lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? |
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Mike_the_Great said: Umm lupadim, I got a slightly more interesting question for you. You must kill either 2 people or 1 person. You know nothing about their past/future ect. If you don't kill one of the options, both die. What do you do? There would never be such situation, but in any case, I don't have the right to decide who will live and who will die, but I would look at this situation in another way: I would have the right to save one life, so I would choose any of the two doesn't matter who, knowing that I saved one life. But if you mean I have to manually kill one of the two, them no, give me some context please so I can make a more accurate choice, maybe I could avoid this. |
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Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. |
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lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that edit: are you religious? If yes I probably won't reply |
Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war |
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lupadim said: The third spectator should have been seeing what I saw therefore they would most likely side with me. If for whatever reason that person didn't see the situation then the person who was originally being strangled or w.e would help me out (I hope).Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. In the end i'd feel more guilty for not helping than if I killed someone who was killing someone else. |
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Mkayyy said: lupadim said: The third spectator should have been seeing what I saw happening therefore they would most likely side with me. If for whatever reason that person didn't see the situation then the person who was originally being strangled or w.e would help me out (I hope).Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. She would help you out and would end up killing the third spectator, which was only trying to do what he call justice. Them you would kill the guy that was strangling the person. So let's call the person you helped as X, the guy that was killing X as Y. You and X are now assassins, because you two killed an human. Isn't that what an assassin does? It kills people, and as you killed one, you are now an assassin. Using your same concept, there would be an fourth spectator watching you and X killing the two guys, this fourth spectator would help the third spectator with killing you and X. In the end all that could be avoided if no one killed no one. |
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lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war |
Monde11 said: lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war So in the end you still think you have the right to kill people that kill? I just want to remember you that killing an assassin will automatically make of you an assassin. |
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lupadim said: Mike_the_Great said: Umm lupadim, I got a slightly more interesting question for you. You must kill either 2 people or 1 person. You know nothing about their past/future ect. If you don't kill one of the options, both die. What do you do? There would never be such situation, but in any case, I don't have the right to decide who will live and who will die, but I would look at this situation in another way: I would have the right to save one life, so I would choose any of the two doesn't matter who, knowing that I saved one life. But if you mean I have to manually kill one of the two, them no, give me some context please so I can make a more accurate choice, maybe I could avoid this. Interesting answer. Theres no real context, i was just using Fate/Zero's Emiya Kiritsugu case where he needed to kill people to save others. |
Mike_the_Great said: lupadim said: Mike_the_Great said: Umm lupadim, I got a slightly more interesting question for you. You must kill either 2 people or 1 person. You know nothing about their past/future ect. If you don't kill one of the options, both die. What do you do? There would never be such situation, but in any case, I don't have the right to decide who will live and who will die, but I would look at this situation in another way: I would have the right to save one life, so I would choose any of the two doesn't matter who, knowing that I saved one life. But if you mean I have to manually kill one of the two, them no, give me some context please so I can make a more accurate choice, maybe I could avoid this. Interesting answer. Theres no real context, i was just using Fate/Zero's Emiya Kiritsugu case where he needed to kill people to save others. Kiritsugu was an crazy serial killer, he fell into madness after seeing hes best friend dying and becomming an vampire. I am not saying random crap, the anime gives psychological traces that confirm this (like the scene where he kills hes boss for nothing) |
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Monde11 said: if life isn't that precious then is the serial killer really committing that big of a crime though? If they can be replaced then certainly so can the people they killed as well no?If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you |
lupadim said: WTF!? Mate read my first post, I said that I'd only kill if it was the only option therefore that means it's not possible to save everyone. Because the 1st person (who is getting strangled) would die at the hands of the second person, only way to stop that is for me to intervene and like I said if killing was the only way to intervene then i'd doit.Mkayyy said: lupadim said: The third spectator should have been seeing what I saw happening therefore they would most likely side with me. If for whatever reason that person didn't see the situation then the person who was originally being strangled or w.e would help me out (I hope).Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. She would help you out and would end up killing the third spectator, which was only trying to do what he call justice. Them you would kill the guy that was strangling the person. So let's call the person you helped as X, the guy that was killing X as Y. You and X are now assassins, because you two killed an human. Isn't that what an assassin does? It kills people, and as you killed one, you are now an assassin. Using your same concept, there would be an fourth spectator watching you and X killing the two guys, this fourth spectator would help the third spectator with killing you and X. In the end all that could be avoided if no one killed no one. Please don't say another fucking person is spectating too because this is just becoming stupid. |
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lupadim said: I didn't say that, stop twisting my words to try and prove you are right, because you're not, I'm probably not but this is what we believe, I know it would make me an assassin in your eyes but if that prevents people from dying, so be it.Monde11 said: lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war So in the end you still think you have the right to kill people that kill? I just want to remember you that killing an assassin will automatically make of you an assassin. |
lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: As much as I'd love my dad to die, I wouldn't feel good killing him. What... He's kind of a huge cunt |
Mkayyy said: lupadim said: WTF!? Mate read my first post, I said that I'd only kill if it was the only option therefore that means it's not possible to save everyone. Because the 1st person (who is getting strangled) would die at the hands of the second person, only way to stop that is for me to intervene and like I said if killing was the only way to intervene then i'd doit.Mkayyy said: lupadim said: The third spectator should have been seeing what I saw happening therefore they would most likely side with me. If for whatever reason that person didn't see the situation then the person who was originally being strangled or w.e would help me out (I hope).Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. She would help you out and would end up killing the third spectator, which was only trying to do what he call justice. Them you would kill the guy that was strangling the person. So let's call the person you helped as X, the guy that was killing X as Y. You and X are now assassins, because you two killed an human. Isn't that what an assassin does? It kills people, and as you killed one, you are now an assassin. Using your same concept, there would be an fourth spectator watching you and X killing the two guys, this fourth spectator would help the third spectator with killing you and X. In the end all that could be avoided if no one killed no one. Please don't say another fucking person is spectating too because this is just becoming stupid. And how do you know that the guy being strangled is not the assassin, and that the guy taht is strangling her is like you, an man that is killing the guy because he is an serial killer? |
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CourtneyHate said: lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: As much as I'd love my dad to die, I wouldn't feel good killing him. What... He's kind of a huge cunt You came from hes dick |
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Monde11 said: lupadim said: I didn't say that, stop twisting my words to try and prove you are right, because you're not, I'm probably not but this is what we believe, I know it would make me an assassin in your eyes but if that prevents people from dying, so be it.Monde11 said: lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war So in the end you still think you have the right to kill people that kill? I just want to remember you that killing an assassin will automatically make of you an assassin. In most cases I think that opinions are opinions but in this case YOU ARE WRONG, USING YOUR CONCEPT THERE WOULD BE NO HUMANS IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE. |
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lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: As much as I'd love my dad to die, I wouldn't feel good killing him. What... He's kind of a huge cunt You came from hes dick Oh I'm sorry I guess he's a wonderful person then. |
CourtneyHate said: lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: lupadim said: CourtneyHate said: As much as I'd love my dad to die, I wouldn't feel good killing him. What... He's kind of a huge cunt You came from hes dick Oh I'm sorry I guess he's a wonderful person then. He is your dad, you owe him your life. |
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lupadim said: I thought you might ask that, my answer is; that's life, I wouldn't know any better... In the end I still think it's better than standing there doing nothing. There was another thread with a video embedded whereby a guy was being strangled in an elevator and random peoples reactions were recorded. Some of the people just walked away and some just watched. When you see that one human isn't willing to help another in that situation it's kind of sad. Mkayyy said: lupadim said: WTF!? Mate read my first post, I said that I'd only kill if it was the only option therefore that means it's not possible to save everyone. Because the 1st person (who is getting strangled) would die at the hands of the second person, only way to stop that is for me to intervene and like I said if killing was the only way to intervene then i'd doit.Mkayyy said: lupadim said: The third spectator should have been seeing what I saw happening therefore they would most likely side with me. If for whatever reason that person didn't see the situation then the person who was originally being strangled or w.e would help me out (I hope).Mkayyy said: lupadim said: I seriously wouldn't do it unless I thought it to be justice. If right in front of me someone was being strangled or killed in whatever manner I would rather help the person but if killing the other person is the only option then I would easily doit. I wouldn't regret it much either.Mkayyy said: Only if necessary. For example saving someone's life. So you will kill someone to let another one live? You can say if you don't get into this, the person you would kill will survive and the person you would save will die. So do you think you have the right to decide who will die and who will survive? And an third spectator would see you strangling the other guy, and he would rather help the person but if killing you was the only option and hey you already know how this phrase ends. She would help you out and would end up killing the third spectator, which was only trying to do what he call justice. Them you would kill the guy that was strangling the person. So let's call the person you helped as X, the guy that was killing X as Y. You and X are now assassins, because you two killed an human. Isn't that what an assassin does? It kills people, and as you killed one, you are now an assassin. Using your same concept, there would be an fourth spectator watching you and X killing the two guys, this fourth spectator would help the third spectator with killing you and X. In the end all that could be avoided if no one killed no one. Please don't say another fucking person is spectating too because this is just becoming stupid. And how do you know that the guy being strangled is not the assassin, and that the guy taht is strangling her is like you, an man that is killing the guy because he is an serial killer? I'll try and find the thread for you since it had a good video in it. |
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lupadim said: What? Didn't you get any of my points at all? Pretty sure I'm being trolled right now.Monde11 said: lupadim said: I didn't say that, stop twisting my words to try and prove you are right, because you're not, I'm probably not but this is what we believe, I know it would make me an assassin in your eyes but if that prevents people from dying, so be it.Monde11 said: lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war So in the end you still think you have the right to kill people that kill? I just want to remember you that killing an assassin will automatically make of you an assassin. In most cases I think that opinions are opinions but in this case YOU ARE WRONG, USING YOUR CONCEPT THERE WOULD BE NO HUMANS IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE. |
NeoAnkara said: No. There is still a god watching. Nonsense. If God's watching, don't make him waste his pop-corn. Instead, make one of the characters of the show die, it's gonna entertain him more I guess. |
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Slyr3do0n said: To clarify I meant roles in society, the fact remains they killed a fellow human and should be ppunished.Monde11 said: if life isn't that precious then is the serial killer really committing that big of a crime though? If they can be replaced then certainly so can the people they killed as well no?If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you |
Monde11 said: Now here's where I don't understand the human desire for punishment. Why should one be punished for doing something wrong? If they are a danger to those around them then they should be removed from society in order to protect others but I don't dare why they need to be punished.Slyr3do0n said: To clarify I meant roles in society, the fact remains they killed a fellow human and should be ppunished.Monde11 said: if life isn't that precious then is the serial killer really committing that big of a crime though? If they can be replaced then certainly so can the people they killed as well no?If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you |
lupadim said: Monde11 said: lupadim said: I didn't say that, stop twisting my words to try and prove you are right, because you're not, I'm probably not but this is what we believe, I know it would make me an assassin in your eyes but if that prevents people from dying, so be it.Monde11 said: lupadim said: There is no wrong in this discussion, I'm out.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If it can be avoided without further losses then sure it could be reported, you said nobody would find out so you wouldn't be in danger, also, serial killer is just an example I gave, the police can't jail someone if they can't catch them. I don't believe life is as precious as you think it is, it has it's value sure, but there will always be another human that can replace you.Monde11 said: lupadim said: If I am contributing to mankind in a positive way then yes, that's also the difference between us, answer me this, would you kill him or let him take even more of those precious lives?Monde11 said: lupadim said: Yeah I do, not saying I have the right to kill another but I know I'd rather let a serial killer die than allow them to keep killing, I'm sure many feel the same way, his life wasn't all that precious was it?Monde11 said: lupadim said: No I don't, but I wouldn't mind ridding the world of some trash if nobody would find out about it.Monde11 said: If the world would be a better place without them sure, I'm no saint and some people don't deserve to live. Do you think you have the right to judge who deserves to live and who doesn't? Do you think you have the right to judge who is trash and who is not? So you think your life is more precious than this serial killer's life, based on hes acts? And that if someone had to die, it would be him and not you due to he killed people? Now let me ask you one thing, if you killed him, what would differ you from him? I would not kill him because I do not have the right to steal hes life just because I judged that he is wrong. He is an serial killer, he kills people, isn't it ironic that I am going to kill him because he kills people? If I did that, someone that thinks the same as me would kill me right after that because I would be an assassin too! But I would not let him steal the precious lives, I would let justice handle this, I would report him to the local cops and they would jail him, simple as that Wrong, there is no way an human can replace another, every human is special and hes death will be always remembered by many, be it in a positive or negative way, that being said you do not have the right to steal this person's right of live, and think with me, if everyone used this same concept no one would be killing no one, right? And if everyone used your concept, the world would be just a civil war So in the end you still think you have the right to kill people that kill? I just want to remember you that killing an assassin will automatically make of you an assassin. In most cases I think that opinions are opinions but in this case YOU ARE WRONG, USING YOUR CONCEPT THERE WOULD BE NO HUMANS IN THIS WORLD ANYMORE. I think this line of questioning falls under a very popular Scruple, it may seem a tad bit arrogant to proclaim one side to be wrong given that it's a problem that has had many people scratching their head for quite some time. It's all well and good to say you'd seek out alternatives but what good would it be if time and time again you fail to find one? what if there was no alternative? Most of us can agree that murder itself is an abhorrent act but some may find it necessary at some point. Out of curiosity where would you find it necessary, how many deaths by the same hand after how many failed attempts at seeking an alternative solution would you finally bend to death being the only viable solution? to put it another way how many lives does your ideals weigh? |
| I guess, if I really needed to sometime. Not that I can think of anyone I'd bother killing. Killing for the sake of killing just seems pointless unless it's at least a even match against a skilled opponent, otherwise you get no bragging rights. |
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| If it's Assad, Amadenijhad, or any of those type of folks who are a threat to the world, sure, I'd be doing the government a big favor. If not then no. |
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| Why kill them? What did they ever do to me? |
| Somewhere, there is an unplugged toaster sitting on a Coleman stove. Does it feel lonely? |
| Basically, I take a life with no consequences. Hell yes. Bonus points if this is repeatable. Because let's be frank here, who wouldn't? Come on guys, stop denying it and look deep within your hearts. You know the temptation is there and is calling you. |
Nonyflah said: Here is something you can't understand, how I can just kill a man.Why kill them? What did they ever do to me? |
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Sweet_Love said: Because let's be frank here, who wouldn't? Come on guys, stop denying it and look deep within your hearts. You know the temptation is there and is calling you. I can't hear anything... And no i probably wouldn't kill, but maybe just maim them. |
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| Yes, if they did something horrible to my family, committed a genocide, etc. |
| I'd have no problem taking the life of a shitbag. I'd have to do it from a distance, though. Blood makes me sick. |
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elevenletters said: TowardsTheStars said: Yes, if they did something horrible to my family, committed a genocide, etc. ...or just made stupid threads. We'd have to do it quickly and quietly. |
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| I'm sure no one deserves to die. But that doesn't really reflect on humanity nowadays. So, here is my answer: Yes, but it depends on who. What the person has done. Or even, if they want to. But then again, i would feel a bad feeling in my guts, even if i really hated or have a good reason even if they wanted to die themselves, and purposely made me kill them, i would still feel some guilt. I just killed a person. Lol, now i am imagining myself as a main anime character in something like death note/One piece, or another anime where there are mass murders, which is a lot of animes; I never will ever understand, why they can stand there with a straight face being like "I WANT FOOD NOW THAT I KILLED SOMEBODY. AND I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING" And yes, i know CAPS ARE ANNOYING. But srsly. Even if they did kill ur nakama, still don't get how u don't feel guilty. |
| I would kill someone once just to say I've done it. I don't care who it is. |
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| Maybe.. It depends.. |
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| Sure, Why not. |
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| Yes, I guess I would. I've always wondered how would it feel. Besides, I don't see anything precious about human's life. |
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| Maybe if Hitler were alive now, yeah I'd kill him. If there's someone as evil as he is, I'd kill them without remorse. Once when I was in a cab and the cabbie's a complete asshole, I thought he'd be better off dead. If this power's real at that time, who knows what I might have done. Used that one-time power to kill a mean cabbie. |
lupadim said: If you could, one time, kill anyone you wish without being found by the police and all, would you? Explaining better: You would simply kill this person and thats all, no one would find out. She will simply die, like if her name was written in an death note. I would not kill anyone because an human's life is too precious to be thrown away like garbage. Why is it a she o_O ? |
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