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Nov 26, 2016 9:10 AM
#351
_Claire_ said: +1Gruffin said: aa-dono said: Why is grave in your maybe scumread as well? Do I get this right? - You're scumreading be based on my RNG talk? Grave's a maybe because the direction her votes are going in is giving me a weird vibe. :| I'll go more into it soon. Yes, I'm scumreading you because of your RNG talk. There's plenty else to suspect people for, so why are you focusing on RNG? Why are we focusing on talk that is around the RVS phase? Though you're not pressuring me despite saying you wanted to talk to me is also a concern. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:11 AM
#352
_Claire_ said: Your last sentence is my mind set. Why should any off is blindly follow a plan that hasn't been layed out in any detail? Where is the townie mindset in that? It's to vague is others want to try it do be out but I'm not going to blindly follow when there isn't anything compelling about "I'm trying something" shit were all trying something.logic340 said: Gruffin said: Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:12 AM
#353
aa-dono said: _Claire_ said: +1Gruffin said: aa-dono said: Why is grave in your maybe scumread as well? Do I get this right? - You're scumreading be based on my RNG talk? Grave's a maybe because the direction her votes are going in is giving me a weird vibe. :| I'll go more into it soon. Yes, I'm scumreading you because of your RNG talk. There's plenty else to suspect people for, so why are you focusing on RNG? Why are we focusing on talk that is around the RVS phase? Though you're not pressuring me despite saying you wanted to talk to me is also a concern. With all this pressure going on towards you I am alr confused enough. I feel like I am the only one who is not understanding the logic behind your train. RVS phase was when everyone was being.. you know, "friendly" as I might say. People say you were joking about him getting scum or sth by RNG, but why nobody says anything about him omgus-vote you (and first omgusvote... wait, i think he ever omgus-voted you in the past. Was it the game where you were arsonist and he was town?) |
Nov 26, 2016 9:12 AM
#354
Only caught up to this post. ;o; This is so chaotic. aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I do those chants all the time :PI don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. And I didn't say "YAY I'm town" in any game. I used the RNG stuff to ask Soren. And then grave used that back on me. Gruffin said: Hmmm I don't think it was weird though. Soren did omgus even though he said he wasn't. I don't see much to it since it was still RVS at the time, but if you're gonna use this point, then Claire should also be in your scumread, since both she and grave found that vote to be odd.Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. No, I wasn't accusing you of doing it. I was saying that you're accusing certain players based on RNG, but ignoring others. Now you're telling me to suspect Claire? I'm reserving judgement on Claire for now to see where their experiment goes. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:13 AM
#355
Nov 26, 2016 9:14 AM
#356
aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I have a history of avoiding Soren in games because he's scary :')aa-dono said: grave_robber said: It wasn't random if I purposely chose to vote for him out of everyone else. I dared vote for him with that reason because we were in RVS stage.aa-dono said: I see. Though Ruu is right, whether that was her observation or just question, I was calling Soren scum. It was RVS, so it was based on non-game (maybe a little -since RNG) reason, but it's still a reason. @_Claire_ @grave_robber What about Soren OMGUS vote that was off? Edit: Quote bubble Hold on a minute there, you admit that wasn't an RVS vote? You actually called soren scum? Based on RNG? How ould you even know how he got? If I know what he got, I wouldn't ask? o.o '<_' That...Doesn't sound right. Why did you "dare" to vote him? It's not as if you knew his alignment unless you were scum. Is that really the only reason you suspect him? Okay, I'll accept that answer. But can you lay out your reasons for suspecting him please? |
Nov 26, 2016 9:14 AM
#357
logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Your last sentence is my mind set. Why should any off is blindly follow a plan that hasn't been layed out in any detail? Where is the townie mindset in that? It's to vague is others want to try it do be out but I'm not going to blindly follow when there isn't anything compelling about "I'm trying something" shit were all trying something.logic340 said: Gruffin said: without Claire saying anything about what this experiment could be a theory I guess we should call it. I don't like just throwing my vote behind something that I have no idea what it is (note duo I feel town votes should move do easily) but if it's a scum experiment to kill a town and get another one Lynch for just following along? These are the things that I think about when I look at what's going on which is why I can't accept Kit's reasoning for just going along blindly.Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. I dont see you trying something. Only seeing you replying on stuffs without anything new. Also reading everyone as neutral seems like scummish move to me because one of my ol' scum buddy did it in the past to avoid being linked to people. And nono, just saying. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:14 AM
#358
Well, Claire is right on one thing. Jack's not getting lynched today :( Vote Change: Gruffin Your reads doesn't match up a lot of things. I'll highlight them in a bit. Or people can just read your reads and see what I meant :/ |
Nov 26, 2016 9:14 AM
#359
grave_robber said: Sleeping, catching up, wishing I woke up earlier :D I don't know how I'm going to catch up in the next 40 minutes if I keep responding to things @_@Where are @logic340 and @Kit? This is unlike you guys, please post more. @Rinto-kun, where art thou? |
Nov 26, 2016 9:15 AM
#360
_Claire_ said: All I remember in that game was you saying "She's the arsonist!". I don't remember everything else since I'm salty over it :Paa-dono said: _Claire_ said: Gruffin said: aa-dono said: Why is grave in your maybe scumread as well? Do I get this right? - You're scumreading be based on my RNG talk? Grave's a maybe because the direction her votes are going in is giving me a weird vibe. :| I'll go more into it soon. Yes, I'm scumreading you because of your RNG talk. There's plenty else to suspect people for, so why are you focusing on RNG? Why are we focusing on talk that is around the RVS phase? Though you're not pressuring me despite saying you wanted to talk to me is also a concern. With all this pressure going on towards you I am alr confused enough. I feel like I am the only one who is not understanding the logic behind your train. RVS phase was when everyone was being.. you know, "friendly" as I might say. People say you were joking about him getting scum or sth by RNG, but why nobody says anything about him omgus-vote you (and first omgusvote... wait, i think he ever omgus-voted you in the past. Was it the game where you were arsonist and he was town?) |
Nov 26, 2016 9:15 AM
#361
_Claire_ said: Gruffin said: aa-dono said: Why is grave in your maybe scumread as well? Do I get this right? - You're scumreading be based on my RNG talk? Grave's a maybe because the direction her votes are going in is giving me a weird vibe. :| I'll go more into it soon. Yes, I'm scumreading you because of your RNG talk. There's plenty else to suspect people for, so why are you focusing on RNG? Why are we focusing on talk that is around the RVS phase? Also I find it a bit weird that people are thinking aa-dono is "bad" and "worth voting" but not Soren. Soren was the one omgus-voting her.. isnt he more, lets say, "funny"? I still dont understand all this voting her because of her RNG talk. What is going on? I think it's fine to talk about RVS, but I'm not really scum-reading her either. She has been asking people questions, has been active and to me it looks like she's scum-hunting. Nothing about her screams scum to me. logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Your last sentence is my mind set. Why should any off is blindly follow a plan that hasn't been layed out in any detail? Where is the townie mindset in that? It's to vague is others want to try it do be out but I'm not going to blindly follow when there isn't anything compelling about "I'm trying something" shit were all trying something.logic340 said: Gruffin said: without Claire saying anything about what this experiment could be a theory I guess we should call it. I don't like just throwing my vote behind something that I have no idea what it is (note duo I feel town votes should move do easily) but if it's a scum experiment to kill a town and get another one Lynch for just following along? These are the things that I think about when I look at what's going on which is why I can't accept Kit's reasoning for just going along blindly.Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. +1 @_Claire_ Can you reply to this? |
Nov 26, 2016 9:16 AM
#362
~Vote Count 1.4~ aa-dono(4) // Soren, Jackrito, Gruffin, grave_robber grrr(3) // Ruu, _Claire_, Kit _Claire_(2) // Luna Jackrito(1) // grrr Luna(1) // Rinto-kun Soren(1) // coromandel Kit(1) // logic340 _Claire_(1) // Luna grave_robber(1) // Phraze Gruffin(1) // aa-dono Not voting: ~ TIMER |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:16 AM
#363
grave_robber said: even though what I added maybe not have had the most substance to it it was still my own personal opinion nothing anybody gave me and nothing that I just copy and pasted. Again power outages in my local area (St. Thomas USVI) have hampered my ability to post as stated last night. When power can back I made a few posts and went to bed. As I got into reading today I got called into work. I'm here now (while at work) what more do you want from me?? Real life sucks right now but I'm making the most of it.Ruu said: I keep my RVS because I haven't found any possible scums yet. Grrr always strikes me as scummy and I'm curious about Claire's theory. If he flips town I will have to reevaluate my read on Claire to make sure that her idea of lynching grrr was not scummy but a bad call But why are you trusting Claire? What makes you think she's town or right in her theory which she didn't share? Why risk it if you can prod other people or grr yourself and then vote for him or the people you suspect? This is...eh Ruu said: _Claire_ said: Ruu said: I keep my RVS because I haven't found any possible scums yet. Grrr always strikes me as scummy and I'm curious about Claire's theory. If he flips town I will have to reevaluate my read on Claire to make sure that her idea of lynching grrr was not scummy but a bad call What? So whether grrr is town/not is indicative if I am "scummy" or not? If I know who grrr is I wont be town lol. aa-dono said: Ruu said: So you've already decided that Claire's town?I keep my RVS because I haven't found any possible scums yet. Grrr always strikes me as scummy and I'm curious about Claire's theory. If he flips town I will have to reevaluate my read on Claire to make sure that her idea of lynching grrr was not scummy but a bad call No, that's why I said I wanted to make sure it was a BAD READ. I've been there so I know that when you push a lynch on a townie people will automatically assume you are scum. For now you are more town that scum to me. Depending on grrr flip I may change my mind. So you want to lynch a townie because you think another townie is reading them wrong? and based on that you will decide of the latter is indeed townie or not? What? This is a very assumption, this makes me want to vote for you tbh. logic340 said: I get such different things from you every game. Last game I was a lurker now I am not sharing my opinion what is between us? I hope your not mad at me this is a new game :) lets make nice and catch scum together this time. But you really are just posting nothing of substance this game Soren said: grave_robber said: So, what's everyone's favorite color? *random question of the day* Boredom, trying to get the ball rolling. Though I have an other motive =3 What's the reason for your prediction? You totally ignored that. Soren said: Gruffin said: grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Because I disagree. Here's why grave_robber said: Who's ready to lynch some mafia? =D This question appears to be doing something because aa-dono wished for town in the sign up thread. grave_robber said: But you asked for both town and mafia roles =O grave_robber said: @Jackrito, last time we played you said you would change the lurky playstyle, did that happen? grave_robber said: So, what's everyone's favorite color? *random question of the day* Oh hell no! 1) So when you and your buddy lucian ask it, it's cool but if I ask it, it's not? Double standards much? for the record, that wasn't meant to get reads on people, it was just a hello. But you getting bent out f shape about it when you yourself have used it and similar techniques makes me think you're freaking out because you're mafia. 2) aa-dono said she wanted to be both town AND mafia. (She said town for experience and mafia so she could win) The point is that she was going after you for a signup post and I wanted her to get a taste of it. 3) it's a secret, grave tactics. See above post for reply. You're trying to hard to go at me. Is it because I said you and aa-dono could be bad? |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:17 AM
#364
Gruffin said: Only caught up to this post. ;o; This is so chaotic. aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. And I didn't say "YAY I'm town" in any game. I used the RNG stuff to ask Soren. And then grave used that back on me. Gruffin said: Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. No, I wasn't accusing you of doing it. I was saying that you're accusing certain players based on RNG, but ignoring others. Now you're telling me to suspect Claire? I'm reserving judgement on Claire for now to see where their experiment goes. I think people are misunderstanding aa-dono, I will let her explain but -- wasn't she kind of joking? Its like me and my friend saying "hah, you are scum!" just because I know from experience that he gets scum-role a lot.. @greenwillow a VC please? Phraze said: Unvote. Vote: grave_robber posts feel like triggering enmity between parties and not like problem solving. @Gruffin good luck reading over. should be handy in the future no matter what I flip Not problem solving? Hm... Aren't you refering to yourself? I found Grave to be quite critical in her thinking in this game, and I have trouble understanding you :/ |
Nov 26, 2016 9:17 AM
#365
_Claire_ said: Gruffin said: Only caught up to this post. ;o; This is so chaotic. aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I do those chants all the time :PI don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. And I didn't say "YAY I'm town" in any game. I used the RNG stuff to ask Soren. And then grave used that back on me. Gruffin said: Hmmm I don't think it was weird though. Soren did omgus even though he said he wasn't. I don't see much to it since it was still RVS at the time, but if you're gonna use this point, then Claire should also be in your scumread, since both she and grave found that vote to be odd.Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. No, I wasn't accusing you of doing it. I was saying that you're accusing certain players based on RNG, but ignoring others. Now you're telling me to suspect Claire? I'm reserving judgement on Claire for now to see where their experiment goes. I think people are misunderstanding aa-dono, I will let her explain but -- wasn't she kind of joking? Its like me and my friend saying "hah, you are scum!" just because I know from experience that he gets scum-role a lot.. @greenwillow a VC please? Phraze said: Unvote. Vote: grave_robber posts feel like triggering enmity between parties and not like problem solving. @Gruffin good luck reading over. should be handy in the future no matter what I flip Not problem solving? Hm... Aren't you refering to yourself? I found Grave to be quite critical in her thinking in this game, and I have trouble understanding you :/ SoulEaterQUEEN said: vote count in progress |
Nov 26, 2016 9:17 AM
#366
aa-dono said: Well, Claire is right on one thing. Jack's not getting lynched today :( Vote Change: Gruffin Your reads doesn't match up a lot of things. I'll highlight them in a bit. Or people can just read your reads and see what I meant :/ If Gruffin is scum I would lynch Grave next because of their interactions, and how he started to doubt Grave once I pointed it out. Still not sure if I want to lynch him today though, it is not the worst choice though. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:18 AM
#367
coromandel said: Gruffin said: coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. Not sure what to think of this post. You're not scum-reading him for his vote, but you thought what he did was wrong. But that is what most people do in mafia games - try to look for suspicious behavior and vote accordingly. Sometimes 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy. And he voted pretty much at the start of the game, so I don't see what was so dangerous about his scum read on Jack. I'm just wary about the scumteam this time around using a similar strategy that my team used in my last game. Sure, 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy, but it's only D1 and we could get off to a bad start that way. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:19 AM
#368
Gruffin said: I voted him during RVS. There wasn't anything analytical about it.aa-dono said: Gruffin said: aa-dono said: grave_robber said: It wasn't random if I purposely chose to vote for him out of everyone else. I dared vote for him with that reason because we were in RVS stage.aa-dono said: I see. Though Ruu is right, whether that was her observation or just question, I was calling Soren scum. It was RVS, so it was based on non-game (maybe a little -since RNG) reason, but it's still a reason. @_Claire_ @grave_robber What about Soren OMGUS vote that was off? Edit: Quote bubble Hold on a minute there, you admit that wasn't an RVS vote? You actually called soren scum? Based on RNG? How ould you even know how he got? If I know what he got, I wouldn't ask? o.o '<_' That...Doesn't sound right. Why did you "dare" to vote him? It's not as if you knew his alignment unless you were scum. Is that really the only reason you suspect him? Okay, I'll accept that answer. But can you lay out your reasons for suspecting him please? I said it wasn't random because I chose him out of everyone due to that "Ii want to roll scum". Like i said, I always said I wanted to get town roles, before game out of game or in random chat. :/ And Soren wanted to roll scum. So uhh. Ice-breaking? Depending on how he replied, I wanted to get a read on him. But he didn't ignore me, he voted me back - which was weird, but I don't know what to think of it, so I drop it. I was suspecting Jack btw, not Soren. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:20 AM
#369
Gruffin said: I'm saying it doesn't seem to make much sense that you are scumreading grave over her opinion on Soren's vote when Claire expresses the same thing, but she's not being suspected because of it.Only caught up to this post. ;o; This is so chaotic. aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. And I didn't say "YAY I'm town" in any game. I used the RNG stuff to ask Soren. And then grave used that back on me. Gruffin said: Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. No, I wasn't accusing you of doing it. I was saying that you're accusing certain players based on RNG, but ignoring others. Now you're telling me to suspect Claire? I'm reserving judgement on Claire for now to see where their experiment goes. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:21 AM
#370
coromandel said: _Claire_ said: Tbh I read grrr as pushing something out of nothing just for the sake of pushing but you guys read it as "townie" which I cannot comprehend.. Also I like @aa-dono to come out more often please, I like reading you :> I was initially town-reading him because he read Jack's and Soren's posts and seemed to analyze them. He said something along the lines of .. "I can't see a townie post something like that", and "What Soren did here isn't alignment-indicative". Which is something he hasn't done in a while - and in the last game we played together he was 100% troll whereas in this game he seems more like 30/40% troll, and 60/70% serious to me. But that in itself.. when I think about it, it doesn't (or shouldn't) mean that I'm town-reading him. Just that I noticed a change in his play style. _Claire_ said: aa-dono said: Hmmmmmm~ Idk what to feel about current train. You mean grrr is probably town? I doubt it. Why are you so confident he's scum? Truth be told I am tipped off from his play. Because it seems like he doesn't want to risk getting lynched playing as a troll because... he might be "scum" you know? Thats why I am staying on my vote because, I am.. I don't know, if anyone is getting lynched today I will choose grrr. Beside, he is also too trolling and sometimes trolls can be harmful (even as town) because he causes chaos and not bother to play as a town. Also, I am being confident so my read is not taken lightly. I have learnt from the past that people will not "get you" if you use a weak argument like "I think..." " I don't know, I just want to see what happened". But he is the most scum-read for me. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:22 AM
#371
Like I said, I don't like the soren aa-dono situation, after the last few posts from Ruu and phraze they're on the naughty list but last game they did similar things and flipped town so ignoring that for now. Claire trying to pocket Jack reminds of how cross said the same exact thing about me when I was town last game and he was mafia, it's making me all kinds of irked. Rinto as you all say is apparently scummy by nature and has disappeared, so I changed my vote to aa-dono. Grrr disappearing after this incident is also cause to worry. I would say top 3 today, aa-dono, soren and grrr/claire. I don't wanna go for inactives but I really don't like kit's and logic's posts so far. If you still wanna pressure soren, I'm up for it, though I think aa-dono is scummier at this point. aa-dono said: grave_robber said: It wasn't random if I purposely chose to vote for him out of everyone else. I dared vote for him with that reason because we were in RVS stage.aa-dono said: I see. Though Ruu is right, whether that was her observation or just question, I was calling Soren scum. It was RVS, so it was based on non-game (maybe a little -since RNG) reason, but it's still a reason. @_Claire_ @grave_robber What about Soren OMGUS vote that was off? Edit: Quote bubble Hold on a minute there, you admit that wasn't an RVS vote? You actually called soren scum? Based on RNG? How ould you even know how he got? If I know what he got, I wouldn't ask? o.o wait, what? You wouldn't dare vote for him if it wasn't RVS? why? We all like soren and he's a great player but if someone is being scummy, you vote for them, no matter what stage it is. Look at your own words in your post aa-dono, you are saying you were calling him scum. You weren't merely asking, you were in fact like I interpreted were insinuating that he was mafia simply because he asked the RNG to give him a mafia role. You can try to make it look nice and innocent, but it wasn't. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:22 AM
#372
what is the vote count? |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:23 AM
#373
aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I voted him during RVS. There wasn't anything analytical about it.aa-dono said: Gruffin said: I have a history of avoiding Soren in games because he's scary :')aa-dono said: grave_robber said: It wasn't random if I purposely chose to vote for him out of everyone else. I dared vote for him with that reason because we were in RVS stage.aa-dono said: I see. Though Ruu is right, whether that was her observation or just question, I was calling Soren scum. It was RVS, so it was based on non-game (maybe a little -since RNG) reason, but it's still a reason. @_Claire_ @grave_robber What about Soren OMGUS vote that was off? Edit: Quote bubble Hold on a minute there, you admit that wasn't an RVS vote? You actually called soren scum? Based on RNG? How ould you even know how he got? If I know what he got, I wouldn't ask? o.o '<_' That...Doesn't sound right. Why did you "dare" to vote him? It's not as if you knew his alignment unless you were scum. Is that really the only reason you suspect him? Okay, I'll accept that answer. But can you lay out your reasons for suspecting him please? I said it wasn't random because I chose him out of everyone due to that "Ii want to roll scum". Like i said, I always said I wanted to get town roles, before game out of game or in random chat. :/ And Soren wanted to roll scum. So uhh. Ice-breaking? Depending on how he replied, I wanted to get a read on him. But he didn't ignore me, he voted me back - which was weird, but I don't know what to think of it, so I drop it. I was suspecting Jack btw, not Soren. Nnnnn. Okay. Maybe I am misunderstanding you then. :\ But if you aren't scum then I don't know who would be. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:24 AM
#374
_Claire_ said: it is still early there will be plenty for you to see don't worry have faith in me as you've asked others to do with you. As I've told everyone like 5 times now power outages have been hindering me. Guess you overlooked that?? If not why are you cherryv picking? I find cherry picking and framing arguments to be scum behavior. A bad town is as bad or worst then the mafia and should be dealt with imo.logic340 said: _Claire_ said: logic340 said: Gruffin said: without Claire saying anything about what this experiment could be a theory I guess we should call it. I don't like just throwing my vote behind something that I have no idea what it is (note duo I feel town votes should move do easily) but if it's a scum experiment to kill a town and get another one Lynch for just following along? These are the things that I think about when I look at what's going on which is why I can't accept Kit's reasoning for just going along blindly.Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. I dont see you trying something. Only seeing you replying on stuffs without anything new. Also reading everyone as neutral seems like scummish move to me because one of my ol' scum buddy did it in the past to avoid being linked to people. And nono, just saying. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:24 AM
#375
coromandel said: _Claire_ said: Gruffin said: aa-dono said: Why is grave in your maybe scumread as well? Do I get this right? - You're scumreading be based on my RNG talk? Grave's a maybe because the direction her votes are going in is giving me a weird vibe. :| I'll go more into it soon. Yes, I'm scumreading you because of your RNG talk. There's plenty else to suspect people for, so why are you focusing on RNG? Why are we focusing on talk that is around the RVS phase? Also I find it a bit weird that people are thinking aa-dono is "bad" and "worth voting" but not Soren. Soren was the one omgus-voting her.. isnt he more, lets say, "funny"? I still dont understand all this voting her because of her RNG talk. What is going on? I think it's fine to talk about RVS, but I'm not really scum-reading her either. She has been asking people questions, has been active and to me it looks like she's scum-hunting. Nothing about her screams scum to me. I played mafia with her. She likes to ask questions as mafia too, and she is really good in defending herself even as mafia. I don't think she is scum, but I dont think I can trust her even if I town-read her. Ahaha~ |
Nov 26, 2016 9:26 AM
#376
Jackrito said: I only thought grave was odd for reading the RVS vote too much. But I thought it was consistent since she did ask Ruu n something I thought was nothing as well.aa-dono said: Well, Claire is right on one thing. Jack's not getting lynched today :( Vote Change: Gruffin Your reads doesn't match up a lot of things. I'll highlight them in a bit. Or people can just read your reads and see what I meant :/ If Gruffin is scum I would lynch Grave next because of their interactions, and how he started to doubt Grave once I pointed it out. Still not sure if I want to lynch him today though, it is not the worst choice though. Though both of them focusing on that RNG talk is worrying. Since Gruffin can make good analytical posts, and I heard grave's a good scumhunter. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:27 AM
#377
grave_robber said: I've been checking on Claire, if it makes any sense.But you really are just posting nothing of substance this game |
Nov 26, 2016 9:27 AM
#378
logic340 said: _Claire_ said: it is still early there will be plenty for you to see don't worry have faith in me as you've asked others to do with you. As I've told everyone like 5 times now power outages have been hindering me. Guess you overlooked that?? If not why are you cherryv picking? I find cherry picking and framing arguments to be scum behavior. A bad town is as bad or worst then the mafia and should be dealt with imo.logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Your last sentence is my mind set. Why should any off is blindly follow a plan that hasn't been layed out in any detail? Where is the townie mindset in that? It's to vague is others want to try it do be out but I'm not going to blindly follow when there isn't anything compelling about "I'm trying something" shit were all trying something.logic340 said: Gruffin said: without Claire saying anything about what this experiment could be a theory I guess we should call it. I don't like just throwing my vote behind something that I have no idea what it is (note duo I feel town votes should move do easily) but if it's a scum experiment to kill a town and get another one Lynch for just following along? These are the things that I think about when I look at what's going on which is why I can't accept Kit's reasoning for just going along blindly.Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. I dont see you trying something. Only seeing you replying on stuffs without anything new. Also reading everyone as neutral seems like scummish move to me because one of my ol' scum buddy did it in the past to avoid being linked to people. And nono, just saying. I dont think my townie play is a bad one. At least I am active, unlike some others.... Anyway yes I do see it. But still not like it because it gives you a reason. I met this guy who was scum and he used his "i am busy" to not post a lot so I couldn't build a case against him where all the players are like "you wanna lynch someone? Reasons" and plenty ones. @Graverobber Ehm, I was not trying to pocket Jack... -_- he is too huge for me to put in my pocket. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:28 AM
#379
grave_robber said: what is the vote count? SoulEaterQUEEN said: ~Vote Count 1.4~ aa-dono(4) // Soren, Jackrito, Gruffin, grave_robber grrr(3) // Ruu, _Claire_, Kit _Claire_(2) // Luna Jackrito(1) // grrr Luna(1) // Rinto-kun Soren(1) // coromandel Kit(1) // logic340 _Claire_(1) // Luna grave_robber(1) // Phraze Gruffin(1) // aa-dono Not voting: ~ TIMER This should be it as of #362. Though I am about to go out for a new phone so I rushed it a bit. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:29 AM
#380
@grave_robber I suspected grrr before Claire said anything about a theory. I think grrr could be scum because of his new game play (in the last game he was completely different and that is why we caught him). I said I think Claire seems townish and that IF GRRR FLIPS TOWN I will examine Claire more to make sure her towniness is real. I don't see why my reasons are scummy |
Nov 26, 2016 9:31 AM
#381
grave_robber said: Did my question really stop the train from forming and how would you know that? It's the same question I asked last time I popped into the game and someone had three votes on them.aa-dono said: Jackrito said: On Soren and Dono, I need more from Soren to get a read, the early stuff in my view was strange and not great, I know he is busy though, so I won't get that today so will leave them for now, and I know a bit of their scum game like I said eariler. On Dono they are my top suspect at the moment, the way they flipped Gruffin question back annoys me, and I don't think they were waiting for it to be pointed out what does that achieve, their vote on me when pointing it out seemed weak and in my view came from annoyance at been called out. Their reason is pretty bad they even said themselves the post can come from me as town or scum. I also don't like how they misquoted me to make out I said I hate RNG to make me look bad, and they misquoted you to shade as well. That misquotemis-word was a mistake. As for shading, that was intentional. I don't know how else to get a read on people unless I shade them for a reaction first. You weren't doing that in the other game though and you were town there. What changed? _Claire_ said: So, you dont have reasons why voting for me except that I am the other "possible" train? Seems like you are trying to defend Grrr or...? You need to realize my train was sorta build when I havent even posted right? *scummy alert on* But you are in no danger now, what really stopped your wagon and started one on grr was Logic's comment followed by the prediction thing. aa-dono said: You didn't really start it...... But you tied it. If I'm not mistaken, grrr was the counter wagon to Claire's. What I meant to ask was, why do you want to counter grrr's train? Do you think he's town? Or do you find Claire scummy? What do you think of everyone else? If there's a tie why aren't you breaking it? Why is your vote still the RVS on soren. If you think Phraze is mafia why aren't you voting for her? If you think grr is then why vote for him? Why are you not voting or providing analysis. Why are you just asking others for their opinions? You and I need to work on catching scum together to. We squandered our power rules last time let's have a better go at it this time around. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:35 AM
#382
Okay, I'm going to see if I can go back through all of aa-dono's posts and analyze them before phase change real quick. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:35 AM
#383
grave_robber said: Sigh.aa-dono said: grave_robber said: aa-dono said: I see. Though Ruu is right, whether that was her observation or just question, I was calling Soren scum. It was RVS, so it was based on non-game (maybe a little -since RNG) reason, but it's still a reason. @_Claire_ @grave_robber What about Soren OMGUS vote that was off? Edit: Quote bubble Hold on a minute there, you admit that wasn't an RVS vote? You actually called soren scum? Based on RNG? How ould you even know how he got? If I know what he got, I wouldn't ask? o.o wait, what? You wouldn't dare vote for him if it wasn't RVS? why? We all like soren and he's a great player but if someone is being scummy, you vote for them, no matter what stage it is. Look at your own words in your post aa-dono, you are saying you were calling him scum. You weren't merely asking, you were in fact like I interpreted were insinuating that he was mafia simply because he asked the RNG to give him a mafia role. You can try to make it look nice and innocent, but it wasn't. Soren wasn't scummy. But I voted for him and call him scum. It was intentional. There wasn't anyone scummy at that point, but what was the point of putting a vote if I don't want to call out to someone? Some of you voted for someone you haven never played with before. In my case, I voted Soren because I can use that RNG stuff when I call him out. I asked him if he was scum because I don't know if he's scum or not. But my question were more in the form of "you got what you wanted, don't you?" That's what I meant by calling him out. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:36 AM
#384
aa-dono said: grave_robber said: I rep in the game during the worst time possible, and I played catch up most of the time. Then again, I do change my play every once a while, I can't really say anything about my town game, since I will always try new things.aa-dono said: Jackrito said: There is a reason why I waited it out. Else I'll be filling a page with my lone posts that would tire some people. Plus, I was gonna get back to it, so I don't see how waiting it out is scummy.On Soren and Dono, I need more from Soren to get a read, the early stuff in my view was strange and not great, I know he is busy though, so I won't get that today so will leave them for now, and I know a bit of their scum game like I said eariler. On Dono they are my top suspect at the moment, the way they flipped Gruffin question back annoys me, and I don't think they were waiting for it to be pointed out what does that achieve, their vote on me when pointing it out seemed weak and in my view came from annoyance at been called out. Their reason is pretty bad they even said themselves the post can come from me as town or scum. I also don't like how they misquoted me to make out I said I hate RNG to make me look bad, and they misquoted you to shade as well. That misquotemis-word was a mistake. As for shading, that was intentional. I don't know how else to get a read on people unless I shade them for a reaction first. You weren't doing that in the other game though and you were town there. What changed? grave_robber said: My vote was not on Soren.aa-dono said: You didn't really start it...... But you tied it. If I'm not mistaken, grrr was the counter wagon to Claire's. What I meant to ask was, why do you want to counter grrr's train? Do you think he's town? Or do you find Claire scummy? What do you think of everyone else? If there's a tie why aren't you breaking it? Why is your vote still the RVS on soren. If you think Phraze is mafia why aren't you voting for her? If you think grr is then why vote for him? Why are you not voting or providing analysis. Why are you just asking others for their opinions? Where did I say Phraze is mafia? If I think grrr is what? What do you mean not voting? == Why can't I ask for opinion? Actually I'm confused. Are these questions for me? or Phraze? It was during RVS, and you were going after phraze who voted for claire when you haven't gone after anyone else. You said they tied the votes (or so you believed) again insinuating that phraze is mafia for doing so but you didn't break the tie. What do I mean by not voting? Are you serious rn? You insinuated phraze was scummy for tying the votes and wanting a counterwagon but you didn't follow that suspicion with a vote on her, why? You an ask for opinions but when it's the only thing you do, it's cause for alarm. Don't you have conclusions and reads of you own? and if you are town, why aren't you sharing those conclusions and reads with links to posts to back it up? aa-dono said: I made a mistake on the tie thing. I thought Claire had two votes on her when Phraze voted. But she only had one. Yeah, I noticed. So Ruu and Soren abandoned ship? Grrr and Rinto are MIA.... This is making me feel bad -_- |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:39 AM
#385
Ruu said: is there something particular this game that he did that looks scummy? I'm not a fan of basing this game off of last have. I'm site people have tells over time but every game is going to present different situations and reactions.@grave_robber I suspected grrr before Claire said anything about a theory. I think grrr could be scum because of his new game play (in the last game he was completely different and that is why we caught him). I said I think Claire seems townish and that IF GRRR FLIPS TOWN I will examine Claire more to make sure her towniness is real. I don't see why my reasons are scummy |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:42 AM
#386
Phraze said: grave_robber said: I've been checking on Claire, if it makes any sense.But you really are just posting nothing of substance this game I was talking to Logic not you. _Claire_ said: @Graverobber Ehm, I was not trying to pocket Jack... -_- he is too huge for me to put in my pocket. Funny joke but the info is really null at this point. Who do you think are the top 3 viable lynches for today? @grrr, where are you? @coromandel, is your vote still on soren? |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:43 AM
#387
grave_robber said: Phraze vote wasn't RVS anymore. I wasn't insinuating anything. I was pointing it out to Phraze that her counter resulted in a tie (which I was wrong about). I noticed some of the way she played while I hosted previous game, so I pointed the result of her vote. Plus, when I ask her that, it's because she didn't provide a good reason for wanting a counter wagon. Phraze's reasoning is difficult to follow to I questioned her to get her to give me her thoughts.aa-dono said: grave_robber said: aa-dono said: Jackrito said: There is a reason why I waited it out. Else I'll be filling a page with my lone posts that would tire some people. Plus, I was gonna get back to it, so I don't see how waiting it out is scummy.On Soren and Dono, I need more from Soren to get a read, the early stuff in my view was strange and not great, I know he is busy though, so I won't get that today so will leave them for now, and I know a bit of their scum game like I said eariler. On Dono they are my top suspect at the moment, the way they flipped Gruffin question back annoys me, and I don't think they were waiting for it to be pointed out what does that achieve, their vote on me when pointing it out seemed weak and in my view came from annoyance at been called out. Their reason is pretty bad they even said themselves the post can come from me as town or scum. I also don't like how they misquoted me to make out I said I hate RNG to make me look bad, and they misquoted you to shade as well. That misquotemis-word was a mistake. As for shading, that was intentional. I don't know how else to get a read on people unless I shade them for a reaction first. You weren't doing that in the other game though and you were town there. What changed? grave_robber said: aa-dono said: You didn't really start it...... But you tied it. If I'm not mistaken, grrr was the counter wagon to Claire's. What I meant to ask was, why do you want to counter grrr's train? Do you think he's town? Or do you find Claire scummy? What do you think of everyone else? If there's a tie why aren't you breaking it? Why is your vote still the RVS on soren. If you think Phraze is mafia why aren't you voting for her? If you think grr is then why vote for him? Why are you not voting or providing analysis. Why are you just asking others for their opinions? Where did I say Phraze is mafia? If I think grrr is what? What do you mean not voting? == Why can't I ask for opinion? Actually I'm confused. Are these questions for me? or Phraze? It was during RVS, and you were going after phraze who voted for claire when you haven't gone after anyone else. You said they tied the votes (or so you believed) again insinuating that phraze is mafia for doing so but you didn't break the tie. What do I mean by not voting? Are you serious rn? You insinuated phraze was scummy for tying the votes and wanting a counterwagon but you didn't follow that suspicion with a vote on her, why? You an ask for opinions but when it's the only thing you do, it's cause for alarm. Don't you have conclusions and reads of you own? and if you are town, why aren't you sharing those conclusions and reads with links to posts to back it up? |
Nov 26, 2016 9:45 AM
#388
aa-dono said: grave_robber said: Phraze vote wasn't RVS anymore. I wasn't insinuating anything. I was pointing it out to Phraze that her counter resulted in a tie (which I was wrong about). I noticed some of the way she played while I hosted previous game, so I pointed the result of her vote. Plus, when I ask her that, it's because she didn't provide a good reason for wanting a counter wagon. Phraze's reasoning is difficult to follow to I questioned her to get her to give me her thoughts.aa-dono said: grave_robber said: I rep in the game during the worst time possible, and I played catch up most of the time. Then again, I do change my play every once a while, I can't really say anything about my town game, since I will always try new things.aa-dono said: Jackrito said: There is a reason why I waited it out. Else I'll be filling a page with my lone posts that would tire some people. Plus, I was gonna get back to it, so I don't see how waiting it out is scummy.On Soren and Dono, I need more from Soren to get a read, the early stuff in my view was strange and not great, I know he is busy though, so I won't get that today so will leave them for now, and I know a bit of their scum game like I said eariler. On Dono they are my top suspect at the moment, the way they flipped Gruffin question back annoys me, and I don't think they were waiting for it to be pointed out what does that achieve, their vote on me when pointing it out seemed weak and in my view came from annoyance at been called out. Their reason is pretty bad they even said themselves the post can come from me as town or scum. I also don't like how they misquoted me to make out I said I hate RNG to make me look bad, and they misquoted you to shade as well. That misquotemis-word was a mistake. As for shading, that was intentional. I don't know how else to get a read on people unless I shade them for a reaction first. You weren't doing that in the other game though and you were town there. What changed? grave_robber said: My vote was not on Soren.aa-dono said: You didn't really start it...... But you tied it. If I'm not mistaken, grrr was the counter wagon to Claire's. What I meant to ask was, why do you want to counter grrr's train? Do you think he's town? Or do you find Claire scummy? What do you think of everyone else? If there's a tie why aren't you breaking it? Why is your vote still the RVS on soren. If you think Phraze is mafia why aren't you voting for her? If you think grr is then why vote for him? Why are you not voting or providing analysis. Why are you just asking others for their opinions? Where did I say Phraze is mafia? If I think grrr is what? What do you mean not voting? == Why can't I ask for opinion? Actually I'm confused. Are these questions for me? or Phraze? It was during RVS, and you were going after phraze who voted for claire when you haven't gone after anyone else. You said they tied the votes (or so you believed) again insinuating that phraze is mafia for doing so but you didn't break the tie. What do I mean by not voting? Are you serious rn? You insinuated phraze was scummy for tying the votes and wanting a counterwagon but you didn't follow that suspicion with a vote on her, why? You an ask for opinions but when it's the only thing you do, it's cause for alarm. Don't you have conclusions and reads of you own? and if you are town, why aren't you sharing those conclusions and reads with links to posts to back it up? Awa, are you dumbtelling? You can see in my post that I am talking about YOUR VOTE not phraze's vote. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:47 AM
#389
^also I did provide reads == Just because they're not popular or everyone's pick doesn't mean I didn't share them. I was planning on linking Gruffin's posts that made me think she's scum but despite all her wrong assumption on me and then gave up scumreading (unless she's doing so now in the background) but still doesn't unvote, yet no one seem to care, I see it's gonna go into panic vote :/ Not a multitasker so it's hard for me to focus on going back pages, AND defending myself at the same time. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:47 AM
#390
It is. Although that was kind of a placeholder vote, and then he disappeared. >.> Vote: Gruffin I prefer this over aa-dono. Whether grrr is lynched or not, I don't really care at this point. I always find him hard to read and maybe he really just tried to appear more town-ish so he wouldn't be lynched this time. Does no one else find this post suspicioius? Gruffin said: coromandel said: Gruffin said: coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. Not sure what to think of this post. You're not scum-reading him for his vote, but you thought what he did was wrong. But that is what most people do in mafia games - try to look for suspicious behavior and vote accordingly. Sometimes 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy. And he voted pretty much at the start of the game, so I don't see what was so dangerous about his scum read on Jack. I'm just wary about the scumteam this time around using a similar strategy that my team used in my last game. Sure, 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy, but it's only D1 and we could get off to a bad start that way. I don't understand his reasoning here, and it sounds a bit like fluff. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:49 AM
#391
grave_robber said: You're asking why I didn't vote for her or break the tie right?aa-dono said: grave_robber said: aa-dono said: grave_robber said: I rep in the game during the worst time possible, and I played catch up most of the time. Then again, I do change my play every once a while, I can't really say anything about my town game, since I will always try new things.aa-dono said: Jackrito said: There is a reason why I waited it out. Else I'll be filling a page with my lone posts that would tire some people. Plus, I was gonna get back to it, so I don't see how waiting it out is scummy.On Soren and Dono, I need more from Soren to get a read, the early stuff in my view was strange and not great, I know he is busy though, so I won't get that today so will leave them for now, and I know a bit of their scum game like I said eariler. On Dono they are my top suspect at the moment, the way they flipped Gruffin question back annoys me, and I don't think they were waiting for it to be pointed out what does that achieve, their vote on me when pointing it out seemed weak and in my view came from annoyance at been called out. Their reason is pretty bad they even said themselves the post can come from me as town or scum. I also don't like how they misquoted me to make out I said I hate RNG to make me look bad, and they misquoted you to shade as well. That misquotemis-word was a mistake. As for shading, that was intentional. I don't know how else to get a read on people unless I shade them for a reaction first. You weren't doing that in the other game though and you were town there. What changed? grave_robber said: My vote was not on Soren.aa-dono said: You didn't really start it...... But you tied it. If I'm not mistaken, grrr was the counter wagon to Claire's. What I meant to ask was, why do you want to counter grrr's train? Do you think he's town? Or do you find Claire scummy? What do you think of everyone else? If there's a tie why aren't you breaking it? Why is your vote still the RVS on soren. If you think Phraze is mafia why aren't you voting for her? If you think grr is then why vote for him? Why are you not voting or providing analysis. Why are you just asking others for their opinions? Where did I say Phraze is mafia? If I think grrr is what? What do you mean not voting? == Why can't I ask for opinion? Actually I'm confused. Are these questions for me? or Phraze? It was during RVS, and you were going after phraze who voted for claire when you haven't gone after anyone else. You said they tied the votes (or so you believed) again insinuating that phraze is mafia for doing so but you didn't break the tie. What do I mean by not voting? Are you serious rn? You insinuated phraze was scummy for tying the votes and wanting a counterwagon but you didn't follow that suspicion with a vote on her, why? You an ask for opinions but when it's the only thing you do, it's cause for alarm. Don't you have conclusions and reads of you own? and if you are town, why aren't you sharing those conclusions and reads with links to posts to back it up? Awa, are you dumbtelling? You can see in my post that I am talking about YOUR VOTE not phraze's vote. That's what I am explaining to you == My interaction with PPhraze is based on her vote. I don't scumread her so I have no reason to vote for her. And I see no reason to defend either Claire or grrr. As for the tie, I went and double check, and since there wasn't any tie, there was no need to break any :| |
Nov 26, 2016 9:51 AM
#392
I feel like I'm not really following on why this train is forming on aa-dono.. I guess between dono and grrr i'd rather stay on grrr coromandel said: I thought she meant how scum don't need more reason to vote someone bc they already know their alignmentDoes no one else find this post suspicioius? Gruffin said: coromandel said: Gruffin said: coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. Not sure what to think of this post. You're not scum-reading him for his vote, but you thought what he did was wrong. But that is what most people do in mafia games - try to look for suspicious behavior and vote accordingly. Sometimes 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy. And he voted pretty much at the start of the game, so I don't see what was so dangerous about his scum read on Jack. I'm just wary about the scumteam this time around using a similar strategy that my team used in my last game. Sure, 1 sentence is enough to find someone scummy, but it's only D1 and we could get off to a bad start that way. I don't understand his reasoning here, and it sounds a bit like fluff. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:51 AM
#393
I'm back. I didn't have enough time to look through all of aa-dono's posts, sadly. Here's the incomplete post: #28: Votes Soren, “Did RNG grant your wish? :3” (null?) #33: Says RNG grants their wish when asked by Grave. (null) #37: More banter about RNG. (null) #44: Null post #47: Null post #141: Asking Grave why she didn’t like Ruu’s question. #142: Gives opinion on question after finding Grave’s answer. Thinks Grave is shading Ruu. #143: Info on Claire’s play. Says pressuring her is good for reads. #144: Asks Grrr about his read on Jack. #145: Echos my question back to me. #146: Null post #195: Says they were waiting for someone to ask about the echo question. Now agrees with Grr about his read on Jack, saying Jack’s post was faked. Votes Jack. #196: Still wants to vote Soren, more RVS/RNG talk. #197: Asking why Ruu though Jack’s response was townish. #198: Null post #199: Asking Claire if she has any other reason to suspect Grrr. Sigh. This is why I wanted to get out of RVS earlier so we didn't have to rush like this. I think at this point, an aa-dono flip would be the most informative. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:52 AM
#394
Jackrito said: aa-dono said: Well, Claire is right on one thing. Jack's not getting lynched today :( Vote Change: Gruffin Your reads doesn't match up a lot of things. I'll highlight them in a bit. Or people can just read your reads and see what I meant :/ If Gruffin is scum I would lynch Grave next because of their interactions, and how he started to doubt Grave once I pointed it out. Still not sure if I want to lynch him today though, it is not the worst choice though. So who are your top 3 suspects today? aa-dono, Gruffin and me? ok....And this is solely because soren doesn't like the fact that I'm using his day 1 tactics? And because you think Gruffin was buddying up to me and why would people be listening to Gruffin or me? They clearly aren't though. Well maybe on the aa-dono people are starting to see what I saw but still. what is the vote count? Still 4 on aa-dono? @aa-dono, who are your top suspects rn? And why haven't you claimed? we know there's a jumper but it starts working when 40% of the players claim, if you were town, you would have claimed by now. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:53 AM
#395
@graverobber I really want to lynch grrr at this moment. Depending how he flips, probably Phraze. I have no solid other. And I was serious when i said I were not pocketing Jack. I was respecting his play. @coromandel then why Gruffin? You can vote Grrr because you feel like its okay to lynch Grrr instead of aa-dono |
Nov 26, 2016 9:54 AM
#396
@grave_robber So Ruu and Soren abandoned ship? Grrr and Rinto are MIA.... This is making me feel bad -_- Why do you think we abandoned the ship? :/ I'm multitasking right now so I can't post all the time but I read everything. At this point I just want to see if we got lucky again and aa-dono is in fact scum. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:55 AM
#397
6 minutes and no VC. Oh well. It seems aa-dono still has 4 votes and GRrr has 3. |
Nov 26, 2016 9:55 AM
#398
coromandel said: It is. Although that was kind of a placeholder vote, and then he disappeared. >.> Vote: Gruffin I prefer this over aa-dono. Whether grrr is lynched or not, I don't really care at this point. I always find him hard to read and maybe he really just tried to appear more town-ish so he wouldn't be lynched this time. She never even made an effort to scumhunt or provide dent analysis, she admits to throwing shade and she hasn't claimed despite being the leading lynch. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:56 AM
#399
_Claire_ said: I to have we seen scum pull that same strategy but in the same game they nuke busses their leader to get town credit their is no one scum tell. It's behavioral. Looking at people's reasoning and rationale. Why did you bring up your theory? Did you expect people to jump on board or were you expecting people to ask you what your theory might be later on to get on credit? A lot of people said they don't expect him to put themselves out there like that for the other games I have seen scum put themselves out there like that. Not saying your town game is bad I know nothing of your game this is my first interactions with you. I have no bias and nothing to base anything on and I don't feel like taking the word of people that I don't really know so I'll get to know you myself.logic340 said: _Claire_ said: logic340 said: _Claire_ said: Your last sentence is my mind set. Why should any off is blindly follow a plan that hasn't been layed out in any detail? Where is the townie mindset in that? It's to vague is others want to try it do be out but I'm not going to blindly follow when there isn't anything compelling about "I'm trying something" shit were all trying something.logic340 said: Gruffin said: without Claire saying anything about what this experiment could be a theory I guess we should call it. I don't like just throwing my vote behind something that I have no idea what it is (note duo I feel town votes should move do easily) but if it's a scum experiment to kill a town and get another one Lynch for just following along? These are the things that I think about when I look at what's going on which is why I can't accept Kit's reasoning for just going along blindly.Catch up post. Glad to see people are talking now! Now I can focus in on a target. Even though I don’t agree that we should lynch Grrr D1, I like Kit’s reasons for voting him. They sound like they really want a lead to come out of Claire’s experiment, which shows a townie mindset. Claire’s experiment is pretty neutral to me, but I won’t be joining in. I don’t like aa-dono’s RNG analysis though? Like all of the talk about RNG liking someone doesn’t tell us anything because people may react differently to getting a certain alignment based on their playstyle. It would be really easy for me to go “I hope I’m town!” pre-game and then turn around and say “Yay! I got town!” in this thread. Which is exactly what I did, funny how dono hadn’t noticed. Grave wanting to follow aa-dono in a vote on Soren doesn’t sound quite right to me: If you vote sore, I would follow that vote since he omgussed you and posted the prediction that has thrown shade over others but kept him safe. I saw nothing in Soren’s prediction post that indicated he wanted to throw shade on others to keep himself safe. The reason this turned into the discussion it did was Grrr and Jack added their predictions, which led others and I to question them. The omgus wasn’t very serious-sounding as well, @grave_robber Could you explain why you think he was throwing shade? And oh no, stupid colds! D: Hope you get to feeling better. coromandel said: Gruffin said: Kit said: grave_robber said: Unsure if you are pointing out that I'm lurking too or asking me to answer the question, but I can follow Grrr's thought process on that vote because Jack could be purposely trying to look town and oppose anti-town ideas, while also kind of accusing Soren and Grr. On the other hand I agree with Jack that it's kind of pessimistic to predict several mislynches happening/the game going on so long/a mafia win. It kind of bothers me when town predict mafia win cause it sounds like giving up... (but not necessarily like they are scum themselves)Gruffin said: @logic340 I see you're online, but haven't posted much. What do you think of Grrr voting Jack? Kit too It's possible that both are town in this argument. Can't say I like Grrr's eagerness to vote for Jack, though. Why do you find his vote worse than others? Others at the time were still on their RVS votes, but Grrr voted Jack over a single post. It’s not that I think he’s scummy for it, it’s just that thinking someone is scum for one thing they say/do is a dangerous assumption. @Coromandel I unvoted because I wanted to think everything over more before placing a vote and I wanted to see what kind of conversation would happen in my absence. @Phraze I’ll go back over your posts after phase change. -_- Just because you’re hard to read doesn’t mean I won’t try. @Ruu Heya, aa-dono and maybe Grave are currently my suspects. Coro asked the same question about my vote, so you can find the answer to that in this post. Soren said: Gruffin said: But how did it come off as a policy lynch? You merely assumed it was and that caused grave to misinterpret it as a policy lynch too, this will generate confusion and misinformation in town. I gotta understand your mindset more.Soren said: Gruffin said: What is about her vote on grr that is making you concerned?Here’s my thoughts so far. These are obviously super weak reads given that there isn’t much info to go around yet and we’re still in RVS. grave_robber: Her questions so far seem to be edging the game out of RVS, which I like. I’m hesitant to give her a full town read though, because that’s what got Cross townread in Camp last time (and he was my scumbuddy). So, town lean. Aa-dono: The RNG talk is meh and I don’t really find it to be indicative of anything, probably just banter. Neutral. Ruu: Her vote on grrr has me concerned, but she is asking questions. Neutral, I’ll keep my eye on her for now. The meta-based reasoning. It initially came off as a way to set up a mislynch as a policy lynch. I'm less concerned with it now that she's posted #70. It was an assumption, but that was why I questioned her on it. I wanted to know if I had just misunderstood her or not. I’ll answer your question about Grave soon. I just want to take part in the lynch before time’s up instead of backreading. I don't know why you did that prediction thing either, that was not really a productive move out of RVS. This been said I like your first point, Gruffin townread on Grave reminds me of the way they townread cross in their last game. When both were scum he always said the same thing on Cross. @Jackrito Eh. It was a really weak read, as I said. I’m already starting to suspect Grave now that we’re out of RVS. Soren said: Gruffin said: Eh why are you coming to my defense. I didn't give a reason behind my prediction so why do you say that I did? And showing suspicion of what?grrr said: What he wrote makes no sense. Only mafia person would post it to look townish. town person won't post that. The role set of the game is simple and given that I can't force claims I guess it will be just behavior reads + random for me. No any abilities to beware for. I don't agree with this. He gives a good reason for his prediction and shows suspicion, which feels pretty townie to me. If anything this type of post is easily faked, but I wouldn't count it as scummy based purely on that possibility. I was defending Jack, not you. ;P I’d still like to hear your reasons behind the prediction, actually. Oh, and... Vote: aa-dono I honestly think what I was doing is better than leaving vote in "one person one vote" thing. Probably people should change their vote to the train to get as much as possible we don't need small one vote votings. I think its better if we choose not as its 55 mins before phase change. I understand people not following as they don't know if I am scum or not. I dont see you trying something. Only seeing you replying on stuffs without anything new. Also reading everyone as neutral seems like scummish move to me because one of my ol' scum buddy did it in the past to avoid being linked to people. And nono, just saying. I dont think my townie play is a bad one. At least I am active, unlike some others.... Anyway yes I do see it. But still not like it because it gives you a reason. I met this guy who was scum and he used his "i am busy" to not post a lot so I couldn't build a case against him where all the players are like "you wanna lynch someone? Reasons" and plenty ones. @Graverobber Ehm, I was not trying to pocket Jack... -_- he is too huge for me to put in my pocket. |
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Nov 26, 2016 9:57 AM
#400
grave_robber said: I'm never a fan of claiming, and I don't see the benefit of me claiming right now.@aa-dono, who are your top suspects rn? And why haven't you claimed? we know there's a jumper but it starts working when 40% of the players claim, if you were town, you would have claimed by now. It will either cause a panic lynch on a potential pr, or allow our TPR a free guess. So no. I might not post gazillions, but I've been here getting reads, and steadily trying to contribute. If you don't want to lynch me, it's not gonna because of my claim. |
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