Which is better Part 1 or Shippuden?

SupremeGod said:
so you think shippuden is way better than part 1 then?

blxck_dexth said:
yep, u will understand for urself if u go further into shippuden. I couldnt stop watching shippuden after i started it, i finished it in 2 months. But to me, the first naruto was a bit boring and it took me more than 4 months to watch it cuz the story was a bit off and overall,(I took a lot of breaks) it wasnt THAT VERY MUCH good, it was just a normal anime to me. But shippuden was special, the story and everything was top.

crimsontomato said:
Both of them have their own flaws and strengths. But my personal favorite is Shippuden because it has a better soundtrack (the Orochimaru theme still slaps though), animation, fights, character development, plot twists, and iconic moments. No more harem jutsu to beg Pervaiya for training. Characters mature a bit (the MC is so annoying in Part 1).

 

But what I appreciate about classic series is that there are very few fillers (~7) up until the battle of the final valley). Whereas in Shippuden, there are filler arcs everywhere in between .(I'm not saying they're garbage; I liked them, especially that 3-tails arc). You definitely need a filler guide.

Shippuden's War arc becomes another Bleach with pathetic pacing, asspulls, and large-scale destructions.

Chainsaw_Derp said:
Shippuden imo
More stakes and better villains imo, also all the cool EOS abilities

SupremeGod said:
Which is better in your opinion Part 1/OG Naruto or Shippuden? i think Shippuden is better so far of what i've watched Pain Arc alone is better than anything in Part 1

DENAM_106 said:

For me? yes definitely
even tho it has flaws here and there , the pros make up for it big time

EP1C_G4YM3R said:

You just said that shippuden “has its flaws”, no matter how many pros a show has, the presence of any cons alone means that it can’t be a masterpiece. I have no problem with you thinking Naruto Shippuden is a masterpiece, I have a problem with you admitting to it having flaws but still being a 10/10 masterpiece, if you can spot any flaws at all it can only be a 9/10 grandiose adventure at max. I’m not trying to start a war over opinions (unlike most people in this thread it seems) I’m just questioning your contradictory statements.

Contradictory statements aside, at the end of the day you enjoying whatever it is you’re watching is all that matters.

DENAM_106 said:

You can say i am on a more biased side for this

But hey, at the end of they every anime has flaws and cannot be given 10/10 , even if it is one piece level
the 10/10 score I have given to those animes which genuinely touched me
So yeah, At the end of the day its all about personal preference and maximum enjoyment one has given, because we are far from a critique

EP1C_G4YM3R said:

I’ve learned to separate subjective flaws (more opinion based) [Ex: Minor inconsistency due to the writer reworking on the story to go in a direction they thought was better] and objective flaws (has more to do with production and quality) [Ex: bad filler placement that interrupts the flow of the story]. I don’t know which of the 2 you were spotting, but I’d imagine a handful of them had to be the objective kind.

A series can be on its way to be a masterpiece, but one of the teams involved in the making of it can make one wrong turn in the decision making process and lower the rating it would’ve deserved. I’m just trying my best to point out the differences, I’ve become a bit of a critique myself from the years I’ve spent watching television, and the interest I’ve taken in cinematography. I’m not a certified critique, more of a self proclaimed one, but I feel like a got a trained eye for flaws at this point. I can even recognize when a story is a masterpiece or is at least good even if I take no personal interest in it. I guess you can say that I try to stay non-biased when it comes to rating.

An anime I consider to be a masterpiece would be Re: Zero, there’s not a single objective flaw I can point out, some people may point out flaws, but they’re all subjective ones. (The wait time between seasons being 4 years apart sucks of course, the quality of the story being told is still present. If we didn’t have to wait so long, that quality would probably be diminished. So since the wait time only improves the show I only count that as a subjective flaw due to my own impatience, and not an objective one.)

DENAM_106 said:

i Get what you mean by that,
its like how story is written and if has only
minor flaws
Strictly speaking of animes
Gintama , Jojo, One piece , can be considered masterpiece even if they have flaws
(part1 of jojo) (first 50 eps of gintama)

EP1C_G4YM3R said:

I’m glad my point came across, I was a little worried it wouldn’t.
I’ve never seen Gintama or One Piece, so I can’t speak for them. But JoJo speaking of parts 1 and 2 (without the ending scene of part 2 that teases part 3) strictly is definitely what I’d consider a masterpiece, once the other parts get into the mix though the original purpose of the show gets lost multiple times in hopes to stay relevant in the shounen genre, and the art style changes simply because the illustrator couldn’t replicate the original design (not that I don’t like those parts by any means, on the contrary actually, but I recognize the flaws in them)

SupremeGod said:
Which is better in your opinion Part 1/OG Naruto or Shippuden? i think Shippuden is better so far of what i've watched Pain Arc alone is better than anything in Part 1

satchoff said:


Part 1 overall is better.

You will see how fuked up it becomes at the end of Shippuden....

Naruto has a good part of comedy.
In shippuden less to none.

In Naruto - every characters are relevant and at basic same level.
In Shippuden only Naruto - Sasuke - Sakura - Gai - Kakashi matters. Others are completely irrelevant in the last 150 episodes. Many ninjas had potentiel but get useless. Neiji A.K.A the "genius" was so bad in Shippuden. His character downgraded so bad.
Naruto at the end became a CHEATCODE and others are trash.

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Shippuden has been huge until the World War. It was amazing to watch it. But when the world war begin it gets fucked up.

Loaf_dontcare said:

I understand what you mean, but to say that Sakura was one of the only relevant characters in Shippuden is just false. lol

No offense. :)

But yeah, I 100% understand what you mean.
Out of Narutos Gen only him, Sasuke, Gaara, and Shikamaru were really relevant in Shippuden.

Honorable mentiones to Ino, Choji, and Temari.

But most other characters weren't relevant.
I mean, look at my man, Lee. 🥺😒

And Neji didn't really had an option.. (from a writing perspective) (I don't want to say more about this because it's spoilers, and OP isn't up to date)

Loaf_dontcare said:
Neji didn't really had an option..

satchoff said:



Idk i didn't watch the end of Naruto Shippuden since it was fucked up and at that moment Naruto Shippuden was in "break" and I was lazy to continue after that.

But Isn't sakura saved Naruto many times ? ( for me she still irrelevant asf ahah ) .

My favourite character is Lee. Lee was straight shiiiit in shippuden.
Neiji the same.

Idk where Ino/Choji and Temari was relevant? i certainly missed that part ahah

satchoff said:


I swear he could have a better role. Watching shippuden he seems like he was beside every characters. Even choji could beat him at this point. Hinata seems to be better than him.

where is the "genius" of his generation ? what Naruto writters promise to us ?



At least in Shippuden they could give Neiji a role where he could defeat an Akatsuki member 1 v 1. to make him a little bit relevant ahah.

A Neji + Lee vs 2 akatsuki member . would have been so fiiiiiire ( but i understand why lee didn't had a place in shippuden since Gai take his place to shine. because in Naruto he didn't had that chance ) . And both have same habilities and mindset.

DENAM_106 said:

In case of Jojo,
I dont think the illustrator was unable to create the original design ,rather he wanted something new , how i see jojo is he writes them as different manga altogether with shared connectivity and concept so that he doesn't need to focus on that every time he creates a new with different characters manga , also fanservice can be done by featuring previous characters into the current manga

SupremeGod said:
oh ok is that why you rated OG Naruto a 7 and Shippuden a 10?