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I guess no one pointed out that Ereshkigal took Extra Rin as a Vessel, huh.
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King Hassan was officially confirmed in Babylonia to have something similar to a Connection to the Root. He can "Engrave the Concept of Death on those who don't have it, essentially enabling the killing of the unkillable, as he severs his targets "fate" instead of killing them physically".

Holy...

King Hassan can kill Types, discuss

ShadowfrostZen said:
I guess no one pointed out that Ereshkigal took Extra Rin as a Vessel, huh.

Also that, yeah.

Now i really wanna know how all of this happened. Were the Mesopotamian goddesses invited to an all-you-can-possess Tohsaka open buffet or something?
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astroprogs said:

King Hassan was officially confirmed in Babylonia to have something similar to a Connection to the Root. He can "Engrave the Concept of Death on those who don't have it, essentially enabling the killing of the unkillable, as he severs his targets "fate" instead of killing them physically".

Holy...

King Hassan can kill Types, discuss

that sounds so ridiculously overpowered .-.
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Chapter 20 is incredibly irritating, earthquake randomizes your party at the start and a wave comes through that drains 900hp after every turn, the 4th battle in particular is really frustrating.
Final Chapter decreases it by 4000 per turn.
Yes but that was less annoying since you had over 20k HP for each servant and auto heal. Plus if you had Merlin and Tamamo in the party like i did, you're HP will hardly even be reduced
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AUO!!!!



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You can't get them?
I may have mentioned it a few times already, but my app crashes when I try to open it.
I re-installed it once already and then got the chinese version, which for some reason does work.
It doesn't give events right though.


Did you check what android version you have? If you have nougat then you're pretty much fked until DW support it.

Did you try to borrow a friend's phone to do at least the logins or your parent's phone? There should be a way to at least login to get those free tickets.
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Umineko said:
AUO!!!!



Frostbite_ said:
I may have mentioned it a few times already, but my app crashes when I try to open it.
I re-installed it once already and then got the chinese version, which for some reason does work.
It doesn't give events right though.


Did you check what android version you have? If you have nougat then you're pretty much fked until DW support it.

Did you try to borrow a friend's phone to do at least the logins or your parent's phone? There should be a way to at least login to get those free tickets.

6.0
No one I know has an android phone.
Also, if I had the wrong Android version, how come I can play the game in chinese...
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Frostbite_ said:
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AUO!!!!





Did you check what android version you have? If you have nougat then you're pretty much fked until DW support it.

Did you try to borrow a friend's phone to do at least the logins or your parent's phone? There should be a way to at least login to get those free tickets.

6.0
No one I know has an android phone.
Also, if I had the wrong Android version, how come I can play the game in chinese...


AFAIK you can play the chinese version with emulator as well. They just haven't caught up with a lot of stuff that has happened in the normal version.

Tbh if re-installing the game/phone doesn't fix it then idk...
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Umineko said:
Frostbite_ said:

6.0
No one I know has an android phone.
Also, if I had the wrong Android version, how come I can play the game in chinese...


AFAIK you can play the chinese version with emulator as well. They just haven't caught up with a lot of stuff that has happened in the normal version.

Tbh if re-installing the game/phone doesn't fix it then idk...

They're really far behind. I'm playing it rn.
Events probably don't work at all on it - the 2016 christmas one didn't.
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Frostbite_ said:
astroprogs said:

King Hassan was officially confirmed in Babylonia to have something similar to a Connection to the Root. He can "Engrave the Concept of Death on those who don't have it, essentially enabling the killing of the unkillable, as he severs his targets "fate" instead of killing them physically".

Holy...

King Hassan can kill Types, discuss

that sounds so ridiculously overpowered .-.


King Hassan's NP has a 100% chance of instant kill at 100% gauge, and 200% chance at 500% gauge.
In comparison, Ass Shiki only goes up to 140% at 500% gauge.

He's the real deal. Black barrel ain't got nothin' on him.
Instant death is still a shitty gimmick that only serves to make him a pretty bad servant all things considered in this game.
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Skill 1 is just Buster up for 50% with a RNG for Quick and Arts, therefore it's unreliable

Skill 2 is just enemy crit down and removes enemy dodge

Skill 3 is a good heal but with a very big cooldown

His NP is okay at least but he is still inferior to Scathach.

Enkidu's star gen is surprisingly good compared to all the other lancers. Probably Okita levels of good.


Sure he has that going for him at least, but still underwhelming for the hype that was around him.
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astroprogs said:
Now that i think about it, when Nasu said that Babylonia will feature the "Face of Fate", who did he mean?
Rin was introduced before it, Gil is an old character in the game, Enkidu and Medusa are hardly icons for the franchise and Merlin and King Hassan are... yeah, i get the feeling he didn't mean them either.

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That was a mistranslation iirc
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Instant death is still a shitty gimmick that only serves to make him a pretty bad servant all things considered in this game.


That's some Fai level thinking.
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Fai must be pretty smart if he can figure out that instant death is useless against servants, raids, or any kinds of bosses.
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Fai must be pretty smart if he can figure out that instant death is useless against servants, raids, or any kinds of bosses.

It is very handy against hordes of enemies with high HP.
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Fai must be pretty smart if he can figure out that instant death is useless against servants, raids, or any kinds of bosses.

It is very handy against hordes of enemies with high HP.

And how often does that happen versus fighting servants that have very high HP?
Having more damage vs having low damage + instant kill is dumb when most fights are against enemies that are immune to instant death. And if you're farming, having instant death or not is irrelevant when every average AoE NP will kill them anyways.
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ShinsoPriest said:
ssjokg said:

It is very handy against hordes of enemies with high HP.

And how often does that happen versus fighting servants that have very high HP?
Having more damage vs having low damage + instant kill is dumb when most fights are against enemies that are immune to instant death.

I dont know, I saw him delivering 100lk damage on neutral enemies.Even with "Avalon"buffs it is still high damage, when he ha no help from CEs or Master buffs.
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ssjokg said:
ShinsoPriest said:

And how often does that happen versus fighting servants that have very high HP?
Having more damage vs having low damage + instant kill is dumb when most fights are against enemies that are immune to instant death.

I dont know, I saw him delivering 100lk damage on neutral enemies.Even with "Avalon"buffs it is still high damage, when he ha no help from CEs or Master buffs.

NP5 is pretty good at boosting damage. Compare it to NP5 Jack.
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I am chapter 12, how are you supposed to beat quatzesomething something? I bring bunch of assassins but for some reason,only Jack seems to be dealing damage.

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I am chapter 12, how are you supposed to beat quatzesomething something? I bring bunch of assassins but for some reason,only Jack seems to be dealing damage.
Good servants deal no damage to her, evil/neutral servants deal half. That's her gimmick.
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-Mahesvara said:
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I am chapter 12, how are you supposed to beat quatzesomething something? I bring bunch of assassins but for some reason,only Jack seems to be dealing damage.
Good servants deal no damage to her, evil/neutral servants deal half. That's her gimmick.


Thanks. How was I supposed to know that. smh.

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"Merlin? You're Merlin? The half-succubi half-man hybrid, greatest magician of the British isles, the greatest of kingmakers, you're here? AS A SERVANT? You, the one who can't die before the world ends, the greatest magician, you're here?"

Merlin: "I really like the way how you introduce me. That's right. I am the Grand Caster Merlin! Merlin-Onii-san, Magician of Magicians!"

He then explains that he's actually just a normal servant here, even though he can be a Grand Caster (or something like that. I'm not too sure)


Also, I'm a Grand Caster! Same tier as Solomon! All other Servants, especially casters, look upon me with a mixture of jealousy and envy! But in the end all of them must admit defeat and relegate themselves to being second-rate. That's unavoidable fate!

...Ack, I think I said too much, sorry. This is what happens when I speak too much and don't listen to Ana's well-intentioned advice, isn't it? I'm surrounded.

Though this, this is a golden opportunity! There's something I've always wanted to say. "Everyone, watch out, Dragons are coming!"

(Literally dragons xD That's how the battle starts.)

"How about that, Romani! That sounds like you, right? Score me!"

"Ahahaha, an exact imitation, a perfect match!


This guy.

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KaiserNazrin said:
-Mahesvara said:
Good servants deal no damage to her, evil/neutral servants deal half. That's her gimmick.


Thanks. How was I supposed to know that. smh.
The only reason I know that is because I followed a guide on the subbreddit, here it is https://ff.reddit.com/r/grandorder/comments/5h0db9/babylonia_battle_log/
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Last battle lasts only 3 turn :(

What happens :
me : Genkii's Scathy! Can u give me a hand?
Scathy : BAAAAAM!
me: ... ok 200k pv left.. Finish her Squirtoria....

Wanted something moreepic like the 12 Heracles' work....
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Last battle lasts only 3 turn :(

What happens :
me : Genkii's Scathy! Can u give me a hand?
Scathy : BAAAAAM!
me: ... ok 200k pv left.. Finish her Squirtoria....

Wanted something moreepic like the 12 Heracles' work....
I prolonged the battle for fun and ended it in the most fitting way with Enuma Elish to the face, as its fitting for the King of Heroes to land the finishing blow to protect his great empire.
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"Merlin? You're Merlin? The half-succubi half-man hybrid, greatest magician of the British isles, the greatest of kingmakers, you're here? AS A SERVANT? You, the one who can't die before the world ends, the greatest magician, you're here?"

Merlin: "I really like the way how you introduce me. That's right. I am the Grand Caster Merlin! Merlin-Onii-san, Magician of Magicians!"

He then explains that he's actually just a normal servant here, even though he can be a Grand Caster (or something like that. I'm not too sure)


Also, I'm a Grand Caster! Same tier as Solomon! All other Servants, especially casters, look upon me with a mixture of jealousy and envy! But in the end all of them must admit defeat and relegate themselves to being second-rate. That's unavoidable fate!

...Ack, I think I said too much, sorry. This is what happens when I speak too much and don't listen to Ana's well-intentioned advice, isn't it? I'm surrounded.

Though this, this is a golden opportunity! There's something I've always wanted to say. "Everyone, watch out, Dragons are coming!"

(Literally dragons xD That's how the battle starts.)

"How about that, Romani! That sounds like you, right? Score me!"

"Ahahaha, an exact imitation, a perfect match!


This guy.

Literally this
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New - First Order - key art:




The quote is "Don't think. Imasine" tier.


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Now that i think about it, when Nasu said that Babylonia will feature the "Face of Fate", who did he mean?
Rin was introduced before it, Gil is an old character in the game, Enkidu and Medusa are hardly icons for the franchise and Merlin and King Hassan are... yeah, i get the feeling he didn't mean them either.

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That was a mistranslation iirc

The difference was if the word was "face", "icon" or "pinnacle" of Fate. The meaning of the sentence remains the same. I read the same in 4chan, r/grandorder and BL.
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I seem to recall saying the same thing about it possibly being a bad choice of words in the translation but Mira gave a reassuring comprehension explanation that it wasn't.

It was most definitely Rin as Ishtar and she was planned to be included with the Babylon package but as a wise business move she was taken out, released early and sold to us for a 'limited time'.

Rin's face but not Rin.
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astroprogs said:
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The quote is "Don't think. Imasine" tier.


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That was a mistranslation iirc

The difference was if the word was "face", "icon" or "pinnacle" of Fate. The meaning of the sentence remains the same. I read the same in 4chan, r/grandorder and BL.


No, by mistranslation I'm saying that the face of Fate thing wasn't referring to something in Babylon.
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No, by mistranslation I'm saying that the face of Fate thing wasn't referring to something in Babylon.

What was it referring to, then?
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The one that I saw was roughly "By the way, if it's Fate, it has to be that character." It was in a bullet point of a tweet about the details of what happened in the Machi Asobi event that talked about future contents.

I'm not sure at all where the "face" part came from and I tried to dig it up but didn't come up with anything. Maybe there was another source from that but who knows. Things can spiral out of control without anyone knowing and it'll be too late to correct it later on.
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The one that I saw was roughly "By the way, if it's Fate, it has to be that character." It was in a bullet point of a tweet about the details of what happened in the Machi Asobi event that talked about future contents.

I'm not sure at all where the "face" part came from and I tried to dig it up but didn't come up with anything. Maybe there was another source from that but who knows. Things can spiral out of control without anyone knowing and it'll be too late to correct it later on.

Hmmm. The quote seems to be "The "face" of Fate, that character, will be added in the game soon.", so they meant it in general and not particularly Babylonia, yeah.

People assumed they meant Babylonia because at the time there were no new about the Christmas event being launched before it. They meant Rin most likely and all things considered.
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Irrelevant, but does anyone here have encountered payment ad refund frauds in online shopping?
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https://discord.gg/83hEhDQ

Sorry about that.




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Irrelevant, but does anyone here have encountered payment ad refund frauds in online shopping?








[Excuse the grammar or if the question wasn't even answered, just woke up. I'm sure the info would be useful to others somehow.]
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After going through some of Gil's scenes in Babylonia, Gil is a better king than Artoria confirmed.

Dude knows how to be a good ruler AND make his people love him.
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He's not just better than Artoria, I'd say he was the best ruler period.
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Forgot to post these last month. Excuse the Artoria wallscroll reflection.







Nero's glorious ass is on my PS4!
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Forgot to post these last month. Excuse the Artoria wallscroll reflection.







Nero's glorious ass is on my PS4!


It's fucking beautiful...
*Reaches out to screen to try and grab*




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Honestly, what did your work as and how much do you earn each month?

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After going through some of Gil's scenes in Babylonia, Gil is a better king than Artoria confirmed.

Dude knows how to be a good ruler AND make his people love him.

Was there any doubt after CCC?
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#Gildidnothingwrong

I dont remember what he said during the LN Banquet of Kings, but after Babylonia his lines in the anime seem to be out of pity(unlike what Rider says) for someone that tries hard for her people but cant understand them.Which results in doing a crappy job.
Add to that his lines about the two kinds of dreamers.


Imagine reactions in threads discussing who is the better king, full of people that never touched fgo, when we say Gil>others.
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Forgot to post these last month. Excuse the Artoria wallscroll reflection.

Nero's glorious ass is on my PS4!

Nice! The Empress and her slighly pervy praetors are ecstatic for the existence of this product.

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Honestly, what did your work as and how much do you earn each month?

Hmmm. Maybe?

ShinsoPriest said:
astroprogs said:
After going through some of Gil's scenes in Babylonia, Gil is a better king than Artoria confirmed.

Dude knows how to be a good ruler AND make his people love him.

Was there any doubt after CCC?

I refused to spoil CCC for myself and still do now. I wouldn't know.

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#Gildidnothingwrong

I dont remember what he said during the LN Banquet of Kings, but after Babylonia his lines in the anime seem to be out of pity(unlike what Rider says) for someone that tries hard for her people but cant understand them.Which results in doing a crappy job.
Add to that his lines about the two kinds of dreamers.


Imagine reactions in threads discussing who is the better king, full of people that never touched fgo, when we say Gil>others.

Does anyone actually think that Gil is the better king just after the BoK?

At least Gil's demeanour gives off a widely different impression in that scene. Add to that what he says and does in F/SN.
I think even Nasu slowly changed his vision on the character of Gil over time. Gil was never shown to be like this in the original VN sources.
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Does anyone actually think that Gil is the better king just after the BoK?

At least Gil's demeanour gives off a widely different impression in that scene. Add to that what he says and does in F/SN.
I think even Nasu slowly changed his vision on the character of Gil over time. Gil was never shown to be like this in the original VN sources.

pretty much
I mean in F/SN he was an arrogant prick, then he turned into an arrogant prick with motives in Zero.
(Haven't played anything else yet except for GO and am not at Babylon there, so the rest is just what I've heard)
then they focussed on the fact that he apparently knows the mysteries of the universe in extra and turned him into a great king in GO.
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