| not that i'm blameless in this you know? like i'm guilty of frequently falling in to thinking that closely resembles your own but maybe stop smoking so much weed and watching and doing the same things day in and day out while despairing at how stale it all feels and like go to a fucking show or meet up with a date or something -which you can absolutely still do in your 30s with your full time job- and you'll discover pretty fast this prison is of your own making |
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@foxes_are_neet
i do live in the real world
i'm 32 years old interacting with people across genders - okay, mostly queer women and trans folks, but plenty of cis men - who are also coming in to their 30s, as well as many who are in their 40s and 50s
life winnows down a bit as you get older
it doesn't winnow that much, okay?
unless you just give up on it
and like i mentioned in this thread, that's not age dependent
i felt the way you feel when i was fucking 12
have you considered that throwing your hands up and saying fulfillment is out of your reach and out of your control
is itself an escapist fantasy?
i do live in the real world
i'm 32 years old interacting with people across genders - okay, mostly queer women and trans folks, but plenty of cis men - who are also coming in to their 30s, as well as many who are in their 40s and 50s
life winnows down a bit as you get older
it doesn't winnow that much, okay?
unless you just give up on it
and like i mentioned in this thread, that's not age dependent
i felt the way you feel when i was fucking 12
have you considered that throwing your hands up and saying fulfillment is out of your reach and out of your control
is itself an escapist fantasy?
| @anen0me was writing a reply until you rewrote your post to add "cis," ugh... sorry but homey don't play dat  we're done here |
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@foxes_are_neet
i do live in the real world
i'm 32 years old interacting with people across genders - okay, mostly queer women and trans folks, but plenty of cis men - who are also coming in to their 30s, as well as many who are in their 40s and 50s
life winnows down a bit as you get older
it doesn't winnow that much, okay?
unless you just give up on it
and like i mentioned in this thread, that's not age dependent
i felt the way you feel when i was fucking 12
have you considered that throwing your hands up and saying fulfillment is out of your reach and out of your control
is itself an escapist fantasy?
i do live in the real world
i'm 32 years old interacting with people across genders - okay, mostly queer women and trans folks, but plenty of cis men - who are also coming in to their 30s, as well as many who are in their 40s and 50s
life winnows down a bit as you get older
it doesn't winnow that much, okay?
unless you just give up on it
and like i mentioned in this thread, that's not age dependent
i felt the way you feel when i was fucking 12
have you considered that throwing your hands up and saying fulfillment is out of your reach and out of your control
is itself an escapist fantasy?
| @anen0me Yup, blaming everything but yourself if a pretty common tactic to avoid responsibility for your own happiness. |
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MissHeed said:
@JaniSIr People who think twenties is their entire life. It's the years you should develop yourself and get established more.
@JaniSIr People who think twenties is their entire life. It's the years you should develop yourself and get established more.
It's not everything, but it's when you were supposed to start a family, and more and more people are missing that.
| @JaniSIr Is it? Most friends and associates I have/had didn't start having kids until early 30s. Co-worker who on leave right having her first child at 35. |
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@JaniSIr Is it? Most friends and associates I have/had didn't start having kids until early 30s. Co-worker who on leave right having her first child at 35.
| @MissHeed That's only normal by the standards of an abnormal era. Marriage and kids used to happen earlier, and our biology didn't change alongside technology and society. 35 is almost twice the general age of consent. At her age she could almost have had a child that can vote. That wouldn't have been particularly outrageous just a few generations ago, but now it feels wrong to type it. |
*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧May the winds of change transform you entirely.*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ |
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@MissHeed That's only normal by the standards of an abnormal era.
Marriage and kids used to happen earlier, and our biology didn't change alongside technology and society.
35 is almost twice the general age of consent. At her age she could almost have had a child that can vote.
That wouldn't have been particularly outrageous just a few generations ago, but now it feels wrong to type it.
Marriage and kids used to happen earlier, and our biology didn't change alongside technology and society.
35 is almost twice the general age of consent. At her age she could almost have had a child that can vote.
That wouldn't have been particularly outrageous just a few generations ago, but now it feels wrong to type it.
| @JaniSIr I'd have to agree with you here. Your partner/marriage and children should be the things that motivate you to pursue career success or personal growth, not something that requires all the stars in your life to be perfectly aligned in order to happen. However, it's not something that we can do much about. The most rational approach is try to adapt to the social norms of the contemporary era rather than trying to bring the past back as that is likely not going to happen unless there's a major catastrophe that reshapes society as a whole, but that would obviously do more harm than good. Having kids at 35 may not be ideal or optimal, but it's still perfectly okay for those who couldn't afford to be parents earlier. |
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@MissHeed That's only normal by the standards of an abnormal era.
Marriage and kids used to happen earlier, and our biology didn't change alongside technology and society.
35 is almost twice the general age of consent. At her age she could almost have had a child that can vote.
That wouldn't have been particularly outrageous just a few generations ago, but now it feels wrong to type it.
Marriage and kids used to happen earlier, and our biology didn't change alongside technology and society.
35 is almost twice the general age of consent. At her age she could almost have had a child that can vote.
That wouldn't have been particularly outrageous just a few generations ago, but now it feels wrong to type it.
| @JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born. |
MissHeedJan 5, 7:58 PM
| ^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38? her first was at 36 it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal you can also adopt at any age... |
| Yeah, I can totally relate. My favorite hobby, language learning, becomes absolutely useless with the AI development. Now I'm jobless👀. |
| ❤️🔥Fairy Tail❤️🔥 |
MissHeed said: @JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born. anen0me said: ^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38? her first was at 36 it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal Well, better late than never, but then if you have kids at 40, and your kids also follow your example, you might never even see your grandkids, and that's kind of bleak. anen0me said: you can also adopt at any age... I don't think I could do that. |
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MissHeed said:
@JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born.
@JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born.
anen0me said:
^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38?
her first was at 36
it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal
^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38?
her first was at 36
it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal
Well, better late than never, but then if you have kids at 40, and your kids also follow your example, you might never even see your grandkids, and that's kind of bleak.
anen0me said:
you can also adopt at any age...
you can also adopt at any age...
I don't think I could do that.
| @JaniSIr Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky. My great grandmother and my grandfather are still alive, I'll be 30 this year. She has Great great grandkids while still alive. He has great grandkids while alive. Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed Gtg I'll discuss more later work. |
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MissHeed said:
@JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born.
@JaniSIr The point is you aren't too old to start a family. Unless you're in the late 40s or above. I became a mom at 18 but I was definitely too young. My mom was around mid-,late 30s when was born. 41 when my little sister was born.
anen0me said:
^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38?
her first was at 36
it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal
^ my sister's having her second at, what, 38?
her first was at 36
it's potentially riskier to have children in your late 30s, but absolutely not abnormal
Well, better late than never, but then if you have kids at 40, and your kids also follow your example, you might never even see your grandkids, and that's kind of bleak.
anen0me said:
you can also adopt at any age...
you can also adopt at any age...
I don't think I could do that.
| @JaniSIr if my sister's kids follow her example, they'll be a family of doctors |
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@JaniSIr
Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky.
My great grandmother and my grandfather are still alive, I'll be 30 this year. She has Great great grandkids while still alive. He has great grandkids while alive.
Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed
Gtg I'll discuss more later work.
Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky.
My great grandmother and my grandfather are still alive, I'll be 30 this year. She has Great great grandkids while still alive. He has great grandkids while alive.
Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed
Gtg I'll discuss more later work.
| @MissHeed MissHeed said: Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky. Risk's fine, the issue is how do I make progress... MissHeed said: Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed. Do I? Probably just a sampling bias, since there is no reason to complain about something that's going well. |
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| @Ethercruiser Which part of the comment are you talking about? |
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@MissHeed
Risk's fine, the issue is how do I make progress...
Do I? Probably just a sampling bias, since there is no reason to complain about something that's going well.
MissHeed said:
Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky.
Yup if you want kids it's worth the risk. Lots of things are risky.
Risk's fine, the issue is how do I make progress...
MissHeed said:
Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed.
Secondly weird thing to worry about. You worry too much I noticed.
Do I? Probably just a sampling bias, since there is no reason to complain about something that's going well.
| @JaniSIr You're trying to get into a relationship? I hate say this but I won't be much help. I only been 3 1 real relationship. |
| Interests could not become obsolete in the true sense of the word. I cant think of a time period my life would be any better. I dont need to be here. SaibaaNeko said: This isn't true. What this guy is describing is anhedonia, which is a symptom of depression. Now what you are likely to experience is that you lose interest in certain things because it gets overplayed/tiring and you desire for more, in which case you either expand upon them yourself or develop new interests. There is a worse thing called emotional blunting. Anhedonia only is not feeling the highs, emotional blunting the lows are off too. CC said: Suppose I'll just have to keep absorbing the life essence of young men to maintain my longevity. Didnt work too well for Elizabeth Bathory …unless you accidentally revealed you are a succubus |
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@JaniSIr You're trying to get into a relationship? I hate say this but I won't be much help. I only been 3 1 real relationship.
| @MissHeed Yeah, that'd be the goal. Unfortunately I'm in a pickle because if I don't go extremely far out of my daily routine I will not meet anyone. At least I did go on dates before. |
*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧May the winds of change transform you entirely.*:･ﾟ✧*:･ﾟ✧ |
| Understandable. I was born in 1995 and am pretty happy with how I grew up. If I could have chosen, it probably would have been 1988 or 1989. |
eternalworm2008 said: If i was my current age in like 2016 pretty much all of my current interests would be around. but now AI is eventually going to make them all obsolete. I feel that i was born too late and i came around the end. The world is in such a depressive state, its so easy to be negative. why bother. I 100% sympathize and feel very bad for you and your generation. I see a similar issues with my niece... she's only 10, but her kindergarten experience was pretty much: "you can't go to your friends' house, you can't go outside, stand six feet apart, the outside world is off limits" and that was such a fucking sham and a tragedy. Things haven't gotten much better since 2020, and yeah the AI thing is awful. Younger people are being denied even the possibility of dreams like being an artist or a novelist or a designer... none of it is 'necessary' anymore because AI gonna do it. It's a tragedy. I was born at the end of the 1970s, and grew up in a great time. It had its problems, but since September 2001 everything's been downhill. I hope a lot of older people like me try to support the younger as best we can.... you all deserve better |
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@JaniSIr
Sorry this part
Your message must contain 30 characters excluding BBCode, quotes, images, and spaces. There.
Sorry this part
Yeah no, you are just cynical.
.Your message must contain 30 characters excluding BBCode, quotes, images, and spaces. There.
| @Ethercruiser It's your moral duty to try to better yourself. If you just give up, you'll definitely not be happy. |
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| probs bcause you're on twitter that u think that the world is in such a depressive state (don't use twitter) |
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probs bcause you're on twitter that u think that the world is in such a depressive state
(don't use twitter)
(don't use twitter)
| @vvafels why would anyone use Twitter? btw I don't even have an account on that site (even if I did, I am unable to log into it right now). |
| I have approximately 1 terabyte of anime on my computer. |
| I was born in 1996. It feels that being born in different generations will always have pros and cons (and pretty much anything in life is a trade-off), and the grass is always greener on the other side. I would have loved to be born after the year 2000. Feels like society is much more progressive with ability to be oneself more, not having pressure of starting family or having a partner, not seeing university education as necessary and that becoming a wage slave is no longer worth it if you have a reasonable welfare in your country, and it's much harder to even obtain employment. Why bother having a job anymore... When I was growing up it felt like you had to go down that path and no one around me seemed to do something else with their life. I think AI will just make mediocre stuff more mediocre, and there will be a real need for counterculture to emerge more prominently. The mainstream culture can't get any worse, let it sink - I'd love to fast-forward a bit. To live well, I think we all need to live for ourselves - the external world should not matter as much. You can only worry about things in your control and hang out with the folk that you like, and do things you like, no need to participate in the mainstream society. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And growing up with LLMs is actually cool - the amount of boilerplate code, emails, letters, essays etc. I have written in my life, could have done this in at least 20% less time with LLMs help. People who just outsource thinking to LLMs and don't understand what they are doing will always lose - I can't see how LLMs can be used as anything else than productivity boost. In many ways it feels the young generations appear freer and more understanding of the world, and their situation than my generation. I always enjoy hanging out with zoomers a lot more than any other generation before, and I'm just jealous of the kids now tbh... They are so free, cool and bright. Money is tighter and jobs impossible to get for young people nowadays, but that is likely a positive thing if you are going to spend more time doing things that are not just buying random shit you don't need, and focus on stuff you actually wanna do with yourself - like create art. I wish I had less money and never learned to spend it, and never felt trapped in a job. |
szernJan 7, 3:32 PM
| I was just thinking of 2006 and the neighborhood kids I met who were born 1995-96. It feels weird to know you people are in your 30s now, and you're all talking like disgruntled old men. Time went fast as hell. |
| Damn is everyone on this forum depressed? I mean I'm in my 20's and get really pessimistic about the future too but I have IRL friends I hang out with and enjoy spending time with + I have hobbies. I'm happy to see from other replies that medication is helping you OP! Maybe what you need to do is find something you enjoy to occupy some of your time. AI produces slop but there are still artists that care about their craft and in turn theres still people that care about real art. |
42-42-564, whenever you wanna knock in Death’s door.  |
| Idk why AI would make your interest "obsolete", I also don't know what your interests are; maybe it will make them more niche, but that doesn't mean they will seize to exist, you'll just have to look harder. As you said yourself, it's easy to be pessimistic about the future, and it's also easy to long for an age that no longer exists, it's just natural to feel that way; I felt like that few years ago, eventually I realized that I should stop worrying that much about things I can't control and just wait and see what happens. |
| From Sapiens To Ludens |
| This is a trope I know, certainly. I seem to recall reading that Lovecraft wanted to have lived decades before his time. I feel uniquely placed to understand the present, though; so I am rather happy to live in the present time. |
| ye have seen his natal star |
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