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Dec 2, 2014 11:18 AM

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Don't worry Jack, I got the key and already PM'd Zymf to use it on the door.

Bragy, how do you manage to keep your forum post count at zero despite obviously posting here?
Dec 2, 2014 11:30 AM

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Xiaraith said:
Don't worry Jack, I got the key and already PM'd Zymf to use it on the door.

Bragy, how do you manage to keep your forum post count at zero despite obviously posting here?


I think posting in the game foum/forum games doesn't count towards your post.
Dec 2, 2014 11:39 AM

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Ah ahaha ^^
It's my first time I have ever posted in the forum games, so it's probably true.
Dec 2, 2014 11:40 AM

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Xiaraith said:
Ah ahaha ^^
It's my first time I have ever posted in the forum games, so it's probably true.


Do you have any ideas on who would have stolen the knife? Or is Folie lieing about the knife being stolen?
Dec 2, 2014 11:56 AM

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No idea, sorry. Even if certain people in this game had evil intentions in mind, I can't even those epople >.<
Dec 2, 2014 12:00 PM

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From the information we have, we just can't tell. I'm really interested if Folie did get an item discription.
Dec 2, 2014 12:07 PM

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Bragy said:
From the information we have, we just can't tell. I'm really interested if Folie did get an item discription.


Rules says that when you pick up an item you get a description of it.

So Folie should have definitely gotten a description.
Dec 2, 2014 12:19 PM

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When I got the key, there was a clear description about its possible uses, which are opening locked doors or locked containers.
Dec 2, 2014 12:31 PM

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I have the knife now,
I stole it from folie
Dec 2, 2014 12:34 PM

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also,
I am going to enter
495 as the answer, People agree with that?
Dec 2, 2014 12:43 PM

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I did already enter it Soda, it was a couple of minutes ago, just to make sure it would be before the update. But you can also send it, better safe than sorry.
Dec 2, 2014 12:44 PM

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I think you got this
Dec 2, 2014 12:54 PM

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I would be really surprised if 495 wasn't the answer to your riddle...
Dec 2, 2014 1:00 PM

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5 days left until the ship sinks!


After Ixalions death, people began suspecting eachother. Who was the killer, and who took his Bracelet?

After having been split up into 2 groups, everyone finally meet up in the Library

Map:



Current player Locations:
Dec 2, 2014 1:21 PM

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I know this type of riddle and the answer to it, so I let the guys unaware of its mechanics try to solve it for now ~
Dec 2, 2014 1:22 PM

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Damn it,
Just solve it
Dec 2, 2014 1:22 PM

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Xiaraith said:
I know this type of riddle and the answer to it, so I let the guys unaware of its mechanics try to solve it ~


Oh fun it does sound familiar though
Dec 2, 2014 1:22 PM

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Well, i would say 19 days.
Dec 2, 2014 1:24 PM

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I will be back later to investigate it,
Dec 2, 2014 1:29 PM

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Bragy said:
Well, i would say 19 days.


Part of me thinks this is a trick question since it says they ship only takes people who can confirm their own eye color the ship crew telling them one person has brown eyes would not help any one person to confirm their eye color since they can't ask each other unless I am missing something.

That aside the answer could maybe be 1 day if they all claimed it was themselves who had brown eyes in desperation to get off the island. Since the crew let anyone on the ship who says their own eye color.
Dec 2, 2014 1:38 PM

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I can assure you guys that this is not a trick question.
Dec 2, 2014 1:58 PM

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I think its 0
Dec 2, 2014 1:59 PM

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Did we all get the same riddle?
Dec 2, 2014 2:01 PM

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And Ok it looks like Soda has the knife now.

What's the description of the knife?

And also, when did you steal it Soda?

Oh and like my plan I tried to steal from Soda but it was already stolen.

Folie did you try to steal from Folie as my plan said?

I think a problem could be that the real killer would try to steal from Soda...
Dec 2, 2014 2:02 PM

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Everybody on the island is a newb and wanted to go home
Dec 2, 2014 2:22 PM

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Silly me, I did not notice that we were all in the library.
Dec 2, 2014 2:36 PM

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There must be a logical solution to this riddle.
Dec 2, 2014 4:29 PM

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Soren333 said:
There must be a logical solution to this riddle.


Well Xia knows the answer if we don't figure it out which takes pressure off. But solving stuff like this is fun and you are right they will be a logical solution
Dec 2, 2014 4:51 PM

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Soren333 said:
And Ok it looks like Soda has the knife now.

What's the description of the knife?

And also, when did you steal it Soda?

Oh and like my plan I tried to steal from Soda but it was already stolen.

Folie did you try to steal from Folie as my plan said?

I think a problem could be that the real killer would try to steal from Soda...

I got it from folie like our plan said,
But you went and made your own plan,
But now we are All in the same room the knife could go to anybody unless someone we trust can get the knife without the vast majority knowing who has it
Dec 2, 2014 5:00 PM

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"they were only allowed to leave if they with 100% certainty knew what their own eye color was."

"There was no way the villagers could check their own eye color."

So they can't really be 100% sure that they have brown eyes, right? I think I agree with the answer 0.
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Dec 2, 2014 5:02 PM

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Yume said:
"they were only allowed to leave if they with 100% certainty knew what their own eye color was."

"There was no way the villagers could check their own eye color."

So they can't really be 100% sure that they have brown eyes, right? I think I agree with the answer 0.


I was thinking that but Xia seems to know the answer and says it is not a trick question which it would be if answer was 0 imo.
Dec 2, 2014 5:16 PM

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we can safely say that it isn't zero because of Xia,
But we need to know, how many days had passed before the boat visited the island the first time
Dec 2, 2014 5:38 PM

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SodaWithYoda said:
Soren333 said:
And Ok it looks like Soda has the knife now.

What's the description of the knife?

And also, when did you steal it Soda?

Oh and like my plan I tried to steal from Soda but it was already stolen.

Folie did you try to steal from Folie as my plan said?

I think a problem could be that the real killer would try to steal from Soda...

I got it from folie like our plan said,
But you went and made your own plan,
But now we are All in the same room the knife could go to anybody unless someone we trust can get the knife without the vast majority knowing who has it


But Folie said it was already stolen in the phase that you told me about that plan.

Unless stealing items doesn't update at phase change but can in fact occur at the instant the pm to steal item is sent?
Dec 2, 2014 5:46 PM

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Soren333 said:
SodaWithYoda said:

I got it from folie like our plan said,
But you went and made your own plan,
But now we are All in the same room the knife could go to anybody unless someone we trust can get the knife without the vast majority knowing who has it


But Folie said it was already stolen in the phase that you told me about that plan.

Unless stealing items doesn't update at phase change but can in fact occur at the instant the pm to steal item is sent?

I guess that could be a possibility
In that case someone may already have the knife that I stole
Dec 2, 2014 5:58 PM

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SodaWithYoda said:
Soren333 said:


But Folie said it was already stolen in the phase that you told me about that plan.

Unless stealing items doesn't update at phase change but can in fact occur at the instant the pm to steal item is sent?

I guess that could be a possibility
In that case someone may already have the knife that I stole


That would be worrying.

The real killer could just steal the knife again and make kills.

By the way, can you post the descripion of the knife please?
Dec 2, 2014 6:09 PM

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Oh yea forgot that,
You can kill someone everyday is the description of the knife,
Dec 3, 2014 1:08 AM

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too much to catch up again >.< So i skimmed through.

To answer Soren, nope I didn't get the knife description o.O'
Soda pls, r u suuuure u stole it from me?
So the theory is either I nvr got the knife in the first place or I've been lying.
Anyway, if we want to find the killer, we shouldn't be stealing the knife but the bracelet instead for only the killer would have known that he can pick up Ixalion's bracelet after he died. Whoever has the bracelet no.8 is the killer.
That being said, I tried to steal bracelet from Soren yesterday but he dun have it so he's not the one i think ~

Regarding the challenge, I think it would be 0 or 10 logically thinking. Because every villagers would be able to know about the others' eyes colour and would either assume that He is not the one or assume everyone has the same colour. Either way how is one to know 100%
But mathematically .... ah I've no idea abt that xD

Soren333 said:

Unless stealing items doesn't update at phase change but can in fact occur at the instant the pm to steal item is sent?

Stealing only happens at phase end. At least I only got updated on my fail steal when day ends o.O

The question tho is what happens if two steals happens on the same day and the original person tried to steal it back from the last >.<
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Dec 3, 2014 1:13 AM

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I think Xia should tell us the answer if he knows something.. I thought it was 0 as well. How can you 100% confirm that you have brown eyes even though you cannot see yourself. Even if you assume you do because eveyone else does, you would not be 100% positive that you also have brown eyes.
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Dec 3, 2014 1:34 AM

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The main issue of this riddle is not the fact that a villager knows that there's at least one brown eyed villager amongst them, but the fact that all villagers know that everyone else knows that there's at least one brown eyed villager amongst them.
I do admit that the riddle needs a little bit more effort to be solved. I'll PM Zymf my solution anyway, but discussing the riddle here for now provides us with more fun ~
Dec 3, 2014 1:41 AM

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I am relying on xia here
xD
Dec 3, 2014 4:15 AM

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LOL. So after probing around, I figure the puzzle actually DO have an answer xD
Anyway, we don't all needa answer rite ~
Dec 3, 2014 4:41 AM

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ONly one of us needs to answer correctly
Dec 3, 2014 6:36 AM

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Yume said:
"they were only allowed to leave if they with 100% certainty knew what their own eye color was."

"There was no way the villagers could check their own eye color."

So they can't really be 100% sure that they have brown eyes, right? I think I agree with the answer 0.


Maybe this leads us to the answer. They can be sure to have brown eyes, because they don't know xD. Let's say villager -A- now has the information given by the ship. He doesn't know if he has brown eyes. But he knows that at least 1 villager has them. It's the same for all other villagers, so it would be logical if no one went on the ship. And because no one would go on the first day, villager -A- should know that all of them have the same doubt as him, which makes him the one with the brown eyes.

I'm sorry, i think i didn't write it so that anyone would understand my thought :D. But if I follow through with it, They would need 1 day to confirm and then another day to go on the ship. So i'll change my answer to 2 days. Or 11 if only one at a time could go on the ship.
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A little for todays riddle: Everyone on the island is super smart, so if there is a way for them to know, they'll know ^^

... And they also know that everyone else on the island is super smart :P
Dec 3, 2014 7:19 AM

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SodaWithYoda said:
Soren333 said:


But Folie said it was already stolen in the phase that you told me about that plan.

Unless stealing items doesn't update at phase change but can in fact occur at the instant the pm to steal item is sent?

I guess that could be a possibility
In that case someone may already have the knife that I stole


Nope. Zymf said stolen items are updated on phase change.

Someone is lieing here.
Dec 3, 2014 7:27 AM

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Screw the knife mystery.

Can we just not kill please?
Dec 3, 2014 7:42 AM

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The riddle states that villagers couldn’t talk or in any way communicate with each other. So how would they communicate to the ship that came everyday that they have worked it out?
Dec 3, 2014 8:25 AM

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By their aura
Dec 3, 2014 8:28 AM

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And it says that a ship comes and tells the villagers.

How can a ship speak?

Please Zymf.
Dec 3, 2014 8:38 AM

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Because they're in a magical realm of magic
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