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Gah, touche. Damned plot holes.
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What's this? I watched a KR movie BEFORE you guys? And a non Director's Cut no less? ....Or am I just simply the first to comment on it?

W Forever:


So overall, definitely a fun movie although flawed. Hopefully, the Director's Cut will fix these issues. I'll be there when it comes out.
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Yeah, I was kinda busy. But I just watched it. The movie was awesome. True, things were a bit hurried, but they had just an hour to tell the whole story. The DC version might fix it and this movie is good enough to justi-phi watching it again.

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Yeah, I was kinda busy. But I just watched it. The movie was awesome. True, things were a bit hurried, but they had just an hour to tell the whole story. The DC version might fix it and this movie is good enough to justi-phi watching it again.



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Jan 16, 2011 5:51 PM

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They fudge the continuity of all sentai with the vs. movies. They just started doing that with KR now. And remember, OOO and W are together in Movie Wars 2011.

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Is this out? I'm in non-KR mode right now so I missed the release from W-Time.

I guess I'll watch it when I have a moment...
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m4rc0 said:
They fudge the continuity of all sentai with the vs. movies. They just started doing that with KR now. And remember, OOO and W are together in Movie Wars 2011.



You make it sound like I don't understand that they fudge up their continuity. I'd just like to know why. XD

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Well you know why. They want money and free das with the crossovers.
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Well you know why. They want money and free das with the crossovers.
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CCZilla said:
What's this? I watched a KR movie BEFORE you guys? And a non Director's Cut no less? ....Or am I just simply the first to comment on it?

W Forever:


So overall, definitely a fun movie although flawed. Hopefully, the Director's Cut will fix these issues. I'll be there when it comes out.


Watched it and pretty much this. ^

I also had a copuple gripes:


I really liked some bits of the script, tho.


Overall, despite pacing issues in the first half or more, it was a fun movie. Great action scenes especially, even tho the ending battle, tho it looked good, was ridiculous.

Now I'm thinking I should start OOO. Meh. We'll see.
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Now I'm thinking I should start OOO. Meh. We'll see.


Well, it's definitely average. Not terrible by any means (well okay, maybe a few means), just average like Kamen Rider Kiva was.
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I agree, CC. That last episode was very funny.

And don't forget that W will probably show up in that Den-O OOO movie. And since W is still very "fresh", it's possible they bring the actors back....
Feb 7, 2011 4:09 PM

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I agree, CC. That last episode was very funny.

And don't forget that W will probably show up in that Den-O OOO movie. And since W is still very "fresh", it's possible they bring the actors back....


Well, if it weren't for the fact that the two main leads have pretty much moved on to other work and seem to be somewhat successful, so I have a feeling this is going to turn out like Den-O, in that sooner rather than later, we won't see Shoutarou and Phil anymore, if they decide to continue W.
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m4rc0 said:
I agree, CC. That last episode was very funny.

And don't forget that W will probably show up in that Den-O OOO movie. And since W is still very "fresh", it's possible they bring the actors back....


Well, if it weren't for the fact that the two main leads have pretty much moved on to other work and seem to be somewhat successful, so I have a feeling this is going to turn out like Den-O, in that sooner rather than later, we won't see Shoutarou and Phil anymore, if they decide to continue W.


I dunno about that. Whereas Kamen Rider Den-O could arguably get away with it thanks to the Imagin cast, Kamen Rider W has no such characters to take the focus away from the leads.

I don't think W is going to be as long lasting of a franchise as Den-O has turned out to be, so it won't be an issue. For instance, I imagine the Kamen Rider W Returns V-Cinema thing is going to become just another annual tradition Toei does for the Kamen Rider programs (it's already becoming a tradition on the Super Sentai front, Goseiger's getting a V-Cinema special this April like Shinkenger did).

However, I don't think Shotaro and Phil are going to appear at all in Let's Go, Kamen Rider except maybe as a voice cameo. The crux of the focus for this film looks to be on OOO, Den-O, New Den-O, and the first three Riders. I personally don't even expect Kamen Rider Black/Black RX to cameo despite some of the rumors I've read.
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Well I don't expect them to continue W either, but my point is that it's not feasible for them to do so with the same cast.

W was fun, but never had the lasting potential as Den-O, even despite it's unique premise for the rider. I think that's the only reason it's still around.
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I think what's most impressive about W is how much content there was related to it as or within a year the series aired. Most of Den-O's content has come well after the main series ended. In W's case though, there was:

-Begins Night/Movie War 2010
-"WBX -W-Boiled Xtreme-" Music Video with the main cast
-W Forever the Movie
-Message for W/Movie War Core
-Hyper Battle Video
-Gaia Memory Encyclopedia Special
-Delusion Diaries
-Net Movies
-and W Returns.

That's a lot within one and a half years.
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Sorry for the double post, but the W Returns poster and trailer for Kamen Rider Accel are out!

Poster:


Trailer (contains spoilers for Movie War Core and possibly the special itself):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0fnBKBB2HMg&feature=player_embedded
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Well, the poster itself is a spoiler...
Feb 10, 2011 7:57 PM

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Well, the poster itself is a spoiler...


It's hard to count forms as spoilers anymore since, y'know, Toei and Bandai plaster them all over the place well before they're introduced within the series.
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Well, since we're all in need of a good laugh right now, Over-Time released the Kamen Rider W Net Series. I gave the whole thing a watch last night.

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War core.


War 2010 was far more entertaining and showed more important things in the plot. I was hoping for a good movie since A to Z was awesome, but this one was total crap.

I hope W returns isn't as bad.
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If War Core sucked, W returns Accel was awesome. It has everything I want to see in a KR, from awesome fights, to good plot and an interesting main character. The drama with Akiko was a bit unnecessary, but it didn't get in the way.



I have big expectations for W returns Eternal. And ShinkenPink plays the heroine XD

A shame they never gave Shota the chance to get as cool as Ryu was in this movie. Well, he did, both times when he was Joker, but for a very limited time.

How I wish that


Well, that belongs to the fanfic territory now.
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Watched the net movies. I agree with everything you wrote, CC.

I wish they had a kind of talk show with the actors like they did with the VAs from Den-O.

With Jinno, Makki and the villains too, of course. It could be very funny.
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Jul 18, 2011 10:46 PM

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A to Z Director's Cut:



I don't think you need to watch the DC version at all. It's not better in any way. If anything, the theatrical was simply more concise and thus better; nothing was particularly elaborated upon in the DC version which was not also clear in the theatrical.
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What the hell this part about Maria...

Guess I won't rewatch it then. Thnx fpr the info.
Jul 19, 2011 12:19 AM

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What the hell this part about Maria...

Guess I won't rewatch it then. Thnx fpr the info.


I forgot to say that if you enjoyed A to Z, you might like to watch it again for the added action.

I was just stating my theories about the ending. That bit at the and after the credits was VERY confusing. It didn't seem to belong to the movie at all and there's no clue about why it was added.

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Jul 19, 2011 12:48 AM

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Only reason I haven't watched this yet is because I actually plan on watching it with the Goseiger movie (which of course means starting from where I left off with that show). Sounds like the Director's Cut is at least worth a look, unlike some others which were just pointless.

*coughcoughKamenRiderBlademoviecoughcough*
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I don't remember what Shroud did after the events that take place in the movie...

CC, the only good thing in Epic on the Movie is Sayaka Isoyama.
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I don't remember what Shroud did after the events that take place in the movie...


Neither do I. I don't even remember where A to Z fits within the episodes, but I know it's near the end.

Which makes the scene that much more baffling because what's the point in adding it in so late?
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Eternal:



Man, it really does seem like W isn't going away any time soon. W and Den-O are like "permanent" Kamen Rider series. What's surprising is that Decade didn't make it there. But I guess that's what happens when you sacrifice plot and character and spend every episode pandering.
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Man, it really does seem like W isn't going away any time soon. W and Den-O are like "permanent" Kamen Rider series. What's surprising is that Decade didn't make it there. But I guess that's what happens when you sacrifice plot and character and spend every episode pandering.


Hell, Decade didn't even pander to its fans with any sort of competence. That entire series was a total failure.
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I would've liked if they insisted on Decade a bit more, especially in the War movies. It would make more sense if every rider had his own world.

Will we have more W? I don't know anything about it.
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So yeah, if it wasn't for Nobunaga's Ambition, I possibly could have really dug this year's Movie War. Hopefully Kamen Rider x Kamen Rider: Fourze and OOO Movie War MEGAMAX will finally get it right.
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I'm at 3rd Ep. and I got just one question:
Will that horrible bloody-irritating one-dimensional good-for-nothing girl - can't even remember her name and moreover, don't want to - yes, that one, the supposed "boss" - will she be still like that for the rest of the series? She already fucked up Shotaro's investigation and then immediately blamed it on him, for fuck's sake, and if she will not develop at least some character along with usefulness, I don't want to waste time on that series.
There is such thing as shit taste. Only idiots think that every "work of art" should have the same value.

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I'm at 3rd Ep. and I got just one question:
Will that horrible bloody-irritating one-dimensional good-for-nothing girl - can't even remember her name and moreover, don't want to - yes, that one, the supposed "boss" - will she be still like that for the rest of the series? She already fucked up Shotaro's investigation and then immediately blamed it on him, for fuck's sake, and if she will not develop at least some character along with usefulness, I don't want to waste time on that series.


Yes, yes she will stay that way. I did get used to her though, and I think the rest of the series deserves a watch. You could do what I do: skip the scenes with characters you despise.
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Thanks for quick response, it's already late, I'm on 44th Episode. +) 0ther people kind of pushed me to continue.
Can not get used to her, and moreover, don't want to. Sadly I'm not able to skip/FF scenes, done it only for 4th Episode and did not liked how it felt.
As I understand, this club is kind of half-dead now, isn't it?
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