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May 30, 2020 12:56 PM
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Let's all accept that almost all of us are just amateurs and STFU for now. The animation was great Definitely, the artwork may not please everyone, but come on, timeskip has occurred, and AOT is not just about art and sakuga. It has breathtaking OST and plot. That alone is worth making this season a roaring success, and I'm damn sure it'll surpass FMAB, if not, at least it'll make a place in the top 10.
May 30, 2020 1:49 PM
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I don’t really get why people are saying they’ve lost hope just cause the overall animation may not be exceptional because of staff change.
While the show’s animation has always been above average, it was only season 1 where the animation actually carried a huge chunk of the show’s quality. Yes, season 2 and 3’s animation was never trash or even just Average. They just weren’t sakugafests like season 1 was. But they still provided some really good to downright amazing Sakuga such as Levi escaping the mp. But season 3 part 2 (the show’s most acclaimed season) honestly didn’t have through-the-roof animation aside from the Levi vs Beast Titan fight. In fact, I distinctly remember people complaining about the CG colossal titan and the underwhelming Eren vs. Reiner rematch fight. The animation overall of s3p2 was very good but it wasn’t its claim to fame. It was its story and directing that really put it over the top (and of course, GodWano’s soundtrack).
I guess what I’m saying is people are complaining too much about animation when that’s not what made AoT go from a great show to a masterpiece. Yes, I’m aware that the director changed. But I trust the new one to execute (he directed Dorohedoro which I adored). Especially since he and the staff have been in touch with the previous director and staff members in regards to the final season. And with the excellent source material and the return of the previous script writer and Sawano to boot, it’d take some Seven Deadly Sins level of animation to ruin the upcoming season imo. And I don’t think Mappa’s gonna allow that.
I’m not saying that season 4 is guaranteed to reach the expectations set when season 3 ended, but there’s too little reason to just downright say that season 4 is gonna be a dud just cause staff changed.



in terms of quality

season 2 > season 1 > s3 pt2 > s3 pt1
May 30, 2020 2:17 PM
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Spoilers? What spoilers are you guys talking about? The ones that only a manga-reader know is a spoiler? Doesn't bother me.
May 30, 2020 2:54 PM

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Personally I dont have problem with animation but with plot shown in trailer, the only thing I saw was boring boom boom everywhere from guns/bombs, no typical sword killings with 3D gear (that are for me more typical in SnK than anything else) and only 1 close combat (titan vs titan) of course it was only trailer but trailer usually showing main type of stuff in anime. I don't know what will happen in plot next (didn't read source because I preffer anime) but if it will be mostly about "modern weapon war" with few titan vs titan fights then it will be bad season for me.


Because you forget that this isn't Attack on TITAN anymore. You don't bring swords to a gun fight against a nation far more militarily developed than yours, which is what is going to happen in this season


May 30, 2020 7:50 PM
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@keragamming

lol you misunderstood my posts then and sorry since my english skills is bad anyway and because of my mental health im not good at articulating and heck some people say that the way i word things seems offensive to them already too so im not gonna blame you for thinking that



>i word things seems offensive to them

yeah you was offensive to me too don't forget that. but i think it's okay since you have your own reasons.


dude i was really angry at you at that time considering you persistently insist all the time that JC Staff only needs more time to make better quality animation with regards on One Punch Man season 2

and you seem to always deny that talent>time when push comes to shove in anime production
May 30, 2020 11:04 PM

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the animation is not that bad...
May 31, 2020 5:44 AM
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deg said:
todd2580 said:



>i word things seems offensive to them

yeah you was offensive to me too don't forget that. but i think it's okay since you have your own reasons.


dude i was really angry at you at that time considering you persistently insist all the time that JC Staff only needs more time to make better quality animation with regards on One Punch Man season 2

and you seem to always deny that talent>time when push comes to shove in anime production



i know that talent is required in this anime industry and some of OPM S2's staff were lacking experience in a tight schedule but some of them were decent due to having a deadline but you have to understand that no matter how much the animators are talented with more time they can do more and with less time they will still able to deliver but not as when they have time (especially in a deadline) . so i didn't deny talent but time is also an important factor and for example there's some talented people that suffered from lack of time like yoshihara "the director of black clover" or some of imai's season 3's part 2 work in AoT which was kinda restricted.
May 31, 2020 1:34 PM
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I don’t really get why people are saying they’ve lost hope just cause the overall animation may not be exceptional because of staff change.
While the show’s animation has always been above average, it was only season 1 where the animation actually carried a huge chunk of the show’s quality. Yes, season 2 and 3’s animation was never trash or even just Average. They just weren’t sakugafests like season 1 was. But they still provided some really good to downright amazing Sakuga such as Levi escaping the mp. But season 3 part 2 (the show’s most acclaimed season) honestly didn’t have through-the-roof animation aside from the Levi vs Beast Titan fight. In fact, I distinctly remember people complaining about the CG colossal titan and the underwhelming Eren vs. Reiner rematch fight. The animation overall of s3p2 was very good but it wasn’t its claim to fame. It was its story and directing that really put it over the top (and of course, GodWano’s soundtrack).
I guess what I’m saying is people are complaining too much about animation when that’s not what made AoT go from a great show to a masterpiece. Yes, I’m aware that the director changed. But I trust the new one to execute (he directed Dorohedoro which I adored). Especially since he and the staff have been in touch with the previous director and staff members in regards to the final season. And with the excellent source material and the return of the previous script writer and Sawano to boot, it’d take some Seven Deadly Sins level of animation to ruin the upcoming season imo. And I don’t think Mappa’s gonna allow that.
I’m not saying that season 4 is guaranteed to reach the expectations set when season 3 ended, but there’s too little reason to just downright say that season 4 is gonna be a dud just cause staff changed.

finally a thread that makes sense. Glad to see that level headed people exist in this community instead of only retards because quite frankly, the PV was very well made
Jun 2, 2020 11:55 AM
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deg said:
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isn't that what imai did anyway? He didn't do every scene, but only did a few big scenes like Levi's stuff


ye thats the point of sakuga its usually the money shot and its been known that most sakuga of attack on titan is done by Imai and Ebishu if i remember to spell his name right
he's been following the main channels related to attack on titan final season, so he might be coming back. He's a freelancer, so he's not directly exclusive or tied with specific studios
Jun 2, 2020 12:01 PM
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JJ_jose said:
deg said:


ye thats the point of sakuga its usually the money shot and its been known that most sakuga of attack on titan is done by Imai and Ebishu if i remember to spell his name right
he's been following the main channels related to attack on titan final season, so he might be coming back. He's a freelancer, so he's not directly exclusive or tied with specific studios


even if he is he is not the dedicated or main action animator/director anymore so all he can do now is just fewer sakuga scenes at most well the last season he only did fewer sakuga already so what more now?
Jun 2, 2020 12:03 PM
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deg said:
JJ_jose said:
he's been following the main channels related to attack on titan final season, so he might be coming back. He's a freelancer, so he's not directly exclusive or tied with specific studios


even if he is he is not the dedicated or main action animator/director anymore so all he can do now is just fewer sakuga scenes at most well the last season he only did fewer sakuga already so what more now?
he's never done all action scenes, he was essentially there for the big demanding money shot scenes, more specifically with levi. He's never done more than a few in a season, so it's possibly the same here
Jun 2, 2020 12:05 PM
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JJ_jose said:
deg said:


even if he is he is not the dedicated or main action animator/director anymore so all he can do now is just fewer sakuga scenes at most well the last season he only did fewer sakuga already so what more now?
he's never done all action scenes, he was essentially there for the big demanding money shot scenes, more specifically with levi. He's never done more than a few in a season, so it's possibly the same here


obviously but you are missing my point entirely just look at the sakugabooru of Arifumi Imai and how much sakuga he did for Attack on Titan like 73 of them right now here https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=arifumi_imai
Jun 2, 2020 12:07 PM
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deg said:
JJ_jose said:
he's never done all action scenes, he was essentially there for the big demanding money shot scenes, more specifically with levi. He's never done more than a few in a season, so it's possibly the same here


obviously but you are missing my point entirely just look at the sakugabooru of Arifumi Imai and how much sakuga he did for Attack on Titan like 73 of them right now here https://www.sakugabooru.com/post?tags=arifumi_imai
wow, didn't realise he did that much
Jun 2, 2020 12:23 PM

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seriously there is nothing wrong with the new animation, other than a quality loss in a few scenes
i mean the show hasnt even aired so chill
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