tell me more about them? |
Nico- said: Conversations with people pinging/quoting me to argue about some old post I wrote years ago will not be entertained@Comic_Sans oh no y arnt ppl dieing i need more ppl dieing rly gud plot avansement jus liek tokyo ghoul if erbudy dies amirite |
| Should've kept there agreement with russia and waited Kept a tighter leash on japan Left italy alone and looked for better allies Notice that the enigma had been cracked Recognized that half of there spies had turn coat |
"Life and death have been in love, For longer than we have words to describe, Life sends countless gifts to death, And death keeps them forever."  |
Comic_Sans said: I know there were some differences between the two countries, such as the Soviet Union being more centrally planned while Nazi Germany was more mixed, but I wouldn't say they were completely different considering that Hitler and Stalin were ideological buddies for a long time. E.g. anti capitalist sentiment was very rampant in both countries and also one of the nazis' main propaganda weapons for targeting Jews http://research.calvin.edu/german-propaganda-archive/muenster.htm So I don't think it's completely improbable that the counter factual Nazi Germany at some point in time would have had to deal with the same kinds of issues as the Soviet Union later did (as both countries were corrupt to the core). That and they would've had to deal with a million other problems that come with creating a Nazi style ethnostate, such as ethnic uprisings and possibly a civil war. I didn't know about those manipulated statistics though, can you tell me more about them? From what I heard when Stalin and Hitler had arrangements together it wasnt a buddy buddy relationship. It was basically Stalin playing along with Hitler to try to stop him from wanting to invade even though he didnt like him as a person and Hitler didnt like Stalin either but he had things he wanted and needed. I suppose if situations were different they could have been friends if the fact they both are anti-semetic was enough to make a friendship spring up lol As for anti-capitalist stuff that's a mixed bag with Hitler. Hitlers idea of capitalism is private owned central banking iirc not anything about the power dynamic over means of production through private business. Basically Hitler was trying to blame the depression on the Jews. He also reportedly basically said he defends private business. Stalin was pretty retarded with definitions too. I'm not sure if they both didnt know what they were talking about or they just were using a sort of populist appealing lies to grasp power. Hitler changed how data was collected. "Women were no longer included in the statistics so any women who remained out of work under the Nazi’s rule did not exist as far as the statistics were concerned. The unemployed were given a very simple choice: do whatever work is given to you by the government or be classed as “work-shy” and put in a concentration camp. Jews lost their citizenship in 1935 and as a result were not included in unemployment figures even though many lost their employment at the start of Hitler’s time in power. Many young men were taken off of the unemployment figure when conscription was brought in (1935) and men had to do their time in the army etc. By 1939, the army was 1.4 million strong. To equip these men with weapons etc., factories were built and this took even more off of the unemployment figure." http://www.historylearningsite.co.uk/nazi-germany/the-nazis-and-the-german-economy/ |
| they shouldn't have fought a two front war, they should've won russia and then japan could've dropped bombs on america to trigger them and so at that point they could've fought out the second front i wish hitler won so i would be a eugenics child with blonde hair blue eyes |
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| Multiple front war made them loose it which was really dumb. They might pull it through but thankfully they did not. |
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spuukiebuugi said: desperation said: i wish hitler won so i would be a eugenics child with blonde hair blue eyes dark hair and brown eyes are actually dominant traits... glad to see you failed biology, because even among white people, the percentage of people with light eyes is around ten or less. so i don't think that eugenicists could've bred out what're naturally dominant traits, period, that'd mean they'd have to completely manipulate nature. cats are far more likely to inherit green eyes, it's the same for humans with brown eyes or eyes shaded more brown or black. it is a genetic anomaly, or a rarity, for a couple with brown eyes, or even one brown/dark eyed parent and one light eyed parent, to have a child with light eyes, at least when it pertains to their first child. my maternal grandmother had brown eyes and my grandfather blue, and only one of their daughters ended up with blue eyes. the nazis weren't even "aryan" themselves, especially not hitler, who himself defied his own retarded form of logic by having brown hair and eyes, despite sending jewish people with dark features to death camps. the hypocrisy of the nazi party is pretty astounding, considering when it came to their trash eugenicist idealogy, they never practiced what they preached. yeah but hitler also wanted to kill off everyone with brown hair brown eyes to create the ideal aryan race to push into society, so assuming he had the world in his hands there would only be blonde blue eyed men and blonde blue eyed women and so they'd give birth to blonde blue eyed children as they both have dominantly recessive (intended oxymoron) traits so in that way i would be born blonde blue eyed if hitler took over also i do understand basic biology as i see my dad is dark brown haired and brown eyed and my mom is blonde hair green eyed and they created me (dark brown haired brown eyed) and my sister (light brown hair green eyed) |
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