Badguy_oncel said: except everything he said is true, anime industry need to step up like ufotable( even they only have good cg during night fights). Anime is getting popular now and has pretty good demand but cgi department is indeed lagging which they are doing they are experimenting with new ways which they can use cgi on anime |
Badguy_oncel said: Shadab98 said: indian movie brahmastra had even better cg than rrr, infact it was better than latest thor movie.Except CGI is highly dependent on budget/money. Just spending time on it won't improve it. And Anime studios can just copy the CGI development from Hollywood, it doesn't matter when they first started using it. Chinese movies are doing it, even Indian movie RRR had pretty great CGI this year. But it won't happen. Because the Anime studios barely have the money. They spend pennies on these shows and its and never gonna change. Best to to just stop using CGI altogether Bhai kya........... |
Apolygon2 said: the ep 1 one? it wasn't the best, but it wasn't that bad either. but the cgi in ep3 was perfect. and as far as I could tell ep2 and 4 were fully 2d other than maybe some backgrounds. which honestly? look the same if not better in good 3d. Okay makes sense now, guy goes from 1 post to another coping that animation is good LOLOLOL trash anime + L animation from L studio |
| Toy story doesent even have that bad cgi |
VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: the ep 1 one? it wasn't the best, but it wasn't that bad either. but the cgi in ep3 was perfect. and as far as I could tell ep2 and 4 were fully 2d other than maybe some backgrounds. which honestly? look the same if not better in good 3d. Okay makes sense now, guy goes from 1 post to another coping that animation is good LOLOLOL trash anime + L animation from L studio VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: the ep 1 one? it wasn't the best, but it wasn't that bad either. but the cgi in ep3 was perfect. and as far as I could tell ep2 and 4 were fully 2d other than maybe some backgrounds. which honestly? look the same if not better in good 3d. Okay makes sense now, guy goes from 1 post to another coping that animation is good LOLOLOL trash anime + L animation from L studio my man you have date a live season 3 and tokyo ghoul re fucking 2 as a 7. let me repeat YOU GAVE TOKYO GHOUL RE 2 A 7!!!!! I have 0 reason to cope. I know when mappa or any studio fucks up. if anything you're the one coping by giving AOT s4 a 9, same score as s3 p2, despite the fact that the production value is way worse, if the complaints about visuals weren't on the best looking show this year, maybe it would be slightly valid. actually that's a lie, giving re 2 a 7 makes everything you say invalid but still. |
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Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: Okay makes sense now, guy goes from 1 post to another coping that animation is good LOLOLOL trash anime + L animation from L studio VelxonY said: Okay makes sense now, guy goes from 1 post to another coping that animation is good LOLOLOL trash anime + L animation from L studio my man you have date a live season 3 and tokyo ghoul re fucking 2 as a 7. let me repeat YOU GAVE TOKYO GHOUL RE 2 A 7!!!!! I have 0 reason to cope. I know when mappa or any studio fucks up. if anything you're the one coping by giving AOT s4 a 9, same score as s3 p2, despite the fact that the production value is way worse, if the complaints about visuals weren't on the best looking show this year, maybe it would be slightly valid. actually that's a lie, giving re 2 a 7 makes everything you say invalid but still. Guy shaking in anger because someone called his favorite show bad lol. Average neckbeard quoting people multiple times because he can't take the heat. Dorohedoro level animation in another L show from MAPPA who would have guessed. |
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laiskasaku said: Shadab98 said: Really sad to see how far behind the anime industry is. Like this is the most hyped new anime this year and this is the level of budget and quality? Anime studios just need to stop using CGI or get spend more on them. But even Godzilla anime movies don't have good CGi so no way any anime tv series is gonna get better. are you a dumbass or a dumbass? there exist a lot more bad cgi, witch are way worse, then in chainsaw man... Well yeah CSM isn't the worst, its just bad... Not good, not average, but bad. + you are the dumbass, that isn't how you use 'then' |
VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: my man you have date a live season 3 and tokyo ghoul re fucking 2 as a 7. let me repeat YOU GAVE TOKYO GHOUL RE 2 A 7!!!!! I have 0 reason to cope. I know when mappa or any studio fucks up. if anything you're the one coping by giving AOT s4 a 9, same score as s3 p2, despite the fact that the production value is way worse, if the complaints about visuals weren't on the best looking show this year, maybe it would be slightly valid. actually that's a lie, giving re 2 a 7 makes everything you say invalid but still. Guy shaking in anger because someone called his favorite show bad lol. Average neckbeard quoting people multiple times because he can't take the heat. Dorohedoro level animation in another L show from MAPPA who would have guessed. chainsaw is not even my favorite show this year, let alone of all time. that would be made in abyss season 2. it might not even be second depending on how mob psycho goes. and again, the worse production from mappa is by far their attack on titan, specially part one of s4. if you want to be angry at their cgi, the least you can do is be consistent and hate their worst work too. |
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Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: Guy shaking in anger because someone called his favorite show bad lol. Average neckbeard quoting people multiple times because he can't take the heat. Dorohedoro level animation in another L show from MAPPA who would have guessed. chainsaw is not even my favorite show this year, let alone of all time. that would be made in abyss season 2. it might not even be second depending on how mob psycho goes. and again, the worse production from mappa is by far their attack on titan, specially part one of s4. if you want to be angry at their cgi, the least you can do is be consistent and hate their worst work too. They are pretty damn close tbh, both cgi are appaling, but aot at least has some incredibly good plot that can carry the terrible animation. Same with kingdom, terrible cgi but still a watchable show. Not so case with chainsaw man. |
VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: chainsaw is not even my favorite show this year, let alone of all time. that would be made in abyss season 2. it might not even be second depending on how mob psycho goes. and again, the worse production from mappa is by far their attack on titan, specially part one of s4. if you want to be angry at their cgi, the least you can do is be consistent and hate their worst work too. They are pretty damn close tbh, both cgi are appaling, but aot at least has some incredibly good plot that can carry the terrible animation. Same with kingdom, terrible cgi but still a watchable show. Not so case with chainsaw man. bruh chainsawman episode 4 had 10 minutes of 2d sakuga. even if you think the very few 3d shots look bad the rest of the show looks godly. it is actually movie quality. don't compare this to aot in terms of production. this barely has cgi to begin with. and you gave the manga an 8, so you like the story for chainsaw man too, at least that's what it seems frim the score |
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Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: They are pretty damn close tbh, both cgi are appaling, but aot at least has some incredibly good plot that can carry the terrible animation. Same with kingdom, terrible cgi but still a watchable show. Not so case with chainsaw man. bruh chainsawman episode 4 had 10 minutes of 2d sakuga. even if you think the very few 3d shots look bad the rest of the show looks godly. it is actually movie quality. don't compare this to aot in terms of production. this barely has cgi to begin with. and you gave the manga an 8, so you like the story for chainsaw man too, at least that's what it seems frim the score And its not just a few shots that look bad, those bad shots are the only ones people are talking about, there is many more. It also goes both ways with you basing the whole thing being good by only having some good scenes in ep 4. MAPPA spent millions on twitter hashtags and decided to have different ed for every episode. There is no excuses for them not having enough budget to get rid of bad CG. Sounds to me like bad choices were made and people are overlooking it. Another thing, MAPPA takes good/awesome series and makes it mid while other studios do the oppsite. |
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dtg75 said: Apolygon2 said: bruh chainsawman episode 4 had 10 minutes of 2d sakuga. even if you think the very few 3d shots look bad the rest of the show looks godly. it is actually movie quality. don't compare this to aot in terms of production. this barely has cgi to begin with. and you gave the manga an 8, so you like the story for chainsaw man too, at least that's what it seems frim the score Full 24 minutes were 2d sakuga though. I was going to question this, but then I thought about how the tooth brush scene had more frames than every single fight in opm s2. |
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VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: bruh chainsawman episode 4 had 10 minutes of 2d sakuga. even if you think the very few 3d shots look bad the rest of the show looks godly. it is actually movie quality. don't compare this to aot in terms of production. this barely has cgi to begin with. and you gave the manga an 8, so you like the story for chainsaw man too, at least that's what it seems frim the score And its not just a few shots that look bad, those bad shots are the only ones people are talking about, there is many more. It also goes both ways with you basing the whole thing being good by only having some good scenes in ep 4. MAPPA spent millions on twitter hashtags and decided to have different ed for every episode. There is no excuses for them not having enough budget to get rid of bad CG. Sounds to me like bad choices were made and people are overlooking it. Another thing, MAPPA takes good/awesome series and makes it mid while other studios do the oppsite. saying the cgi, which isn't even bad, is show ruining is an extreme exaggeration and I'm sure you're smart enough to know this. even their worst production which is aot s4 p1 is far from being ruined by the production, and that actually did have bad cgi at some points. your score of it being a 9 suggests that you understand this. and that's besides the point of the only cgi that was even slightly out of place was 2 or 3 shots in episode 1. that's it!! everything else has been either 2d, or has had perfectly implemented cgi that is not even slightly noticeable. you can't even tell it apart. again, a few shots in the ep1 fight scene did look kind of out of place. that is literally the only place this show didn't look like a high budget anime movie. that's it! I can't understand why, but for some reason you have a massive hate boner for this show. like everything has a limit. if you were just criticizing it in a way that made sense, that would be normal. but saying the show looks terrible because of cgi while giving it a 1/10, when it has had very little cgi to begin with, is fucking dumb. again I will remind you, you rated date a live III and re 2 a 7. those 2 have dog shit visuals. I would take chainsawman's visuals over them every day of the week even if it was FULL CGI. And I love date a live, it's my guilty pleasure show, so I'm not saying this out of hate. you clearly have HUGE biased against this show for some reason. and if you don't see it, I'm sorry, but you aren't very smart. |
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Aryan264 said: it was better bro but nowhere near adhipurush, the pinnacle of cg usageBadguy_oncel said: indian movie brahmastra had even better cg than rrr, infact it was better than latest thor movie. Bhai kya........... |
Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: And its not just a few shots that look bad, those bad shots are the only ones people are talking about, there is many more. It also goes both ways with you basing the whole thing being good by only having some good scenes in ep 4. MAPPA spent millions on twitter hashtags and decided to have different ed for every episode. There is no excuses for them not having enough budget to get rid of bad CG. Sounds to me like bad choices were made and people are overlooking it. Another thing, MAPPA takes good/awesome series and makes it mid while other studios do the oppsite. saying the cgi, which isn't even bad, is show ruining is an extreme exaggeration and I'm sure you're smart enough to know this. even their worst production which is aot s4 p1 is far from being ruined by the production, and that actually did have bad cgi at some points. your score of it being a 9 suggests that you understand this. and that's besides the point of the only cgi that was even slightly out of place was 2 or 3 shots in episode 1. that's it!! everything else has been either 2d, or has had perfectly implemented cgi that is not even slightly noticeable. you can't even tell it apart. again, a few shots in the ep1 fight scene did look kind of out of place. that is literally the only place this show didn't look like a high budget anime movie. that's it! I can't understand why, but for some reason you have a massive hate boner for this show. like everything has a limit. if you were just criticizing it in a way that made sense, that would be normal. but saying the show looks terrible because of cgi while giving it a 1/10, when it has had very little cgi to begin with, is fucking dumb. again I will remind you, you rated date a live III and re 2 a 7. those 2 have dog shit visuals. I would take chainsawman's visuals over them every day of the week even if it was FULL CGI. And I love date a live, it's my guilty pleasure show, so I'm not saying this out of hate. you clearly have HUGE biased against this show for some reason. and if you don't see it, I'm sorry, but you aren't very smart. I put it as 1 to bait snowflakes, I would give it like 7 or 8 max tbh. And yes its ruining the show, it kills immersion and I will be going hard hating on all cg because I don't want to see dogshit implementation in anime. Remember how cg was used just for background and now its coming more and more into full-show implementation, this is really BAD for the anime community. you are an eva fan as I see so you must like 2d mecha. Guess what, all the mecha nowadays are 3d cg dogshit... They will keep implementing CG if we don't boycott it in some way because it brings them the most profit, so just think about it. Props to Sunrise for making amazing 2d mecha GUNDAM anime https://myanimelist.net/forum/?topicid=1757730 |
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VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: saying the cgi, which isn't even bad, is show ruining is an extreme exaggeration and I'm sure you're smart enough to know this. even their worst production which is aot s4 p1 is far from being ruined by the production, and that actually did have bad cgi at some points. your score of it being a 9 suggests that you understand this. and that's besides the point of the only cgi that was even slightly out of place was 2 or 3 shots in episode 1. that's it!! everything else has been either 2d, or has had perfectly implemented cgi that is not even slightly noticeable. you can't even tell it apart. again, a few shots in the ep1 fight scene did look kind of out of place. that is literally the only place this show didn't look like a high budget anime movie. that's it! I can't understand why, but for some reason you have a massive hate boner for this show. like everything has a limit. if you were just criticizing it in a way that made sense, that would be normal. but saying the show looks terrible because of cgi while giving it a 1/10, when it has had very little cgi to begin with, is fucking dumb. again I will remind you, you rated date a live III and re 2 a 7. those 2 have dog shit visuals. I would take chainsawman's visuals over them every day of the week even if it was FULL CGI. And I love date a live, it's my guilty pleasure show, so I'm not saying this out of hate. you clearly have HUGE biased against this show for some reason. and if you don't see it, I'm sorry, but you aren't very smart. I put it as 1 to bait snowflakes, I would give it like 7 or 8 max tbh. And yes its ruining the show, it kills immersion and I will be going hard hating on all cg because I don't want to see dogshit implementation in anime. Remember how cg was used just for background and now its coming more and more into full-show implementation, this is really BAD for the anime community. you are an eva fan as I see so you must like 2d mecha. Guess what, all the mecha nowadays are 3d cg dogshit... They will keep implementing CG if we don't boycott it in some way because it brings them the most profit, so just think about it. Props to Sunrise for making amazing 2d mecha GUNDAM anime well yes they are implementing 3d more and more, but they are also getting better at implementing 3d more and more. I thought even this show, the way the handled cgi in episode 3 was perfect. Most people wouldn't even notice it. and even if you do, it genuinely looks good. I also think 3d backgrounds are perfectly fine. specially when they are handled well like the first season of the promised neverland. I also also like really good looking 3d shows like beastars and specially arcane. I do agree on the fact that characters just always look better in 2d though, specially when they switch from 2d to 3d mid show, it can be very jarring. but then again, if it's used for long shots to not be noticeable I'm fine with it. which is why ep 1 of this show was the only one that had jarring 3d. I have no idea why they did that. even the hug scene, that would have been so easy to make in 2d and was a god damn close up. I think they have handled everything perfectly though after that. and I'm not going to say the whole show has bad visuals because of a few shots in episode 1, specially when everything else looks this good. even the cgi wasn't that bad. it wasn't great, but it was also far from being the worst. if you think otherwise, then you haven't seen bad cgi. |
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Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: I put it as 1 to bait snowflakes, I would give it like 7 or 8 max tbh. And yes its ruining the show, it kills immersion and I will be going hard hating on all cg because I don't want to see dogshit implementation in anime. Remember how cg was used just for background and now its coming more and more into full-show implementation, this is really BAD for the anime community. you are an eva fan as I see so you must like 2d mecha. Guess what, all the mecha nowadays are 3d cg dogshit... They will keep implementing CG if we don't boycott it in some way because it brings them the most profit, so just think about it. Props to Sunrise for making amazing 2d mecha GUNDAM anime well yes they are implementing 3d more and more, but they are also getting better at implementing 3d more and more. I thought even this show, the way the handled cgi in episode 3 was perfect. Most people wouldn't even notice it. and even if you do, it genuinely looks good. I also think 3d backgrounds are perfectly fine. specially when they are handled well like the first season of the promised neverland. I also also like really good looking 3d shows like beastars and specially arcane. I do agree on the fact that characters just always look better in 2d though, specially when they switch from 2d to 3d mid show, it can be very jarring. but then again, if it's used for long shots to not be noticeable I'm fine with it. which is why ep 1 of this show was the only one that had jarring 3d. I have no idea why they did that. even the hug scene, that would have been so easy to make in 2d and was a god damn close up. I think they have handled everything perfectly though after that. and I'm not going to say the whole show has bad visuals because of a few shots in episode 1, specially when everything else looks this good. even the cgi wasn't that bad. it wasn't great, but it was also far from being the worst. if you think otherwise, then you haven't seen bad cgi. I watched quite a few actually, Gibiate, Berserk, Dorohedoro (yes it was terrible dont tell me it was good), arifureta (perfect example of little cg that completely shits on show) |
VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: well yes they are implementing 3d more and more, but they are also getting better at implementing 3d more and more. I thought even this show, the way the handled cgi in episode 3 was perfect. Most people wouldn't even notice it. and even if you do, it genuinely looks good. I also think 3d backgrounds are perfectly fine. specially when they are handled well like the first season of the promised neverland. I also also like really good looking 3d shows like beastars and specially arcane. I do agree on the fact that characters just always look better in 2d though, specially when they switch from 2d to 3d mid show, it can be very jarring. but then again, if it's used for long shots to not be noticeable I'm fine with it. which is why ep 1 of this show was the only one that had jarring 3d. I have no idea why they did that. even the hug scene, that would have been so easy to make in 2d and was a god damn close up. I think they have handled everything perfectly though after that. and I'm not going to say the whole show has bad visuals because of a few shots in episode 1, specially when everything else looks this good. even the cgi wasn't that bad. it wasn't great, but it was also far from being the worst. if you think otherwise, then you haven't seen bad cgi. I watched quite a few actually, Gibiate, Berserk, Dorohedoro (yes it was terrible dont tell me it was good), arifureta (perfect example of little cg that completely shits on show) I haven't seen dorohedoro, but from the screen shots, the cgi seems, pretty mid. not bad, but pretty mid. Certainly not as good as orange's works, and a million steps behind arcane. but if we compare it to the other examples you mentioned for bad cgi? come on it's way better than them. |
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Apolygon2 said: VelxonY said: I watched quite a few actually, Gibiate, Berserk, Dorohedoro (yes it was terrible dont tell me it was good), arifureta (perfect example of little cg that completely shits on show) I haven't seen dorohedoro, but from the screen shots, the cgi seems, pretty mid. not bad, but pretty mid. Certainly not as good as orange's works, and a million steps behind arcane. but if we it compare to the other examples you mentioned for bad cgi? come on it's way better than them. Well you can see its much better because you said you only saw the screen shots which are still images, the problem with cg are not visual images but the movement and interaction with environment. It just moves at more frames than anything else which makes it incredibly mehhh. |
VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: well yes they are implementing 3d more and more, but they are also getting better at implementing 3d more and more. I thought even this show, the way the handled cgi in episode 3 was perfect. Most people wouldn't even notice it. and even if you do, it genuinely looks good. I also think 3d backgrounds are perfectly fine. specially when they are handled well like the first season of the promised neverland. I also also like really good looking 3d shows like beastars and specially arcane. I do agree on the fact that characters just always look better in 2d though, specially when they switch from 2d to 3d mid show, it can be very jarring. but then again, if it's used for long shots to not be noticeable I'm fine with it. which is why ep 1 of this show was the only one that had jarring 3d. I have no idea why they did that. even the hug scene, that would have been so easy to make in 2d and was a god damn close up. I think they have handled everything perfectly though after that. and I'm not going to say the whole show has bad visuals because of a few shots in episode 1, specially when everything else looks this good. even the cgi wasn't that bad. it wasn't great, but it was also far from being the worst. if you think otherwise, then you haven't seen bad cgi. I watched quite a few actually, Gibiate, Berserk, Dorohedoro (yes it was terrible dont tell me it was good), arifureta (perfect example of little cg that completely shits on show) also arifureta is different. because: 1. while not full cgi, it still has way more cgi and chainsawman 2. the rest of the show looks pretty mid as well, the cgi is just the icing on top 3. the cgi is way worse than chainsawman's don't even pretend like they are on the same level |
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VelxonY said: Apolygon2 said: I haven't seen dorohedoro, but from the screen shots, the cgi seems, pretty mid. not bad, but pretty mid. Certainly not as good as orange's works, and a million steps behind arcane. but if we it compare to the other examples you mentioned for bad cgi? come on it's way better than them. Well you can see its much better because you said you only saw the screen shots which are still images, the problem with cg are not visual images but the movement and interaction with environment. It just moves at more frames than anything else which makes it incredibly mehhh. I can see it being meh, it looks meh. but terrible? no if nothing else, again, it looks way better than your other examples |
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Shadab98 said: Really sad to see how far behind the anime industry is. Like this is the most hyped new anime this year and this is the level of budget and quality? Anime studios just need to stop using CGI or get spend more on them. But even Godzilla anime movies don't have good CGi so no way any anime tv series is gonna get better. Anime fans when they see even a millisecond of cgi:  |
I gotta get that image lol |
These bait posts are the most fucking annoying shit. You guys are so quick to say CGI bad that you talk shit about actual 2D animation saying it’s CG. |
I can’t believe some of y’all  |
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