Major Spoilers About Makoto - School Days Ending

Kolle said:

But in terms of how he got stabbed. The girl picked up a knife, ran up to him while he was surprised, and ultimately stuck into him thus allowing the action to be called a "stabbing".

YoungVagabond said:
To be fair, effectively stabbing a conscious target (not when they're sleeping, but awake and walking around) is incredibly difficult for anyone, male or female.

Unless you have practice with effectively using a blade, there is also a very good chance that it will end up lodged in your own body. And personally, I can inflict WAY more damage, far more quickly and effectively with my fists than I could with a blade. (Granted, I used to be an amateur boxer, but I believe this applies to a lot of other people who don't know how to use a blade)

So yes, an untrained teen girl not just getting an effective stab in, but killing someone with a single thrust is absurd. However, compared to all the other inane, unrealistic bullshit in that anime, it shouldn't even warrant you raising your eyebrows, let alone a dedicated topic.

natsucule said:

You make it sound so simple.

YoungVagabond said:
Unless you have practice with effectively using a blade, there is also a very good chance that it will end up lodged in your own body.

Kolle said:

It was pretty simple in the anime. She literally, after going through traumatic stress issues etc, decided to take the knife, go up to Makoto, and stab him. It's not like there was some crazy 5 minute scene of the girl going through multiple obstacles that she would have to get passed in order to have the knife penetrate Makoto's skin. All she did was go up to him and stab him. Nothing less nothing more.

Shrabster said:
What? I never stabbed anyone but it seems a pretty simple affair that doesn't require the utmost strength. If you watch the scene she lunges at him and sticks him in the gut with part of the force being her putting her body weight into it. She also doesn't kill him in one stab, he falls down (after being stabbed with a fairly large kitchen knife) and proceeds to get stabbed repeatedly. Also, you don't need a well made knife either anything slightly sharp or pointy gets the job done as seen in prison shankings.

Hotdogmaniac said:
Oh I see. SHe stabbed him with the knife while he wasn't looking. But she didn't have to kill him. I mean, sure he slept with a lot of women, but why kill him?

Hotdogmaniac said:
Oh I see. SHe stabbed him with the knife while he wasn't looking. But she didn't have to kill him. I mean, sure he slept with a lot of women, but why kill him?

Red_Keys said:
Seriously?

Because it was fanservice.

Shrabster said:
She's fucking crazy/ crime of passion.

Shrabster said:
What? I never stabbed anyone but it seems a pretty simple affair that doesn't require the utmost strength.

Shrabster said:

If you watch the scene she lunges at him and sticks him in the gut with part of the force being her putting her body weight into it.

Shrabster said:
She also doesn't kill him in one stab, he falls down (after being stabbed with a fairly large kitchen knife)

Shrabster said:
Also, you don't need a well made knife either anything slightly sharp or pointy gets the job done as seen in prison shankings.

YoungVagabond said:
Yeah, that's the way most people who have never used a knife to fight reason. "It's so easy!" Similarly, people who have never been in a fight think it's "a pretty simple affair" to throw an effective punch, something that takes months, if not years of training to learn.

YoungVagabond said:
Uh-huh. Try lunging that way at a friend of yours with a dull knife (or a plastic toy knife) and see how successful you are. You might graze him, but you're not landing the point of the blade into his stomach with your body weight behind it. It's very slow and telegraphed.

YoungVagabond said:
Most people don't fall down from being stabbed a single time, especially not with a kitchen knife, whose points aren't that sharp or durable.

Again, the way most people get stabbed to death by a dilettante is a few dozen times in their sleep, or when the dilettante is vastly stronger than them, knife or not.

YoungVagabond said:
Except that in prison, many do know how to use a blade properly, and are presumably many times larger, stronger, and faster than a 100 pound Japanese schoolgirl. You might as well compare Sekai to a professional boxer while you're at it, to show why the former can knock people out with ease with a single punch.

For those who don't know how to use a blade, they can use a knife effectively against someone conscious that they could have beaten to death bare-handed. But not against those stronger than themselves.

All things considered, a slight Japanese schoolgirl killing a conscious male classmate with nothing more than a kitchen knife, with him collapsing on the first thrust, when she is utterly clueless on how to use one is not realistic.

Anywho, this is a silly conversation. We're talking about one of the most idiotic anime series ever, based on a mindless adult visual novel with violence thrown in as an additional hook. Inanity, lack of realism, and stupid bullshit is the norm.

Shrabster said:
It's not a fight though, it's a stabbing, very different.

Shrabster said:
She ran up on him and stabbed him in the stomach with what looks like a 6-8 inch Japanese chef knife. I've never been in a knife fight but I do own and collect high end knives such as SOGs, benchmades, Spydercos, Esees, and etc. as a hobby for years and know a thing or two about them, and I can say without a shadow of a doubt you don't need much strength if any to push a knife into soft material or anything slightly pointy and thin for that matter.

Shrabster said:
I have no doubt knife fighting is a complex thing, knowing how to move and position yourself, gripping the knife, stance, and everything else but there are still only two things you can do with the actual knife- slash and thrust. And this is not a fight.

Shrabster said:
I honestly couldn't tell you, I've never been stabbed. However it doesn't seem completely out of blue for someone to stumble back in pain and fall or kneel after being stabbed with a 6 inch knife. Also the geometry of the knife she used is very good at stabbing things with the only thing better that I can think of being a straight up dagger with a spear point design. It was thin and pointy, and Japanese chef knives are well made. Regardless, you literally just need something slightly pointy that doesn't even have to be that durable for stabbing soft things like people- See prison shanks.

Shrabster said:
A prisoner will more than likely be bigger and stronger, but I doubt they'd know how to use a knife anymore than a regular Joe.

Shrabster said:
I honestly think your making it out to be more complicated than it is.

Shrabster said:
What's 10x as unrealistic though is how Makoto got all those girls in first place.

Shrabster said:
The thing you seem to be missing is it wasn't a fight which is what you are comparing it to with your boxing analogies.

Shrabster said:
I don't know a thing about boxing,

Shrabster said:
but I know it takes a lot more strength to throw an effective punch than it does to pierce something with a knife,

Shrabster said:

Strength doesn't come into play because it hardly takes any at all to pierce meat,

Shrabster said:
you don't need to be 6.2 180Lb of muscle

Shrabster said:
Proper technique for slashing and thrusting don't come into to play in this situation because she was literally right on him and wasn't going to miss a completely unaware and stationary target so landing the hit never enters the equation either.

YoungVagabond said:
And you keep missing my reply to that, which is that however you want to characterize it, neither a punch nor a slash/thrust with a blade is easy to execute properly and connect with.

YoungVagabond said:
Nor about stabbing with a blade, per your own admission. And yet, you're convinced because of some visual scenario you thought up.

YoungVagabond said:
Completely wrong. This is what happens when you make assumptions about subjects you don't know about.

It doesn't take raw physical strength to throw an effective punch. I could barely lift anything substantial in a gym and was very underweight when I was an amateur boxer, although my punch was harder than guys who were several times stronger than me physically.

YoungVagabond said:
Did you read my last reply at all? While I conceded that perhaps the knife Seika used was a razor-sharp chef's knife, actually landing that thrust straight in someone's stomach is a difficult feat.

YoungVagabond said:
That's actually quite skinny, heh.

YoungVagabond said:
It's been some years, but I recall Makoto observing Seika when she was several feet away, and her lunging those several feet in a straight line towards him. He didn't move a muscle, and when stabbed, instantly collapsed, instead of screaming at the top of his lungs from the pain and trying to escape.

For whatever reason, you're defending this as logical.

Hotdogmaniac said:
And why did she cut off his head?

Shrabster said:
Unless you're three feet away and the target is stationary and unsuspecting. Skill/technique is not in question here.

Shrabster said:
Not that it matters I said I know nothing about knife fighting, I use knives everyday for daily things, work, and prepping food but this is all beside the point as it's a matter of common sense and physics.

Shrabster said:

So strength has nothing to do with throwing a punch? Okay, guess what also doesn't have anything to do with strength? Stabbing someone. My point was you can literally push a knife into somebody and it will penetrate. You can not cause damage with a fist simply by pushing it into them with no force or strength behind.

Shrabster said:

She was three feet away and the target is stationary and unsuspecting. Skill/technique is not in question here. He did scream in pain, and fell where he tried to get his bearing and scrambled to escape. I posted the video. If you do not see how someone could be killed by a knife when the assailant is three feet away and the victim is unsuspecting and connecting is not an issue which is what your whole argument hinges on you are just being dense. The physical feats in that scene are entirely feasible and not far fetched in the least.

Riptos said:


Honestly I don't think it was Sekai that did that. I think it was Kotonoha that went to Sekai's house when she wasn't there and did the job herself. Been a while since I watched it but I think the bag containing said head belonged to Kotonoha did it not?

YoungVagabond said:
You are correct. Kotonoha finds Makoto's dead body in the apartment, cuts his head off, and puts it into her bag.

Incidentally, cutting off someone's head with any conventional kitchen knife, even a sharp chef's one, is a very difficult feat, nevermind for a small, frail schoolgirl.

YoungVagabond said:
Except the "target" clearly sees Sekai, and even reacts before being stabbed.

YoungVagabond said:
Yeah, and throwing a punch is just "a matter of common sense and physics". (Pet peeve- Non-scientists mentioning "physics" in a context where the word doesn't apply) Anyone can throw a punch as well as Tommy Hearns or Mike Tyson!

Have any more fantasy visual scenarios to pull out of your ass? Maybe you can inform us on how "elementary" it is to throw a strike with a baseball, and that any short, 100 pound Japanese schoolgirl can do it based on what you saw from a Major League pitcher?

YoungVagabond said:
For someone who likes writing really long, inane replies about subjects he is ignorant about, you sure hate reading. Thankfully, there is copy and paste;

While I conceded that perhaps the knife Seika used was a razor-sharp chef's knife, actually landing that thrust straight in someone's stomach is a difficult feat.

YoungVagabond said:
Shame I no longer live in SoCal, when Bakersfield was an hour away. I would buy you a plastic knife, and give you 30 solid seconds (several times the amount it would take to successfully run out of an apartment) to successfully stab me in the stomach from 3 feet away. I wouldn't even defend myself using strikes (punches, kicks, knees, and elbows) or use any objects like those that can be found in any apartment. I would be able to grab your arm, but that's it.

Winner would get $200 from the loser.

Shrabster said:
This is once again incorrect and shows you don't know much about cutlery or even watched the show at this point. Kotonoha used a dozuki (hand saw) which is serrated, not a kitchen knife. The only thing semi tough to cut through would be the bone and the saw/serrations eliminates that problem. This is entirely physically possible for yes, even a teenage girl. Before you even attempt to debate me on this one I worked as a butcher for a fair amount of time at a grocery store. You seem to be confusing the unrealistic plot for unrealistic physical feats.

Shrabster said:
Where did you even get this? It's common sense with the knowledge of physics that a thin pointy object pierces easily and I don't have to stab someone to prove this.

Shrabster said:
You keep bringing up "knowing nothing about", so let me ask you how many people have you stabbed, how many times have you been stabbed, and how many "knife fighting classes" have you've been to?

Shrabster said:
Blah Blah Blah

Jotaro_Kujo said:
Eh don't want to get into a long protracted debate over inane nonsense, but stabbing someone to death is indeed difficult. The human body is incredibly resilient, and often times the surge of adrenaline in this situation tends to dull the sensation of pain in the victim. It would have been a simple matter for Makoto to grab Sekai's arm, land a blow to her face, or otherwise overpower her (all of which would be done instinctually).

It isn't entirely implausible though, especially if Makoto either possesses abnormally substandard strength (being a scrawny Japanese beta male this isn't wholly unlikely) or otherwise suffers from severe mental retardation (also not unlikely given his actions throughout the course of the show). This is especially true if Sekai managed to pierce his heart or one of his lungs with the first few strikes. However, realistically speaking this is again highly unlikely.

As YoungVagabond states, the anime's sheer inanity and stupidity should be a bigger concern.

Jotaro_Kujo said:
Eh don't want to get into a long protracted debate over inane nonsense, but stabbing someone to death is indeed difficult. The human body is incredibly resilient, and often times the surge of adrenaline in this situation tends to dull the sensation of pain in the victim. It would have been a simple matter for Makoto to grab Sekai's arm, land a blow to her face, or otherwise overpower her (all of which would be done instinctually).

It isn't entirely implausible though, especially if Makoto either possesses abnormally substandard strength (being a scrawny Japanese beta male this isn't wholly unlikely) or otherwise suffers from severe mental retardation (also not unlikely given his actions throughout the course of the show). This is especially true if Sekai managed to pierce his heart or one of his lungs with the first few strikes. However, realistically speaking this is again highly unlikely.

As YoungVagabond states, the anime's sheer inanity and stupidity should be a bigger concern.

YoungVagabond said:
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I will take your word on that.



Damn, I told you my pet peeve is people completely ignorant about science using "physics" incorrectly, and you write THIS? Urgh. The human skin being pierced easily or not by a knife is not "physics"; it's probably closer to "physiology".



I only stab people who use the word "physics" improperly.



You have to love how earnestly people with no knowledge of a subject will construct a fantasy scenario in their mind and then argue it to the death. There's no real way to convince them that hey, some part of that scenario isn't true to reality (like it being easy to effectively stab someone with a kitchen knife, surprised of not, with no knowledge of how to use a blade), so the most you can do is try to profit off their stupidity.

Alas, I no longer live in SoCal!



Well-stated.

Shrabster said:
You wouldn't happen to be an alt would you?

frozentime4 said:
Whether you like it or not, physics is involved here. I'd say even more so than physiology itself. The human (belly) flesh is easy to pierce if a full body lunge is performed. Yes, a 100lb girl running at full speed is enough to pierce through. Yes, people have natural instincts and have eyes good enough to see a 100lb woman running towards them with a knife 3-6ft away. I'm pretty sure you've had a needle struck in your body before (immunization, blood donation, fluids, dextrose, whatever). The person who applies the need do not need to mash the needle into the skin. All it took was gentle force. By the same logic, the knife would work the same but with a bit more force. So yeah, Shrabster did not use physics inappropriately. We are not exactly how bodily functions or organs interact with each other. It just so happened that the target of the knife is a human body and the situation would really be not that different if it were a sand bag instead of Makoto.

Unfortunately, not everyone has the reflexes nor the skill to evade or counter. Remember, Makoto is not a fighter. Also, Makoto is also unaware of the situation. Also, Sekai is working with a purpose and driven by emotions. If anything, Sekai has had tons of adrenaline running in her body not Makoto. Adrenaline does not work at lightning speed but it does work pretty quickly. Remember, this is not a fight where adrenaline kicks in preemptively before the bout begins.

Speaking of pain tolerance, try to consider that Makoto is still a young dude. He's not a fully built adult. Not to mention, a knife can really mess several organs at once in one stab. There may also be emotional factors to be considered. Even if Makoto is a fully grown adult, I doubt he's one of the select few people who can stand up after taking a deep stab and should be able to combat an emotionally crazed woman.

frozentime4 said:
Also, Sekai is working with a purpose and driven by emotions.

YoungVagabond said:
You all keep missing the point. A knife can do significant damage if it connects, but connecting with the person's body is the hard part. And no, wild lunges by a schoolgirl that has never handled a blade are not particularly difficult to evade. I know this from personal experience, not fantasy scenarios I conjured up in my head.

Shrabster said:
Why don't you explain instead why she couldn't connect instead repeating that one line over and over again,

what fantasy scenario is it that you keep mentioning,

You can't because you are talking out of your ass and have been the whole time.

YoungVagabond said:
It's easy enough in Spazter's imagination, of course. Then again, this is the same dude who thinks JotaroKujo is an alt of mine, so his brain is fairly poor at processing information.

Again, I'm sure he thinks throwing a fastball strike is easy, too. "What skill? You just throw a ball really fast! It's simple! I've seen Major league pitchers do it, so why can't everyone else?

YoungVagabond said:
The stupid one you keep posting over and over in this topic, where a human being is a completely stationary target that doesn't react to danger or even violently scream and try to stagger away after a single stab wound. (Most people dying of knife wounds are stabbed 20+ times before bleeding out.

YoungVagabond said:
Says the spaz who has never tried to stab anyone with a knife, has never had anyone stab him (I have), knows nothing about boxing yet discusses that too, argues like a little child throwing a temper tantrum, and believes two different users daring to disagree with him MUST be alts.

Shrabster said:
You've been stabbed? I'm sorry to hear that if it's true.

YoungVagabond said:


This part I will clarify for others interested. I had someone try to stab me. This was an idiot I knew back around the time I was 14. After I beat him up in a fight, he ran to his house and came back with a kitchen knife. He took a couple of swings at me that badly missed, then decided to go back home before things became worse. (One of my friends saw what was happening and had just run up to the scene)

Keep in mind that when he came at me with a knife, I wasn't trying to run away, which I easily could have; I was waiting for an opportunity to grab his arm and take the weapon away. I wasn't a badass at 14, either; this was before I started boxing, many years before I started submission grappling, and had just begun strength training. I was also severely underweight for my height.

And this guy was a hell of a lot bigger and stronger than Sekai. I was about 6' 2" and 150 pounds at the age of 14, and he was probably 5' 10" and 140 pounds.

Sorry, reality is very different from a shitty anime adapted from an eroge visual novel.

Shrabster said:
You wouldn't happen to be an alt would you? Or do you also like to use the word inane a lot and just not post much? It doesn't matter either way. No one is arguing how ridiculous the plot is. Stabbing people to death is tough I agree, Sekai sure didn't seem to have an easy time with it given she had to stab him quite a lot after an initially planned out ambush. I won't pretend I know how adrenaline works and say whether or not a completely surprised and unsuspecting Makoto could have tanked his way through all those stab wounds or be completely unphased by a six inch long, wide knife going into him multiple times, adrenaline or not, but if I had to put my money on one I know which one I'd go for.

Jotaro_Kujo said:

I tried to be civil with you, and your first response is to accuse me of being an alt because I happened to agree with another poster? Are you fucking serious? You would make that claim even though a cursory glance through our respective profiles should tell you how completely asinine that would be?

I don't frequent these forums often, and your post reminds me why I don't. You are hearing the word "inane" a lot because it is an apt description for you, your arguments, and this idiotic topic. No one is indeed arguing how ridiculous the plot is - that is a subject for another discussion. The argument was concerning the plausibility of a frail, inexperienced girl wielding a knife effectively enough to kill someone who by all counts should be strong enough to repel such an attack. You severely underestimate the strength gap here and the sheer difficulty of killing someone with a knife. Your laughable references to physics offend my sensibilities, as does your stupidity.

Jotaro_Kujo said:
My god you're an obtuse fool. If you had the brains or the means to do so, you would check my profile and realize that my update history and the infrequency of my posts would lend credence both to the fact that I prefer not to post here often (due to the insufferable idiocy that I tend to run into, case in point here with you) and to the fact that YoungVagabond and I are completely different people. If you were even more resourceful (very doubtful at this point), you would be able to check our IP addresses and confirm this. That you would even resort to this line of thinking betrays your vapidity and imbecility. You are best advised to drop this point before embarrassing yourself any further.

My lack of knowledge concerning physics? I don't know you, but I guarantee that I know far more about math and physics than you do. My point about your blithely throwing about the word "physics" in this context has to do with how invoking basic classical mechanics (principles of force and momentum are high school concepts, you are not impressing anyone by blurting out "physics") in a highly complex real-world situation is as relevant as applying basic kinematics to basketball. You are attacking a strawman when you claim that it is physically implausible for a ~100 lb. teenage girl to stab someone. NO ONE has claimed this, and if you had any reading comprehension you would have seen my first post and realized that I stated it wasn't entirely implausible for such a scenario to play out.

The debate has to do with the plausibility of a weak girl killing someone stronger with a knife, not if it's physically possible or not for her to do so. An example would be a streetfight between two people, let's say a 5'10'' 120 lb. man vs. a 6'1" 240 lb. man. Yes, it is possible for the weaker man to physically muster up the strength to knock out the bigger man. BUT THAT IS NOT WHAT IS BEING DEBATED. The debate centers on the chances of that happening, which would need to take into account their skills, their builds, their mental states, etc. Just as you harp on endlessly about the physical plausibility of Sekai stabbing Makoto (which no one has refuted), but ignore that what YoungVagabond and I are talking about is what would realistically happen in such a situation. It's a very nuanced discussion, and your lack of knowledge on basic physiology (the effects of adrenaline, fight-or-flight), combat situations, and the overwhelming disparity in strength between males and females leads me to believe that continuing to explain this to you would be akin to teaching differential geometry to a monkey.

Shrabster said:
I used the word physics because it was the proper fucking word to explain it. Once again with the useless comparisons, because you are comparing it to a fight assuming both had equal opportunities to defend themselves which was not the case. Watch the scene, it was not a fight. The plausibility of a weaker person killing someone with a knife is very high if they attack them before they have the chance to defend themselves just like what happened in the scene. Vagabond was certainly disputing this with his argument being she couldn't make contact yet never explaining how just like you. You avoid any questions and points presented to you and default to more insults, as usual. Come back when your arguments have some sort of merit or substance.

Jotaro_Kujo said:
It's a very nuanced discussion, and your lack of knowledge on basic physiology (the effects of adrenaline, fight-or-flight), combat situations, and the overwhelming disparity in strength between males and females leads me to believe that continuing to explain this to you would be akin to teaching differential geometry to a monkey.

YoungVagabond said:
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Now now, I would easily take a chimp or even gibbon of average intelligence over Spazster. Don't know about differential geometry, but I can probably teach the pro-simian the Heine-Borel Theorem from general topology before getting Spazter to acknowledge that his silly fantasies aren't reality.

And yes, Spazster is throwing around the word "physics", a subject he is as ignorant about as everything else, to sound smart. It has as much to do with the question of stabbing a moving target as it does with punching it. Nothing.

I am curious what would happen if I asked him what physical phenomena is pertinent to this case, though. (We never did study how a stab wound would effect a human being in any of my physics classes...that was the med students) Guarantee this dolt probably couldn't name you any of Newton's Three Laws without looking them up, and would probably still screw up the formulation of the 1st or 3rd one after looking it up.

Jotaro_Kujo said:
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My fucking God can you not read? NO ONE CLAIMS IT'S A FIGHT. I don't know about Vagabond, but the reason I brought up the simple example of a fight is to demonstrate to you the nuances that come into any physical altercation, regardless of whether or not it was a fair fight or was initiated as a result of an unequal situation. In fact, if I remember correctly Sekai blindsided Makoto and stabbed him starting from a distance of several feet. Certainly this is not a traditional fight with equal opportunities, and it is plausible that Sekai would land a stab on Makoto with these situations. THIS I DO NOT DISPUTE, AND HAVE NEVER DISPUTED. This is why I laugh at your invoking physics haphazardly, because OF COURSE it's physically plausible. Never have I denied this.

If you had the brains you would reread my posts, and would realize that I was not debating the physical plausibility of landing a stab, though there are nuances that go into a discussion of whether or not the initial stab attempt would be successful - nuances that I've tried to address and you've ignored. Rereading my posts, you would see that I CLEARLY allowed for the situation to play out where Makoto is successfully stabbed, and even addressed how a wound to the heart or one of his lungs would allow her to successfully kill Makoto. I ACKNOWLEDGED THIS, and said verbatim that it was not wholly implausible. Yet you fucking ignore this like a trained monkey, and still harp on points which have already been addressed. The debate centers on the plausibility of Sekai successfully killing, not merely landing an initial strike. Anyone with even a modicum of logic would then successfully understand why I then brought up the point of adrenaline, and how after the initial strike it would be realistic for Makoto to react instinctively to try to repel her attacks - hence the point about physical ability now coming into play!

Listen, I don't know about YoungVagabond, but I'm actually willing to be patiently listen and address your arguments, if they were actually substantial and didn't completely fucking ignore every point I made. I only responded because of how annoyed I was at how obtuse you were, and your insinuation that I had to be an alt, because there is certainly no way that more than one person could disagree with you.

YoungVagabond said:


You are getting into tinfoil hat territory here. Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is an alt of mine. It's all a giant conspiracy.



You all keep missing the point. A knife can do significant damage if it connects, but connecting with the person's body is the hard part. And no, wild lunges by a schoolgirl that has never handled a blade are not particularly difficult to evade. I know this from personal experience, not fantasy scenarios I conjured up in my head.



As someone who has been in (many) fights, being "driven by emotions" is a major handicap, making that person's movement much slower and more telegraphed.

Anywho, you can believe what you want. Conversation became stale and dumb a while ago.

fronzetime4 said:
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eturntiy said:
If you rewatch the swimming pool episode, you see he is very thin and has no muscle.

YoungVagabond said:
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Your fantasies and imagination are no more relevant to reality than Spazter's.

Like I mentioned on the last page, I have had someone try to stab me with a kitchen knife where the strength difference wasn't as great as it was between Makoto and Sekai. Didn't even connect once.

Even in instances where a stab is successful, many times the victim manages to escape and survive. Hell, there was a recent story about a terrorist swinging a freaking axe in NYC and connecting with the head of a cop. An axe to the head from a fully-grown male adult is a hell of a lot more dangerous than a stab with a kitchen knife from a tiny Japanese schoolgirl, but guess what? The cop survived.

In 99% of cases when someone is stabbed to death, one of the following is true;

1. The victim was asleep.
2. The killer was much stronger and more skilled than the victim.
3. The killer was very good at using a blade.

None of which apply here. So it's really fucking unlikely. Don't believe me? Ask a freaking cop.

Or, more likely, continue jerking yourself off over your fantasy scenario in this topic.



Yeah, because Sekai is just brimming with power and speed in her massive frame and well-trained muscles, right? In case you didn't know, a skinny, weak guy is vastly stronger than a girl of the same size, nevermind a smaller one.

eturnity said:
Sekai also works part time as a waitress so she has stamina from serving and balancing plates of food, and is used to working hard in general.

YoungVagabond said:


HAHAHAHA. I can't even make up something this funny. Thanks for my first signature! Appreciate it.