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Aug 29, 2021 10:14 AM

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nightcrawlercyp said:
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Why the fuck did you revive this thread from 2016 that only applies to S1

I was so confused reading the comments

I do not think it applies just to season 1. Also I revived it because the amount of RE sequels became really annoying and I just searched for a thread where to vent... not sure what your problem is here...


The sequels didn't exist when this thread was made and you're the only one commenting after they were made
Aug 29, 2021 11:48 AM

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Rojaseb said:
nightcrawlercyp said:

I do not think it applies just to season 1. Also I revived it because the amount of RE sequels became really annoying and I just searched for a thread where to vent... not sure what your problem is here...


The sequels didn't exist when this thread was made and you're the only one commenting after they were made
how is it relevant they did not exist at the beginning of this thread? Re Zero is still garbage
Aug 29, 2021 11:54 AM
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Since its back and Im jsut now watching it:
Subaru.
Like... Im completely tired of the whole "I don't wanna die" every other episode when he is reborn the next day.
Aug 30, 2021 8:34 AM

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I did watch a bit from the second season
Aug 30, 2021 12:50 PM
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The fact that a new season hasn't been announced, because Arc 5 would be absolutely killer animated.
Aug 30, 2021 1:05 PM
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I feel it hasn't delivered satisfactorily on a single mystery yet.




Thats an example, literally every single question we have in the series is answered in the most roundabout fucking way imaginable, and yet the answers themselves are boring and uninteresting.


Second, I do not care about any of the side conflicts.


Third, the source of the conflicts are dumb af. The origin of the problem lies in how retarded the antagonists all are. Like what is this, a fairy tale? Why is every character defined by one and only one trait?? And to utilise those characters, all the author does is just twist them. Not make them feel genuine.



Aug 31, 2021 1:40 AM
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JeXxTaR said:


And what did you expect?

yeah(?) I guess its not relevant as a mystery. But I mean, Rezero is all about questions, but I never feel satisfied at the answers we get and the road we take to those uninteresting answers is always the most twisted.


JeXxTaR said:

So you don't care about the ONLY character who saved the protagonist's life many times during the first half of season 1? Ok...

Yeah, she was never put in the spotlight for me to get attached to. I liked her in S1 but then s2 overestimated how much we cared about her and then explored aspects of her that wasn't really creative. Leading to a boring character arc. This is a problem with most characters in rezero.
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Bruh, I can list at least 10 traits for every character in this show, even minor characters like Miklotov, Russel and Meili (I bet you don't remember who they are) have backstories.

you won a bet
Having backstories isn't relevant to the point I was trying to make.

Also, even a child can point out 10 character traits of a basic ass character. But I don't think any character in rezero is "defined" by more than one trait.

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About Daphne:

In my language, we call it "convenience".

Aug 31, 2021 5:20 AM

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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:
I did watch a bit from the second season


But you didn't even finish watching s1...
Why did you watch it if you don't like it?

Because it started with a good premise even if the main characters were badlly written:
MC is a retarded weak sissy boy, his main love interest is a Mary Sue, The twins have almost no personality and the little they have is removed when the author feels fit, the bad guys are cardboard villains, the only interesting character was Pack which is not so veilled refference to Puck the mischievous demon/fairy from dream of a summer's night. Nevertheless the premise was good and I was hoping they do something worthwhile with it... but sadly they did not...
Aug 31, 2021 11:13 AM

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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:

Because it started with a good premise even if the main characters were badlly written:
MC is a retarded weak sissy boy, his main love interest is a Mary Sue, The twins have almost no personality and the little they have is removed when the author feels fit, the bad guys are cardboard villains, the only interesting character was Pack which is not so veilled refference to Puck the mischievous demon/fairy from dream of a summer's night. Nevertheless the premise was good and I was hoping they do something worthwhile with it... but sadly they did not...


First of all, that's not what I'm asking, my question is why did you watch a bit from season 2 if you didn't finish watching season 1?

Second, everything you said is wrong but I can't explain why without spoiling you which is why I told you that you need to watch the show COMPLETELY if you want to talk about it.

Oh please spoil it. I am curious how I am wrong. That being said I think I forgot to update the myanimelist .I did finish season 1 and started a bit of two. Since is been a while I only remember pieces but I remember at some point Pack froze everything.
Aug 31, 2021 11:57 PM

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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:

Oh please spoil it. I am curious how I am wrong. That being said I think I forgot to update the myanimelist .I did finish season 1 and started a bit of two. Since is been a while I only remember pieces but I remember at some point Pack froze everything.


I think it's easier if you watch season 2 but sure


Sep 1, 2021 5:56 AM

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1. he fears the pain... that is even worst
Also just because some girl returns the affection of a simp for a minute does not mean he stops being a simp
2. I do but not gonna argue about this. Also you seem not to understand what a simp is. Plenty of simps that are in relationships and plenty married.
3. About Bem and Rem having much personality. The moment the simp rejects Rem her personality stops existing and the personality of Bem fades away a bit earlier.
4. Sorry but I do not see it

And as a fyi if I need to watch two seasons to start enjoying a show is not a good show.
Sep 1, 2021 7:14 AM
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I hate Subaru, Rem, Emilia and every single character that appears in this series.
Sep 1, 2021 7:16 AM
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I didnt like the first season on my first watch as i felt that it dragged, rewatched it and didnt find it that bad.
But the 2nd season, especially the first part is really slow. It feels really repetetive with little to none storyprogression with each episode. In the 2nd part it was ok since you got the feeling that what subaru does actually changes things.


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Sep 1, 2021 8:50 AM

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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:

1. he fears the pain... that is even worst
Also just because some girl returns the affection of a simp for a minute does not mean he stops being a simp
2. I do but not gonna argue about this. Also you seem not to understand what a simp is. Plenty of simps that are in relationships and plenty married.
3. About Bem and Rem having much personality. The moment the simp rejects Rem her personality stops existing and the personality of Bem fades away a bit earlier.
4. Sorry but I do not see it

And as a fyi if I need to watch two seasons to start enjoying a show is not a good show.


1. Have you ever seen a human who doesn't fear pain?

2. At this point, I've discussed with a lot of people about Subaru "simping" for Emilia, so of course I know the term perfectly.

Just being in love with someone or saving the life of someone you care about is NOT simping.

3. No, she has the same personality after that moment, what part of their personalities fades away?

4. You need to watch season 2 if you want to see it.

I don't care if you never enjoy it, that's completely subjective, the issue here is that you are complaining about season 2 even if you didn't watch it.

1. No. But you learn to control it at least as a man. He did not.

You need to watch season 2 for... right... no thank you!
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Main thing for me that annoys me the most about rezero is the amount of time Subaru dies and gets reset, makes me feel like the plot isn't going anywhere and just feels like a repeat of the same things but with a little change in what he does that magically changes everything making Emilia, rem ect not die which makes the plot feel very sloppy and boring.
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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:




1. he fears the pain... that is even worst
Also just because some girl returns the affection of a simp for a minute does not mean he stops being a simp
2. I do but not gonna argue about this. Also you seem not to understand what a simp is. Plenty of simps that are in relationships and plenty married.
3. About Bem and Rem having much personality. The moment the simp rejects Rem her personality stops existing and the personality of Bem fades away a bit earlier.
4. Sorry but I do not see it

And as a fyi if I need to watch two seasons to start enjoying a show is not a good show.
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who the fuck is Bem?
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who the fuck is Bem?
@Megaman-is-hard1 I meant Rem and Ram. Bem is from another anime. A good anime, but different. https://myanimelist.net/anime/39221/Bem
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nightcrawlercyp said:

Oh please spoil it. I am curious how I am wrong. That being said I think I forgot to update the myanimelist .I did finish season 1 and started a bit of two. Since is been a while I only remember pieces but I remember at some point Pack froze everything.


I think it's easier if you watch season 2 but sure


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Emilia sure as fuck has her moments in the novels for sure that make her a complete lunatic
Jun 23, 8:50 PM
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As Rem explained it, "from zero" is kind of like how Subaru saved Rem from her "stopped time". It was Subaru putting his empty/hated himself behind, and moving forward.

I think Rem's development is important since she is the only one who can guide Subaru out of his mental state (at the time of ep18). She is the only one who understands what Subaru is going through without actually knowing what he's going through. She's been along with him the whole time, fighting the witch's cult, getting mutilated by Betelgeuse, etc. If anyone else tried to talk Subaru out of this situation of giving up, it wouldn't work.... Because no one else knows what he has went through or shared his experiences. Rem was there the whole time.

For that reason, I don't think Rem's development was a waste. People just think she's supposed to be Subaru's love, but that's not her purpose in this story. And it never was.
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yeah, she's a forced and shitty unrealistic plot device
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@Jagd84 @tragedydesu

As Rem explained it, "from zero" is kind of like how Subaru saved Rem from her "stopped time". It was Subaru putting his empty/hated himself behind, and moving forward.

I think Rem's development is important since she is the only one who can guide Subaru out of his mental state (at the time of ep18). She is the only one who understands what Subaru is going through without actually knowing what he's going through. She's been along with him the whole time, fighting the witch's cult, getting mutilated by Betelgeuse, etc. If anyone else tried to talk Subaru out of this situation of giving up, it wouldn't work.... Because no one else knows what he has went through or shared his experiences. Rem was there the whole time.

For that reason, I don't think Rem's development was a waste. People just think she's supposed to be Subaru's love, but that's not her purpose in this story. And it never was.



Exactly. Rem works in Arc 3 because at time she is only person from manor Subaru has any personal contract with who is a friend after his mishap at the start of the Royal Election. As he and Emilia are fighting with each other at that period (which also part of development of their relationship). Rem is ultimately there to help him come to terms with his self-hate at own his weakness so he could face Emilia again without forcing his feelings over hers byacting like some hero in a fairy-tale and convey that he isn't helping Emilia another reason than his feelings for her. This the thing he learned most from Rem and would not have happened without her development from Arc 2 led her to falling in with Subaru.
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i disagree. I hate her character arc, because it's hypocritical of the message in episode 11 of being her own person.
She literally goes from idolizing and copying one person and portraying it as bad
To doing the same shit the next arc and reward it.
How do you reward regression? It's so hypocritical.
From zero only exists because forced drama like the crush conversation
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Emilia sure as fuck has her moments in the novels for sure that make her a complete lunatic
@Megaman-is-hard1 she isn't a lunatic 24/7? I mean she has a double personality one of which being a psycopath.
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@Megaman-is-hard1 she isn't a lunatic 24/7? I mean she has a double personality one of which being a psycopath.
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no, but she is crazy. Especially in recent arcs
spoiler warnings) subaru gets sealed away, and her priorities are based on the royal selection being cancelled
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JeXxTaR said:
nightcrawlercyp said:

Oh please spoil it. I am curious how I am wrong. That being said I think I forgot to update the myanimelist .I did finish season 1 and started a bit of two. Since is been a while I only remember pieces but I remember at some point Pack froze everything.


I think it's easier if you watch season 2 but sure


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1. After dying and returning back to life so many times without a scratch you should no longer fear death. But he does. Is brave only when you risk something... Another problem is that he whinnes about every minor problem and he is such a spineless simp for every girl in the anime it sickens me.

Honestly, the fact that this idiot isn't cationic is wild. It's even worse since his backstory contradicts everything. This guy became a hikkimori, yet when he gets isekaid, he somehow has unnaturally strong mental fortitude.
As for the fear of death, arc 4 gaslight and manipulates him into fearing death and tells him that he shouldn't shoulder everything by himself, which is dumb.
1. Most of the people around him treat him like shit.
2. He HAS to die for them. It's not a choice. They're his lifeline just like he's theirs. If they die, his life is automatically harder. The witch's sermin is garbage from a logical perspective because in later arcs, his friends die. Let's pain a scenario, subaru's team wins, but in the process, Beatrice, Garfiel, Whilhelm, Julius, and others die. So... he just moves and that's it? That's dumb and his life is less difficult. If you want him to rely on others, then he NEEDS to die to save them, otherwise, he's fucked. It's like pokemon. If you lose more pokemon, then the trainer can't do a damn thing. Subaru is the pokemon trainer and everyone are the pokemon that are essential.

You're right about the spineless shit. it's super annoying. This guy for some reason isn't allowed to have a backbone. it's even worse when the story portrays this as a good thing, arc after arc, after arc, after arc, after arc
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@Jagd84 @tragedydesu

As Rem explained it, "from zero" is kind of like how Subaru saved Rem from her "stopped time". It was Subaru putting his empty/hated himself behind, and moving forward.

I think Rem's development is important since she is the only one who can guide Subaru out of his mental state (at the time of ep18). She is the only one who understands what Subaru is going through without actually knowing what he's going through. She's been along with him the whole time, fighting the witch's cult, getting mutilated by Betelgeuse, etc. If anyone else tried to talk Subaru out of this situation of giving up, it wouldn't work.... Because no one else knows what he has went through or shared his experiences. Rem was there the whole time.

For that reason, I don't think Rem's development was a waste. People just think she's supposed to be Subaru's love, but that's not her purpose in this story. And it never was.
@FononZero
For that reason, I don't think Rem's development was a waste. People just think she's supposed to be Subaru's love, but that's not her purpose in this story. And it never was.

Her role in the story only exist because the mc is unrealistic because he shouldn't be able to function. Not to mention, the characters acted like plot devices and not actual characterd
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