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Jan 8, 2017 11:52 AM

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ShinsoPriest said:
Nyarlathothep said:


Precisely ! Saw that before, and when I wasted everything I had tried to get Gilgamesh, I made about 20ish rolls and got a single 4* Servant. So, I simply thought that if I can make 100 rolls, I'd have a chance of getting a 5* Servant. But with my luck, even a 1000 rolls wouldn't get me anything I'd want, though I'm surprisingly not that unlucky in this game. I just want to test that, just to check by myself :D
It's kinda weird how some mongrels persons can get few 5* and/or 4* in a same roll, while others get shit.

Some people like me have a certain rank of Golden Rule, and EX luck. While others like you don't have Golden Rule, and E- luck. It's just a fact of life.


Your Golden Rule & EX Luck = $$$$$$, I guess? :p
Well, seeing my account, I can say that the I don't have to complain so much when it comes to this game, which probably explains why my luck is so shitty for anything else Lol I'm simply a bit whimsical.
But I actually want to try this 100 roll to test those percentages, it sounds interesting to observe.
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In my case I have a very low rank of Golden Rule, but A+ luck I guess.
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I've got Golden Rule(Fake) EX so haha fuck you all.
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AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-Ahem, that's pretty unsightly. Let me explain.
So I was just-


So, yeah.

Frostbite_ said:

Umm... I've been meaning to ask, but what is that Re:Zero meme about lol

I know Rem confessed to Subaru and then Subaru told Rem he likes Emilia, but... so what? It's just an anime, lol.

I'm not crying and bitching about losing 60 SQ to the Scatty gacha and being disappointed.


sorry, no can do

It's just memes and fun bruh. Don't think too much about it.




;_;
Jan 8, 2017 1:04 PM

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FFS what the hell is up with Robin's Master?


Is he the new Kirei, spooking everyone?
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FFS what the hell is up with Robin's Master?


Is he the new Kirei, spooking everyone?
His CE is really good with like
Lancelot.
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ShadowfrostZen said:
ssjokg said:
FFS what the hell is up with Robin's Master?


Is he the new Kirei, spooking everyone?
His CE is really good with like
Lancelot.
Meh...
Jan 8, 2017 1:14 PM

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astroprogs said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-Ahem, that's pretty unsightly. Let me explain.
So I was just-


So, yeah.


Congrats, you finally got her that you always wanted to get! :D
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astroprogs said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-Ahem, that's pretty unsightly. Let me explain.
So I was just-


So, yeah.


ssjokg said:
FFS what the hell is up with Robin's Master?


Is he the new Kirei, spooking everyone?

I put it on Gil with two 2030 Wavers and everything melts. JAlter would probably hit even harder.

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astroprogs said:
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH-Ahem, that's pretty unsightly. Let me explain.
So I was just-


So, yeah.


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Jan 8, 2017 2:19 PM

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His CE is really good with like
Lancelot.
Meh...
No really 50% crit damage is god-tier in a crit team
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I tried. No scat.

I least I got the medusa lancer... So my second golden lancer!
... Which means that I probably have the two worst golden lancers in the game.

But that's okay, I'm fine. Carmilla is not with NP lv5.
So yeah, I'm completely fine.

I'm not sad that I didn't got Scat and lost the Jeanne lancer. Not at all.

I'll just focus on the servants that I have now. They are the ones that chose me. They are the ones that really love me.

and just a comment unrelated to the subject:
@ShinsoPriest signature is probably the most cute signature that I've ever seen here.
Jan 8, 2017 7:30 PM

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Now go finish Solomon already astro. There's only you and one other person in my friend list that doesn't have the Cause rank symbol.
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No don't astro. You'll lose what makes you unique at the moment.
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Ishtar seems to need a bit of planning to really capitalize on her strengths. While she has overall a pretty stellar kit, especially that flat out broken third skill, a very careful care on the timing of her skills is essential for her to not be an amazingly gorgeous, but otherwise slightly above average 5*.
However, when a couple of things click for her, she hits like a freaking truck. She's all rounded too, so even if for some reason the window of her skills was missed, she'd still contribute very well with her card set and party buff.

Man, feels good when Best Girl is more than viable for use instead of just setting on my Servants shelf forever being pretty and dissapointing.
I'm not even mad at the RNG of her second skill, since it's inline with Rin's tendency to fuck up at the very last second lol.

Z-Dragon said:
Congrats, you finally got her that you always wanted to get! :D




Thanks guys :D

Now, here's hoping for a welfare 4* Rin in an F/SN event.

belatkuro said:
Now go finish Solomon already astro. There's only you and one other person in my friend list that doesn't have the Cause rank symbol.

ShinsoPriest said:
No don't astro. You'll lose what makes you unique at the moment.

Hmmm. My inner hipster is torn. Finishing part 1 is too mainstream right now, but not finishing it is too casual...

lol Seriously though, I was too caught up with the discounted dailies, so i think i'll get on that when that's over.

ShinsoPriest said:
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Meh...
No really 50% crit damage is god-tier in a crit team

Can confirm.

@Bonssons Oh, welcome back :D
For some reason i completely blinked on your posts before. That was pretty weird.
Jan 9, 2017 4:16 PM

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haha tahnks man.

Just trying to level Jeanne up to 100.

And then decide which servant I will grail ascend after... Which I still don't know.
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Rin Ishtar just needs a NP upgrade and she'll be stellar

@Bonssons Grail Ascend for love, its doesn't really do much gameplay wise unless you're beefing up a 3* or lower(and they take up a lot more grails to use).
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-Mahesvara said:
Rin Ishtar just needs a NP upgrade and she'll be stellar

@Bonssons Grail Ascend for love, its doesn't really do much gameplay wise unless you're beefing up a 3* or lower(and they take up a lot more grails to use).

Does it really matter when their stats only come up to 4* levels?
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ShinsoPriest said:
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Rin Ishtar just needs a NP upgrade and she'll be stellar

@Bonssons Grail Ascend for love, its doesn't really do much gameplay wise unless you're beefing up a 3* or lower(and they take up a lot more grails to use).

Does it really matter when their stats only come up to 4* levels?
That's why I said "beefing up" and it does make them overall more useful since they hit harder and last longer.
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Bonssons said:
haha tahnks man.

Just trying to level Jeanne up to 100.

And then decide which servant I will grail ascend after... Which I still don't know.

I agree with @-Mahesvara . You just Grail ascend for love.

-Mahesvara said:
Rin Ishtar just needs a NP upgrade and she'll be stellar

I don't think she even needs it TBH. You get 50% buff every 3 turns which is faster than even she can recharge her NP. I even prefer her to Gil thanks to her skills.
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astroprogs said:
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haha tahnks man.

Just trying to level Jeanne up to 100.

And then decide which servant I will grail ascend after... Which I still don't know.

I agree with @-Mahesvara . You just Grail ascend for love.

-Mahesvara said:
Rin Ishtar just needs a NP upgrade and she'll be stellar

I don't think she even needs it TBH. You get 50% buff every 3 turns which is faster than even she can recharge her NP. I even prefer her to Gil thanks to her skills.
Yeah, but it hits like a wet noodle. That's her biggest flaw imo, so I can't rely on her to kill mobs effectively.
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-Mahesvara said:
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Does it really matter when their stats only come up to 4* levels?
That's why I said "beefing up" and it does make them overall more useful since they hit harder and last longer.

Yeah but they won't be as useful as say a beefed up 4* or 5* besides exceptions like Euryale. I don't get why people say it's more worth it to grail up 3* and below when it comes to gameplay reasons.
Jan 9, 2017 4:56 PM

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Because Cu Chulainn deserve a gold border.

Jan 9, 2017 4:59 PM

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-Mahesvara said:
Yeah, but it hits like a wet noodle. That's her biggest flaw imo, so I can't rely on her to kill mobs effectively.


Huh? Her NP w/ buffs is really really good.

At level 75 (NP1) she did 120K damage against 3 neutral enemies. She's not lvl 90 Alter level of top-tier AoE, but if it wasn't for Archoria, I'd have said that she's the best Archer in the game alongside Gil and Orion. She absolutely dwarfs Arjuna and Tesla and even deals great damage against non-Sabers/Berserkers.
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astroprogs said:
-Mahesvara said:
Yeah, but it hits like a wet noodle. That's her biggest flaw imo, so I can't rely on her to kill mobs effectively.


Huh? Her NP w/ buffs is really really good.

At level 75 (NP1) she did 120K damage against 3 neutral enemies. She's not lvl 90 Alter level of top-tier AoE, but if it wasn't for Archoria, I'd have said that she's the best Archer in the game alongside Gil and Orion. She absolutely dwarfs Arjuna and Tesla and even deals great damage against non-Sabers/Berserkers.
Well for example, I just used her with buffs and she couldn't takeout a 31k HP rider hand, and there was still over 6k HP left on it.
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-Mahesvara said:
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Huh? Her NP w/ buffs is really really good.

At level 75 (NP1) she did 120K damage against 3 neutral enemies. She's not lvl 90 Alter level of top-tier AoE, but if it wasn't for Archoria, I'd have said that she's the best Archer in the game alongside Gil and Orion. She absolutely dwarfs Arjuna and Tesla and even deals great damage against non-Sabers/Berserkers.
Well for example, I just used her with buffs and she couldn't takeout a 31k HP rider hand, and there was still over 6k HP left on it.

Hmmm, that's weird, she definitely dealt more than this when i used her. Maybe one or more of the enemies weren't neutral in my case?

Well, either way, her damage still outranks all the other AoE Archers who aren't Gil, and she has better slightly better skills than him, so not being a complete AoE monster like Saber/Rider Alter or Raikou is hardly a negative. They are the exception, really, and Servants perform at their best against their opposite class anyway.
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Ishtar is above average. Let's just go with that. You'd most likely have other servants in your party with AoE buffs anyways if you're farming or whatever.

Btw, I know Arjuna is bottom tier, but how is Tesla bad?
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Ishtar is above average. Let's just go with that. You'd most likely have other servants in your party with AoE buffs anyways if you're farming or whatever.

Btw, I know Arjuna is bottom tier, but how is Tesla bad?

IMO His damage is lackluster due to his relatively low ATK for a 5*, he can't stargen well at all and he has slow NP gen most of the time. Also, and that's a small personal complaint, i dislike NPs with demerits.
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Jan 10, 2017 12:49 AM

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Hook, line and sinker. Everyone fell for the bait gacha.

I'm averse to rolling at the moment after the disaster of getting Musashi at the cost of my PSVita budget so maybe I'll pass. Though check back to me in 24 hours and watch me blow everything I have(a meager 60 quartz).

Got to hold on before Ereshkigal comes.
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KING HASSAN OUTTA NOWHERE

Still don't know if I want to roll for the Old Bro of the Mountain. From the one (absurdly long) battle I used him in, I'm not too impressed with his kit. It's all Insta-Kill focused, which isn't useful against servants, and it's a niche already occupied by Shiki.

Jan 10, 2017 2:06 AM

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I Dt know if i sd pull king Hassan
Team Death with saber shiki, hassan-O and titocris/shiki can probably kill some servant in the end
bruh
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Inb4IncomingNerf.

King Kotomine is kinda ridiculous, I wouldn't be surprised if they change him a bit for release.

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I Dt know if i sd pull king Hassan
Team Death with saber shiki, hassan-O and titocris/shiki can probably kill some servant in the end

That would be absolutely game breaking... which, knowing DW, they may actually do. If you forked enough money to get two limited Servants, and presumably got them both to NP5 for the effect to actually matter, they could be willing to throw in a teeny tiny kill-everything-in-the-game button, before they double/triple future enemies' ID resistance.

That's what I'd do anyway :p
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Inb4IncomingNerf.

King Kotomine is kinda ridiculous, I wouldn't be surprised if they change him a bit for release.

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I Dt know if i sd pull king Hassan
Team Death with saber shiki, hassan-O and titocris/shiki can probably kill some servant in the end

That would be absolutely game breaking... which, knowing DW, they may actually do. If you forked enough money to get two limited Servants, and presumably got them both to NP5 for the effect to actually matter, they could be willing to throw in a teeny tiny kill-everything-in-the-game button, before they double/triple future enemies' ID resistance.

That's what I'd do anyway :p

Dont need np5, Just set the Killing skill to 10, usr the New Ce that give you 2 level of np once or edisson, then np chain saber shiki+hassan-O for Death rule breaking everything
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kei78 said:
astroprogs said:
Inb4IncomingNerf.

King Kotomine is kinda ridiculous, I wouldn't be surprised if they change him a bit for release.


That would be absolutely game breaking... which, knowing DW, they may actually do. If you forked enough money to get two limited Servants, and presumably got them both to NP5 for the effect to actually matter, they could be willing to throw in a teeny tiny kill-everything-in-the-game button, before they double/triple future enemies' ID resistance.

That's what I'd do anyway :p

Dont need np5, Just set the Killing skill to 10, usr the New Ce that give you 2 level of np once or edisson, then np chain saber shiki+hassan-O for Death rule breaking everything

You need maximum OC (500%) on the entire chain to get the highest probability you can get, if your target is Servants, not just normal mobs.
You'll need NP5 for all three Servants AND the Kiara CE to achieve that.
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At least its a few weeks away, gives me time to prepare.

Edit: Nevermind its apparently tomorrow...fuuuuccccckkkk
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Dont need np5, Just set the Killing skill to 10, usr the New Ce that give you 2 level of np once or edisson, then np chain saber shiki+hassan-O for Death rule breaking everything

You need maximum OC (500%) on the entire chain to get the highest probability you can get, if your target is Servants, not just normal mobs.
You'll need NP5 for all three Servants AND the Kiara CE to achieve that.

...
Ill Just borrow Genkii's scathash
bruh
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You'd still mostly get like a 1% chance of instant kill on servants when all is said and done.

Basically if you get an instant kill on someone like Drake, roll the gacha.
Jan 10, 2017 7:54 AM
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Watch DW put out this cutie next


I can only assume so since she'll be the only servant from babylonia that hasn't been released yet.
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Jan 10, 2017 8:12 AM

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As much as i want her, i think that they'll save her for much later. They won't put out two Rin clones this close to each other.
Jan 10, 2017 8:23 AM

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They released 2 Medusas at once. And they released Lancer Arturia and Archer Arturia close to each other as well during Camelot and swimsuit event. So they can, and they will do it for the shekels.
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I never got any new servants not even Musashi today, but I got Tamamo Caster, Atalanta (Damn you cat-girl for trolling me.), NP2 Illya, and that damn trap crossdresser, Astolfo (I'll burn him later for a Rare Prism) instead. I guess I'm done rolling after not having more gems left anymore.
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I see all those posts in reddit and here about Eresh. What makes you guys so sure she will be released?

I dont remember the leaked list and afaik she isnt much different from Jason who exists only as NPC.
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She was the big ghost in chapter 14 of Babylonia. The Lancer ghost who was always applying skill seals and NP seals. And Ereshkigal has a lance like weapon in her character art, the one a few posts above. So she's probably a Lancer. She even has Rin/Ishtar's seiyuu voicing her in that battle.

And there were several teases in the story about her returning. When Ereshkigal and Ishtar had a last conversation before she disappears in the ending of Babylonia(she broke the law of the underworld by helping humans), she said she'll see us(the protag) soon, but Ishtar noted that it might be a different her without her memories. And in the Solomon chapter, in the Babylonia pillar, she said that she was rayshifted for some reason before dying and gained a Saint Graph(a Servant body).

So yeah.
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I have one correction. I didn't fell for the bait gatcha since I am saving SQ so not everyone fell for it.

I'm satisfied with my merlin (the first 5 servant I actually wanted and got and also my first limited). and his gatcha thought me that I have no useful method for summoning and if I want someone I need to farm like hell (at list 600)
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So, according to what people said above, there are persons who said ascending a 3* Servant is not a bad thing to do? :o It takes much more grails than ascending a 4* or a 5* so I thought it would be considerred a waste but I don't really see why it'd be a better thing? I hesitate a lot about which Servants I should Ascend and there was a 3* one I considerred doing so.
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They released 2 Medusas at once. And they released Lancer Arturia and Archer Arturia close to each other as well during Camelot and swimsuit event. So they can, and they will do it for the shekels.

Medusa isn't half as popular as Rin for her clones to be huge money makers. Lancer and Gorgon wouldn't be able to carry a rate up each on their own. Any Rin clone, however, absolutely can.

In case of Artoria, they had to. It was a story rate up and the story was about her. Unless we get an event or a story chapter that features her soon, I don't think we'll see her any time soon.

But hey, who knows what DW might do if their next big story thing takes too long and they get too desperate to keep their player base from leaving before it's done.

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So, according to what people said above, there are persons who said ascending a 3* Servant is not a bad thing to do? :o It takes much more grails than ascending a 4* or a 5* so I thought it would be considerred a waste but I don't really see why it'd be a better thing? I hesitate a lot about which Servants I should Ascend and there was a 3* one I considerred doing so.

Grail ascended Herc and Assassin Shiki, for example, are better than most 5*s of their class. If your goal is solely to ascend for a gameplay advantage, there are a select few 3*s and 4*s you can pour resources into and get amazing results.
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Happy new year everyone. (YEA I KNOW IT'S LATE)

King hassan and I got no quartz

JUST KILL ME ALREADY



I seriously need to stop being lazy and watch the F/GO OVA already
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I finally rolled the elusive ultra supah rare Angra.

I lost it after i tried to skip the summoning of the 10roll and it continued with 3 lines.

Now I have every 0-3 star Servant.
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