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May 29, 2016 10:51 AM

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Regarding the pacing:
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Regarding the pacing:


I haven't watch the episode so I can't confirm about the pacing in episode 9, but that scene should be around Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8.

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DarklordVor said:
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Regarding the pacing:


I haven't watch the episode so I can't confirm about the pacing in episode 9, but that scene should be around Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8.


Ah thanks :p

Do you know many chapters are there for volume 3? By this reply, it looks like arc 2 is the shortest so far.
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Stark700 said:
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I haven't watch the episode so I can't confirm about the pacing in episode 9, but that scene should be around Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8.


Ah thanks :p

Do you know many chapters are there for volume 3? By this reply, it looks like arc 2 is the shortest so far.


No problem :p

There are 5 chapters + epilogue. Though there is a small interlude in between chapter 4 and 5.

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DarklordVor said:


I haven't watch the episode so I can't confirm about the pacing in episode 9, but that scene should be around Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8.

Wow, then episode 9 adapted so much. If they are giving fragment chapter as 9 volume bonus I think they are going to adapt everything before it, otherwise this would not make sense.


Can you please explain what is the fragment chapter exactly? Is it an epilogue to arc3? Or a different ending to the arc? Or a continuous after arc 3?
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Hi there. Can you confirm this for me?

May 31, 2016 8:00 AM

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machixmachi said:
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Hi there. Can you confirm this for me?


Oh that post. Yeah this is certainly true. The editor alongside the author made some alterations for the LN version so that the overall story flow is better.

It may sound "bad" at first because once scene is really shortened but if you look at this scene in the overall picture of the story then it's better the way the LN handles it. :)
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Fappa said:
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Hi there. Can you confirm this for me?


Oh that post. Yeah this is certainly true. The editor alongside the author made some alterations for the LN version so that the overall story flow is better.

It may sound "bad" at first because once scene is really shortened but if you look at this scene in the overall picture of the story then it's better the way the LN handles it. :)

Thanks a lot. To be honest, I like WN version more than LN version at some torture&brutal scene, I've expected it :(

May 31, 2016 8:27 AM

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machixmachi said:

Thanks a lot. To be honest, I like WN version more than LN version at some torture&brutal scene, I've expected it :(


Yeah at this point it's a matter of preference to detail. The impact is the same in the end it's just delivered differently.

If we talk about the overall story an connectivity then the LN is definitely better as it
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Fappa said:
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Thanks a lot. To be honest, I like WN version more than LN version at some torture&brutal scene, I've expected it :(


Yeah at this point it's a matter of preference to detail. The impact is the same in the end it's just delivered differently.

If we talk about the overall story an connectivity then the LN is definitely better as it

Although I won't get that brutal/torture but now I'm fine with your infomation about LN, thanks again :)

May 31, 2016 8:50 AM

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machixmachi said:

Although I won't get that brutal/torture but now I'm fine with your infomation about LN, thanks again :)


This wouldn't have made it into the anime anyway so instead of censored scenes a different, more story relevant take on this scene is a better option. If we talk about reading it then you will have to hope for a dedicated soul that translates the web novel.

The only thing I can agree with is that
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Fappa said:
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Although I won't get that brutal/torture but now I'm fine with your infomation about LN, thanks again :)




The only thing I can agree with is that

Yep. I also agree with that.

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Okay sorry for the late update guys, I just flew back to Indonesia on a 22 hours flight jeez... so tiring lol.

Anyway, episode 9 is awesome muahaaha. Rem-rin is love, Rem-rin is life.

But lol, so they ended it on Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8. Basically they adapted one whole chapter for this episode, which is slower than episode 8's two chapter pacing. See? I told you guys their pacing is random.

「死なないで、死なないで、死なないで――!」

It ends on chapter 41 of WN btw.

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Yeah what Fappa said. The LN is actually doing a good job on "polishing" it and the result is what we're seeing in the anime. The WN is gorier from the start like making Elsa's kills even gorier.

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I haven't watch the episode so I can't confirm about the pacing in episode 9, but that scene should be around Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8.

Wow, then episode 9 adapted so much. If they are giving fragment chapter as 9 volume bonus I think they are going to adapt everything before it, otherwise this would not make sense.


Can you please explain what is the fragment chapter exactly? Is it an epilogue to arc3? Or a different ending to the arc? Or a continuous after arc 3?


Not really much, episode 9 only adapted one chapter of LN while episode 8 adapted 2 chapters. Although the WN chapters are basically the same in the range of 7-8 WN chapters. (Note that LN are the polished version of the WN).

The fragment chapter is an "alternate ending" epilogue since it took like lots of years in the future. Itt is also the one and true ending of Re:Zero that I have accepted. Yup, there is no such things as arc 4+ as they're all fanfictions.

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DarklordVor said:
Okay sorry for the late update guys, I just flew back to Indonesia on a 22 hours flight jeez... so tiring lol.

Yeah what Fappa said. The LN is actually doing a good job on "polishing" it and the result is what we're seeing in the anime. The WN is gorier from the start like making Elsa's kills even gorier.


Oh I know that. Had to fly 23 hours to the maledives once *sigh*.

If you look only at arc 3 it's arguable what's better but if we take the whole story into consideration then the changes made it definitely more convenient to read/ for an anime to adapt.

Imagine
that would be pretty tiring.

The thing about the toned down gore, well that depends on your taste. The only thing that I maybe don't like about the changes is that


On the other side I love how much
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Okay sorry for the late update guys, I just flew back to Indonesia on a 22 hours flight jeez... so tiring lol.

Yeah what Fappa said. The LN is actually doing a good job on "polishing" it and the result is what we're seeing in the anime. The WN is gorier from the start like making Elsa's kills even gorier.


Oh I know that. Had to fly 23 hours to the maledives once *sigh*.

If you look only at arc 3 it's arguable what's better but if we take the whole story into consideration then the changes made it definitely more convenient to read/ for an anime to adapt.

Imagine
that would be pretty tiring.

The thing about the toned down gore, well that depends on your taste. The only thing that I maybe don't like about the changes is that


On the other side I love how much


Yup exactly. He probably take a lot more time for publishing another chapter to polish the story even further to connect the plot holes and missing details in his story. Hence why his 1-2 months per volume pace changes to 6 months per volume. Hopefully he can end volume 9 tearfully... make LN reader even feels than the WN readers who have read the epilogue of arc 3.

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Okay sorry for the late update guys, I just flew back to Indonesia on a 22 hours flight jeez... so tiring lol.

Anyway, episode 9 is awesome muahaaha. Rem-rin is love, Rem-rin is life.

But lol, so they ended it on Volume 3 chapter 3 part 8. Basically they adapted one whole chapter for this episode, which is slower than episode 8's two chapter pacing. See? I told you guys their pacing is random.

「死なないで、死なないで、死なないで――!」

It ends on chapter 41 of WN btw.

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Yeah what Fappa said. The LN is actually doing a good job on "polishing" it and the result is what we're seeing in the anime. The WN is gorier from the start like making Elsa's kills even gorier.

Thanks!
I fret about the emotionals/the feels in LN compare to WN version, which is better?

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machixmachi said:

Thanks!
I fret about the emotionals/the feels in LN compare to WN version, which is better?


Well we're really biased since the version you read at first will always have a bigger emotional impact ( simply because a lot of it comes from the surprise effect which leads to a feeling of being overwhelmed )

If we talk about the narrative and the changed scenes then I'd say...for people who have read the WN first it will probably be still the WN but for people who have started with the LN and then hear the version of the WN, they'll say that the LN made it way more emotional.

If you're new to the series you'll definitely like the LN version more since it doesn't draw out events as much and it alters some events so that it involves more characters you have a bond with
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DarklordVor said:
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Ah thanks :p

Do you know many chapters are there for volume 3? By this reply, it looks like arc 2 is the shortest so far.


No problem :p

There are 5 chapters + epilogue. Though there is a small interlude in between chapter 4 and 5.


What do you mean by small interlude? Like an extra chapter or something? Why would it be put in between chapter 4 and 5?

And holy shit... Rem is scary. Way scarier than Kotori you know, but that's kinda awesome too. Hopefully we'll see more of it.
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@machixmachi yeah what Fappa said. It depends on which you read first, but I think the WN is more gorier and it actually makes it worse to imagine Subaru's suffering condition than the LN. However, because it is after all the polished version of the WN, it did become polished.

Like for example, on episode 7, Subaru was supposed to be attacked by a beast before Beatrice found him in the WN. I think if they had put the beast to the story at that moment, it would derail the feels we'll feel about Rem's death or Ram's anger to seeing Subaru getting attacked. So there are goods and bad in between them.

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No problem :p

There are 5 chapters + epilogue. Though there is a small interlude in between chapter 4 and 5.


What do you mean by small interlude? Like an extra chapter or something? Why would it be put in between chapter 4 and 5?

And holy shit... Rem is scary. Way scarier than Kotori you know, but that's kinda awesome too. Hopefully we'll see more of it.


Hmm the small interlude is something like an interlude. I don't know how to say it other than that lol. It's like an extra chapter being shoved in between chapter 4 and 5 to explain something. After all, the LN is the polished version of the WN. In the WN, it was put under chapter 47 instead of being an interlude chapter.

Hehehe... Rem is awesome. Kotori is less scarier than Rem because she's a fire goddess and not a demon :p her craziness is burning stuffs with her megiddo canon.

Hmm... about that
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Hopefully we'll see more of it.



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^ Holy shit! That face....... :D

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DarklordVor said:

Hmm... about that
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Hopefully we'll see more of it.




whew, I guess arc 3 really is good as they said huh? I bet you're liking every moment of it lol
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Hmm... about that




whew, I guess arc 3 really is good as they said huh? I bet you're liking every moment of it lol


Fufufu.. chapter 12-13 manga is among my favorite chapters of arc 3. But it's not Re:Zero without sufferings.. *sigh*

Also the manga is on volume 5 of the LN so far. I have to enjoy every moment from here on out...

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DarkingDawning said:

whew, I guess arc 3 really is good as they said huh? I bet you're liking every moment of it lol


In comparison to arc 1 and 2, yes arc 3 is crazy good.

So much happens, so much is revealed, the stakes are higher, overall everything is just...better.

That's why source material readers like me and Darklord are so stoked for it :D
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Fappa said:

If you're new to the series you'll definitely like the LN version more since it doesn't draw out events as much and it alters some events so that it involves more characters you have a bond with

Wait.......WAT?
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Jun 1, 2016 11:34 AM

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bobzanny said:

Wait.......WAT?


Your heard right. Arc 3 my friend...arc 3 :D
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Fappa said:
bobzanny said:

Wait.......WAT?


Your heard right. Arc 3 my friend...arc 3 :D

From arc 2 i thought always will puk do it once by any chance (never read original)you just confirmed it
Jun 1, 2016 1:07 PM

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Wait.......WAT?


Your heard right. Arc 3 my friend...arc 3 :D

The amount of hype for Arc 3 is rising by the day.
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bobzanny said:

The amount of hype for Arc 3 is rising by the day.


The funny thing is this is only one of many "Whaaaat" moments. Now that I think about it in arc 3 happens easily 2-3 times more than in arc 1 and 2 combined. Personally I see it as the actual start of the story while arc 1 and 2 were the mere set up for that.
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Fappa said:
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The amount of hype for Arc 3 is rising by the day.


The funny thing is this is only one of many "Whaaaat" moments. Now that I think about it in arc 3 happens easily 2-3 times more than in arc 1 and 2 combined. Personally I see it as the actual start of the story while arc 1 and 2 were the mere set up for that.

Well based of the LN, Arc 1 is 1 volume, Arc 2 is 2 volumes, and Arc 3 is about to be 6 volumes? So that's double the amount on volumes for 1 Arc so I'm fully expecting a good amount of "oh shit" moments and plot twists. Plus I'm looking forward to the world building.

Sigh...longest prologue ever.
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Well based of the LN, Arc 1 is 1 volume, Arc 2 is 2 volumes, and Arc 3 is about to be 6 volumes? So that's double the amount on volumes for 1 Arc so I'm fully expecting a good amount of "oh shit" moments and plot twists. Plus I'm looking forward to the world building.

Sigh...longest prologue ever.


A long and detailed prologue is necessary for a really long story. If it would be a 10 volume story then yeah this would be really weirdly paced but we're talking about the prologue taking about 1/30 of the entire content.

Oh yeah this will be very good in arc 3, a lot of things you wish from a fantasy story
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Fappa said:
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Well based of the LN, Arc 1 is 1 volume, Arc 2 is 2 volumes, and Arc 3 is about to be 6 volumes? So that's double the amount on volumes for 1 Arc so I'm fully expecting a good amount of "oh shit" moments and plot twists. Plus I'm looking forward to the world building.

Sigh...longest prologue ever.


A long and detailed prologue is necessary for a really long story. If it would be a 10 volume story then yeah this would be really weirdly paced but we're talking about the prologue taking about 1/30 of the entire content.

Oh yeah this will be very good in arc 3, a lot of things you wish from a fantasy story

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Your heard right. Arc 3 my friend...arc 3 :D

The amount of hype for Arc 3 is rising by the day.


I'm personally not hyped for episode 25. You guys can have episode 25 as the end of Re:Zero, as for me, I'm taking the "what if" chapter lol.

Though yeah, I'm gonna enjoy most of those arc 3 episodes. So hype for arc 3, but not hyped for its end ;_;

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I'm personally not hyped for episode 25. You guys can have episode 25 as the end of Re:Zero, as for me, I'm taking the "what if" chapter lol.

Though yeah, I'm gonna enjoy most of those arc 3 episodes. So hype for arc 3, but not hyped for its end ;_;


We don't know what happens in volume 9 yet so Tappei could literally do anything with "that". Maybe he will do it somewhat more tolerable for people like you :3
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whew, I guess arc 3 really is good as they said huh? I bet you're liking every moment of it lol


In comparison to arc 1 and 2, yes arc 3 is crazy good.

So much happens, so much is revealed, the stakes are higher, overall everything is just...better.

That's why source material readers like me and Darklord are so stoked for it :D


Interesting. But it doesn't seem that @DarklordVor is hyped for its ending lol. I guess that's understandable since he's obsessed with that girl. I mean Emilia looked better and kinder than Rem, but he did say he like crazy girls like Kotori.

By crazy good, do you mean more crazy Rem? From the chapter 13 manga @DarklordVor posted,


Then there's a higher stake, I'm thinking of more deaths for our best car Subaru.
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Fappa said:
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I'm personally not hyped for episode 25. You guys can have episode 25 as the end of Re:Zero, as for me, I'm taking the "what if" chapter lol.

Though yeah, I'm gonna enjoy most of those arc 3 episodes. So hype for arc 3, but not hyped for its end ;_;


We don't know what happens in volume 9 yet so Tappei could literally do anything with "that". Maybe he will do it somewhat more tolerable for people like you :3


Hopefully he makes it less painful... or he will just went full sadist mode and be destroy and hope to the readers. *scream internally*

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Interesting. But it doesn't seem that @DarklordVor is hyped for its ending lol. I guess that's understandable since he's obsessed with that girl. I mean Emilia looked better and kinder than Rem, but he did say he like crazy girls like Kotori.

By crazy good, do you mean more crazy Rem? From the chapter 13 manga @DarklordVor posted,



Oi oi, I didn't say I like crazy girls in general. Rem and Kotori went crazy "unconsciously" like Kotori's Efreet mode and Rem's Oni mode. Rem's feature is not only her craziness you know :3

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Interesting. But it doesn't seem that @DarklordVor is hyped for its ending lol. I guess that's understandable since he's obsessed with that girl. I mean Emilia looked better and kinder than Rem, but he did say he like crazy girls like Kotori.

By crazy good, do you mean more crazy Rem? From the chapter 13 manga @DarklordVor posted,


Then there's a higher stake, I'm thinking of more deaths for our best car Subaru.


Well
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Fappa said:
bobzanny said:




DarklordVor said:
bobzanny said:

The amount of hype for Arc 3 is rising by the day.


I'm personally not hyped for episode 25. You guys can have episode 25 as the end of Re:Zero, as for me, I'm taking the "what if" chapter lol.

Though yeah, I'm gonna enjoy most of those arc 3 episodes. So hype for arc 3, but not hyped for its end ;_;

Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending.

We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero.
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bobzanny said:




bobzanny said:
Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending.

We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero.


Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3
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I ... don't want to wait any longer..

That ending is probably a love-hate moment lol
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I ... don't want to wait any longer..

That ending is probably a love-hate moment lol


I believe
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Fappa said:
bobzanny said:




bobzanny said:
Just as boobs are fake asses, episode 25 is a fake ending.

We both know what is the real ending of Re:Zero.


Ah I actually like that ending of arc 3

Fappa confirmed sadist.


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bobzanny said:

Fappa confirmed sadist.


No...no..n...okay you're right :D!

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Fappa said:
bobzanny said:

Fappa confirmed sadist.


No...no..n...okay you're right :D!

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Fappa said:
bobzanny said:

Fappa confirmed sadist.


No...no..n...okay you're right :D!

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Yes, I found another sadist. Grab the popcorn and enjoy the ending of arc 3 with a bright smile or an evil laugh. :3 (DarklordVor hates me now)
Re:Zero nice troll ending.
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Exactly. That's why I think Re:Zero will leave a really good impression for most people after ep.25.

And Subaru's suffering so far is ... you know it already. It's just the beginning. I'm sure he will break some (more) hearts. ^^


Btw. I see it's already the most favored series of the season.
It's quite impressive because almost nobody heard of this before.
Now imagine it after arc 3.. :D
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Once thing I've noticed upon rewatching this show, is that there's a lot of subtle foreshadowing that pays off in big ways. Like it feels every scene is contextually important. White Fox is truly outdoing themselves this year.
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Exactly. That's why I think Re:Zero will leave a really good impression for most people after ep.25.

And Subaru's suffering so far is ... you know it already. It's just the beginning. I'm sure he will break some (more) hearts. ^^


Btw. I see it's already the most favored series of the season.
It's quite impressive because almost nobody heard of this before.
Now imagine it after arc 3.. :D


Definitely.

Oh yes he will and others too. Hell certain characters managed to win my heard immediately and seeing their fate unfolding in front of my eyes just hurt me so much.

Exactly and that's why the "overrated" or "overhyped" argument absolutely doesn't work in my opinion.

This show didn't have an army of manga reader hyping the hell out of it.

The source material was close to completely unknown here in the west.

It didn't ride on any obvious success of a show because the majority deemed it as your generic fantasy harem show.

The show earned its popularity ( and its rating, at least here on MAL ) through the content it delivered week by week so in other words, by itself. To me that's a sign for a legitimately good show.

I can only say it again and again, week after week. I'm baffled that this show has already seen such a positive reception and popularity despite being at its weakest point in the entire story and this 2-cour season. The real meat of these 25 episodes lies in the second cour, the author knows that, the source material know that and even White Fox themselves know that. What I recognized is that they seem to hold back in various areas. Soundtrack wise we have heard a considerably low amount of different OST throughout these 9 episodes. The opening and ED visuals also seemed to hold back as they were really careful to only depict what lies in arc 1+2.

I believe that once we hit arc 3 they go full throttle and a lot of eyes will be on this show despite the arrival of a new season.
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