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Mar 18, 2021 3:59 PM

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remembers Extella

Wasn't that also written by Nasu? And honestly, it wasn't good, imo
Mar 18, 2021 4:18 PM

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Shaft: Nasu-san, we're big fans of you. Some of us are die hard FSN fans too! We have an amazing past relationship animating the op to CCC and Extella. You are a genius story teller and world builder and have helped put small companies like DW on the map and made billions for Sony. Please let us also share in the wealth and make millions. Let us make an Anime together! Go crazy! UNLEASH YOUR FULL POTENTIAL!
Mar 18, 2021 4:36 PM

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Shrimperor said:
remembers Extella

Wasn't that also written by Nasu? And honestly, it wasn't good, imo

I forgot the name of other writers but wasnt one of the writers for early fgo also writing for Extella?
Mar 18, 2021 4:47 PM

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Sakurai wrote Nero and True. Nasu wrote Tamamo's. And Altera I think was also Nasu, but it might have been co-written with Sakurai

Mar 18, 2021 4:54 PM

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Nero was too basic.
Tamamo was a slog and boring.
Altera's route actually felt like an actual FSN quality style writing.

Insulting comparison yes but Im just illustrating how much of a quality leap it was from Nero and Tamamo.

True End route was eh... It has some good and some bad. Especially the super Anime power up at the end lol.

If I reread Extella again, it is definitely for Altera's route.
Mar 18, 2021 4:59 PM

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I agree actually. Altera's route was really good. And she was my fav. from that game
has nothing to do with her being a giant choco Illya

It doesn't help that Nero and Tamamo were super repititive, and that the whole timelock thing was kinda meh, imo.
Mar 18, 2021 11:55 PM

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Maybe I'm wrong, but I remember that it was Sakurai who wrote the Nero and Tamamo routes and that Nasu wrote Altera's and co-wrote True End with Sakurai. This is the reason why you'll find Nero's writing in Extella to be very similar to Septem's.

ssjokg said:
Same shit was happening in fgo, the game.

Nasu must realize at some point that not everyone is like Takeuchi, willing to spend their money to fully adapt all of Nasu's charming and much expected bullshit into some medium.

The guy admits that he's not an anime writer and had someone with experience on that front help him on it. As far as the story length is concerned, I don't put this on him

What did SHAFT expect? This is the guy that wrote the wordiest mobile game in existence and they told him to go wild.
Mar 19, 2021 2:28 AM

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You know what, I searched around and actually could not find a credible source for who wrote which routes, but we definitely discussed it years ago. Apparently I just remembered AirCon saying Nasu wrote Tamamo and Sakurai wrote True, but he had a habit of just spitting out his speculations as facts without sources.

Also lol I apparently was actually hype for Extella Link at one point, but I totally forgot it even existed by the time it released.
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Mar 19, 2021 2:31 AM

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i mean nasu defintely did not write nero das for sure
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Mar 19, 2021 2:58 AM

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Whoa, that discussion takes me back. It's like looking at you guys being young with afros and mullets through a grain filter. Mei being a weird ass vegan and Meister still being irrationally angry even though she wasn't there.
Mar 19, 2021 3:01 AM

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what i wasnt here back then
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Mar 19, 2021 3:08 AM

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Sure you were, everyone was there.
Mar 19, 2021 5:13 AM

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Mei_White said:
i mean nasu defintely did not write nero das for sure
Speaking of that OG EXTRA Nero and basically every other version of hers makes Zero Saber and FSN Saber look like the same person.

It is more like Hoha-Ace Nero replaced the OG for the serious parts of the story.

Is it just me that feels that way?
Mar 19, 2021 6:22 AM

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Genkii said:
Whoa, that discussion takes me back. It's like looking at you guys being young with afros and mullets through a grain filter. Mei being a weird ass vegan and Meister still being irrationally angry even though she wasn't there.

now i am reminded of the 'Stache movement.

Good Times. Good Times.
Mar 20, 2021 4:12 AM

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20 pages dedicated for Tsuki Remake including a Nasu&Takeuchi interview confirmed for TM Ace.



https://twitter.com/comptiq/status/1372744490008551430

So yeah, lots of info incoming.
Mar 20, 2021 4:27 AM

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I love how you posted the jp article as if most of us even understand it XD

Expect 20 pages of visuals lol.

Gotta keep that meme alive.
Mar 20, 2021 4:44 AM

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ssjokg said:
I love how you posted the jp article as if most of us even understand it XD

Expect 20 pages of visuals lol.

Gotta keep that meme alive.

It got hammered into my head to source everything. The Wiki References section is my best friend in the whole wide world :P

lol But seriously, sometimes you can use the translation function in Twitter to see additional info.
Mar 20, 2021 11:09 AM

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Yeah, Twitter translation, or paste into DeepL, or use Google Translate camera feature for the pictures.

Also I cant tell if 16000 characters is a lot for an interview transcript
The sun is a deadly laser
Mar 20, 2021 12:33 PM

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I want them to troll us with a delay announcement and cushion it by saying: Aoko Aozaki route.

I can wait another year for that.
Mar 20, 2021 1:22 PM

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Genkii said:
I want them to troll us with a delay announcement and cushion it by saying: Aoko Aozaki route.

I can wait another year for that.
imagine the seething if they announced that they planned to include an Aoko route but they had to scrap it in order to finally release it.
Mar 21, 2021 2:16 AM

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Nah, people would accept it because Mahoyo is a thing.

Now, imagine if instead, they scrapped the Sacchin route again...
Mar 21, 2021 2:41 AM

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no more kohaku and hisui route
only main 3 heroine
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Mar 21, 2021 5:30 AM

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astroprogs said:
Nah, people would accept it because Mahoyo is a thing.

Now, imagine if instead, they scrapped the Sacchin route again...
Mahoyo is still in part 1.

And no sign of development for part 2....
Mar 21, 2021 5:40 AM

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Imagine still thinking there will be routes for Tsukihime girls.

Clearly, route 1 will be Arc, but then the story opens up and route 2 is Saber route, route 3 is also Saber route but here she is a vampire hybrid fusion with Arc somehow, and route 4 bonus dlc (or paid, depends on how much they think they can get away with) will be Saber Alter route.

They might make an Archer route, but I wouldn't bet on it.

Tell me I am funny, I demand it
Mar 21, 2021 8:48 AM

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Next they'll release Tsukihime/Extra KKK, and then make everyone think the game's gonna be about Kohaku, but the title will actually mean Kursed Kinky Kirei. The only one you can romance is Kirei but if you make even a single mistake you either die or somehow end up with Shinji instead. The dlc isn't even a new route, but just a fanservicey outfit for the protagonist and a lil' crescent moon near your cleared save files.
Mar 21, 2021 2:01 PM

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Guys, let's be realistic here. It's going to be episodic releases.

2021 - Arcueid Route. 500k copies sold.
2023 - Ciel Route. 405k copies sold.
2025 - Akiha Route. 300k copies sold.
2027 - Hisui and Kohaku Route. 175k copies sold
2029 - Satsuki Route. 0 copies sold.
Mar 21, 2021 2:11 PM

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2031 - Saber Alter vampire route. 3 Million copies sold
Mar 27, 2021 2:02 AM

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Fate/kaleid liner Prisma☆Illya: Licht - Namae no Nai Shoujo First PV:

Mar 27, 2021 2:50 AM

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Pog
Mar 27, 2021 3:22 AM

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:Weirdchamp:
even tho the manga isnt ending anytime soon
what is there to cover
is it just gonna end at the tanaka reveal and them sending irrya to the past
It's good that Slop leveling won the CR awards with such a power gap, Gaijin Weebs don't deserve good anime.
Not after what they did to frieren, kusuriya, and many others
Mar 27, 2021 11:20 AM

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Yay, i'll see one of my favorite lolis animated again~~
Mar 27, 2021 1:39 PM

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God Nyarly-kyun's pfp is making me so wet.
Mar 27, 2021 3:42 PM

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Mei_White said:
:Weirdchamp:
even tho the manga isnt ending anytime soon
what is there to cover
is it just gonna end at the tanaka reveal and them sending irrya to the past

Maybe they'll do an Infinity War and really end the movie at the end of the world, with a post-credits scene of Gil rescuing Illya and ending with a "To Be Continued".

Personally, I'd like it a lot if they did that.
Mar 28, 2021 10:49 AM

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Today's stream sucked, but there's one great thing that came out of it: Animated Jalter.





Freaking finally!
Mar 28, 2021 1:26 PM

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Man, Helena looks like such a dependable big sister and JAlter has innocent beautiful eyes...

God I just want them to **** each other.
Mar 30, 2021 2:08 AM

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Not sure if it is Tsuki or Fate news.

EDIt it is Tsuki news.
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Mar 30, 2021 4:41 AM

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This was basically a recap of the information in TM Ace for the people who didn't buy it and didn't know about this information.

The only actually new thing in it, is this Melty Blood: Type Lumina trailer:

Mar 30, 2021 12:02 PM

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God that looks great.
I hope Raito is back.

The Moons have a charge phase... not sure how I feel about that since it reminds me of the grind grid from Under Night which I'm not a fan of but it could be an entirely different system. I want more information when they release them.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/mgmyph/heavens_feel_movie_material_interview_with_nasu/

New Nasu interview. Interesting tidbits include

-Angry Mango incarnated would be the Beast of Retribution.

-Zouken's vessel inside Sakura is more like a phylactory that can house his soul when his body is destroyed. So Shirou fucking Sakura was not a threesome.

-Third Magic was lost before AD. Homunculi couldn't use the Third Magic because they lacked souls, Justeaze being the exception. She was a reproduction of the last Third Magic user. But Justeaze had a memory of one day and could only perform the Third Magic once


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-Sherou- said:
https://www.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/mgmyph/heavens_feel_movie_material_interview_with_nasu/


-Zouken's vessel inside Sakura is more like a phylactory that can house his soul when his body is destroyed. So Shirou fucking Sakura was not a threesome.



Didn't know this was a thing people talked about.
Mar 30, 2021 7:59 PM

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"-Zouken's vessel inside Sakura is more like a phylactory that can house his soul when his body is destroyed. So Shirou fucking Sakura was not a threesome."

...pardon?
Mar 31, 2021 12:29 AM

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Its a strange feeling you know ... Now that the BDs of HF3 are finally out ... i dont really want to watch it anymore.
Mar 31, 2021 12:52 AM

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OOOOOOOOH

"Zouken"

I dunno why I read Zelretch and got super confused and wonder wtf Nasu just retcon again. I'm old.

Mar 31, 2021 5:58 AM

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How much was the price for the puppet used as Shirou's body?

Nasu: Priceless, but Touko is the kind that "if she wants something, her purpose to work is money, but when she finally made the thing, she will feel satisfied and toss it away".

Taekuchi: So she won't say the price?

Nasu: Touko will say "Let me think... how about a trade for a PS5?"


Amazing.
Mar 31, 2021 7:37 AM

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Way better than what I understood in the camrip.

Kirei's story was there but in different scenes instead of one big monologue at the end.
By combining his talk before rescuing about AM being evil or not with his opinion of Kiritsugu was a nice touch.

Ilya as well had enough scenes for a bond to develop, they just werent the scenes people wanted.

CG Herc looked better.Still noticeable but not garbage.
And if you slow down the NLBW scen you can see the points where the attacks land on his body both in the far away shot and the one above them.
I dont know if a slow mo would be better or not, but I liked it.


Salter vs Rider was amazing. While they did make Saber look like she gets petrified it is repelled later with magical energy. Some people may not like it but I liked this visual representation.
Medusa's Monstrous Strength, I assume it was, was also great.
Give Medusa a cause to fight for and a good enough magical supply and this is what you get.
The end was just orgasmic.
I dont know why people made a big issue out of the effect of Saber getting stabbed by the Azoth. I was expecting some crazy shit. Not sure if disappointed or not tbh that there wasnt much.

Jewel Sword too OP plz nerf. They even animated Rin's firing CG.

The little shadow familiar is somehow moe. Plz protecc.And is still there at the end lol.

Only complain with the Kirei fight is the abrupt cut and then return at its end. And the subs fucked up Kirei's line about "time", changing it to speed. Shirou didnt win because he was faster but because Kirei's time run out faster.
Why aniplex?

While I get that people didnt understand the whole puppet thing(I still think it is pretty obvious even without learning all the Type Moon secrets) I dont get why some think Shirou died. He is very clearly alive, even if you dont get how.

I dont think I noticed before but Rin and Sakura travel across the world to find Touko, not just Japan. I assumed Japan was a better place to hide but anyway.

Great detail I loved but didnt notice in the camrip: Sakura's eyes are back to their natural color. Just beautiful.

Shirou on the other hand looks like shit in that design even in anime form. Is this an inside joke?

It didnt actually seem fast paced to me. The transition from event to event was fine and the important explanations like the origin of the war, Heaven's Feel and Angra were simple enough to understand.

What I didnt like:....well basically nitpicks.

-Kirei says that he buried Rin in her house's ground....ehm...that doesnt explain much for newcomers. They may get it if they remember what Waver did for Rider.But still "buried" is a leap in logic for them.

-No memory time gaps for Shirou. Instead we get Archer's feelings overtaking him. It isnt bad per se but instead of showing how bad the arm is it goes for the emotional approach.

-His memory loss is also badly shown so the climax with him trying to remember Ilya's name is kinda cringe.

-They removed the "detail" of Angra being tortured. It kinda takes away from the "similarities" with Sakura.


Great film. I dont know if HF would have been better as a TV series but I am more than satisfied with the trilogy.
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What I like about this movie:

- It have great action

Mar 31, 2021 9:06 AM

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ssjokg said:
-They removed the "detail" of Angra being tortured. It kinda takes away from the "similarities" with Sakura.

Angra as usually "just being there" lmao.
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ssjokg said:
-They removed the "detail" of Angra being tortured. It kinda takes away from the "similarities" with Sakura.

Angra as usually "just being there" lmao.

"One minute I was just an ordinary boy the next I am worshipped as a god. The usual stuff. Nothing of importance happened"
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