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ukonkivi said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. Other then the fact that it is kind of in the same metaverse.I really wish people wouldn't lie to me to try to get me to watch Umineko no Naku Koro ni. That was my major reason for giving this thing a go. Dangit, I want more Higger.;_; Although, there is the possibility that Ryukishi07 MIGHT cross them over at some point. But it has yet to happen. ukonkivi said: That was not just some forth wall breaking commentary. It really wasn't breaking the forth wall at all. In fact, that single scene just set up the primary plot line for the entire rest of the series. :PIf all that was, was some fourth wall breaking commentary, I am going to be awfully ticked. |
DrZedAug 2, 2009 5:17 PM
Zedrane said: ukonkivi said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. Other then the fact that it is kind of in the same metaverse.I really wish people wouldn't lie to me to try to get me to watch Umineko no Naku Koro ni. That was my major reason for giving this thing a go. Dangit, I want more Higger.;_; Although, there is the possibility that Ryukishi07 MIGHT cross them over at some point. But it has yet to happen. ukonkivi said: That was not just some forth wall breaking commentary. It really wasn't breaking the forth wall at all. In fact, that single scene just set up the primary plot line for the entire rest of the series. :PIf all that was, was some fourth wall breaking commentary, I am going to be awfully ticked. In the game, they make so many small references to Higurashi that it's laughable. Not sure if this is going to happen, but one of the characters seemed to have a shirt that said "Tomitake Flash". Heh. |
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titanguy654 said: In the game, they make so many small references to Higurashi that it's laughable. Not sure if this is going to happen, but one of the characters seemed to have a shirt that said "Tomitake Flash". Heh. Don't worry, any tiny reference to Higurashi will be included, and probably expanded on, by DEEN. |
| Actually, they already skipped one of the references to Higurashi. |
Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. I've already heard that several times already. Stop rubbing in the disappointment.:/ Y'all are gonna make me miss Higurashi no Naku Koro ni even worse. |
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Zedrane said: Actually, they already skipped one of the references to Higurashi. Well, my post was mostly sarcastic, considering how much DEEN loves to whore out their first successful series. ;) ukonkivi said: Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. I've already heard that several times already. Stop rubbing in the disappointment.:/ Y'all are gonna make me miss Higurashi no Naku Koro ni even worse. It's not COMPLETELY unconnected to Higurashi. You find out why the events of Higurashi transpired in the first place later on in Umineko. |
Foggle said: Zedrane said: Actually, they already skipped one of the references to Higurashi. Well, my post was mostly sarcastic, considering how much DEEN loves to whore out their first successful series. ;) ukonkivi said: Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. I've already heard that several times already. Stop rubbing in the disappointment.:/ Y'all are gonna make me miss Higurashi no Naku Koro ni even worse. It's not COMPLETELY unconnected to Higurashi. You find out why the events of Higurashi transpired in the first place later on in Umineko. They've already explained that. |
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MarthX said: Foggle said: Zedrane said: Actually, they already skipped one of the references to Higurashi. Well, my post was mostly sarcastic, considering how much DEEN loves to whore out their first successful series. ;) ukonkivi said: Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. I've already heard that several times already. Stop rubbing in the disappointment.:/ Y'all are gonna make me miss Higurashi no Naku Koro ni even worse. It's not COMPLETELY unconnected to Higurashi. You find out why the events of Higurashi transpired in the first place later on in Umineko. They've already explained that. Uh, not in the anime. That scenes not until Lambadelta comes into play. P.S. "I'm... SUPER PAPER!" Hehehe. Hope they keep that line. :D |
DrZedAug 2, 2009 7:31 PM
Zedrane said: MarthX said: Foggle said: Zedrane said: Actually, they already skipped one of the references to Higurashi. Well, my post was mostly sarcastic, considering how much DEEN loves to whore out their first successful series. ;) ukonkivi said: Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. I've already heard that several times already. Stop rubbing in the disappointment.:/ Y'all are gonna make me miss Higurashi no Naku Koro ni even worse. It's not COMPLETELY unconnected to Higurashi. You find out why the events of Higurashi transpired in the first place later on in Umineko. They've already explained that. Uh, not in the anime. That scenes not until Lambadelta comes into play. P.S. "I'm... SUPER PAPER!" Hehehe. Hope they keep that line. :D They've already had the discussion about Bern's endurance battle against Lambdadelta and how she only won because Lambda got tired of it. The next party just talks about it a little more. When episode 1 was released, game players already connected the dots that Lambdadelta equals 34. |
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MarthX said: They've already had the discussion about Bern's endurance battle against Lambdadelta and how she only won because Lambda got tired of it. The next party just talks about it a little more. When episode 1 was released, game players already connected the dots that Lambdadelta equals 34. I guess. But it doesn't become perfectly clear until Lambadelta's talk with Bern-sama. |
| Wait...how does Lambdadelta equal 34? |
GarLogan78 said: Wait...how does Lambdadelta equal 34? Lambda = 3 Delta = 4 |
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| Is this somehow possible to understand if I haven't played the game? XD I'm confused. But I like it :D |
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Cenedess said: Is this somehow possible to understand if I haven't played the game? XD I'm confused. But I like it :D It's supposed to be confusing right now. You'd just be slightly less confused if you finished the first game. |
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MarthX said: Cenedess said: Is this somehow possible to understand if I haven't played the game? XD I'm confused. But I like it :D It's supposed to be confusing right now. You'd just be slightly less confused if you finished the first game. Nah, I realise it's an anime that dosn't give you all the answers right away. So I don't even try thinking about it, I just watch and wait for the plot to become clear :D |
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| More information. Stuff that was left out in the anime After the clock strikes midnight and the screen goes to black, there's an end roll. Here's the full end roll http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQcI0NYKG50 Text only version In the visual novel you see the word "Purgatorio" before the tea party starts (scene where everyone is alive again and discusses how they met a bad end etc) That's the extra bit of info the game has, that might make it less confusing. |
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| Battler, Beatrice... A boy who explains everything with human tricks... A women who explains every thing with her magic... A meeting that was never meant to happen. |
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| at first 20 minutes:"only this D8 ? where's mai bomb ?" after a couple minutes:"ohh bern-sama :D" figures to new story :D |
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inusarukiji1 said: I'm sorry, my English skill is poor. Then you might not like Bern! |
| I'm pretty confused... but Rika! Or sorta like Rika. Definitely the same voice actress. |
| Great episode and the pacing was key to this! Reading all of these posts in the forum, helped me in understanding it a lot. xD Like the whole 'purgatory' thingie and what not. I root for Battler to try and figure out how a human could commit these murders. |
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| lol what the hell, we're now dealing with a bunch of ghosts? I don't know but I think I finally got interested for once. |
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inusarukiji1 said: I'm sorry, my English skill is poor. And so is your taste... I couldn't resist. It was just begging me to say it. It would've bugged me all day if I didn't. |
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| Battler being defiant until the end and apparently 'demoned away'. Bernkastel appears, but no red wine? :) |
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Khmal said: BakaOnna said: Zedrane said: Bern's VN model actually has boobs. For some reason they took them away in the anime and made her completely flat chested. :/ Well, Maria also did as well. I'm pretty sure that's not how it's supposed to be. Then again, it's Ryuukishi's art we're talking about here. Loved this episode. Great pacing, great voice acting, great music and use of bgms and it just felt really good. Anyway, preview for II-I: http://umineko.tv/web/main/onair/index.html WTF did i just see Marisa, Reimu, Sakuya, Aya, and Alice in that preview?? what the hell do they have to do with umineko ? o.O Subbed version http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CiLPYgNghD4 |
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| I think I have an idea of the whole thing: This is getting good! On a side note, no matter how elegant and awesome she is, I refuse to accept the witch. :~P |
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Japayuki said: I'm pretty confused... but Rika! Or sorta like Rika. Definitely the same voice actress. My hypothesis: Anyway, that's just my theory. |
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Zedrane said: Umineko is completly unconnected to Higurashi. Lol. |
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| wow...i have completely no idea what the posts above are talking about...lol, guess i came to the wrong thread (umineko ep5?) |
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| Lol, it's because at the end of the episode a character appears (the witch Bernkastel) that has already been seen in another anime before: Higurashi no Nakukoro ni. |
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| A good episode very interesting so loving this anime. Bernkastel appearance was great <3 I have been waiting on her for a while. One of the best moments of the episode was Bern's smile. |
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| Oh look. How nice that the official Umineko site is giving the anime-watchers info on the characters' time of death. http://umineko.tv/web/main/teaparty/ep1.html |
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| This is confusing like crazy! So, is Battler dead and in some weird realm created by the witch? Or is he alive and just in an illusion? And what about it stating the case was never solved, then the message in the bottle which Maria worte which contained the truth? And this is based on a video game? Same title? Cause after reading the first couple pages it seems most of the posters have played the game, read the manga, or saw some other anime that had some of the characters. But for someone like me who started watching it cause of one of the users on my friend list is watching it and it catching my eye, this is nothing but confusing and the posts on the first couple pages don't help much at all. |
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mangastar said: This is confusing like crazy! So, is Battler dead and in some weird realm created by the witch? Or is he alive and just in an illusion? And what about it stating the case was never solved, then the message in the bottle which Maria worte which contained the truth? And this is based on a video game? Same title? Cause after reading the first couple pages it seems most of the posters have played the game, read the manga, or saw some other anime that had some of the characters. But for someone like me who started watching it cause of one of the users on my friend list is watching it and it catching my eye, this is nothing but confusing and the posts on the first couple pages don't help much at all. Umineko will be confusing as hell for this entire season. In fact it gets around ten times more confusing. The next season will clear out all of the confusion. Yes, Umineko is based off of a Sound Novel of the same title. A very good one might I add. There is also a manga but it is actually behind the anime. And there is an anime that comes before it in the same metaverse called Higurashi no Naku Koro ni but you do not have to watch it first since nothing at all carries over from it into Umineko. |
| Man this is a good "wat" episode and ill have to rewatch it, that and play the game hopefully it will shed some light on just what is happening |
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| Beatrice is smoking hot. That is all ^_^ |
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| Ooooooooooooooooooooooooh, that's nice MarthX. That covers the end roll and shows that those scenes took place in the Meta World. |
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| The prime minister finally has a match.. Battler is possibly the most stubborn person in the world, his existence annoys me a great deal. Not just that the guy refuses to accept reality, he comes up with a bunch of excuses which makes no sense to argue it off. Not believing in witches, causing the deaths of his loved ones over a non-sensical challenge of belief. Battler is the worst!! I got to say.. I hate Battler. |
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Kira01 said: The prime minister finally has a match.. Battler is possibly the most stubborn person in the world, his existence annoys me a great deal. Not just that the guy refuses to accept reality, he comes up with a bunch of excuses which makes no sense to argue it off. Not believing in witches, causing the deaths of his loved ones over a non-sensical challenge of belief. Battler is the worst!! I got to say.. I hate Battler. OBJECTION! This... I dunno... you´re kinda right^^ |
| I like Battler. I´m excited whether he´s able to win against the witch and prove that Phoenix Wright is his bro. |
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