Tsubasa Omnibus
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Toxic106 said: That is exactly what I'm hoping for XD. I'm sure a lot of fans are hoping for that. Cuz I just don't want to let go of that idea that R!Syaoran's parents are CCS SxS. But as I mentioned before...it'll be hard for CLAMP to do that...because the meeting between the CCS SxS and the meeting we saw in TRC 222 are different.....so.....I dunno..This chapter really is confusing, huh. After reading all of you guys' comment on it, I couldn't help but get a little more confused. Like some of you guys, I've also already assumed that CCS SxS are R!Syaoran's parents. Guess I was wrong. But it is really very CLAMP to make C! SxS into reincarnation and become R!Syaoran's parents. I'm taking a guess, what happen if the reincarnated C!SxS are CCS SxS? ... ... ... ... I'm frying you guys' brains aren't I? Well, that's just my theory. It could never happen though. I'm wondering. If the time space and the different 'worlds' are like... shreded to pieces, what happen to CCS SxS? The only glimpse of CCS SxS is when R!Syaoran's mother was given the star wand from CCS Sakura from a dream. We never really saw CCS Syaoran...or there is no clear evidence of him. |
robbydesuJun 19, 2009 6:44 AM
Possk said: Even though it's been explained...My brain still feels dead. x___x Time paradoxes...Jesus. I was okay with the feathers. I was okay with the clones. I was okay with messing up the time stream. But why the hell make the clones his parents. >< Aagastblah. *dead* What's worse..it actually makes sense, in some twisted sort of way. x_____x LOL Yeah I was ok with all of that too but I don't really like how they amde the clones his parents (even if physically they're not the same) |
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robbydesu said: [ The only connection we see is that CCS Sakura gave her star wand to R!Syaoran's mother (reincarnation of C!Sakura). There is no evidence of CCS Syaoran :P.. Ok so that answers that question I had, CCS Sayoran hasn't appreared at all in Tsubasa since it was always the reincarnation of C! Sayoran. Toxic106 said: This chapter really is confusing, huh. After reading all of you guys' comment on it, I couldn't help but get a little more confused. Like some of you guys, I've also already assumed that CCS SxS are R!Syaoran's parents. Guess I was wrong. But it is really very CLAMP to make C! SxS into reincarnation and become R!Syaoran's parents. I'm taking a guess, what happen if the reincarnated C!SxS are CCS SxS? ... ... ... ... I'm frying you guys' brains aren't I? Well, that's just my theory. It could never happen though. I'm wondering. If the time space and the different 'worlds' are like... shreded to pieces, what happen to CCS SxS? I don't think the Clones reincarnations are CCS SXS, those two met when they were younger and the meeting was completely different than the one shown in 222 |
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| yay, CLAMP's giving an ending to this double manga experiment that has absolutely nothing to do with the rest of the plot. also Syaoran's winning 4 - 3 (4 syaorans to 3 sakuras) |
| Intersting predictions ans theories...... I loved that one in which you say R!Syao parents are actually the reincarnations of C!S&S.... Thou we already knew it... I KNEW IT!!! or should I say... WE KNEW IT! The time loopholes make me remember one of the Suzumiya Series Books.... Who will break the monotony? FWR most likely.... or Clow? Who knows? And who's R!Sakura parents? Well that's the big question dudes.... In fact I dun care for the battle now,.... This chapter made the whole "Oh we met again" interesting.... Looks like something very important will happen... Something that concerns our dear pair of originals of TRC..... So what was first? The Chicken or the Egg? XD I'm loving all this time paradox Signs, Green |
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banmenow said: Actually it's the other way around, Sakura is winning :Palso Syaoran's winning 4 - 3 (4 syaorans to 3 sakuras) 1. R! Sakura 2. C! Sakura 3. Mommy Sakura 4. CCS Sakura 1. R! Syaoran 2. C!Syaoran 3. Daddy Syaoran Toxic106 said: Very important question, I really want to see why. I mean, we haven't even seen the star wand used...my old theory was that R!Syaoran's mother was an older version of CCS Sakura....buuuut now we all know that's not true XDOkay, off topic. Why is CCS Sakura involved in this manga anyway? |
| Wait, wasn't the Clone sakura the same as Mommy sakura, because of the time loop business? Also, in a circular system, such as a self-sustaining time loop, you can start at any point and work your way to that point and its still valid. ie with the chicken and the egg, you can say that the chicken leads to egg, or that egg leads to chick and you are still correct. You can even say that egg leads to chicken leads to egg and vice versa, and you are still correct. What this means is, it doesn't matter what came first; all starting points are equally valid. |
banmenowJun 20, 2009 12:46 PM
banmenow said: Hmmm well with that logic...then there's only 2 Syaorans. Wait, wasn't the Clone sakura the same as Mommy sakura, because of the time loop business? It depends on your perspective I guess. I really see Mommy Sakura as a reincarnation of C!Sakura, meaning a totally different person but with her past life's memories. I treat the same with Daddy Syaoran :P |
| There are still 3 Syaorans 1. Clone Syaoran 2. Syaoran the son 3. Watanuki |
banmenow said: YIKES!! ><There are still 3 Syaorans 1. Clone Syaoran 2. Syaoran the son 3. Watanuki Never never consider Watanuki as the same as Syaoran. I think it was continuously emphasized in both xxxholic and Tsubasa that despite the fact that Watanuki is a replacement, he is considered as an individual as himself - and himself alone :3. It's one of the main themes that is evident in xxxholic I think...as Watanuki is trying to learn about who he is, wondering whether or not he deserves to live ..hmm atleast that's how I see it. I don't remember the pages when Yuuko mentions that they are not the same...sorry >< |
| Well it is a fact that he is another copy of Syaoran, stated by Yuko herself. Some of the things Yuko did for Watanuki was to help him remove the feeling that he shouldn't exist and to help him live a happy life as a normal individual. |
banmenow said: Yeap! But I don't think Watanuki is "a Syaoran". Now that I think about it, I think even Fei Wong said something about Watanuki...hmm..Well it is a fact that he is another copy of Syaoran, stated by Yuko herself. Some of the things Yuko did for Watanuki was to help him remove the feeling that he shouldn't exist and to help him live a happy life as a normal individual. |
| reread that part of the story again...touche. Your point was correct. |
banmenow said: hahaha that's okay :), my memory isn't so great either XD - what page is it on? I'm curious to how they worded itreread that part of the story again...touche. Your point was correct. |
_marshmallow said: Err don't know who you heard that from ><Where in the manga shows that CCSakura gave Mommy Sakura the star wand? I know it's around chapter 132 but I don't see it. It's in chapter 217 "Magic Words" :) I like the title, it ties in CCS! Sakura's "spell" :P Edit: Now that I went over that chapter, here's another question/problem that was never answered/solved. Why is the star wand considered to be important towards Mommy Sakura? I can always go back to my previous theory that Mommy Sakura is the grown up version of CCS! Sakura....but it doesn't fit because CCS! Sakura met CCS! Syaoran in a different way than Mommy Sakura and Daddy Syaoran. Plus when I looked closer and compared the two uniforms that CCS! Sakura and younger Mommy Sakura was wearing....they are both completely different. Which definitely disproves my old theory yet again....HMMM ><...any theories guys? |
robbydesuJun 20, 2009 3:01 PM
Toxic106 said: Here are some of my answers or theories/speculations XD..Funny, I don't have another theory, but instead, got more questions. well, actually same as my old one... Why's the star wand involved anyway? And, why does CCS! Sakura knows about this thing. How did she give the star wand to Mommy Sakura anyway? And, is CCS! Sakura in the same world as Watanuki? Why did Watanuki think that Mommy Sakura and Daddy Syaoran are dead? How did they die or disappear? All these questions are not yet answered!!! If you guys know any of the answers, please tell me!! Why's the star wand involved anyway? Hmmm well CCS! Sakura mentions that it is considered to be important to Mommy Sakura. As for why it is....we still don't know yet. I don't think it's that hard to believe that the star wand may be involved...after all it is the staff/wand of the 2nd most powerful magician to ever exist....in the CLAMP universe I mean XD Why does CCS! Sakura knows about this thing? Assuming that the "thing" you're referring to is the whole changing the future thing - CCS! Sakura is a dreamseer like how Tomoyo hime was. So I'm guessing she was able to find out from a foretelling dream. How did she give the star wand to Mommy Sakura anyway? I think it's through a dream.... Is CCS! Sakura in the same world as Watanuki? I believe it was mentioned a few times in xxxholic that CCS! Sakura is not in the same world as Watanuki/Yuuko. However! It is very possible that Watanuki is from a different world, afterall there is so much of Watanuki's past that we just don't know. If that is the case, then there is a possibility that CCS! Sakura and Watanuki are from the same world... Why did Watanuki think that Mommy Sakura and Daddy Syaoran are dead? How did they die or disappear? It's interesting that you asked that! I mean, Watanuki doesn't remember anything about himself except the fact that his parents are dead...why is that? As for the death of Mommy Sakura and Daddy Syaoran ><...I'm just hoping that it's all a mistake or something hahaha |
Yan-G said: No you didn't get it wrong at all :)! At the moment though, we have no idea how R!Syaoran's father got the magic...I guess we'll just have to wait and see XD!first of all sorry about my english xDD i just have a question: in the battle, how does R!Syaoran father (C!Syaoran recarnation) can use clow's magic??? i mean chapter 219 yuko said that clow himself give it to him, but when and how?????????????? maybe i'm wrong xD or maybe that already have been explained but i still don't get it xD |
| Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* |
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Tsunami said: Did you read the whole manga??Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* She's like the main character....along with C!Syaoran.. |
robbydesu said: Tsunami said: Did you read the whole manga??Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* She's like the main character....along with C!Syaoran.. Yes but she isn't a clone. She is the princess of her country. |
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Tsunami said: robbydesu said: Tsunami said: Did you read the whole manga??Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* She's like the main character....along with C!Syaoran.. Yes but she isn't a clone. She is the princess of her country. Er....it was revealed she was a clone..long time ago, actually. 0-0 All the way back in the Nihon arc. |
| <3 this chapter!! It was so touching! I was crying the whole time ;_; Grown-up Syaoran = hotness! xD |
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Possk said: Yeeeeaap...o___o which was about 45 chapters ago..Tsunami said: robbydesu said: Tsunami said: Did you read the whole manga??Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* She's like the main character....along with C!Syaoran.. Yes but she isn't a clone. She is the princess of her country. Er....it was revealed she was a clone..long time ago, actually. 0-0 All the way back in the Nihon arc. |
robbydesu said: _marshmallow said: Where in the manga shows that Now that I went over that chapter, here's another question/problem that was never answered/solved. Why is the star wand considered to be important towards Mommy Sakura? I can always go back to my previous theory that Mommy Sakura is the grown up version of CCS! Sakura....but it doesn't fit because CCS! Sakura met CCS! Syaoran in a different way than Mommy Sakura and Daddy Syaoran. Plus when I looked closer and compared the two uniforms that CCS! Sakura and younger Mommy Sakura was wearing....they are both completely different. Which definitely disproves my old theory yet again....HMMM ><...any theories guys? That question still bothers me too!! I just want to know what CCS Sakura's role is in all this or if her role was just to give that wand to Mommy Sakura?? :/ Still I agree with you that its just not possible for Mommy Sakura to be the grown up version of CCS Sakura because of how each of them met their Sayorans. |
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| CLAMP divided by zero! God, I take back everything I said last chapter. I'm kind of in love with this series again. |
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MichiNekoChan said: WOW!!! I totally did not remember seeing that! Thanks :DSorry to semi-resurrect this. I'm a bit itchy while waiting for a new chapter to appear. I remember you guys questioning about CCS!Sakura Star Wand and how it fits in... Doesnt Yuuko get it in exchange for something? Perhaps when Reincarnate-C!Sakura knew when her son would have to be sent away they might have used it? I'm not sure if they show the Star Wand in either XXXHolic or Tsubasa. I'm currently relooking through both series to double check. EDIT: Its in Tsubasa Ch 189. They show the Star Wand as a price given by R!Syaorans mom (Reincarnate-C!Sakura I believe) But here's something I still don't quite get. How is the star wand considered to be important to R!Syaoran's mom? I mean, my old theory would've said that she is the older version of CCS! Sakura...but the meetings between CCS! SxS and R!Syaoran's parents are different....hmmm.. |
Possk said: Tsunami said: robbydesu said: Tsunami said: Did you read the whole manga??Who the hell is clone Sakura? I don't even remember a clone of her being introduced to the story :O also WHAT THE ?@#$!@$# My brain has overheat. *system shutting down* She's like the main character....along with C!Syaoran.. Yes but she isn't a clone. She is the princess of her country. Er....it was revealed she was a clone..long time ago, actually. 0-0 All the way back in the Nihon arc. I kinda forgot the story due to the break CLAMP took. I too, took a break :@ |
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| So what we're viewing is basically a time cycle right? The isn't Yuuko supposed to come back too? o_O Fai said: game8910 said: Fai said: The ones in tube are CCS!Syaoran and CCS!Sakura. no.... Yes... R!Syaoran even states that they are similar to his parents but they are not them. Now why would they end up being in that tube? As far as I've understood,the only connection CCS Sakura has with the TRC universe is that she gave her magic wand to the clone mommy sakura in the past. The C! Sakura traded that wand as a price to Yuuko in exchange for her granting the real Syaoran the power to cross dimensions. (right? :?) BTW,it took me days to figure out that the SyaoSaku couple in chap 222 are actually the clones. XD |
| this is a happy ending(Or a happy beginning ) for the clones... i almost cried!! well, i thought R Syaoran's father IS CCS Syaoran (cuz of the Jian sword), but Shocking news, when R Syaoran's is C Syaoran!! hehe what will happen next? |
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| Sakura and Syaoran look great when they're adults xD haha |
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| Lol I am the only one who can't say "I knew it" because I was shocked the clone gave birth to the real one |
| Holy plot twist, Batman! |
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| I got these chills reading to it all..... So everything will start again....so does that mean they were reborn in a different time and dimension... that's why fay could not sense them |
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