SPOILERSSteins;gate ending after rewatching 1st episode

Dec 15, 2014 8:42 AM

mareebree

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Dec 15, 2014 8:41 PM

Huex3

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No he is not in steins gate in Episode 1 he is in beta worldline.

let's say there are 3 okabes

Okabe1-Original Okabe. The Okabe who we didn't actually see.

Okabe2-Okabe Who continued beta worldline. The one who killed Kirusu and the one who sent Okabe 3 the video mail.

Okabe3-The Okabe we know who made it to Steins Gate

Okabe 1 sent D-mail that led him to alpha worldline. There he discovers the way how to make the time machine with Kurisu(the 3 week experience). He made it back to Beta but this is the first time this happened thus there is no time machines yet. He then goes and makes a time machine and issues the mission to Suzuha to save Kirusu.

NOTE: IN OKABE 1 TIMELINE IT IS KURISU'S FATHER THAT KILLED HER NOT OKABE.

From here it restarts

Okabe2 sends D-mail. Led him to alpha worldline like before. But this time around Okabe1 already built a time machine and ordered Suzuha to assist Okabe2 in saving Kurisu. But they failed and Okabe2 Accidentally killed Kurisu. Okabe2 gives up rescuing Kurisu after failing once then stands back up to his feet and still tried to find a way to rescue Kurisu.

And then it restarts again

Finally we see Okabe3. This is the Okabe we know and watched. Okabe3 must fail once so that he will become Okabe2 in the future.

BUT!

Okabe2 sends Okabe3 a video mail detailing what he learned in the future to change everything(much like how a D-mail does). Thus Okabe3 has what Okabe2 does not have. Information on how to save Kurisu and enter Steins Gate worldline.

I hope this clarifies things. This is actually my theory on the matter.

Steins gate kinda like an unknown worldline or a worldline which is birth from the Okabe3. He created a worldline. The theory which steins gate use(The Multiverse Theory) states that any possible thing that can happen may happen in an infinite amount of different timelines. So according to this Steins Gate is a worldline which came from Okabe3 existence. If there was no Okabe3 to instigate Steins Gate's existence there will be no Steins Gate worldline.

I got kinda confused with what I said so... yeah that's that lol

Dec 16, 2014 5:17 AM

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Ok,i am now more mindblown,u are right,I rewatched just first half of first episode,but it does make sense in way.in short u explained my theory in details and things i didnt realised XD, but it is sad ending tho :C

Dec 16, 2014 7:10 AM

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mareebree said:
Ok,i am now more mindblown,u are right,I rewatched just first half of first episode,but it does make sense in way.in short u explained my theory in details and things i didnt realised XD, but it is sad ending tho :C

Indeed it is sad but only for Original Okabe(Okabe1). Because you see Okabe2 sent a D-mail(The video file) to Okabe3. This D-mail that he sent will activate his Reading Steiner and send him to Steins Gate worldline.

Okabe1 however... Will still be stuck in his timeline and will never reach Steins Gate :(

But I have seen some talks that there is only one dimension that can exists at a time. So that would mean that past, present and future Okabe will be transported to Steins Gate which would give a happy ending for everyone.

Dec 17, 2014 6:40 AM

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Huex3 said:

Poor okabe1 :C

Dec 28, 2014 2:53 AM

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It's a little hard to explain how I see it. Basically, there are sad sacrifices if you think of time in a linear fashion just as how human experiences it. Thus, Okabe1 has to have occurred first before Okabe2 and 3 can happen. But if you think of the future not just as something that is going to happen but as "inevitable consequences" based on the progression of the current timeline (they don't sound very different, I know. lol. But I will explain what I meant). So in a sense, yeah, Okabe1 exists in order to have a time machine in 2036 to send Suzuha back. But when world's past has been altered such that it aligns onto the S:G worldline, Okabe1 would no longer happen/exist, and so it's kind of like there is actually no Okabe1 once the changes are made.

As we know if we manage to alter the past, all things that is in the present and future will be altered as we are now on a different worldline. You can see it as there are infinite amount of worlds happening. Alternatively, you see it as only having one world that is happening, and there are infinite amount of possibilities which constitutes the different worldlines, but these other possibilities outside parallel to our worldline are merely possibilities but not co-existences (or you can see it as it does not concern us so we don't view them as something that is occurring, since we can only be in one wordline at any one time point).

With that in mind, there is really only one Okabe after all, and every time he changes something in the past (may it be the 2036 Okabe as "inevitable consequence" built a time machine and sent Suzuha to change the past, or the 2010 Okabe changing the past via D-mail or time leap), the world changes. As soon as the past is altered, the entire world becomes on a different line and only the "inevitable consequences" of that worldline is real while all the other possibilities are no longer real. So there is actually no sad Okabe that has to live through his life sad for Kurisu because this "inevitable consequence" is only true in Beta-line but no longer true when the world is in S:G worldline.(so Okabe1 is only a possibility in the perspective of S:G worldline)

Something like that. So I guess in short it depends if you see parallel universes as co-existences or only as possibilities.

JackyhkDec 28, 2014 3:06 AM

Dec 28, 2014 3:41 PM

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Yes it depends on how you view it. According to the series they go by the one-world theory which views the other realities as possibilities.

The sad sacrifice of Okabe1 may exist if the world runs on parallel universes. Fortunately, this is not the case in Steins Gate series ^_^

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