Why Most Old School Anime is way better than Seasonal Modern Anime?

Sep 14, 2015 5:41 AM

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Hellsoldier said:

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And last but not least: There are great directors and scriptwriters today. There are great animators today. Great soundtrack composers today. Great shows overall, and yes, the Magical Girl genre needed a shake-up. I just wish that more cyberpunk and more down-to-Earth Yuri (Aoi Hana or Sasameki Koto) was around.

Great Director and Script Writers are already Endangered Species.

Masaaki Yuasa is the savior of modern anime, but he`s so lazy to make his next anime tv series.
Shinichiro Watanabe lost it`s charm after Mitchiko to Hatchin.
Kunihiko Ikuhara lost it`s charm after Penguindrum.
Hayao Miyazaki already quit.
Yoshiyuki Tomino is too old and can`t make his new mecha anime anymore.
Satoshi Kon, Ishiguro Noboru, Osamu Dezaki is already dead.
Izubuchi Yutaka is a lazy slacker and he has no idea which anime he`ll direct next.
Anno Hideaki is a slow-ass lazy director and his last rebuild of evangelion movie is in the works in a very slow pace.

Great Animators are working in overrated studio such as Kyoani and Ufotable.
Director and Script Writer in both Kyoani and Ufotable are Hack.

The Magical Girl genre anime is no longer aimed at little girls anymore, it`s aimed at unemployed horny otakus.

Cyberpunk is almost extinct and many japanese people aren`t interested in Cyberpunk genre.

About Yuri, Aoi Hana sounds Enlightening Coming of Age lesbian story.
Sasameki Koto sounds a bland forgettable romcom but with girls.

No thank you, i think i`m gonna watch Aoi Hana much later.

P.S.
Gen Urobuchi is a Hack Writer and he ripped-off Tomino`s writing style by making the characters robotic and pretentious at the same time.

Yuasa, I hear, takes a lot of roles within anime production, so I guess that spends a lot of energy. I haven't watch any of his works yet. But I hear nothing but great things from them so... I will pick them up.

As for Watanabe, I was engaged byZankyou no Terror... Albeit I was blown away when I watched Cowboy Bebop and the Knocking on Heaven's Door movie.

Never watched a Miyazaki work, though I have heard of his works. I will pick them up, eventually.

Tomino... What the HELL was G-Reco supposed to be anyways? And I liked the old-inspired animation. Made me think I could try out the old Gundam titles.

Paranoia Agent was my only Kon work thus far. It was spetacular. Dezaki directed Oniisama e..., didn't he? Ichigura... I only know Megazone 23.

Izubuchi... I love Rahxephon.

I think Anno broke down... again.

I actually like and love a few works from KyoAni, at least. I'll beg to differ there. But I respect your opinion.

To be fair, Madoka is not to blame for the ''seinenization'' of the Magical Genre. Nanoha was. And yes, I love Madoka. Unapologetically so. But no, not gonna trash people who disagree.

Well yeah, Ghost in the Shel SAC and Arise and Psycho-Pass are essentially 3 cyberpunk shows in a sea of anime these last 15 years. Yeah, it's a dying art.

Aoi Hana is wonderful. As for Sasameki Koto, it's essentially reviewed as a bit more comic but still earth-grounded. Albeit many just prefer the manga, since it goes into the final year of school and involves two girls accepting their relationship worthy and continuing it into adulthood. I'll admit that of these, I only watched Aoi Hana. As for Sasameki Koto, I read the manga reviews.

I accept your opinion on Urobuchi, but I gotta ask: Where do you see it? It is true Urobuchi loved Zeta Gundam as a child. But I actually see personalities in the works I watched (Madoka Magica and Psycho-Pass). Maybe you see something I don't... Or the other way around. Who knows?

with in the home market name one watanbae show that has had lasting impact im sorry i cannot do that and hes passiable skilled

while tomino created two of the most impactfull anime there are both witch are well witten them being gundam and ideon hes better story teller tha watanabe is

As mentioned before, I only started on Tomino recently. I know I started with a rotten one, instead of his greats. Watanabe, however, did have an impact. His works are the reason many westerners got into anime in the first place, much like Akira and Ghost in the Shell and other works that dragged western audiences into anime. Home Sales are not everything.

i never mentioed sales im talking general pop cultre impact shw most Japanese over the age of 30 a picture of either char or teh rx 78 and most will know what it is

i cannot say that about people with nay watabnae chacter at all

i enerv said sales once

Well, admittedly Watanabe's impact is, as I mentioned earlier, more of a western thing. Tomino is behind Gundam, which was a culltural phenomena like no other. Tomino was more successful at leaving a mark with the Japanese. And without a Tomino, there would be no Hideaki Anno. I guess this much is true.

what has any watabame done to genrial westen pop culture

i was talking about people outside of anime fandom

Tomino had this

Ah, you mean like Blade Runner is influential even outside Hollywood? Then I guess Tomino and only a few other people qualify.

thats what iwas talking about all along genreak pop culture impact

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Sep 14, 2015 5:49 AM

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Antilope said:

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Anime from any period that are good>anime from any period that are bad
But new anime is better because of Inferno Cop alone.

But Inferno Cop is from 2012, that's basically ancient.

2012 is ancient? when OP says old days i think he means 90s & 80s.
Classics like Akira and Ghost in the shell.

Sep 14, 2015 5:51 AM

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You're better off saying "the best old anime are better than best modern ones." That's something I can agree on without hesitation.

Sep 14, 2015 6:03 AM

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TonyTheme said:
You're better off saying "the best old anime are better than best modern ones." That's something I can agree on without hesitation.

I don't think that's true, there are enough new series(within the last 5 or so years) which I could call great and very comparable to good old series.

Sep 14, 2015 6:43 AM

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Old anime > New anime

Sep 14, 2015 6:54 AM

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Hathyle said:

Antilope said:

But Inferno Cop is from 2012, that's basically ancient.

2012 is ancient? when OP says old days i think he means 90s & 80s.
Classics like Akira and Ghost in the shell.

Silly

FUCK YOU MAL

Sep 14, 2015 6:57 AM

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Kreion said:
I don't think that's true, there are enough new series(within the last 5 or so years) which I could call great and very comparable to good old series.

You haven't seen anything before 1980, the only thing in that decade you've seen is DBZ, and the same goes for the 90s outside Nadesico and Princess Mononoke. I don't think you're versed in the medium enough for me to take your opinion too seriously there.

Sep 14, 2015 6:58 AM

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no?

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Sep 14, 2015 7:21 AM

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Of course the classics are better than most modern anime, I personally don't like the classics though. They're just a bit boring.

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Sep 14, 2015 10:39 AM

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Dezaki, I've been eyeing Rose of Versailles for quite a while. I mean same mangaka as Oniisama e... (Ryoko Ikeda) and apparently they have the same director. Also, inspired Utena. Can't go wrong with that. Will obviously check the others as well.

About Madoka, things are a bit compicated. I understand where the criticism lies, but at the same time, can't agree with it. This because of the following: I relate to Madoka Kaname, because I myself feel powerless even though everything is going down around me. Her case is related to death and magic. My case is related to poverty, health of loved ones, personal frustration, and far more recently, death. Sometimes, you just feel that worthless, even though very few people in this world are actually worthless. Sayaka, I actually relate to her desire to become a hero, as I myself have an ideal of what I want to be, and how I want to live. I have ideals. Mami, I simply like her. Kyouko, I guess a dreaded life can make you filled with sorrow and cold-blooded at points. Homura is the hardest one to explain... Maybe someone with gratitute who wanted to save someone who's precious to her... and became obssessed with her goal in the meanwhile. This conversation became to influenced by my personal outlook on life, and I apologize for that. It's just that, yeah, even characters that are seemingly absurd sound real to me at times.

Maybe he's more popular because he's more recent. To be honest I never checked anything from the God of Manga. I know, I know. I am probably missing out on something, but I'm only in the Anime business for 2 years now. And yes, I find it unfair for something being more popular for being more recent. But I actually enjoy Urobuchi works. I already explained my train of thought on Madoka and Psycho-Pass.

Gargantia... I never watched Votoms. The oldest anime I watched are Megazone 23, Bubblegum Crisis, Akira, A.D. Police Files, Bubblegum Crash! and Oniisama e.... And I had no antipathy towards the women of Gargantia. I find most sexually-based insults to be unfair treatment.

Aldnoah.Zero... When I first saw it I though of Code Geass meets Gundam. Turns out it was so... But whatever, I liked it. Even if the defects are there.

I have been thinking of giving Love Live a try. I mean, I even have my brother trying to get me to watch it. I keep hearing about how good it is. And Hell, if I am watching Cinderella Girls, where I can sense a slight sense of artificial and excessive cuteness, I should watch Love Live.

i just hope you`ll watch one of Dezaki`s anime soon.

Kaname Madoka is not relatable, she`s a Plot Device who do nothing but observe things like a camera and cry all the time; she`s poorly-written version of Shinji Ikari from Evangelion; rest of the characters are legit plot device.
Madoka Magica is not a dark tragedy magical girl anime, it`s the Epitome of Shock Factor by using Plot Devices as characters because the writers thought that realistic human beings are boring.

Gen Urobuchi is so overhyped and overrated.
He got 5146 member favorites on MAL while Osamu Tezuka got 1268 member favorites.

Those are the only old anime you`ve watched?
Votoms is one good realistic mecha anime, you should give it a shot.

Aldnoah.Zero is far the worst mecha anime i`ve ever watched, it was ruined by the script writer of Boku no Pico by adding unnecessary yaoi undertones between Inaho and Slaine.

Yes you should try Love Live a shot, why are you watching Cinderella Girls? that anime is the worst idol anime i`ve ever watched because the drama is horrible and cringeworthy, the original Idolm@ster is way better.

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Sep 14, 2015 11:04 AM

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It has to do with the social trend in Japan

It is so dense. Every single image has so many things going on.

Sep 14, 2015 1:17 PM

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Locked.

Thread is essentially trolling and the pictures in the opening post are more than enough to indicate it. And if not trolling, very close to blogging and voicing an opinion bordering on insults. Sorry for not closing it down in time.

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