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Jul 8, 5:21 AM
#51
So it can be justified beating their ass later |
Jul 8, 5:44 AM
#52
Cielord said: Because fanservice is great, so it is necessary, lol. fanservice destroys almost any shōnen, especially if it’s fanservice of a literal minor |
Jul 8, 7:12 AM
#53
Jul 8, 7:58 AM
#54
You’re right OP, it’s getting old |
Jul 8, 9:56 AM
#55
bastek66 said: This isn't facebook or bluesky you can normally write words like sexually abused, rape, murder etc. @yesiexistbro 16 is legal in majority of civilized world and pedos prefer younger and flatter. in that case, I'll rephrase my rant. there are too many perverts here that shamelessly confess their favourite part of the anime: fanservice. sure, dandadan is an incredibly sexual anime, but this show is not a hentai. the dirty jokes and scenes in this anime is only for comedic effect, yet they so many people say "I'd fuck Momo". I won't lie, I would too, but it's not that admirable, yet these guys use it as an argument against OP, which isn't appropriate as OP is trying to protest the amount of sexual assault to her in this anime, and it's not helping at all but instead is proving the point of the OP, there's too many perverted scenes that it's attracted people like them. I'm not saying OP is right, but I'm just saying, it's giving us a bad image. oh and also 16 is insanely close to being a minor. it really isn't admirable the fact that people love her sexualisation. |
Jul 8, 10:15 AM
#56
I don't think these scenes are supposed to be fanservice at all, Dandadan is a horror/comedy and I think these uncomfortable SA scenes are kind of horrifying for the audience (especially female viewers). These scenes are part of the horror, and are a part of reality for women, and I think that's why they are in dandadan. There are many kinds of horror and this is one of them. Dandadan doesn't really sexualise the characters, even when the two female characters were naked in the water school part of the first season, Okarun was also naked. The characters, female or male, are treated pretty evenly and fairly through out the anime and the manga. |
Jul 8, 10:21 AM
#57
Jakkun said: Did you forget that okarun almost lost his bananas multiple times already? In fact, he already lost his balls. One of them as of now. It's not just momo that got assaulted. There are numerous dirty jokes thrown in the series. The theme of dandadan is clearly centered on sex and male violence. Don't believe me? Go back to eps 1 and we immediately open the scene with momo fighting with her ex boyfriend. Why did they fight? Because she refused to have sex with him. Need more proof? Turbo granny came to existence as a form of grudge for young girls who died in the tunnel she resides. Possibly because the girls were assaulted, turbo granny snatch away the male organs of those who entered the tunnel. It is her way of exacting revenge on the world that wronged the dead girls. Acrobatic silky was a sex worker and a single mother. She is a loving mother but pushed herself too hard and unable to pay for her debts. To make matters worse, she owed them to the yakuza. And she died miserably without ever seeing her daughter grow up. Momo getting assaulted is a problem? Well there... the signs were already scattered here and there. And it's not like it's done for pleasure. You either skip it, and move on. Or... think things through and consider it from another perspective. The world isn't kind and unreasonable to women. But momo, acro silky, turbo granny, all of them are fighting against the unreasonable world. Maybe they can just decide not to include it. But perhaps somewhere within you, you are also feigning ignorance? It's not like it came out of nowhere. You should've known what you're getting into. amazingly said, 100% agree, it's so frustrating seeing people say these scenes are fanservice when it's so clearly not |
Jul 8, 10:39 AM
#58
Reply to WalterBlack59
@WalterBlack59 This meme, lmao .................. |
Jul 8, 11:15 AM
#59
While there has been 2 scenes of this, I will say that it's the last that I've seen. The story kind of goes away from that stuff. At least to the point that im at, which is around chapter 110. |
Jul 8, 11:19 AM
#60
Jakkun said: Did you forget that okarun almost lost his bananas multiple times already? In fact, he already lost his balls. One of them as of now. It's not just momo that got assaulted. There are numerous dirty jokes thrown in the series. The theme of dandadan is clearly centered on sex and male violence. Don't believe me? Go back to eps 1 and we immediately open the scene with momo fighting with her ex boyfriend. Why did they fight? Because she refused to have sex with him. Need more proof? Turbo granny came to existence as a form of grudge for young girls who died in the tunnel she resides. Possibly because the girls were assaulted, turbo granny snatch away the male organs of those who entered the tunnel. It is her way of exacting revenge on the world that wronged the dead girls. Acrobatic silky was a sex worker and a single mother. She is a loving mother but pushed herself too hard and unable to pay for her debts. To make matters worse, she owed them to the yakuza. And she died miserably without ever seeing her daughter grow up. Momo getting assaulted is a problem? Well there... the signs were already scattered here and there. And it's not like it's done for pleasure. You either skip it, and move on. Or... think things through and consider it from another perspective. The world isn't kind and unreasonable to women. But momo, acro silky, turbo granny, all of them are fighting against the unreasonable world. Maybe they can just decide not to include it. But perhaps somewhere within you, you are also feigning ignorance? It's not like it came out of nowhere. You should've known what you're getting into. The only thing I'd argue is saying the theme is based on sex and male violence. The theme is based on Aliens, Ghost and character connection. The violence and sex is more of a effect of those things. Other wise I agree with your point, haha |
Jul 8, 12:14 PM
#61
Reply to WalterBlack59
@WalterBlack59 Fictional character. |
Jul 8, 12:38 PM
#62
Reply to WalterBlack59
@WalterBlack59 Did Dragon Ballsack fanbase forgot that their favourite series had plenty of scenes like Bulma's pantyshots and her lifting skirt and showing bare ass (and cooch)? |
Jul 8, 12:39 PM
#63
It’s a commentary and a subversion of the genre. Girls in anime get sexualized constantly, and are subjected to sexual harassment on the regular. The difference here is that Momo is empowered, and encouraged by the narrative, to fight back. I don’t think the purpose is to turn people on. The purpose is to make you uncomfortable by making you think about all the real men who think it’s okay to take advantage of teenage girls. |
Jul 8, 3:09 PM
#64
evil is not necessary. it happens. |
Jul 8, 4:19 PM
#65
Jakkun said: Did you forget that okarun almost lost his bananas multiple times already? In fact, he already lost his balls. One of them as of now. It's not just momo that got assaulted. There are numerous dirty jokes thrown in the series. The theme of dandadan is clearly centered on sex and male violence. Don't believe me? Go back to eps 1 and we immediately open the scene with momo fighting with her ex boyfriend. Why did they fight? Because she refused to have sex with him. Need more proof? Turbo granny came to existence as a form of grudge for young girls who died in the tunnel she resides. Possibly because the girls were assaulted, turbo granny snatch away the male organs of those who entered the tunnel. It is her way of exacting revenge on the world that wronged the dead girls. Acrobatic silky was a sex worker and a single mother. She is a loving mother but pushed herself too hard and unable to pay for her debts. To make matters worse, she owed them to the yakuza. And she died miserably without ever seeing her daughter grow up. Momo getting assaulted is a problem? Well there... the signs were already scattered here and there. And it's not like it's done for pleasure. You either skip it, and move on. Or... think things through and consider it from another perspective. The world isn't kind and unreasonable to women. But momo, acro silky, turbo granny, all of them are fighting against the unreasonable world. Maybe they can just decide not to include it. But perhaps somewhere within you, you are also feigning ignorance? It's not like it came out of nowhere. You should've known what you're getting into. Perfectly articulated and shows how these kinds of criticisms people have of this anime in particular is coming from either watching from clips or just ignoring plain narrative. |
Jul 8, 4:32 PM
#66
I get that women's trauma is a running theme in the series (outside of just the 'implied almost rape' scenes like acrobatic silky's backstory, the tunnel turbo granny resided in or even just aira in general but its not that expanded upon) but certain things about it still sometimes rub me the wrong way like it being used as a cliffhanger. Its still miles better than a lot of other stuff since its not supposed to be played for laughs and is genuinely gut wrenchingly uncomfortable idk but sometimes it feels a little too drawn out for the payoff. I think theres something to be said about how the show handles the theme (id rather be patient and wait till its more expanded upon to make a judgement, sensitive topics can be pretty hard to write) but i do think it has a justified purpose in the story |
Jul 8, 7:06 PM
#67
It's overused, but I don't mind; it's this anime's shtick and I can live with it. This happened in the 1st episode of S1, so I already knew this anime was going to have more of it later on, my mind is already prepared for it. So yeah, it's overused, but I'm not complaining either. |
Jul 8, 7:37 PM
#68
Reply to Codes_1
SweatyFingers said:
Why does Momo keep getting SA'd? I feel like that's a pretty unnecessary part that can be left out without changing the story or plot whatsoever. She's only 16 after all
Why does Momo keep getting SA'd? I feel like that's a pretty unnecessary part that can be left out without changing the story or plot whatsoever. She's only 16 after all
well anime does that often, and I feel like dandadan is more tame in that aspect compared to lots of other shows. but yeah it's a bit uncomfortable sometimes.
@Codes_1 The whole series starts with a young boy getting his testicles stolen by an old woman, I feel like with a start like that you should be able to expect it to have many crude jokes/gags. Basically the point of the series. It is satirizing that trope I think, to a degree. Also it's not like it's *only* happening to Momo. There are a lot of dick and ball jokes Okarun is the butt of, as well. If you are uncomfortable with it, it may be better to watch a different series. It is clearly going to be a running gag. |
Jul 8, 8:54 PM
#69
most people defending it miss the actual point of it being abused as a crutch when the writer just isn't that skilled. most people aren't against portrayal of SA in media but dandadan is one of the most obvious cases of it being thrown in for shock value |
Jul 8, 9:46 PM
#70
It actually works well if you viewed it as in horror perspective. Other authors won't dared use this in their story unlike Yukinobu. Tourist A: "I don't like it I hate it, it is creepy." That was the point no? It was supposed to made you felt like this, making you feel fear and unsettling is the true purpose. Yukinobu utilized these kind of horror elements. Modern horror anime these days weren't scary, mostly it even felt nothing, the main reason is probably it was animated so it doesn't felt real. But when using this method, it can bring such strong emotions in the viewers and also in the characters. Emotions more than just fear, but with anger and disgust as well. I wouldn't say Yukinobu is being innovative and creative for this, at least he brought something different to the table and it fits well in the theme of his story. |
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Jul 8, 11:59 PM
#71
"but what about the guy that had his balls taken magically by a ghost" yeah exactly... you proved the point. this rape stuff is very overused in this show. she almost got raped by an ugly bastard three times in the span of 13 episodes. that isn't normal. at this point it's a fetish thing for the author. |
zach/rascal/dcm walk beside me until you feel nothing as well |
Jul 9, 12:01 AM
#72
Reply to Sports_Friday
most people defending it miss the actual point of it being abused as a crutch when the writer just isn't that skilled. most people aren't against portrayal of SA in media but dandadan is one of the most obvious cases of it being thrown in for shock value
@Sports_Friday clearly |
zach/rascal/dcm walk beside me until you feel nothing as well |
Jul 9, 12:04 AM
#73
1: I want to see Momo beat up pedos 2: Let villains do villain stuff |
Go read Berserk and One Piece they're the best thing ever |
Jul 9, 12:23 AM
#74
kind of my mentality too |
Jul 9, 12:25 AM
#75
dicecultmafia said: "but what about the guy that had his balls taken magically by a ghost" yeah exactly... you proved the point. this rape stuff is very overused in this show. she almost got raped by an ugly bastard three times in the span of 13 episodes. that isn't normal. at this point it's a fetish thing for the author. then stop watching it. the show is all about SA, it's the comedic purpose of the show. if you want to think it's because of the author's fetish and don't like it, then leave. |
Jul 9, 12:39 AM
#76
Reply to yesiexistbro
dicecultmafia said:
"but what about the guy that had his balls taken magically by a ghost" yeah exactly... you proved the point. this rape stuff is very overused in this show.
she almost got raped by an ugly bastard three times in the span of 13 episodes.
that isn't normal. at this point it's a fetish thing for the author.
"but what about the guy that had his balls taken magically by a ghost" yeah exactly... you proved the point. this rape stuff is very overused in this show.
she almost got raped by an ugly bastard three times in the span of 13 episodes.
that isn't normal. at this point it's a fetish thing for the author.
then stop watching it. the show is all about SA, it's the comedic purpose of the show. if you want to think it's because of the author's fetish and don't like it, then leave.
@yesiexistbro im not watching it |
zach/rascal/dcm walk beside me until you feel nothing as well |
Jul 9, 1:10 AM
#77
then what's the point? why are you complaining if you're not watching it anyways? why are you even in this conversation? just give it a bad rating and move on. why argue when you're not even interested in the anime? the people arguing are fans of the anime that either want to restrict the SA in the anime or just keep it as it is. |
Jul 9, 1:32 AM
#78
Reply to yesiexistbro
then what's the point? why are you complaining if you're not watching it anyways? why are you even in this conversation? just give it a bad rating and move on. why argue when you're not even interested in the anime? the people arguing are fans of the anime that either want to restrict the SA in the anime or just keep it as it is.
@yesiexistbro me like complaining |
zach/rascal/dcm walk beside me until you feel nothing as well |
Jul 9, 3:48 AM
#79
Jul 9, 3:52 AM
#80
Reply to RobertBobert
People weren't put off by the guy's balls being stolen or the overly horny granny needing to wash her mouth out with soap, but the creepy men sexually harassing scene immediately made them furious. Okay.
@RobertBobert at this point i come to expect double standards and hypocrisy from those guys. Not even worth being called a fan because its not discussion they search but to ostracize. |
Jul 9, 4:04 AM
#81
Reply to Otakupervert890
@RobertBobert at this point i come to expect double standards and hypocrisy from those guys. Not even worth being called a fan because its not discussion they search but to ostracize.
@Otakupervert890 People are so obsessed with age these days that the pedo-hysteria of the 00s is starting to look like a joke. |
Jul 9, 5:24 AM
#82
SweatyFingers said: Why does Momo keep getting SA'd? I feel like that's a pretty unnecessary part that can be left out without changing the story or plot whatsoever. She's only 16 after all How will we see her iconic kick if this doesn’t happen ? |
Jul 9, 6:52 AM
#83
... he's not taking it seriously is he? |
Jul 9, 11:23 AM
#84
Reply to RobertBobert
People weren't put off by the guy's balls being stolen or the overly horny granny needing to wash her mouth out with soap, but the creepy men sexually harassing scene immediately made them furious. Okay.
@RobertBobert wym i was very put off by that its one of the reasons ive rated the show very low. and tbh i feel like people use meme reasons as an excuse to not see it as weird as it is. this kinda thing is ALMOST funny at a conceptual level but when it's part of an actual story... nah. it's just not cool |
zach/rascal/dcm walk beside me until you feel nothing as well |
Jul 9, 2:10 PM
#85
Stop watching Anime then. We don't need people who care about human rights of fictional characters and ask for censorship. Tourists like you are enemy of Anime fans. Edit: you have Aqua as favourite character. Dude has a crush on his mom pre-reincarnation as an adult and then as his son post-reincarnation and even his own sister has a crush on him. It seems no issue for you there. Bait thread. |
ToumaTachibanaJul 9, 2:20 PM
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Jul 9, 2:27 PM
#86
Reply to ToumaTachibana
Stop watching Anime then. We don't need people who care about human rights of fictional characters and ask for censorship. Tourists like you are enemy of Anime fans.
Edit: you have Aqua as favourite character. Dude has a crush on his mom pre-reincarnation as an adult and then as his son post-reincarnation and even his own sister has a crush on him. It seems no issue for you there. Bait thread.
Edit: you have Aqua as favourite character. Dude has a crush on his mom pre-reincarnation as an adult and then as his son post-reincarnation and even his own sister has a crush on him. It seems no issue for you there. Bait thread.
@ToumaTachibana Dummy learn what is a spoiler tag |
Jul 9, 2:31 PM
#87
Reply to Tyrecty
@ToumaTachibana Dummy learn what is a spoiler tag
@Tyrecty Learn what a synopsis is before replying, its literally in the first episode, so not a spoiler. |
ToumaTachibanaJul 9, 2:46 PM
BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Jul 9, 3:09 PM
#88
Reply to ToumaTachibana
@Tyrecty Learn what a synopsis is before replying, its literally in the first episode, so not a spoiler.
@ToumaTachibana ah, I see a synopsis is what you need to learn. The post-reincarnation stuff(or even reincarnation) is no where mentioned in the synopsis--it was a first episode twist, was it not? And yeah, I apologize coz I thought you were giving manga ending spoilers so I never read it completely. I guess the first ep reincarnation stuff is no spoiler at this point, but the synopsis part you talked about is complete bullshit tho |
Jul 9, 3:16 PM
#89
Reply to Tyrecty
@ToumaTachibana ah, I see a synopsis is what you need to learn. The post-reincarnation stuff(or even reincarnation) is no where mentioned in the synopsis--it was a first episode twist, was it not?
And yeah, I apologize coz I thought you were giving manga ending spoilers so I never read it completely. I guess the first ep reincarnation stuff is no spoiler at this point, but the synopsis part you talked about is complete bullshit tho
And yeah, I apologize coz I thought you were giving manga ending spoilers so I never read it completely. I guess the first ep reincarnation stuff is no spoiler at this point, but the synopsis part you talked about is complete bullshit tho
@Tyrecty I did not know what part you were talking you assumed i spoiled, that's why i mentioned the synopsis at first. The reincarnation is even tagged in 'themes' so its not a spoiler. And its not even the first ep twist lol. |
BANZAI NIPPON. Nippon is the Land of freedom. Nippon is the Land of Peace. Nippon is the Land of Justice and Prosperity. In Nippon, we trust. We love Nippon, we love Anime. Anime love us, Nippon love us. 日本 |
Jul 9, 5:35 PM
#90
Reply to ExpandCheese
@Codes_1 The whole series starts with a young boy getting his testicles stolen by an old woman, I feel like with a start like that you should be able to expect it to have many crude jokes/gags. Basically the point of the series. It is satirizing that trope I think, to a degree. Also it's not like it's *only* happening to Momo. There are a lot of dick and ball jokes Okarun is the butt of, as well.
If you are uncomfortable with it, it may be better to watch a different series. It is clearly going to be a running gag.
If you are uncomfortable with it, it may be better to watch a different series. It is clearly going to be a running gag.
@ExpandCheese jokes about okarun are pretty different to momo getting groped |
Jul 9, 5:39 PM
#91
in what world does having your genitals stolen equate to being sexually assaulted what are you guys smoking momo being groped and almost raped multiple times is not necessary |
Jul 9, 9:13 PM
#92
Reply to toxicosplay
100% ,cause the author thinks the show will be mostly watched by young/teen boys
toxicosplay said: 100% ,cause the author thinks the show will be mostly watched by young/teen boys its sorta disturbing how producers think/know that the way to appeal to that audience is with rape |
Jul 9, 11:04 PM
#93
I think there's some nuance to be had here. Anybody bashing the show on twitter or dropping the show for this is probably overreacting and need more media literacy to understand that this mostly wasn't done with pedophilic intentions. At the same time, anybody who brushes off criticism of this as "tourists being snowflakes" might as well as start making blood sacrifices to their nihongo east Asian cultural values gods. There are multiple aspects of this discussion. First of all, is the reason for Momo getting repeatedly SAed good enough, or is it just a way of appealing to male viewers? I think Jakkun and Rozavie's takes here are rather reasonable, and that there definitely is a solid reason. Furthermore, I think SA is clearly portrayed as a serious topic – unlike in many other anime, by the way – and I would hesitate to categorize Momo getting assaulted as straight-up fanservice. Jakkun said: Did you forget that okarun almost lost his bananas multiple times already? In fact, he already lost his balls. One of them as of now. It's not just momo that got assaulted. There are numerous dirty jokes thrown in the series. The theme of dandadan is clearly centered on sex and male violence. Don't believe me? Go back to eps 1 and we immediately open the scene with momo fighting with her ex boyfriend. Why did they fight? Because she refused to have sex with him. Need more proof? Turbo granny came to existence as a form of grudge for young girls who died in the tunnel she resides. Possibly because the girls were assaulted, turbo granny snatch away the male organs of those who entered the tunnel. It is her way of exacting revenge on the world that wronged the dead girls. Acrobatic silky was a sex worker and a single mother. She is a loving mother but pushed herself too hard and unable to pay for her debts. To make matters worse, she owed them to the yakuza. And she died miserably without ever seeing her daughter grow up. Momo getting assaulted is a problem? Well there... the signs were already scattered here and there. And it's not like it's done for pleasure. You either skip it, and move on. Or... think things through and consider it from another perspective. The world isn't kind and unreasonable to women. But momo, acro silky, turbo granny, all of them are fighting against the unreasonable world. Maybe they can just decide not to include it. But perhaps somewhere within you, you are also feigning ignorance? It's not like it came out of nowhere. You should've known what you're getting into. Rozavie said: It’s a commentary and a subversion of the genre. Girls in anime get sexualized constantly, and are subjected to sexual harassment on the regular. The difference here is that Momo is empowered, and encouraged by the narrative, to fight back. I don’t think the purpose is to turn people on. The purpose is to make you uncomfortable by making you think about all the real men who think it’s okay to take advantage of teenage girls. Secondly, is Momo getting repeatedly SAed necessary? This is where Dandadan fails, in my opinion. Since most people reading this are dudes which is the target demographic of shōnen, let's flip the genders here for a moment: Okarun and Momo go on an adventure. The first time Okarun's balls are almost sat on by robotic-behind 3000, he unlocks his psychic powers and uses it to save himself from a group of sex-crazed female aliens. Momo encounters Turbo Grandpops, who steals her, uhh, idk. Ovaries or something?? Okarun repeatedly has fights against sadistic dommy mommies involving CBT, while Momo punches aliens and kaiju a lot with her new Turbo Grandpops speed power. I'm going to be honest, if this was what happened, I would not drop the show, but I would probably get annoyed by Okarun getting dominated every other fight, especially considering how Momo gets to just punch aliens and kaiju a lot. So, is Momo getting repeatedly assaulted necessary? No, not at all. |
Jul 10, 12:13 AM
#94
Reply to dicecultmafia
@RobertBobert wym i was very put off by that
its one of the reasons ive rated the show very low. and tbh i feel like people use meme reasons as an excuse to not see it as weird as it is.
this kinda thing is ALMOST funny at a conceptual level but when it's part of an actual story... nah. it's just not cool
its one of the reasons ive rated the show very low. and tbh i feel like people use meme reasons as an excuse to not see it as weird as it is.
this kinda thing is ALMOST funny at a conceptual level but when it's part of an actual story... nah. it's just not cool
@dicecultmafia Are you unironically surprised that people find the show funny and entertaining, even though you personally think it's weird? You have the right to your opinion, but to be surprised that people don't share your opinion is rather strange in my opinion. Especially considering you're writing this as someone with significantly surreal or equally fetishized shows on your page. |
Jul 10, 11:27 AM
#95
bastek66 said: @WalterBlack59 Did Dragon Ballsack fanbase forgot that their favourite series had plenty of scenes like Bulma's pantyshots and her lifting skirt and showing bare ass (and cooch)? It’s a reaction meme image tf you so pressed about 💀 proving my point by being so triggered |
Jul 10, 12:33 PM
#96
Lol jesus christ, I love how Dandadan's reputation is just tied to this shit now. Is it weird that the author has had a teenager nearly get raped twice? YES IT IS. BUT, guess what? It basically stops happening after the hot spring incident. Like deadass, the author just drops the trope. But the good ol' internet loves to only talk about a series when something fucked up or weird happens, so now there's people out there who act like/will legitimately believe that there's SA or near-SA in every other chapter, and they'll think that DDD is exclusively defined by those moments as if that's its selling point, when it genuinely only happens twice within the first 30 chapters, then just stops happening. Also, although there are some weirdos (some of whom are in this thread) who will see it as fanservice, or who will believe that DDD is "all about SA" and that that's "the comedic purpose of the show" (which, btw, is such a ridiculous and insanely inaccurate statement LMFAOOOOO), it's not like the author is making it look hot or sexy, or doing it in a way that glamorizes rape. It's literally just the concept of bad individuals.....doing bad things 😱‼️ Which doesn't particularly justify those scenes, but it's more like, why are we surprised that clearly evil people (or aliens) would stoop to doing an extremely evil thing like SA. |
thebrentinator24Jul 10, 12:51 PM
People on MAL refuse to actually enjoy watching anime. Your taste in anime isn't a personality trait. Take me back to the days before MAL became infested with Twitter's favorite buzzwords. |
Jul 10, 3:53 PM
#97
Because unfortunately, people like watching this kind of stuff, and the authors also have their "fetishes." There's demand, there's supply. What's even more disgusting is how people think it's fun or hot. For example, scenes of attempted rape are hot for some people because, you know, "Momo was in her underwear and those shots, those camera close-ups"... bleeehh. It's unnecessary, but will it go away? Probably not. I'm guessing Momo and Okarun, or other kids, will be molested a few more times in the future. In some series, such scenes are well-executed, well-explained psychologically, and fit better into the plot, but here they are often turned into jokes or simply used to create a shock effect, but it comes off terribly poorly. |
Jollyne7Jul 10, 4:01 PM
Jul 10, 5:33 PM
#98
Here's my take on all this. First off, in Japan Momo is of legal age. It isn't the legal age in America, so it's understandable to be confused and grossed out if you're American, but in Japan she is legal, so from that perspective it isn't that strange. As an example, Bahrain has an age of consent of 21, so they probably look at America's age of consent being 18 and think it's weird and gross. You don't magically become more mature and adult between the ages of 16 and 18, the only real difference is that you have two more years of experience, which in the grand scheme of things really isn't much at all. 16 and 18 year olds are practically the same developmentally. The brain doesn't stop developing until you reach about 26. It's essentially just a difference in culture in this context. Now as for the SA stuff. I do agree that it is pretty unnecessary. At the same time though, they are bad, evil characters. Evil characters are supposed to be evil. They do terrible things and commit heinous crimes. That's what makes them evil. If you dumb them down, then they aren't really evil anymore. They should probably handle it a little more tactfully and not show as much as they do, and not try to make it out as if it's haha funny that she's being sexually assaulted. And the people who actually enjoy it as "fanservice" are pretty fucked up. You're getting off to either a minor or a barely legal woman getting assaulted. That's not okay. Seek therapy. Also, as many others have stated, it's an odd double standard to be upset about Momo being sexualized but not about Okarun being sexualized when from an American's perspective both of them are minors. |
coreynjJul 10, 6:10 PM
Jul 10, 6:05 PM
#99
Reply to bastek66
This isn't facebook or bluesky you can normally write words like sexually abused, rape, murder etc.
@yesiexistbro 16 is legal in majority of civilized world and pedos prefer younger and flatter.
@yesiexistbro 16 is legal in majority of civilized world and pedos prefer younger and flatter.
@bastek66 To be clear they're not censoring words like SA in order to avoid a filter. A lot of people censor it because for victims of SA, simply seeing the words "sexual assault" can trigger a PTSD flashback and they're trying to be considerate of those people. Seeing "SA" and knowing the context, it probably doesn't help all that much, but it's the thought that counts. |
Jul 10, 9:28 PM
#100
its gross doesn't translate and i wish we could have an arc where they all just graduate and have birthdays and go onto college and keep having their silly adventures as college freshmen or something. it wouldn't materially change the adventures and would be less gross. Theres no defending the sexual assault stuff. It takes away from whats otherwise a maximalist balls to the wall story. |
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